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Fireball from the Learjet crash Eleven people are killed in a mass shooting at an adult education centre in Örebro, Sweden. A Learjet 55 crashes (explosion pictured) into multiple buildings in Philadelphia, United States, killing at least 7 people and injuring 22 others. A Beechcraft 1900 crashes in Unity State, South Sudan, killing 20 of the 21 people onboard. Ahmed al-Sharaa is appointed president of the Syrian transitional government. American Eagle Flight 5342 collides with an army helicopter over the Potomac River in Washington, D.C., United States, killing all 67 people on board both aircraft. Ongoing: Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline Sudanese civil war timeline Recent deaths: Rich Dauer Horst Janson Barbie Hsu Zakia Jafri Sammy Acaylar Julius Chan view — page history — related changes — edit

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February 5

Portal:Current events/2025 February 5
February 5, 2025 (2025-02-05) (Wednesday) Business and economy China–United States trade war The United States Postal Service says it is temporarily no longer accepting inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong Posts effective immediately. (Bloomberg) (The Guardian)

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On this day..... 2025 Simona Halep retired from professional tennis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jason gaspar11 (talk • contribs) 05:23, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

February 4

Portal:Current events/2025 February 4

February 4, 2025 (2025-02-04) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israeli–Palestinian conflict Gaza war 2025 Gaza war ceasefire, Israel–United States relations Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu meets with U.S. President Donald Trump amidst a second phase of negotiations for the ceasefire on the Gaza Strip. (NPR) U.S. President Donald Trump announces a plan where the U.S. would seek "long-term ownership" of Gaza, and that the U.S. military would be in charge of Gaza's reconstruction. Trump also says Palestinians will have no choice but to leave the territory. Both parties refuse the deal. (Reuters) (The Guardian) (AP) Israeli incursions in the West Bank during the Gaza war Two Israeli soldiers are killed and eight others are injured in a shooting at the Taysir checkpoint by an unknown gunman. (DW) War against the Islamic State War in Somalia Islamic State insurgency in Puntland Puntland Security Forces battle ISIS militants near Dharin, killing at least 40 fighters and injuring others. They claim to have captured the village of Dharin in Togga Jecel of Bari Region, Puntland. (The Somali Digest) (Garowe Online) Jubaland crisis Jubaland forces have regained control of Bardhere District in the Gedo region after withdrawal of federal forces was reportedly linked to the disbandment of units stationed at headquarters for several months. South Somalia (Hiiraan Online) Russian invasion of Ukraine Russian attacks on civilians in the Russo-Ukrainian War A Russian missile strikes a residential building in Izium, Kharkiv Oblast, Ukraine, killing four people and injuring twenty others. (Ukrainska Pravda) Spillover of the Ethiopian civil war Djiboutian armed forces executed a drone strike near the Ethiopian border, killing eight members of what the government described as a "terrorist group" involved in "hostile actions". The attack also injured an unknown number of civilians. (Hiiraan Online)  (VOA) Mexican drug war A series of shootouts and encounters are reported in Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas, Mexico, after the arrest of the regional leader of the Cártel del Noreste and leader of an armed wing in the state. The United States Consulate in Mexico issues an alert for its citizens to not go out on the streets, and the Nuevo Laredo International Airport suspends activities due to the violence. (UNO TV) A riot within the Tabasco Social Reinsertion Center in Villahermosa, Tabasco, Mexico, leaves seven inmates dead. This is the second riot in less than two months at the prison. (El Universal) Disasters and accidents 2025 Potomac River mid-air collision The remains of all 67 people who were killed in a collision between a PSA Airlines CRJ700 and a United States Army UH-60 Black Hawk are recovered from the Potomac River near Washington, D.C., United States. (AP) International relations Second Trump tariffs China–United States trade war The United States implements a 10% across-the-board tariff on Chinese products and eliminates the de minimis exemption for exports from China. In response, China imposes retaliatory tariffs on energy products, agricultural equipment, and automobiles from the United States, effective February 10, and export controls on critical minerals. It also adds U.S. companies PVH Corp. and Illumina Inc to its unreliable entities list and launches a probe into U.S. technology company Google for alleged anti-trust violations. (The Guardian) Iran–United States relations U.S. President Donald Trump signs a presidential memorandum reimposing a policy of maximum pressure against Iran. (Reuters) Moldova–European Union relations The European Union and Moldova sign an energy deal that will integrate Moldova into the bloc's energy grid after Russia halted gas supplies over an alleged US$709 million unpaid bill. The European Commission says Moldova will receive €250 million ($258 million) this year to help its citizens afford rising energy bills as part of the agreement. (AP) Law and crime Crime in Sweden 2025 Risbergska school shooting Eleven people are killed and 15 injured in a mass shooting at the Risbergska School, a municipal adult education centre, in Örebro, Sweden. The perpetrator is killed shortly after. (BBC News) (SVT) (The Guardian) Politics and elections The U.S. State Department orders the closure of all overseas missions of the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) and recalls thousands of USAID staff to the United States ahead of the agency's shutdown. (Reuters)

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RD: Aga Khan IV

Article: Aga Khan IV (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes
Credits:

• Nominated by Mooonswimmer (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Mooonswimmer 22:31, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support: His death event is notable. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 22:40, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  @Ivebeenhacked please note that ITNRD nominations are to be graded on quality, not notability, as all ITNRD are assumed to be notable enough to be posted. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 00:21, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Speedy support for sure. RIP. Mr. Lechkar (talk) 23:55, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Not ready. Certainly notable (not that that matters), but the article has lots of CN tags and could use a good copy edit. Moscow Mule (talk) 00:34, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Not Ready for the usual reason. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:43, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb, defining figure of Ismailism and a major political figure beyond that. Not ready as many citations are missing. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 01:01, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait on quality, Support Blurb Religious leader, wealthy businessman, major and occasionally scandalous political figure, and an extreme lack of citations. --SpectralIon 01:26, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Lean oppose blurb as I generally oppose RDBs except for serving political leaders, but I can see the argument that he qualifies under that umbrella This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 03:59, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb once improved. Leader of the second largest branch of Shia Islam with millions of adherents, with some estimates going up to 20 million. We blurbed the death of the Coptic patriarch (Wikipedia:In_the_news/Posted/March_2012#March_18), the head of a religion which has a roughly similar amount of worshipers. Quality is obviously not there though. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 04:27, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) 2025 Risbergska school shooting

Article: 2025 Risbergska school shooting (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Five people are shot and injured during a mass shooting at a school in Örebro, Sweden, while the perpetrator is found dead. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ At least eleven people are killed in a mass shooting at an adult education centre in Örebro, Sweden.
News source(s): CNNBBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Koltinn (talk · give credit)
• Created by Kålrabbis (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Highly unusual that it was a firearm rather than a knife, is on the news here. Koltinn (talk) 14:51, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Wait -- no information on fatalities yet. While I know shootings are rare in Sweden, I don't think we should be posting shootings that don't result in any deaths. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 15:41, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Let the article breathe first. Second such news from Sweden this week, tragic. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 15:48, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  This is not a "second" shooting this week, we've had some bomb attacks lately, but none in schools since the bombs are tied to organized crime. The last time we had a shooting in a school was in 1961. Cart (talk) 15:56, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  By second such news, I mean second such tragic news where gun was used. Previous one was killing of Salwan Momika. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 16:20, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  Yes, shootings outside schools are unfortunately more common these days. I was thinking of attacks involving school- and building-related things . Cart (talk) 16:30, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Wait There is very little information yet and no fatalities have been reported (the blurb is wrong at the moment). This is still classified as an ongoing operation and the police are not releasing any info. Once we know more, this could be ITN-worthy since this is highly unusual here in Sweden. Previous school attacks have been made with cutting weapons, and while shootings have increased in Sweden they have not taken place inside schools. Cart (talk) 15:48, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait So far only 6 injured have been confirmed (of whom 4 have gunshot injuries). Swedish media is reporting possible deaths and up to 15 injured but so far there's no confirmation. Johndavies837 (talk) 16:34, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Support Police have confirmed about 10 dead so far. This appears to be the deadliest mass shooting in Swedish history. Johndavies837 (talk) 17:19, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Wait - there doesn't seem to be any children or even teenagers involved; that may change the equation. Nfitz (talk) 17:06, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

This is a school for adults, Komvux. But the police has just confirmed there are "some 10" dead including the shooter plus the injured persons. They are busy with identifying, but will likely not release any more info until tomorrow. Cart (talk) 17:10, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Oops, I missed your ping. Yes, time for waiting is gone. Blurb is okay. Maybe update if there's the inevitable tightening of gun rules that invariably quickly follows this kind of event. Nfitz (talk) 20:42, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Sorry to disappoint, there won't be any such debate. Unlike the US we already have extremely strict gun laws, there are tons of rules and regulations before you can even think of owning a gun in Sweden. The problem is all the illegal and smuggled weapons. Cart (talk) 21:15, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support this is now possibly the biggest shooting/attack in Sweden ever (cf. 2017 Stockholm truck attack with 5 dead). Cart (talk) 17:23, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support now that we have the confirmation of ~10 fatalities. --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 17:31, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Strong support, Swedish police have said there were around 10 fatalities, definitely notable in a country where such violence is relatively rare. User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 17:47, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Support - significant mass shooting, 10 deaths. Rare in Sweden. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 17:44, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Support - 10 deaths is very rare for a shooting in Sweden. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:49, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Support decent and notable enough. ArionStar (talk) 17:53, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support Unusual event in a country/region that very rarely suffers mass shootings. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:03, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support - Unusual event in Sweden. High number of deaths. Well cited.BabbaQ (talk) 18:05, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

•  Comment: I wouldn't use "at least ten" in the blurb. The Swedish expression "ett tiotal", that the police is using, means 'around ten' so it can be nine too. Cart (talk) 18:07, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  I agree, it should be reworded to "Around ten..." User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 18:40, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support - Article looks good enough now, and this sort of thing is rare in Sweden. Definitely prefer the use of "adult education center" over "school" in the blurb as school shooting generally has the connotation that children were involved ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 18:15, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Support per others, and link "an adult education centre" to Campus Risbergska. - Sebbog13 (talk) 18:23, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Support per others. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 18:38, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Posted -- KTC (talk) 18:40, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Post-posting support. Was gonna nominate this myself earlier, got beat to it I suppose. TwistedAxe [contact] 20:24, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

February 3

Portal:Current events/2025 February 3

February 3, 2025 (2025-02-03) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Gaza war Israeli incursions in the West Bank 2025 Israeli operation in the West Bank At least 70 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli troops since the start of the year in the occupied West Bank, including 38 killed in Jenin. (Al Jazeera) Sudanese civil war Battle of Khartoum 2025 Omdurman market attack The United Nations condemns the recent Rapid Support Forces attack on civilians at a market in Omdurman, Sudan, as a war crime. (Malaysia Sun) Somali Civil War Islamic State insurgency in Puntland A Puntland police spokesperson confirms that a senior commander of the Islamic State, Abdirahman Shirwac Aw-Said, the head of the group’s assassination squad, surrendered to Puntland forces in the Cal Miskaad mountains, Bari Region, Puntland. (Al Jazeera) (Reuters) Spillover of the Somali Civil War Suspected Al-Shabaab gunmen abduct five government-appointed village chiefs in Kenya's Mandera County, who were en route to the border town of El Wak. The abducted chiefs were part of the preparation team for President William Ruto's visit to the region next week. (Garowe Online) (Hiiraan Online) (Reuters) Kivu conflict M23 campaign The rebel Congo River Alliance, which includes M23, announces a unilateral ceasefire that will take effect the next day. (Reuters) Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine A bomb explodes inside a building in Moscow, Russia, killing two people and wounding three. The presumed main target, Armen Sarkisyan, a pro-Russia leader in the Donbas, is among the dead. (Reuters) Syrian civil war A car bombing kills at least 20 people and leaves 15 others wounded in Manbij, Syria. Most of the victims were female agricultural workers, according to local authorities. (BBC News) (AP) Central African Republic Civil War Five soldiers are killed by Coalition of Patriots for Change gunmen at a military outpost in Kouki, Central African Republic. (AP) Mexican drug war An armed attack in San Luis Río Colorado, San Luis Río Colorado Municipality left seven people dead, according to authorities the criminal cell "Los Rusos" are behind of this attack and other violent incidents in the zone.Universal) Terrorism in Azerbaijan Eight people are killed and six others are injured in a security operation in Qusar District, Azerbaijan, against former Derbent Jamaat militants. (Report.az) Business and economy Second Trump tariffs 2025 United States trade war with Canada and Mexico Canada–United States relations Ontario Premier Doug Ford announces Ontario will end contracts with the Starlink program unless the United States lifts its tariffs on Canada. (BBC News) Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announces that U.S. tariffs would be delayed by at least 30 days, following a call with United States President Donald Trump. (DW) Mexico–United States relations Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum and U.S. President Donald Trump announce they have agreed to delay 25% of tariffs on Mexico for a month. (NBC News) Ecuador–Mexico relations Ecuadorian President Daniel Noboa announces 27% tariffs on Mexican imports. (CNN) The Philippines declares a food security emergency on rice due to rising prices. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents 2025 Santorini earthquakes A series of over 200 earthquakes in a 48-hour period causes widespread evacuations from the Greek island of Santorini. (The Guardian) A teenage girl is killed in a shark attack off the coast of Queensland, Australia. (BBC News) International relations Democratic Republic of the Congo–Rwanda conflict The Democratic Republic of the Congo government requests international sanctions against Rwanda. (Reuters) South Africa–United States relations U.S. President Donald Trump says he is stopping funding to South Africa over a land seizure law. (The Guardian) El Salvador–United States relations Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele offers U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio the option to send convicted "dangerous American criminals" to be incarcerated at the Terrorism Confinement Center in Tecoluca, El Salvador, in exchange for a fee. (The Washington Post) Law and crime Three Islamic State-linked inmates are killed and three guards are wounded in a prison riot in Vakhdat District, Tajikistan. (Barron's) Politics and elections 2024–2025 Belgian government formation Bart De Wever is sworn in as the new Prime Minister of Belgium a final agreement was reached between N-VA, CD&V, Vooruit, MR and Les Engagés. De Wever becomes the first Flemish nationalist to become Prime Minister. (The Guardian)

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Prime minister of Belgium

Article: 2024–2025 Belgian government formation (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Bart De Wever (pictured) becomes prime minister of Belgium following the 2024 Belgian federal election. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ 239 days after the 2024 Belgian federal election, Bart De Wever becomes the prime minister of Belgium.
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)

 ArionStar (talk) 13:05, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Weak oppose on quality. Bolded article is orange tagged. Once that is resolved, support. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 contribs 13:13, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Also you should probably change the article to Bart De Wever. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 contribs 13:19, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Comment I believe this is ITNR. The election from last June (which was nominated but dist post due to quality) establish which party had control, and only now have they selected their PM. Masem (t) 15:29, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait then Support per Jalapeno. --SpectralIon 18:55, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Not Ready on article quality. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:45, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

RD: Sal Maida

Article: Sal Maida (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hollywood Reporter
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Death reported 3 February. Thriley (talk) 06:20, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Article is far too stubby to be considered for ITNRD recognition. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 11:06, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Rich Dauer

Article: Rich Dauer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 22:59, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support Good sourcing and well enough length of article. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 11:07, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support This article meets all requirements for RD. Grimes2 (talk) 11:29, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support - looks good ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 13:53, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support - Looks well cited.BabbaQ (talk) 18:27, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Posted -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:48, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

RD: Lim Tze Peng

Article: Lim Tze Peng (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Straits Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Robertsky (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Receipient of the Cultural Medallion of Singapore, the highest national award given to art practitioners in Singapore. – robertsky (talk) 13:42, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Orange tag for promotional content, unsourced paragraphs and "Major exhibitions" and "Awards" sections. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:17, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Barbie Hsu

Article: Barbie Hsu (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Taiwanese actress Barbie Hsu (pictured) dies at the age of 48 from pneumonia. (Post)
News source(s): BBC South China Morning Post
Credits:

• Nominated by Wildfireupdateman (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Justanothersgwikieditor (talk · give credit), Robertsky (talk · give credit) and Starship.paint (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 04:44, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Note that I have quality concerns and strongly oppose a blurb. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 04:45, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I also nominated separately at about the same time. Combining here, with my nomination statement: A household name among the various Chinese speaking populations in many countries as the variety shows that she had hosted are exported to the various countries. IIRC, nothing ground breaking from her works that may warrant a blurb. News of her death just released (3 Feb). At nomination time, the article is in a bad shape, i.e. dated biographical layout; lack of references in the Works section; prose is not as expanded as it can be; lots of dating news. Will be working on this later in the night. – robertsky (talk) 04:52, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Sorry for sniping the RD nomination :). I'm from a Chinese family so can confirm the "household name" part. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 04:57, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Agree with household name part, and the certainly unexpected death at the age of 48 warrants a blurb in my opinion, if the quality can be fixed. starship.paint (talk / cont) 11:09, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Reuters: Barbie Hsu, who rose to fame across East Asia

Agence France-Presse: Barbie Hsu, who was hugely popular across Asia

BBC: One of the biggest stars in the Mandarin-speaking world, Hsu became a familiar face even in the Philippines, Indonesia and Thailand after Meteor Garden was dubbed in local languages.starship.paint (talk / cont) 11:46, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Updated. – robertsky (talk) 12:30, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb Death from pneumonia at 48 is not unusual (4 million die from it each year), and being a household name is not a reason to post a blurb. No other indication of any impact or legacy on the industry. Support RD, I see only one missing source in the filmography table. Masem (t) 12:58, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
  • I've added a source for that. starship.paint (talk / cont) 12:59, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

    @Masem: According to @Starship.paint's statement, the blurb could be posted as she was hugely popular around Asia. By the way, I respect the result for this blurb. Sinsyuan✍️🌏🚀 13:08, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

    We absolutely should not be posting only because they were popular, that in no way shows them as a major figure in their respective field (this being SE Asian film and television). If there were other aspects of their legacy that came out from that popularity, maybe, but we have had problems with blurbs around "popular" stars in the past like Betty White and Carrie Fisher. — Masem (t) 13:12, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  I'm not in favour of a blurb BUT death from pneumonia at 48 IS unusual. I would even add that death from pneumonia at ANY age is unusual for someone in TAIWAN. Most if not all of the 4 million deaths are from much poorer countries not one of the richest Varoon2542 (talk) 03:56, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per Masem. There are hundreds of very popular actors and actresses locally, regionally and globally, and while each obviously has their merits, notoriety, and therefore ITN-worthiness, must be linked to the legacy and industry impact of their career. And I don't see that this is the case. _-_Alsor (talk) 13:16, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  @Alsoriano97 but RD, yes? – robertsky (talk) 13:37, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  Yes, article's quality looks good. Support RD _-_Alsor (talk) 14:18, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support RD, leaning oppose blurb I'd actually warn people to not underestimate how well-known Meteor Garden is, but even when taking that into account I still feel like blurbing this would be akin to posting a blurb for Robbie Rotten's actor when he died. Yo.dazo (talk) 14:26, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD but oppose blurb, per others ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 14:49, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD, oppose blurb per all above. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:16, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  "Another Gloria Moreno"? ArionStar (talk) 17:10, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  I didn’t make that comment - not sure why you’re responding to me. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:45, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  Just a question. ArionStar (talk) 23:39, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  And what was the point of that question, exactly? The Kip ^(contribs) 00:15, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  That this one was nominated as a blurb in the same idea that the Glória blurb was too? ArionStar (talk) 01:55, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  Hmm... This was initially nominated as a RD, with both noms (me included, since we both had an edit conflict at about the same time) explicitly stating no to having a blurb. Another editor later tested the idea of having a blurb, which clearly everyone else opposed, which isn't a big deal. Totally different from Gloria Moreno's entry. – robertsky (talk) 05:58, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  To which I also opposed. @ArionStar, quite honestly I'm insulted at your implication here. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:05, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  It was a question not an implication, even an insult. I'm not an ITN expert, you are (I guess), that's why my question directed to you… ArionStar (talk) 22:38, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support RD, oppose blurb as general policy against RDB This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 17:57, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD, oppose blurb 5494 characters (923 words) "readable prose size", sourced. Grimes2 (talk) 18:49, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD, Oppose Blurb per above. --SpectralIon 19:30, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Question Why exactly was this tagged "Needs Admin Attention"? Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 22:29, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  Because an admin can post RD… starship.paint (talk / cont) 22:31, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  @Starship.paint Right...so then it should be tagged 'Ready' per procedure. 'Needs Admin Attention' implies necessary action, either because there's a dispute gone wrong, or because there's only so long until the nomination is unlisted. We can calm down, ITN is not a news ticker. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 23:05, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  @Fakescientist8000: - I was involved in updating the article, it wouldn’t be right for me to judge whether the article is ready. It would be like approving myself. starship.paint (talk / cont) 00:26, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support RD, oppose blurb. Celebrities regardless of nationality go to RD. Harizotoh9 (talk) 23:48, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Article is orange tagged for a too short lead. Stephen 00:42, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  Tag removed, BUT I still think the lead is a bit short. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 01:12, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 02:46, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Dismantling of United States Agency for International Development

Article: United States Agency for International Development (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The United States Agency for International Development is dismantled by the Department of Government Efficiency. (Post)
News source(s): [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]
Credits:

• Nominated by Eyesinthefire (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Wide news coverage, large impact on US foreign policy. Eyesinthefire (talk) 22:25, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Needs work Orange-tagged. And the process is a work-in-progress. As I understand it, the plan is to merge USAID into the State Department which is not exactly dismantling. But there's a legal challenge so it's not a done deal. Andrew🐉(talk) 22:39, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  re: "the plan is to merge USAID into the State Department which is not exactly dismantling." - I have not yet found a source that is convincing me there is a plan to continue the work of USAID under the State Department. The linked AP source claims "In the space of a few weeks, in fact, much of the agency was dismantled — work and spending ordered stopped, leadership and staff gutted by furloughs, firings and disciplinary leaves, and the website taken offline. Lawmakers said the agency’s computer servers were carted away."

  I totally agree that United States Agency for International Development needs work to bring it up to date with developments over the past few days but think the blurb and inclusion in ITN is still sound. Eyesinthefire (talk) 22:58, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  USAID, the United States Agency for International Development, will be merged into the State Department with significant cuts in the workforce, but it will remain a humanitarian aid entity, three U.S. officials told CBS News.

  www.cbsnews.com/news/usaid-merged-into-state-department/ — hako9 (talk) 23:24, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  https://www.npr.org/2025/02/04/nx-s1-5287053/usaid-trump-overseas-withdrawal

  The boots on the ground work is being immediately stopped - if that's not "dismantling" I'm not sure what is. Eyesinthefire (talk) 02:26, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose endorse AD's reason. — hako9 (talk) 22:46, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose we wouldn't post any other country's internal governmental reorganisation. Stephen 23:37, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  I should hope we would if it was a reorganization that dismantled an org contributing 10s of billions of dollars to international humanitarian aid. Eyesinthefire (talk) 02:23, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose There is a huge list of things happening within the US govt that most are calling a constitutional crisis, focusing on one action is very much inappropriate for ITN. Nor would I suggest anything ongoing until we start seeing either violence protests or other actions (eg something along the lines of what could have been a trade war between the US, Canada, and Mexico). --Masem (t) 02:48, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

February 2

Portal:Current events/2025 February 2

February 2, 2025 (2025-02-02) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks War against the Islamic State War in Somalia American military intervention in Somalia, Islamic State insurgency in Puntland The Puntland military spokesperson claims that U.S. airstrikes against ISIL have killed 46 fighters in the Cal Miskaad Mountains, a remote area in northeastern region Bari, Somalia. (Hiiraan Online) Arts and culture 67th Annual Grammy Awards The 67th Grammy Awards are held, with Kendrick Lamar's diss track "Not Like Us" winning all five of the awards it was nominated for, including both Song of the Year and Record of the Year. Beyoncé's Cowboy Carter album wins Album of the Year, while Chappell Roan wins Best New Artist. (Los Angeles Times) (USA Today) (The Hollywood Reporter) Disasters and accidents 2025 Queensland floods Two people are killed and thousands are forced to evacuate their homes in over 1,000 millimetres (39 in) of flooding in North Queensland, Australia. (BBC News) International relations Panama–United States relations U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio travels to Panama in his first foreign trip in the position and urges Panamanian President José Raúl Mulino to reduce Chinese influence in the Panama Canal. In response, Mulino said that his country won't renew its contracts with China's Belt and Road Initiative when they expire. (Latin Times) Saudi Arabia–Syria relations Syrian President Ahmed al-Sharaa visits Saudi Arabia for his first trip since being named president to meet with Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. (Al Jazeera) South Africa–Taiwan relations South Africa orders Taiwan to relocate its liaison office from Pretoria by the end of March, citing diplomatic policies favoring China. (Reuters) Politics and elections Protests against Donald Trump 2025 United States protests against mass deportation Thousands of demonstrators protest against immigration policies implemented by U.S. President Donald Trump in downtown Los Angeles, California, blocking the Hollywood Freeway. (KCBS-TV)

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RD: Brian Murphy

Article: Brian Murphy (actor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by Black Kite (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: English actor/comedian. Article is not ready yet for the usual reasons. Black Kite (talk) 12:37, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose, until that lengthy filmography section is sourced: see also Marianne Faithfull. It is easier for a newly created stub-plus to go through the eye of a needle than for an article created 20 years ago to enter into the kingdom of RD. Moscow Mule (talk) 20:49, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  Verily. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:51, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

RD: Marion Wiesel

Article: Marion Wiesel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
• Updated by 2603:7000:2101:AA00:200B:391F:C5EB:E244 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Thriley (talk) 05:55, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Weak Support - Article is well cited but it is just barely not a stub. I'm on the fence if it is long enough ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 16:10, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Article has been expanded. Looks ready. Thriley (talk) 18:54, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support. Adequate, and it developed nicely after nomination. Could use a paragraph of prose on her passing, is all. Moscow Mule (talk) 04:21, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Grammy Awards

Article: 67th Annual Grammy Awards (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At the Grammy Awards, Kendrick Lamar's "Not Like Us" wins Record of the Year, while Beyoncé's Cowboy Carter wins Album of the Year. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ At the Grammy Awards, Kendrick Lamar's "Not Like Us" wins Song of the Year and Record of the Year, Beyoncé's Cowboy Carter wins Album of the Year, and Chappell Roan (pictured) wins Best New Artist.
News source(s): CBS News
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Article is not close to being ready due to lack of prose about the ceremony itself (its all just tables). Masem (t) 05:05, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Wait The lead section is under development. ArionStar (talk) 06:13, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support Better now. ArionStar (talk) 12:56, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  Still far too little prose regarding the ceremony to post. — Masem (t) 12:59, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  The article has a extensive content of the event. ArionStar (talk) 13:03, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  As often pointed out for award shows and sports championships, we are expected to have a significant amount of prose around the ceremony or game, not just lots of information in tables. — Masem (t) 13:45, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - article lacks prose about ceremony ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 14:43, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support - Significant music event and ITNR. Article is in good shape, added alt blurb that mentions Chappell Roan. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 17:18, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  Support article looks better now for a famous event. 64.114 etc 17:25, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support alt in principle, oppose on quality for now - There's an overwhelming mass of tables, and virtually no prose about the ceremony. The reporting on this event has included coverage of participants' speeches, both from the podium and to the press separately; the range of outfits worn (or in one case not worn) on the red carpet, the quality of the presentation, and so on. This article has none of that, and it needs it. GenevieveDEon (talk) 17:40, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  The alt is not good, as we only feature the record and album of the year per ITNR Masem (t) 18:06, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  If we only include ROTY and SOTY, why'd you mention SOTY (and other unnamed awards) in the initial blurb? ROTY, SOTY, AOTY and BNA are considered the major four awards of the Grammys; with consensus, I believe including all four would be okay, if not better. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 18:48, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  Someone edited my original blurb. I known I only put Album and Record per ITNR. --Masem (t) 02:34, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support first blurb — I think only Record and Album of the year should be part of the blurb in the interest of conciseness, since SOTY has the same winner I don't have any problems with it being lumped in. I'm not convinced we need to also include Best New Artist, though. No comment on article quality. DecafPotato (talk) 22:11, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  They are general fields. ArionStar (talk) 00:00, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  very obviously a chappell fan lol Sheila1988 (talk) 09:50, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

  I was particularly waiting for the RAYE's victory. ArionStar (talk) 23:07, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Support, but I think the article needs some cleaning up. More ceremony information would be nice. And, agreeing with @DecafPotato, the blurb would be better without the SOTY and Best New Artist mentions. There should be a photo of Kendrick. AndrewGarfieldIsTheBestSpiderMan (talk) 02:21, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose and remove from ITNR. Theres way too much pop culture that isnt "news" featured here. nableezy - 04:43, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
  • It's called "In the News", not "News", as we feature a wide range of topics across all knowledge areas as long as they reported in the news and of quality. Not that the current article here is of quality, but the Grammys are considered the pinnacle of contemporary music recognition, and completely fair for areas that WP covers. --Masem (t) 04:58, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

2025 World Men's Handball Championship

Article: 2025 World Men's Handball Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In handball, Denmark defeat Croatia to win the World Men's Handball Championship. (Post)
News source(s): Olympics
Credits:

• Nominated by Moraljaya67 (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Moraljaya67 (talk) 23:44, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose I’d like to see more prose on the games themselves - it’s a lot of tables at the moment. The Kip ^(contribs) 23:56, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support Handball is a fairly popular globally played sport and so its world championship should be included in the ITN section like most other widely played sports' championships do. Pluma (talk) 03:24, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance. Curbon7 (talk) 10:21, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Too many tables and not enough prose for ITN recognition. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 11:26, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose completely lacking in prose about the matches themselves. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:11, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support. As Pluma said, handball is fairly popular, and globally played. 64.114 etc 17:28, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  Per Curbon7, since this is ITN/R, we are only discussing the quality of the article - which isn't that good - so I also oppose ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 18:21, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality, still lacking prose as of today. ITN/R means significance is already assumed to be there, which is expected for a world championship in a major sport. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 12:44, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Tony Martin

Article: Tony Martin (farmer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by The C of E (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British farmer at the centre of self-defence with firearms case  The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 16:14, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

• Not Quite Ready There are a couple CN tags for fairly important claims of fact. They will need cites before this can be posted. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:43, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
  • @Ad Orientem: These have now been sorted and removed. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 16:52, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
    • Support Looks good to go. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:34, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
    • Support Looks ok. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:13, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 03:16, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

February 1

Portal:Current events/2025 February 1

February 1, 2025 (2025-02-01) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks War against the Islamic State War in Somalia Al-Shabaab insurgency in Somalia At least 50 combatants are killed after fighting between Al-Shabaab and the Somali National Army and allied Ma'awisley militias in the Hiiraan and Middle Shabelle regions of Hirshabelle state, Somalia. (Idil News) (Mepa News) American military intervention in Somalia, Islamic State insurgency in Puntland U.S. President Donald Trump orders the military to carry out airstrikes against Islamic State positions in Somalia, targeting a series of cave systems used by the group. (Idil News) (Garowe Online) (BBC News) Sudanese civil war Battle of Khartoum 2025 Omdurman market attack At least 56 people are killed and 158 others are injured by Rapid Support Forces (RSF) shelling on the Sabrein Market in Omdurman, Khartoum State, Sudan. (Arab News Pakistan) (LBC Group) The RSF are accused of stealing ambulances, food supplies, and other civilian equipment in Khartoum. (Middle East Monitor) Gaza war 2025 Gaza war ceasefire, Gaza war hostage crisis Hamas releases three Israeli hostages, including Yarden Bibas. At the same time, Israel releases 183 Palestinian prisoners, seven of which were transferred to Egypt prior to their deportation. (AP) The Rafah Border Crossing between the Gaza Strip and Egypt is reopened for the first time since Israel captured it nearly nine months ago during the Rafah offensive. (AP) Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks on civilians in the Russian invasion of Ukraine A Russian missile strike on a residential building in Poltava, Ukraine, reportedly kills at least fourteen people and injures at least 17 others. A separate strike kills three police officers in Sumy Oblast. (Reuters) Syrian civil war Western Syria clashes Gunmen kill ten people in the Alawite village of Arzah in Hama Governorate, Syria. (Al Arabiya) Insurgency in Balochistan Eighteen Pakistani paramilitary troops and 24 Baloch separatists are killed in clashes in Balochistan, Pakistan. (Reuters) Business and economy Second Trump tariffs Canada–United States relations, Mexico–United States relations, 2025 United States–Canada–Mexico trade war United States President Donald Trump signs an executive order imposing a 25% tariff on goods from Canada and Mexico. (NBC News) Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announces a retaliatory 25% tariff on all U.S. goods following Trump's recent executive order. (NBC News) In Canada, British Columbia Premier David Eby announces a ban on imports of alcoholic beverages from "red U.S. states". Nova Scotia Premier Tim Houston announces that the Nova Scotia Liquor Corporation will remove all U.S. alcohol from its stores starting Tuesday. (CBC News) (CBC News) Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum announces 25% tariffs on American imports in retaliation of Trump's tariffs on the country. (Reuters) China–United States relations, China–United States trade war U.S. President Donald Trump announces 10% tariffs on goods imported from China. China vows to take the matter to the World Trade Organization. (NBC News) (Financial Post) Disasters and accidents A fire at a retirement home in Bouffémont, Val-d'Oise, France, kills three people and leaves nine others injured. (AP) Law and crime In Kyrgyzstan, the ban on the Islamic niqāb takes effect, with women facing a fine of 20,000 som ($230 USD) if they wear it in public places. (RFE/RL)

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RD: Fay Vincent

Article: Fay Vincent (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:48D:4DF6:97F:DE1E (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Commissioner of Baseball. 240F:7A:6253:1:48D:4DF6:97F:DE1E (talk) 19:11, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Quite a few unsourced statements throughout the article, and the Life after baseball section is orange tagged. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 11:28, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Zakia Jafri

Article: Zakia Jafri (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hindustan Times
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Vanamonde93 (talk · give credit)
• Created by Khaatir (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: I haven't had a chance to clean this up, posting for attention. At first glance sourcing looks okay but a copyedit to remove flowery language is needed. Vanamonde93 (talk) 06:22, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

Needs Work!: Copyedit, as well as expansion may be needed to satisfy WP:ITNQUALITY. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 09:58, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

Support RD: Ready for RD, as many issues have now been resolved. Khaatir (talk) 12:11, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support I see no issue with the article's quality as of right now. Looks good to go for ITNRD. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 11:30, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support - Not a huge article but looks good enough ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 15:25, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• I gave it a once over yesterday, I believe it's now good enough if a bit sparse. I won't mark this ready myself, as I'm the nominator. Vanamonde93 (talk) 17:33, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 01:27, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) Second Trump tariffs

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Second Trump tariffs (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The United States imposes tariffs of 25 percent on most goods from Canada and Mexico, and 10 percent on goods from China (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ U.S. president Donald Trump imposes tariffs of 25 percent on most goods from Canada and Mexico, and of 10 percent on goods from China.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The United States imposes near-universal tariffs on Canada, Mexico, and China, prompting Canada and Mexico to launch retaliatory tariffs against the United States.
Alternative blurb III: ​ A trade war begins after U.S. President Donald Trump imposes near-universal tariffs on Canada, Mexico, and China, prompting Canada and Mexico to launch retaliatory tariffs against the United States.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ The United States imposes tariffs on Canada, Mexico, and China, leading to a trade war with Canada and Mexico.
News source(s): Bloomberg News
Credits:

• Nominated by ElijahPepe (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Nominating because the tariffs against China in 2018 were posted. The tariffs are not in effect yet. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 23:08, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support on Tuesday (when they are set to take effect) — I'd usually oppose ITN posting Trump's numerous actions but this is a major move from the world's largest economy on its three largest trading partners that could completely reshape global supply routes and production. DecafPotato (talk) 23:56, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

  Comment — I've added an altblurb that I'd prefer. DecafPotato (talk) 23:59, 1 February 2025 (UTC) Changing my support to alt blurbs covering the retaliatory tariffs as well. DecafPotato (talk) 06:13, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support on Tuesday per DecafPotato. Major action of the many done by Trump. This may affect and reshape the economy of many countries. 00:04, 2 February 2025 (UTC) Vamos Palmeiras (talk) 00:04, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support - Significant since the US is alienating all of its allies. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 00:14, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

  If you are going to go off-topic @SimpleSubCubicGraph and violate Wikipedia rules, then perhaps you should read-up on what happened the last time the USA pulled this stunt in 1930, turning a recession into the Great Depression. Nfitz (talk) 07:04, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

• Wait until Tuesday to post, then support posting. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 00:17, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait until the precise details tariffs and expected retaliatory tariffs are known, then support an altblurb incorporating details of the retaliation as well. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 00:21, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait until the tariffs actually take effect (because we don't have precise details yet), and altblurb per Patar Knight above. Black Kite (talk) 00:28, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait, as the larger story is the expected tariffs that Canada and Mexico have suggested they will impose as a result, creating a trade war, which is the much larger story, and would need to be different article (or a refocusing of the current). If Canada and/or Mexico does nothing, and the story is only the tariffs set by Trump, I would oppose this, as there's a bunch more other stuff that Trump has done already in office that is subjectively more harmful. I seriously doubt that neither Canada or Mexico will do anything but we need to be more focused on the larger story here, that of the international situation. (We already have had tariffs on China, they have put their own in reverse, but that was basically a blink of the eye in terms of headlines). --Masem (t) 00:53, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait until Tuesday as per above. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:28, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait Until tariffs go into effect Personisinsterest (talk) 02:30, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait until Tuesday when we see if the USA backs down again, or further retaliates as they've promised too. And to see the list of what Canada and Mexico have put tariffs on. Nfitz (talk) 03:31, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait until Tuesday per above.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 03:52, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

  I would support with retargeting to 2025 United States–Canada–Mexico trade war instead per DecafPotato and RachelTensions below. The Second Trump Tariffs article is not NPOV, the more general article about the trade conflict is better.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 17:26, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

  Support this Personisinsterest (talk) 17:49, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

• Wait for Tuesday per above. A lot could happen between now and then. Mexico and Canada are already announcing retaliatory measures. And we have yet to hear from China. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:55, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

  According to the Ministry of Commerce, China will file a case against the U.S. in the World Trade Organization and "take corresponding countermeasures". elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 04:21, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

  I will be interested to see how Wall Street takes all of this when the markets open on Monday morning. At least one of the super banks seems to be rigging for foul weather. JP Morgan Chase is airlifting $4 billion in gold bullion to its New York vaults. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:29, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

• Wait for Tuesday, and the article needs to be expanded (and likely retitled) to reflect the entire trade war - not simply Trump's tariffs, but the responses by both Canada and Mexico, before posting it. In other words, oppose on completeness until the full reaction by Canada/Mexico is accounted for. And then oppose current blurbs for being too US centric. Donald Trump does not even need to be mentioned - this is a full on trade war between three countries, and there should be no special treatment of one. Recommend the following as a blurb: The United States imposes tariffs on Canada, China, and Mexico, which impose retaliatory tariffs on the US. - needs some workshopping, but needs to include all three countries and the fact they retaliate. The exact percentage/scope of the tariffs is not important. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 05:08, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support new altblurb 2 with retaliatory tariffs per berchanhimez. Not sure how to word it semantically, but the blurb needs to make clear this is now an active trade war, as opposed to one-way tariffs by the USA on these three countries. The retaliatory tariffs are essential to paint a full picture; the current blurb is misleading by telling only 50% of the story. Flip^andFlopped ツ 05:16, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

  Put in an altblurb 2. Per above, feel free to edit the verbiage if someone can think of a better way to phrase it - I just think it is important the retaliatory tariffs are mentioned for NPOV purposes. Flip^andFlopped ツ 05:21, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

  Now that I think it, perhaps adding a small note about the scope would be useful. Rather than the percent, I'd consider adding "universal" or "near universal" - to clarify for people reading the blurb that they are on all (or almost all) items that are being traded, rather than targeted at specific industries/problematic companies/etc. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 05:51, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

  I think "near-universal" would be good to include DecafPotato (talk) 06:12, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

  Added that to the alt. Also, friendly reminder to all that changing the initial indentation between colons : and asterisks * can break screen readers among other aspects of accessibility, and is able to be fixed by anyone, so I've done so here throughout this thread. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 06:15, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Lots of quality problems with the nominated article including an orange cleanup tag. The article has poor tone and weak content and its scope is unclear. The topic seems so mired in ongoing US politics that early and easy resolution seems unlikely. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:17, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose as this is very likely only the opening salvo of a broader trade war. Canada, Mexico and China will probably retaliate, leading to a tit for tat. And the EU may be slapped with tariffs any day as well, leading to more of the same... Yakikaki (talk) 10:13, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Comment — I've created 2025 United States trade war with Canada and Mexico, which focuses on the U.S. trade war with Canada and Mexico specifically instead of on Trump's tariff policy more broadly. I think it would probably be better suited for the ITN blurb. DecafPotato (talk) 11:33, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support with retarget to 2025 United States–Canada–Mexico trade war, which is well written and in good shape. RachelTensions (talk) 14:56, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

Added altblurb 3 with new target article. Pinging users who opposed on quality or prior blurb phrasing to see if they now support with the new target article, because I think we should have this lined up for a Tuesday posting if there is consensus on notability: DecafPotato, Andrew Davidson, The C of E, berchanhimez. Flip^andFlopped ツ 18:18, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Too many tags on it and seems a standard, albeit harsh, act in world geopolitics that's just getting a little more attention because of the one man whom is imposing them. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 16:44, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

  Standard act? On a Canada-USA perspective, this is anything but standard, with nothing comparable since Hoover did similar to trigger the Great Depression. Trump has been pretty clear about wanting to acquire Canada by economic force; the only thing that's comparable to that is the Russian invasion of Ukraine. So far though, this is just a threat. We need to wait. Nfitz (talk) 19:57, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

• STRONG oppose The article is absolutely WOEFUL with no data on the tariffs themselves.

However, also mention the retaliation (For which canada's is explicit and mexico is due)Sportsnut24 (talk) 17:14, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

• Wait, then Support for alt3. This is going to be the start of a long and transformative trade war, and deserves to be featured on ITN. We should wait until Tuesday to post it Hungry403 (talk) 21:40, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Given that Trump is now rambling about imposing tariffs on the EU and possibly the UK, we could be here for a while; perhaps this might be best as an Ongoing? Black Kite (talk) 08:37, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  If Trump saying things was the standard then Donald Trump would have been pinned to Ongoing for the past nine-and-a-half years. DecafPotato (talk) 10:19, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  He is the one who is playing a big role in forming these policies now, isn't he? Black kite suggests clubbing further tariffs he imposes on countries with this tariff war. If you mean that he is just not going to do that and speaking for no reason, state that. - 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 10:24, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  My point is that, like I said in my comment earlier in this thread, Trump says a lot of stuff and he comparatively does a lot less. If the U.S. actually imposes tariffs on the E.U. and U.K., then yeah I'd support that, but words are not actions and shouldn't be posted to ITN. DecafPotato (talk) 10:57, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - unless and until anything actually happens. Mexico's president is now saying that Trump has agreed to postpone the imposition of tariffs on Mexico for a month following a call between the two (see here). Until something actually happens there is nothing to feature here. nableezy - 15:38, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait, Trump has said that he will delay tariffs on Mexico for a month, so we'll see if anything major happens there. If the situation with Canada or China escalates, however, I would support a ITN blurb. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chorchapu (talk • contribs) 17:16, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support What makes it even more significant is that Canada is fighting back with counter-tariffs. 64.114 etc 17:29, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• comment Mexico tarriffs are NOT going into effect tomorrow. nbc49.206.5.189 (talk) 18:25, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Change to oppose Per Justin Trudeau, the Canada tariffs are now delayed by 30 days as well, in addition to the Mexico tariffs. The sheerly ridiculous and stressful nature of this entire thing has also led to difficulties with how we now treat this nom. In retrospect, it is certainly good we did not blurb early. Is the entire international relations snafu and stock market crash blurb-worthy? Are the China tariffs alone blurb-worthy? Maybe, but this discussion is too muddled now, so I think we need to have a separate renomination for either the China tariff alone or for the "incident" if people want to blurb that. Flip^andFlopped ツ 21:56, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  In the future if we have Trump or any world leader saying X will happen in a short period from now (days to a few weeks) where there are clear international effects like a trade war, we should not entertain that as an ITNC until it actually happens. Or we should have a "vetting" process that helps to focus the target article to be close to ready when it does)(like here making sure the trade war article was the focus and not just the US tariffs). Dunno how we can easily do the latter. — Masem (t) 22:13, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  I don't think we've done anything wrong in this case; having an article ready but not posting unless the thing actually happens seems to be the best possible solution. DecafPotato (talk) 22:19, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose, on account of new information that neither the Canada nor Mexico tariffs are going into effect, at least currently. The way I see it, these are much bigger potentially than the China tariff, on account of the fact that they're not anything new with this administration in particular, and more expected. I also think that the situation, broadly speaking, does not measure up. Had the concessions Mexico and Canada offered been larger, maybe, but they are more or less just better border enforcement, which is non a non-story, but also events that would largely go unnominated here had they occurred otherwise. No prejudice against posting a month from now if the tariffs happen anyway, but right now I think the standoff has thawed some. DarkSide830 (talk) 22:45, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  I think if 20,000ish troops started advancing on both sides of the country otherwise, it'd get nominated even quicker. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:49, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Tariffs canceled for Mexico and Canada. Johndavies837 (talk) 23:15, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

So I guess we're gonna have to wait until March until they may or may not take effect? Very strange situation. Harizotoh9 (talk) 23:50, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

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(Closed) Southern California Wildfires contained

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Article: January 2025 Southern California wildfires (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The unusually destructive and deadly fires that burned the Greater Los Angeles area has now been fully contained. (Post)
News source(s): https://www.nbcnews.com/weather/wildfires/palisades-eaton-fire-la-contained-rcna188338
Credits:

• Nominated by SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Wildfires getting contained aren't usually ITN worthy. However given most major news sources are reporting on it, and that the wildfires were unusually deadly (28 dead) and costly (billions in damages) I think it is ITN worthy.

• Oppose We're not a news ticker, just because an event is being widely reported doesn't make it ITN appropriate. We've covered the wildfires already and we've never posted the "end" of previous wildfires. Masem (t) 20:48, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Per Masem ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 21:34, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per above. The Kip ^(contribs) 21:48, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per Masem. SpectralIon 23:07, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per Masem. The fires and damage caused by the fires were the story. Natg 19 (talk) 05:14, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

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2025 Omdurman market attack

Article: 2025 Omdurman market attack (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ An attack at a market in Omdurman, Sudan, kills 56 people and wounds 158 others. (Post)
News source(s): France24 Iraqi News Washington Post The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)

 ArionStar (talk) 15:37, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Support: The event has articles about it from several news stations worldwide. While I think there could be more larger sources in the news sources it is still a WAR CRIME and is a part of the greater escalation of the Battle of Khartoum and the overall war itself. Vamos Palmeiras (talk) 15:50, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Horrific, but it’s covered by the ongoing item. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:06, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Such shelling seems to be a regular feature of the fighting for this city. See Battle of Khartoum (2023–present). Andrew🐉(talk) 16:29, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Correcting/adding nomination header. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 17:28, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Support: Horrible/horrific event, now becoming internationally known and being transmitted by some of the most reliable sources worldwide. Big escalation as stated before, and shelling is becoming progressively worse now with hundreds affected. NuestroBrasil (talk) 17:46, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Support - @The Kip just because its covered by ongoing does not mean significant events cant be covered in ITN, biggest example is Israel-Palestine. Support because 56 people dying is very signifcant. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 18:58, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

@SimpleSubCubicGraph we haven’t posted any Gaza war blurbs outside of the initial attacks and the ceasefire, which de facto ended the war for now. The Kip ^(contribs) 20:16, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

For the Sudanese Civil War, a massacre that occurred after the Battle of Geneina was blurbed. However, that massacre was much deadlier than this attack. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 20:48, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

I remember nominating that specific occurance. That massacre if I'm sure killed over 10,000-20,000+ but there is to note that was the last time any article connected with the Sudanese civil war was blurbed at all. Also like this happening it was transmitted and made known by several reliable sources. At the end of the day these are two horrible occurances.Vamos Palmeiras (talk) 20:58, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per The Kip and Andrew Davidson. Covered by ongoing and in a battle that has claimed the lives of 60,000+ so far, this unfortunately doesn’t seem too out of the ordinary… though I wish I could say otherwise. ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 19:13, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per The Kip, Andrew, and mike_gigs, both sides of the Sudanese Civil War are sadly committing atrocities all of the time and this is simply one of them, most likely not even the most major. --SpectralIon 19:24, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support While I've been away from Wikipedia for quite some time I've looked into wars recently and this war crime as stated by @Vamos Palmeiras is quite grave and while it might not be rare in the conflict as a whole, it is rare in Khartoum which is having as also said before a ESCALATION in the battle. In the article it is also stated that the Rapid Support Forces are aiming to retake territory and most likely this was perpetrated by them to start this campaign. This is what I may call the start of a Butterfly effect! Subaru2000 (talk) 20:07, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Lean support given the media coverage over and above the rest of the war This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:28, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support and any number of Russia Ukraine war events were posted while it remained in ongoing. Significant event and merits a blurb. nableezy - 23:26, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

  @Nableezy as far as I can recall, we only posted the Bucha massacre - we didn’t post the Kharkiv/Kherson counteroffensives or the Kursk offensive, among other notable events of the war. The Kip ^(contribs) 00:50, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

  Along with the Putin ICC arrest warrant off the top of my head. And relatedly the Wagner Group head plane crash. nableezy - 01:11, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

  I believe that the sinking of the Moskva was also posted. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 07:15, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Such incidences are routine in total wars. Exceptions should be truly exceptional, such as when we posted the discovery of several thousand massacred civilians in the aftermath of the Battle of Geneina. Curbon7 (talk) 02:36, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

  As an example, RSF forces bombed a hospital just last week, killing 70 people. In December, another market was bombed killing at least 100. Curbon7 (talk) 21:46, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Oppose Routine in total war. Sushidude21! (talk) 07:11, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

Comment: The event was now also condemned by the United Nations due to being a distinct attack against the civilian population. Sources: 1. (Malaysia Sun)2.(Ahram) NuestroBrasil (talk) 01:13, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Update: UN declares the attack as a war crime. ArionStar (talk) 17:08, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Support. This rare, horrific event claimed 56 lives (that’s a lot) and is getting coverage by global news sources all around the world. 64.114 etc 17:32, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Horst Köhler

Article: Horst Köhler (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tagesschau
Credits:

• Nominated by CDE34RFV (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Federal President of Germany from 2004 to 2010. One of the most popular politicians in Germany at the time. Article could be expanded a bit, but otherwise is in a good shape. Based on how coverage and notability evolves, this maybe could warrant a blurb too, but I'm not too sure about that. CDE34RFV (talk) 11:08, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support blurb. Former president of G7 country. Is written to have been popular president. Director of IMF. Very important figure. BilboBeggins (talk) 11:24, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Added blurb to nomination. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 12:30, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb President of Germany is a mostly ceremonial position, and just being a director of IMF means nothing. The article gives no explanation to why he was a major figure to support a blurb, and what I'm seeing from English sources covering his death, nothing in his bio stands out as being a major figure. Oppose RD on quality issues. --Masem (t) 12:37, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

  Why, why should former Germany president not blurbed, when Fillipino actress, unknown in the world, was blurbed? BilboBeggins (talk) 19:11, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

  @BilboBeggins: Do not drag in repeated comparisons which would prolong discussions unnecessarily. If you have questions, use talk pages of relevant information/help pages or user talk pages, or any of the multiple ways to get help. Thanks, 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 19:16, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb The president of Germany isn’t elected through a popular vote, so being merely a former officeholder isn’t significant. As for the other indicators of significance that justify a blurb, I agree with Masem that there’s nothing exceptional in his biography.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 12:50, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

  His commitment for Africa was exceptional. Grimes2 (talk) 12:57, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

  Then there should be sources that explain how all that is part of his legacy and demonstrate how he was a great figure. Again, the sources in English on his death that I see do note his attention on Africa in the later part of his life, but nothing that indicates a major factor, much less that being appropriately summarized in the article. Masem (t) 13:06, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Nominator's comment: Weak oppose blurb per above. I might've left open the possibility, but I myself don't think that this death is blurb-worthy. He's had some notable influence, but wielded no sufficient power to merit a blurb. Support RD once ready. CDE34RFV (talk) 13:01, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD, weak oppose blurb Article is in good enough shape for RD. In terms of blurb, while I do support blurbing the death of G20 leaders, I feel that for Germany that would fall under the chancellor and not the president since it's mostly a ceremonial role. However, I could be swayed if the article had a thorough legacy section as to how he possibly became an influential figure in the country and abroad. A little mention of it in the lead could be nice. What got me to think this might be blurbworthy was seeing how at some point he was more popular than his chancellor such as Merkel (which is something IMO). However it'd be nice for his article to reflect his notability in the role or his influence. I could even see an argument being made if he had a massive/influential impact as International Monetary Fund director as well, but that would have to be thoroughly stated in the article. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 13:23, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Support RD: Blurb him only if he had his personal legacy and not because he was President of Germany, not all got one. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 13:27, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb, Support RD Kohler isn't getting blurbed when serving alongside Schroder or Merkel (regardless of approval ratings of a ceremonial position). No opinion on RD. Gotitbro (talk) 16:17, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD, unsure on blurb It's unfair to oppose merely because he's president and not chancellor, but I'm also unsure if he's important enough to warrant a blurb. Yo.dazo (talk) 16:54, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD, Oppose Blurb President of Germany is a ceremonial role and I'm not sure if we've posted IMF Directors before. The article seems good for RD. --SpectralIon 19:23, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD, oppose blurb per SpectralIon. The Kip ^(contribs) 21:49, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb per above and on principle against RDB This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 23:58, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Removed blurb as consensus is unlikely to develop. As for RD, it should be good to go by now. CDE34RFV (talk) 13:37, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD. Good to go. Moscow Mule (talk) 15:28, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD, oppose blurb Looks well written but I have to oppose blurb as I'm not seeing how he's been influential given most people assumed Merkel was the more well known and influential at the time. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 16:42, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD - well cited and written.BabbaQ (talk) 18:30, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 19:21, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

January 31

Portal:Current events/2025 January 31

January 31, 2025 (2025-01-31) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Sudanese civil war Battle of Khartoum 2025 Bahri offensive The Sudanese Armed Forces announce that they have nearly captured all of Bahri, Khartoum State, Sudan. (Radio Dabanga) (Sudan Tribune) Israeli invasion of Lebanon 2024 Israel–Lebanon ceasefire agreement Two people are killed and ten others are injured during Israeli airstrikes in the Beqaa Valley, Lebanon. (Al Jazeera) Kivu conflict M23 offensive, Democratic Republic of the Congo–Rwanda conflict The Congolese military launches a counterattack against M23 rebels in South Kivu province with the assistance of the Burundian military. (Reuters) Russian invasion of Ukraine Odesa strikes Russian forces launch ballistic missiles at the centre of Odesa and its port, severely damaging numerous civilian buildings, including the historic Bristol Hotel. At least two people are reportedly injured. (Reuters) Somali Civil War Somali President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud and Prime Minister Hamza Abdi Barre escape after security guards shoot down one of two drones hovering over Villa Somalia in Mogadishu, Somalia. The drones are believed to be used by ISIL and Al-Shabaab. This comes after previous Somali Civil Aviation Authority warnings. (Idil News) (Horn Observer) Mexican drug war An improvised device left by cartel members blasts in Ejido Santa Rita, San Fernando, Tamaulipas, left two peasants dead and a woman injured. (El Sol de Tampico) Business and economy 2025 Yugosphere retail boycotts Following boycotts in Croatia on January 24, and in conjunction with a follow-up boycott in the country, residents of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, Montenegro, and North Macedonia start a boycott of retail stores in response to rising prices. (Intellinews) Multinational telecoms company BT Group announces that it will layoff 55,000 employees across its global workforce citing a significant drop in revenue in 2024 and "challenges in international markets". (Business Plus) Disasters and accidents 2025 California wildfires January 2025 Southern California wildfires The California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection reports that the Palisades and Eaton fires are contained. (NBC News) Med Jets Flight 056 A Learjet 55 air ambulance crashes in Northeast Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States, after departing from Northeast Philadelphia Airport, killing all six people onboard and damaging multiple homes and businesses. One person on the ground is also killed and 19 more injured. (AP) Five people are killed and two more injured in Aghjabadi, Azerbaijan, after a child accidentally detonates a discovered hand grenade in their house. (Xinhua) International relations 2025 Philippine espionage case, Territorial disputes in the South China Sea Philippine President Bongbong Marcos states that he is careful of possible surveillance of the country's air and naval bases as well as the movement of vessels supplying Philippine garrisons in the South China Sea following a series of arrests of suspected Chinese spies in the Philippines. (CNA) Law and crime United States–Venezuela relations Venezuela frees six American hostages after U.S. Special Presidential Envoy for Special Missions Richard Grenell meets with Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro. (The Hill) Myanmar's ruling military junta extends the country's state of emergency for another six months. (Reuters) Philippine National Bureau of Investigation agents arrest 100 people in Makati, Metro Manila, Philippines, for allegedly running an online scam operation as offshore gaming operators are banned in the country. (Arab News) Politics and elections 2024–2025 Belgian government formation An agreement is reached among five Belgian political parties to form a new coalition government to be headed by future prime minister Bart De Wever. (Belga) 2025 Greek presidential election The Hellenic Parliament fails to elect the new President of Greece in the second round, calling for a third round of voting on February 6. (Greek City Times)

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2025 Balkan retail boycotts

Article: 2025 Balkan retail boycotts (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A series of boycotts against retail stores in several Southeast European countries begins. (Post)
News source(s): IntelliNews
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)
• Created by Knightoftheswords281 (talk · give credit)

 ArionStar (talk) 04:09, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Support Article is of sufficient notability and quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:16, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Support per the above. 64.114 etc 04:42, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Oppose - No one cares about a bunch of people boycotting some small supermarket retail in the Balkans. Nestle has had an active boycott of over 40 years yet we dont cover it ever. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 04:47, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Even if the supermarket retail is small, a boycott where 89.5% of a country is participating is still notable. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 08:41, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Wait, leaning oppose - At the moment, we're only seeing the proposed action, not the impact. Calling for a boycott is easy; making change with one is difficult. (Which is why people are still boycotting Nestle after 40 years - it's had minimal effect on policy.) I'm not against this in principle, but we'd need to see it actually achieve something. GenevieveDEon (talk) 06:53, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Government measures are being introduced all the time. Some of them didn’t pay off, so the boycotts call for different measures. This is well-covered in the article.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support These are certainly notable and very unusual boycotts triggered by the elevated consumer prices and the high profit margins.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:55, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support This is affecting the economy of the Balkans in a significant way. Rager7 (talk) 08:49, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support: The article indicates that the boycotts have had an impact, with price caps being introduced. This is an interesting international popular movement. Ironic (talk) 11:38, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Weak support This doesn't seem all that notable to me, but it did have an impact on prices, so I guess. Personisinsterest (talk) 12:38, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Weak Oppose for now. Currently the article only discusses the direct impact of the boycotts in Croatia, not any other countries. Until we see how it impacts nations on a wider scale I don’t know if this is notable enough to post. I also feel like the article is a big vague in places about what exactly is being boycotted and thwart the impacts have been. ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 14:59, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

  The boycott in other countries just started on January 30… Let's wait for updates. ArionStar (talk) 15:31, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose on Quality. I think the article could use some fleshing out of it's constituent sections. One small concern I have is not every country's section makes mention of the chains being boycotted. I understand it's a very broad boycott, but mentioning specific chains would probably better inform readers on the exact scope of the boycotts. Just my two cents, not a massive concern. DarkSide830 (talk) 22:53, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

RD: John Erwin

Article: John Erwin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American voice actor, notable for that of He-Man from the 70s/80s cartoons. While he died back in December, his family did not publically announce this until today. A few unsourced statements. Masem (t) 21:01, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose A bit stubby, and the Filmography section is entirely unsourced. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 11:34, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) 2025 Philadelphia Learjet crash

Article: 2025 Philadelphia Learjet crash (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A Learjet 55 crashes (explosion pictured) into multiple buildings and houses in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States, killing at least seven people and injuring over nineteen others. (Post)
News source(s): CBSThe Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Personisinsterest (talk · give credit)

 Personisinsterest (talk) 01:16, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Weak support Article looks good. Not wanting to compare (but), this is less serious than the Potomac crash, however, the nature of 'turning into a fireball and dropping into the ground to burn multiple people' is clearly unusual. As it is, that makes it newsworthy for me - it's probably subjective but then I would assume when more details emerge about why that unusualness happened, it may solidify the argument. Kingsif (talk) 01:37, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Supported Article looks good, and this was streamed on all of the major news broadcast networks and was also briefed to President Donald Trump, so it should belong to be on the main page. Vlklng (talk) 01:47, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Weak oppose as comparatively minor compared to such events as the Potomac crash. The Kip ^(contribs) 02:00, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Pull this and the South Sudan crash - IMO, it’s absurd that either were posted, owing to a lack of greater notability/consequences in either instance. The Kip ^(contribs) 14:14, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Wait for at least a day after the crash. Not much information is known right now, and usually it will take a few days to get more or at the very least a day. I support the notability as it crashed into restaurants, buildings, houses and next to a mall. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 02:01, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Strong Support, the Potomac Crash had not that much information, yet added to the in the news ection. Shaneapickle (talk) 02:04, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Support, a small plane crashing in a dense urban area and starting fires is definitely newsworthy. Chorchapu (talk) 02:13, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support per discussion above. Interstellarity (talk) 02:19, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait to see the impact on the ground, the notability hinges on it crashing into an urban area but would not be inclined to support if there are no ground injuries/fatalities. Jumpytoo Talk 02:46, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait/weak support - likely a large number of ground fatalities, but we don't know that for certain at this point. Jay8g [V•T•E] 03:21, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose for now - Fatal aircraft accidents involving small aircraft are relatively common; the main reason this has received as much coverage as it has was because it hit an urban area and happened 2 days after the Potomac crash. E_F⁵ 03:23, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Lean Support Sure it’s pretty minor compared to the Potomac mid-air collision, but this kind of plane crash is quite unheard of and it made national headlines. I think it would make national news without the Potomac collision. A similar crash, the 1999 South Dakota Learjet crash, made national headlines. However, it’s probably because it has a famous golfer in it. I will make a more definitive opinion once more information comes out. INeedSupport ^:3 03:28, 1 February 2025 (UTC) (edit conflict)

  Now that the number of injuries is known, I support this being in ITN more. A typical small plane crash doesn’t usually injure nineteen people.

  INeedSupport ^:3 21:04, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support due to the rarity of American jets crashing, as well as it crashing into a densely populated urban area. Flip^andFlopped ツ 05:50, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Conditional support if the death count goes above 10.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:58, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Wait This may become notable enough to post. However, I’d note that there’d need to be a significant death toll on the ground for this plane crash to be deadlier than the S. Sudanese plane crash on January 29, which hasn’t been blurbed yet. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 06:42, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

  That item has been held up for quality reasons, not notability. Given the number of editors interested in improving the article on the South Sudan crash, the US bias seemingly only extends to the attention at ITN, though the number of !votes on that item is not poor, either. Also, notability isn't related to blurb posting schedules and we shouldn't concern ourselves with an administrative level of other stuff. Kingsif (talk) 12:25, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

  I think the quality of the S. Sudanese plane crash article is good enough now. I was voicing my concern about US-centric bias & hoping to bring more attention to the discussion about whether or not the S. Sudanese plane crash should be blurbed. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 20:12, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Wait Per Blaylockjam10. This is a significant story, but it's not more significant for happening in the USA. Let's see what develops. GenevieveDEon (talk) 06:54, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose six fatalities, while unfortunate, does not rise to the ITN-worthiness of the Potomac River accident. _-_Alsor (talk) 11:20, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

  Oppose per the above. 64.114 etc 14:24, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support Incident is receiving coverage in major non-US news sources and article is in decent shape. P1^{(she/her, talk/contribs)} 17:07, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Oppose It's sad, but six people just doesn't cut it. And yes, WP:MINIMUMDEATHS is not a thing, but we can also apply our sense. Small aircraft often crash and this accident is only gaining attention due to it being a more urban area. Bremps... 17:39, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Weak Support since I'm not sure if 7 deaths is enough to justify a blurb, even if this is a tragedy. --SpectralIon 19:21, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

  Suport a joint blurb with the Potomac accident. ArionStar (talk) 19:34, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

  should not be put together because they are not related. The news must be assessed individually. _-_Alsor (talk) 20:38, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support I believe this is an incident that should achieve ITN stature. Even without including WP:MINIMUMDEATHS, this is a decently sized number of people immedietelty effected by this disaster as pointed out above by User:INeedSupport. Additionally, this is an incident that would effect both the US and Mexico, with the incident being responded to by the Mexican president. Lastly, whilst I am aware there are many small-plane accidents a year, its more uncommon for an accident like this to happen in such a desenly-populated area as this, which I believe contributes to notability. Side note: Should the article be posted, the blurb should be changed to mention the flight name instead of Learjet 55. CaptainGalaxy 03:34, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support Article in good shape, this is making global news headlines and planes falling from the sky onto neighborhoods in the U.S., let alone around the world, is a bit rare (especially given the back-to-back nature of airplane accidents as of late in the U.S.). --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 09:23, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose. As noted, small aircraft crash more frequently. Lasting encyclopedic impact of this one? The 2008 Mexico City Learjet crash only got posted because of the extreme prominence of the passengers, and even that met with resistance. Moscow Mule (talk) 14:35, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

Support not sure where the argument of "learjets crash all the time" is coming from. I count it three times in this discussion. It was still a major aviation accident, and this is the only fatal learjet crash on the learjets' page. Scuba 00:04, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

"Light aircraft", not Learjets specifically. In any case, that's what I was told on Portal:Current events when a Beechcraft C90 went down over Mumbai. And the company's previous crash didn't survive Afd. (Other Learjet models have longer lists of fatal crashes.) Moscow Mule (talk) 05:46, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support, echoing Flipandflopped (although it looks like it was a Mexican jet). The article appears to be in good shape. -- Tavix ^(talk) 00:16, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Looks like a rough consensus in the end. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 07:10, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  Blurb looks incorrect. It says "killing all 7 on board", but the article says all 6 on board were killed, plus 1 on the ground. Adpete (talk) 07:13, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  Looks to have been corrected. Aydoh8^[contribs] 07:38, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Pull This isn't an aircrash of the magnitude to make the front page, small aircraft crash killing all occupants regularly. This is newsworthy because of the previous incident. Secretlondon (talk) 08:00, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Pull per Secretlondon. Sdkb ^talk 09:15, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  Speedy pull Not a major plane crash. ArionStar (talk) 12:59, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  Keep, this plane accident injured 19+ and killed 7 or more people, why are we keeping the south sudan plane when its "not important enough to be on the front page" Shaneapickle (talk) 13:04, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  Small plane crash with small consequences. Why wasn't 2024 Gramado Piper PA-42 crash posted? ArionStar (talk) 13:15, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  yeah exactly that one had atleast 10 deaths and 17 injuries Shaneapickle (talk) 13:18, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  The Brazilian one wasn't posted with the same arguments. The article is good, though. ArionStar (talk) 13:22, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• A reminder that the world does not revolve around things happening in the US. We need to not be blind to the excessive media coverage of such events. As has been pointed out, small private aircraft have crashed far more often (private flights lack the same rigorous regulations compared to commercial flights) throughout the world, and should be considered equivalent to private vehicle accidents. Masem (t) 13:08, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  but still, there is still an investigation going on but if it is removed,then that means if they re-add it back its going to confuse people. Shaneapickle (talk) 13:16, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  exactly _-_Alsor (talk) 13:18, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  it would be better to keep this alongide the january 29th south sudan crash Shaneapickle (talk) 13:19, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  At ITN we don't mix unrelated events even if they are in the same topic field. It creates perceptions that the events may be linked. Masem (t) 13:21, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  @Masem: a Global North mainstream, I guess. By the way, @King of Hearts: it's ready to pull. ArionStar (talk) 13:24, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  The "small private aircraft" bit should also apply to the South Sudan crash; I don't know why that same standard is not being applied. There's currently three plane crashes in ITN and only one of them legitimately merited posting. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:44, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Pull @King of Hearts: while tragic, this is nowhere near the calibre of incident which we would typically post, as has been detailed severally above. Please remove it ASAP  — Amakuru (talk) 14:11, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  The decision of whether to post is ultimately a subjective judgment call, and different people are going to have different opinions. I see no policy-based reason to disregard any of the !votes, so I went with the clear majority. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 18:23, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Keep: If a plane crashed into the middle of a city with over 5,000,000 people in another country I think that should also be posted, so this isn't US-centric to me. This situation (plane crash into a large city with air and ground fatalities) seems relatively unprecedented, so we should keep this up. Rahcmander (talk) 14:28, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

The plane crashed in a suburban neighborhood of a city and there are no 5 million people directly affected. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:44, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Keep - it's rare enough that this deserves to be posting. I'd support it if it happened in another country, too. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 22:02, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• I'd like to move to close this nom. I think the arguments both ways have merit, but we're probably in "snow keep" territory if such a thing exists, barring more impactful arguments to close. DarkSide830 (talk) 03:54, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

January 30

Portal:Current events/2025 January 30

January 30, 2025 (2025-01-30) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Kivu conflict M23 offensive 2025 Goma offensive Rwandan-backed M23 rebels say they will march on the DRC capital Kinshasa and install a new government as Congolese president Félix Tshisekedi calls for a mobilization of young males to reclaim lost territory. Congolese Defence Minister Guy Kabombo Muadiamvita says there will be no peace talks with the rebels. (AP) After establishing a new administration in Goma, Congo River Alliance leader Corneille Nangaa confirms his forces now plan on overthrowing president Félix Tshisekedi. He also says services in the city will return to normal soon as the United Nations warns of a humanitarian crisis. (BBC News) M23 forces advance into South Kivu, capturing several towns and villages, including Kalungu in Kalehe Territory. (MSN) Somali Civil War Puntland–Somaliland dispute Spillover of Las Anod conflict SSC Khaatumo has claimed victory over Somaliland forces after heavy fighting erupted and undisclosed casualties early Thursday in the Shangeed area, located between Qoorlugud and Buuhoodle of Cayn region. Somalia. (Hiiraan Online) Gaza war 2025 Gaza war ceasefire, Gaza war hostage crisis Hamas free eight hostages, three Israelis and five Thai nationals. (The Times of Israel) Israel releases 110 Palestinian prisoners after initially delaying their release in protest of the chaotic scenes at the handover of several hostages in Khan Yunis, Gaza, earlier today, citing concerns for the hostages' safety. (Reuters) Hamas confirms that Israel killed Mohammed Deif along with Marwan Issa, Raed Thabet, Rafa Salama, Ayman Nofal and Ghazi Abu Tamaa. (Al Arabiya) 2023 Quran burnings in Sweden, Islam and blasphemy Killing of Salwan Momika Islam critic and Quran burner Salwan Momika is assassinated at his apartment in Södertälje, Sweden. (BBC News) Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks on civilians in the Russian invasion of Ukraine A Russian drone strikes a multi-storey apartment building in Sumy, Ukraine, killing nine people and injuring 13 others. (Reuters) Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa A shootout between the Pakistan Army and Pakistani Taliban in North Waziristan District, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan, leaves two soldiers and six militants dead. (AP) French military withdrawal from West Africa The French Armed Forces returns their last military base in Chad to the Chad National Army, bringing an end to French military presence in the country. (AP) Disasters and accidents 2025 Potomac River mid-air collision The District of Columbia Fire and Emergency Medical Services Department says no survivors are expected after the midair collision between an American Airlines airliner and a military helicopter last night over Washington, D.C., United States, making it the deadliest aviation disaster in the U.S. since American Airlines Flight 587 in 2001. (CNN) Health and environment Uganda confirms an outbreak of Ebola, with the first death, a nurse at Mulago National Specialised Hospital in Kampala, being confirmed yesterday. (Reuters) The United States Federal Drug Administration approves Vertex Pharmaceuticals' new Journavx drug, a non-opioid analgesic used to treat acute pain and potentially eliminate the risks of opioid addiction and overdose. (AP) (FDA) Law and crime FBI Ten Most Wanted Fugitives Arnoldo Jimenez is arrested in Monterrey, Mexico after over a decade on the run. (WMAQ-TV) Politics and elections Following weeks of unsuccessful negotiations, the Centre Party withdraws from the Norwegian government over disagreements over the implementation of three directives in the European Union's fourth energy package, with the Labour Party continuing as a single party minority government. (NRK) Thousands of people gather in Berlin, Germany, to protest against Chancellor-candidate Friedrich Merz and the Christian Democratic Union and Christian Social Union parties after they collaborated with the Alternative for Germany (AfD) party on a non-binding motion to restrict immigration. Members of the Bundestag debate on motions to ban the AfD, alleging that its beliefs and legal practices are unconstitutional. (DW) (Anadolu Ajansi) The Nicaraguan National Assembly votes unanimously to pass several constitutional reforms that grants the government influence over the media, extend the presidential term to 6 years, and makes President Daniel Ortega's wife Rosario Murillo co-President. (Al Jazeera) Science and technology Apollo-type asteroid 2024 YR4 triggers global planetary defence procedures for the first time and rises to the top of the Palermo Technical Impact Hazard Scale after recent observations confirmed it has a 1-in-77 (1.3%) chance of impacting Earth on 22 December 2032. Follow up observations in 2028 will provide a more refined estimation of the likelihood of impact in 2032. (The Guardian)

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RD: Francis Boyle

Article: Francis Boyle (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Geopolitics & Empire
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American human rights lawyer and professor of international law Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:32, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

• Weak support Article is generally good, only one unsourced statement. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 11:38, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

(Attention needed) Constitutional reform in Nicaragua

Article: President of Nicaragua (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Following the approval of a constitutional reform by the National Assembly, Rosario Murillo (pictured) becomes Co-President of Nicaragua alongside her husband Daniel Ortega. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Following the approval of a constitutional reform, Nicaragua becomes a diarchy with Daniel Ortega and Rosario Murillo (couple pictured) as country's Co-Presidents.
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by Alsoriano97 (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Nicaragua's National Assembly has approved a constitutional reform turning the country into an apparent ‘diarchy’ in which the Ortega Murillo couple assumes full powers. Centre Murillo's article because unfortunately there is no article in English about the constitutional reform and it is ITNR. I think her article is not so bad and surely the blurb can be improved. _-_Alsor (talk) 18:36, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

Support A major change in the Nicaraguan politics. ArionStar (talk) 22:06, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support on notability - I think that this event is worthy of posting, and I'd prefer to target the article about the postion instead of Murillo's article - just not sure if there is enough in the article yet. ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 15:34, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Hmm. From what I'm understanding, this is just another power grab by Ortega to consolidate his [and I guess also his wife's] power. The presidency article states that the constitutional amendments passed more or less barred all the top opposition candidates from running, but that's not exactly a massive change seeing as Nicaragua's elections are generally considered to be rigged for Ortega anyway. So, really, I'm not sure if this doesn't just qualify as a dictator further consolidating power. I'm certainly willing to be swayed though. I think an English language article on the constitutional reform would certainly help either way. DarkSide830 (talk) 03:49, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

RD: Edcel Lagman

Article: Edcel Lagman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2025/01/30/2418023/liberal-party-president-edcel-lagman-passes-away-82
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Filipino politician. 65.93.223.182 (talk) 11:41, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) AfD banning debate

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Article: Prohibited political parties in Germany (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Germany's Bundestag debates banning Alternative for Germany. (Post)
News source(s): [7]
Credits:

• Nominated by Chetsford (talk · give credit)

 Chetsford (talk) 19:34, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

• Comment of nominator: I know this is merely a "debate" rather than a "decision", however, the rarity with which actions debates like this have been historically taken in Germany and the significant amount of media coverage it's received, makes it (i.e. the debate, which has happened — not the banning, which has yet to transpire) crest our significance standard, IMO. Chetsford (talk) 19:34, 31 January 2025 (UTC); edited 19:47, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose — Germany banning one of its largest political parties would be ITN-worthy, in my opinion. But that has not happened, and ITN is not for things that could possibly happen, it is for things that have happened. DecafPotato (talk) 19:43, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:CRYSTAL. Wait until the decision is actually made, then nominate. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 20:22, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Only the Federal Constitutional Court can ban a party in Germany. Bundestag can suggest a party for that procedure. Grimes2 (talk) 20:38, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Strong oppose until it is or isn't banned. If it is, this could be a major turning point for far-right politics in Germany - the steady rise of the AFD to now will be brought to perhaps a major downfall or a meteoric rise of right-wing sentiment, depending on how it's handled and how involved parties react. In other words, I do believe it could be blurbworthy depending on what happens. Departure– (talk) 20:37, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Oppose per above, but a ban of the AFD should be blurbed due to the size of the party Ion.want.uu (talk) 20:57, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per everybody. Wait until they actually make the decision to ban the AfD. Starting the process or deciding that the AfD should not be banned is not blurb-worthy. --SpectralIon 21:23, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Sammy Acaylar

Article: Sammy Acaylar (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Philstar Manila Bulletin
Credits:

• Nominated by TNM101 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Hariboneagle927 (talk · give credit) and Jfect22 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Filipino volleyball coach TNM101 (chat) 17:53, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support - Well cited. Looks good to me.BabbaQ (talk) 18:26, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 01:19, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Leif "Loket" Olsson

Article: Leif "Loket" Olsson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [8], [9]
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by BabbaQ (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Death of one of Sweden’s most beloved television presenters. --BabbaQ (talk) 08:46, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support Article has good length and sourcing. Looks good to me. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 11:24, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support Not very exciting for non-Swedish readers, but the article is in decent enough shape. Yakikaki (talk) 20:25, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 00:26, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) Fiji Truth and Reconciliation Commission

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Article: Fiji Truth and Reconciliation Commission (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Fiji has appointed members to its Truth and Reconciliation Commission (Post)
News source(s): Fiji Village RNZ
Credits:

• Nominated by IdiotSavant (talk · give credit)

 IdiotSavant (talk) 07:13, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Not 'in the News'!: No news source provided. Nothing relevant appears when searched 'Fiji' on google. When the title of article itself is searched, still no news reports to establish notability. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 07:51, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Sorry; I'd borked the template. Its been covered in Fiji and NZ, with some coverage in PNG.--IdiotSavant (talk) 09:09, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing it out. Earlier writing 'source=' instead of 'sources=' would result in sources not appearing. But now it is fixed, and either could be used. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 11:50, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Does not meet WP:ITNSIGNIF, not covered by news sources outside Fiji TNM101 (chat) 08:15, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Only covered by regional news sources, plus we generally don't post non-head of state government appointments. Estreyeria (talk) 14:30, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
  • A news items not being covered internationally is not a reason to oppose a nomination. It is absolutely fair to point out this is just a local, non-elected sub-government agency and thus definitely not the type of news we'd post, but if, for some reason, Fiji had an election for its Prime Minister and only Fiji news sources covered it, we'd still post that. — Masem (t) 14:34, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

    If Fiji had an election for its Prime Minister - I expect media across the globe to cover it The AP (talk) 15:11, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

    Would Fijian prime minister Sitiveni Rabuka has promised to reveal those behind the 2000 Fijian coup d'état to the Fiji Truth and Reconciliation Commission be a better blurb? IdiotSavant (talk) 21:49, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Oppose per Masems arguments Ion.want.uu (talk) 16:28, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. This is merely appointing members to begin a process, not any concrete outcomes. Modest Genius ^talk 16:34, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

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RD: Dick Button

Article: Dick Button (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: US figure skater and sports personality. Article has gaps in sourcing. Masem (t) 03:17, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

• Needs Citations: Few important CN tags covering more than just sentences. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 07:46, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose as need many more citations to meet WP:ITNQUALITY. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:29, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Oppose death should ideally drop the "is survived by" stuff if they aren't notable. Means of death, if known, should be added. The next paragraph mentioning the plane crash that killed two figure skaters the day before should also be brought into the same paragraph. Departure– (talk) 20:42, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Marianne Faithfull

Article: Marianne Faithfull (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Tamsyn Acton (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Thriley (talk · give credit) and Strattonsmith (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Singer and actress Tamsyn Acton (talk) 18:29, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Needs work -- Missing a lot of citations, including pretty much the whole filmography. ~Malvoliox (talk | contribs) 22:36, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Until most of Citation Needed tags are fixed. -𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 07:45, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Julius Chan

Article: Julius Chan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [10]
Credits:

• Nominated by Nyanardsan (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Papua New Guinea's prime minister and founding father. Maybe even worth a blurb if expanded more. Nyanardsan (talk) 15:05, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Several uncited sections in total. Needs to be fixed before it qualifies for ITNRD recognition. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 16:14, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose RD for lack of sourcing, Oppose blurb as nothing to suggest he was a major figure via legacy, impact, or significance outside of being a national leader. Not all national leaders are necessarily major figures. Masem (t) 16:38, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose RD on quality per Masem. Conditionally oppose blurb - I’ll be convinced to switch if the article can elaborate on his status as a founding father/major figure during the Bougainville conflict. The Kip ^(contribs) 19:02, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Oppose for lack of sourcing. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 07:41, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Oppose - per all above. Ping me if it changes.BabbaQ (talk) 18:25, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

@BabbaQ Done with sourcing. Would appreciate if there's further expansion still Nyanardsan (talk) 08:17, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support - now well cited and RD ready.BabbaQ (talk) 10:05, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 01:17, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) 2024 YR4

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Article: 2024 YR4 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The newly discovered asteroid 2024 YR4 has a greater than 1% chance of impacting Earth in 2032. (Post)
News source(s): New York Times, Guardian, space.com, IAWN
Credits:

• Nominated by Renerpho (talk · give credit)

 Renerpho (talk) 16:12, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose though it's passing in 2032 may be a story. Objects with trajectories towards earth are discovered are the time, so this one is only novel because it gets above 1% chance for striking earth. But as newly discovered this should be prime DYK material. Masem (t) 16:42, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose For now, great DYK material, but planning 2 months in the future often goes haywire - much less 7 years. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 16:58, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose It's score on the Torino scale will eventually get reassigned to 0 once it's close enough to make better observations/predictions. Scaramouche33 (talk) 17:08, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose for now. If the impact probability rises to the point that governments need to do something about it (e.g. a new DART-style mission), sure that would be worth an ITN blurb. But it's far more likely that further observations show this won't hit Earth, so is a non-event. I understand why this has been nominated and the article is in decent shape. It's also new, so could be nominated for DYK, which is a more suitable venue. Modest Genius ^talk 17:22, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per above. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:46, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose - We don't post news that might happen with 1% likelihood 7 years from now. GenevieveDEon (talk) 19:50, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

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January 29

Portal:Current events/2025 January 29

January 29, 2025 (2025-01-29) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Kivu conflict M23 offensive 2025 Goma offensive M23 rebels solidify control of Goma and are confirmed to be holding captured Congolese troops and allied Wazalendo militiamen at the Stade de l'Unité. They also begin advancing on Bukavu, capital of the South Kivu Province, according to senior Congolese officials and a Rwandan diplomat. (Al Jazeera) (Reuters) In an emergency address to the nation, Congolese president Félix Tshisekedi calls for calm and says "a vigorous and coordinated response against these terrorists and their sponsors is underway" by the armed forces, and also cancels participation in a regional summit with Rwandan president Paul Kagame. (Foreign Policy) (Le Monde) Around 280 Romanian mercenaries fighting alongside the Congolese military in North Kivu surrender to the M23, according to the Rwandan military. They are now being transported to Kigali after being handed over to Rwandan authorities. (BBC News) War against the Islamic State War in Somalia Islamic State insurgency in Puntland Puntland authorities deport around a thousand undocumented Ethiopians from the cities of Bosaso, Galkayo, Qardho, and the state’s capital, Garoowe, as part of an ongoing crackdown on foreigners without legal status, following the discovery of foreign fighters acting as Islamic State recruiters in the Cal Miskaad mountains of the Bari Region. (Hiiraan Online) (Idil News) (Horseed Media) Russian invasion of Ukraine Battle of Chasiv Yar Russian forces capture the city of Chasiv Yar in Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine, after a year of intense fighting for control of the front line city. (The Moscow Times) Gaza war 2025 Gaza war ceasefire U.S. Middle East Envoy Steve Witkoff visits the Gaza Strip and meets with Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu to assure that the ceasefire remains intact. (NPR) Business and economy Expansion of Heathrow Airport UK Chancellor of the Exchequer Rachel Reeves approves the construction of a third runway at Greater London's Heathrow Airport after decades of delays. (Sky News) Disasters and accidents 2025 Prayag Kumbh Mela 2025 Prayag Maha Kumbh Mela crowd crush At least 30 people are killed in a crowd crush at a Hindu festival in Prayagraj, Uttar Pradesh, India. (BBC News) 2025 Light Air Services Beechcraft 1900 crash A Beechcraft 1900D carrying employees of an oil company crashes in Unity, South Sudan, killing 20 of the 21 people onboard, including one Indian and two Chinese nationals. (CNN) (Reuters) 2025 Potomac River mid-air collision A PSA Airlines Bombardier CRJ-700 operating as American Eagle Flight 5342 collides with a U.S. Army Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk over the Potomac River near Reagan National Airport in Washington, D.C., United States, killing at least 28 people between both aircraft and causing a shutdown of flights in and out of the airport. (WUSA-9) (NBC NEWS) Thirteen artisanal miners, including three children, are killed when a tunnel at a gold mine floods after a reservoir spill in Kangaba, Koulikoro, Mali. (Reuters) Five people, four from Norway and one from Switzerland, are killed in two separate avalanches while off-piste skiing in the French Alps. (BBC) A Venezuelan Ministry of Interior, Justice and Peace Cessna Citation II aircraft crashes shortly after takeoff from Generalissimo Francisco de Miranda Air Base in Caracas, Venezuela, killing all three people on board. (Caraota Digital) International relations Burkina Faso, Mali, and Niger formally withdraw from the ECOWAS regional bloc. (BBC) Law and crime First 100 days of the second Donald Trump presidency U.S. President Donald Trump signs the Laken Riley Act into law, the first legislation of Trump's second term. (NBC News) President Trump announces plans to transform the United States detention facility in Cuba's Guantánamo Bay into a holding center for undocumented immigrants, capable of hosting 30,000 people. (Al Jazeera) Police in Stuttgart, Germany, arrest 59 French fans of the Paris Saint-Germain football club for hooliganism before a match against German club VfB Stuttgart. (DW) Former U.S. Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey is sentenced to 11 years in prison, following his conviction on bribery and corruption charges. (BBC News) Politics and elections Second presidency of Donald Trump 2025 United States federal government grant pause The United States Office of Management and Budget rescinds a memo from Monday that would have paused federal financial assistance programs implicated by select executive orders of President Donald Trump, following a temporary block of the order on Tuesday by a federal judge. Following the rescission, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt states that the Trump administration will continue to pursue a freeze of federal funds. (BBC News) Syrian civil war Ahmed al-Sharaa is declared the president of Syria during the transition period, a month after Bashar al-Assad was ousted by rebel forces. (Reuters) Sports 2025 in sumo Mongolian sumōtori Hōshōryū Tomokatsu becomes the 74th yokozuna. (NHK)

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RD: Richard Williamson (bishop)

Article: Richard Williamson (bishop) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Daily Telegraph
Credits:

• Nominated by Ad Orientem (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Schismatic far-right Catholic bishop (formerly SSPX). A handful of CNs but article is not in dreadful shape. Highly controversial figure. Ad Orientem (talk) 01:07, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Needs Work: I though of nominating the article before and fixed a thing myself, but it still has lots of things to make right. Many tags related to citations, unreliability and think some of it could be original research. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 07:53, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Needs work Besides the structure of the article being... amateurish... there is a cleanup tag in his later life and death, an unreliable source and a broken reference. Should be straight forward to cleanup. Scuba 00:02, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

RD: Alexandr Kirsanov

Article: Alexandr Kirsanov (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC News
Credits:

• Nominated by Curbon7 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Fskel (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Figure skater killed in the plane crash. Stub. Curbon7 (talk) 05:41, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Not needed!: The plane crash should not be burdened to take over notability of everyone killed in it. The article is stubby. Oppose on quality. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 07:56, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Inna Volyanskaya

Article: Inna Volyanskaya (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by Curbon7 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Figure skater killed in the plane crash. Stub. Curbon7 (talk) 05:41, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Not needed!: The plane crash should not be burdened to take over notability of everyone killed in it. The article is a stub. Oppose on quality. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 07:57, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Vadim Naumov

Article: Vadim Naumov (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NPR
Credits:

• Nominated by Jessintime (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Champion figure skater was onboard the American Airlines flight with Shishkova (nominated separately below). ~~ Jessintime (talk) 16:50, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Needs more sources Masem (t) 17:37, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Weak oppose: Most citation issues look resolved now, but we still need citations for the section on programs (this is true for both Shishkova and Naumov). If that's fixed, feel free to consider this support. ~Malvoliox (talk | contribs) 21:42, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Evgenia Shishkova

Article: Evgenia Shishkova (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NPR
Credits:

• Nominated by Jessintime (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Champion figure skater was onboard the American Airlines flight with Naumov (nominated separately above). ~~ Jessintime (talk) 16:50, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Needs more sources Masem (t) 17:37, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Weak oppose: Most citation issues look resolved now, but we still need citations for the section on programs (this is true for both Shishkova and Naumov). If that's fixed, feel free to consider this support. ~Malvoliox (talk | contribs) 21:43, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Salwan Momika

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Article: Salwan Momika (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Iraqi anti-Islam activist Salwan Momika involved in the 2023 Quran burnings in Sweden is assassinated in his apartment in Södertälje. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, The Hindu, NYT
Credits:

• Nominated by ExclusiveEditor (talk · give credit)
• Updated by BabbaQ (talk · give credit) and Khaatir (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Atheist anti-Islam activist Assaisnated. Maybe not a blurb, but RD-able for sure. Well cited. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 11:59, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support Blurb - I see no issues. Well cited.BabbaQ (talk) 12:04, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support but I'm surprised the Death section is so short. Yo.dazo (talk) 12:25, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Enough for RD, though I think it would be expanded as new information comes in. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 12:27, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Support per nom. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 13:09, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support RD Article looks good in both length and sourcing. However, oppose blurb on notability. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 13:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Fakescientist8000 and Harizotoh9: You may clarify your positions, as a blurb is added now. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 14:24, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support Ongoing investigation, so more information will be revealed. Harizotoh9 (talk) 13:22, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support Blurb? ("Iraqi anti-Islam activist Salwan Momika involved in the 2023 Quran burnings in Sweden is assassinated in his apartment in Södertälje.") ArionStar (talk) 13:48, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  I've put it in the template, with attribution in edit summary. Thanks, 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 13:56, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  I think blurb is more appropriate. ArionStar (talk) 13:57, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  BTW: please, protect the articles before. ArionStar (talk) 14:04, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  This could be at least considered since the main story here is the death, per WP:ITNRDBLURB. I'll also add that we should definitely blurb if this assassination triggers some widespread or heavy response—protests, political debate, etc. Yo.dazo (talk) 14:08, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

I also think a Blurb is appropriate.BabbaQ (talk) 14:11, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Support Blurb: The manner of his death seems notable enough. He was an activist that gained a lot of media attention. Prodrummer619 (talk) 17:56, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Weak support blurb Not entirely convinced of his higher-level fame, but definitely see the justification for “death as the main story” - a controversial figure assassinated on a livestream. I can be convinced to oppose, though. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:49, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD - It's news but not international news on par with something like a major disaster or something. Harizotoh9 (talk) 19:26, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Here in Brazil the largest newspapers reporting: [11], [12], [13]. ArionStar (talk) 20:01, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Weak support blurb Article in good state. In terms of blurb, I'd support it (although I wouldn't die over it) since he was assassinated during a livestream on TikTok. How often do you hear of an assassination of a (albeit) known controversial figure happening during a TikTok livestream. A quick google search shows international obits/coverage of his death as well. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:09, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD, Strong Oppose Blurb before this becomes another Gloria Moreno. He isn't notable enough to be blurbed. --SpectralIon 20:18, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Well, let's be fair. As I mention above, the notability isn't of the person, but of the assassination itself. Yo.dazo (talk) 20:46, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  "Another Gloria Moreno" 😂 ArionStar (talk) 20:54, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  I'm pretty new to ITN, but I don't think "Obscure Swedish activist around 90% of readers have never heard about dies by assassination while live streaming" would be any more blurbable than "Obscure Swedish activist around 90% of readers have never heard about dies by natural causes". SpectralIon 01:51, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

  To be fair, calling him obscure is more on you than actual facts. His death has generated attention from aol all around the world.BabbaQ (talk) 12:24, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

  Quran burnings in Scandinavia are pretty well known, but multiple activists performed them. Momika might have been the most important but it didn't lend him much personal fame. His death has given him attention, but he was grouped with other Quran burners before his death, and I find the proposal that it should be blurbed because he died while livestreaming instead of from other causes a bit absurd.

  (Also you're Swedish I think you might be overestimating international knowledge of him before his death a bit, no offense) SpectralIon 19:09, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

  Quran damaging in Europe, especially Sweden, has widely been reported in the world. However I am not sure about this man's specific case. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 12:28, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support RD, Oppose Blurb per SpectralIon. Yakikaki (talk) 22:23, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Posted RD. BorgQueen (talk) 01:52, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

• Murder of Salwan Momika has been created with much more relevant information. Very likely Blurb worthy. ExclusiveEditor BabbaQ (talk) 10:15, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

I would definitely support a blurb for this article.BabbaQ (talk) 10:15, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

I oppose blurring that article. It's a short article with a bloat from way too much in the reactions section. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:36, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support Blurb His quran burnings led to blasphemy laws in Denmark and protests from muslims the world over. Has been in the news in France for years and even more so now. He once said that his atheism and activism made him a lonely man, hope he later realised that many thought highly of him. His legacy will live on. Varoon2542 (talk) 16:39, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

  Support blurb The death article is good enough. ArionStar (talk) 23:10, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

  Didn't you already support blurb? SpectralIon 02:44, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

  As RD, yes. I just wrote the blurb but not expressed the explicit support. ArionStar (talk) 04:15, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

  Alright. SpectralIon 19:20, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

  Ready? ArionStar (talk) 19:36, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

  Probably needs more attention when there are only 9 supports/opposes to the blurb and 3 of them are opposing. It’s WP:NOTAVOTE but I haven’t seen a blurb posted with this few when it isn’t unanimous. SpectralIon 23:13, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

  At least I think his murder has been given international attention on a level that warrants a blurb. And yes its not a vote it is a discussion and the consensus so far is towards this being blurb worthy.BabbaQ (talk) 19:35, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

  The reporting on his murder was not the main focus of news in any country outside of Sweden itself on January 29th and 30th as far as I can tell. Also, I miscounted, there are 4 people opposing the blurb and 7 supporting. Even with my lack of experience, I can be pretty certain that 7-4 with both sides about equally articulated, still heavily disagreeing, and 2 supports being weak is not a consensus, and the discussion shouldn't end already. SpectralIon 19:46, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

  Repeating: breaking news in Brazil, an unrelated country. ArionStar (talk) 17:02, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  It seems to be far overshadowed by Lula's response to Trump's tariffs on those days. I know it's been reported internationally, but I wouldn't say it's "international attention on a level that warrants a blurb". SpectralIon 19:23, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  Well, 3 of the 4 opposes, including your own, are based on him not being notable enough. But the blurb has been proposed on the basis of "death as the main story", rather than notability. It doesn't have to be the main focus of the news either. Support blurb in full agreement with those arguments presented above in support. Effy Midwinter (talk) 19:55, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb the murder has not sparked any major protests nor had enough international impact to justify a blurb. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 21:45, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

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(Posted) American Airlines Flight 5342 mid-air collision

Article: 2025 Potomac River mid-air collision (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ American Airlines Flight 5342 crashes on approach over the Potomac River, Virginia, United States, killing an unknown number of passengers. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ American Eagle Flight 5342 collides with a helicopter over the Potomac River, Virginia, United States, killing an unknown number of passengers on both aircraft.
News source(s): CNN, Reuters, BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Rockstone35 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Unknown number of casualties, but it certainly appears that this will be a mass fatality incident, sadly. The first commercial plane crash on US soil since 2009. Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 03:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Wait for details regarding victims/survivors/circumstances to become more clear, and for the article to update as such. An utterly horrifying day for my home - I was in the vicinity of DCA just a few hours ago. The Kip ^(contribs) 03:21, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Added altblurb to clarify it was a collision. The Kip ^(contribs) 03:24, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

It's awful to hear about this. Per the video, I doubt there will be many survivors.

Side note: Rockstone, you beat me to ITN by a mere three minutes. Well done. JayCubby 03:25, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support. Plane crashes involving 2 aircraft normally gain international coverage. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 03:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Suppport 70 people on the jet, doesn't look like there will be many survivors. First major plane crash in the US in decades. JayCubby 03:35, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  I would of course support waiting an hour or three, until casualty figures come in JayCubby 03:40, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support. Even if everybody involved is somehow rescued, this is notable enough. The actual text of the blurb will need to be up-to-date when this goes in, of course. Jokullmusic 03:36, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Wait for more details as per above. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 03:36, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

I appreciate to air on the side of caution, but new details are coming in every few minutes. This is being covered by global networks. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 03:39, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Strongly Support: I am speechless, possibly the first mass casualty air crash in the United States since 2009.--MaximumMangoCloset (talk) 03:39, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support --Bedivere (talk) 03:41, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support: This is obviously going to be a very notable incident regardless of the number of casualties. Tofusaurus (talk) 03:42, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
•  Comment: Do we want the CCTV or the Flickr photo for the blurb image?JayCubby 03:44, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  @JayCubby: I'd say use the Flickr image. The CCTV video isn't quite clear especially from a distance, and as far as I'm aware, Wikipedia never puts videos or animated GIFs on the main page. — AP 499D25 (talk) 04:06, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  I'm seeing a lack of copyright information on File:PSA Airlines flight 5342 crash.webm. Is it kocher? Though it seems to be in poor taste to show a video that actually shows the collision. Do we have rules about that? Nfitz (talk) Nfitz (talk) 04:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Re 1, CCTV doesn't have human authorship and is therefore PD. It's past Shabbos, so even if it weren't kosher it doesn't so much matter. Re 2, it's not so graphic that Wikipedia:NOTCENSORED and the Main Page would need to be applied. JayCubby 04:19, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Whether a TV signal is closed-circuit or not shouldn't have any bearing on copyright. If you are referring to an automated surveillance camera ... I'd have thought that would have been whose and where was it that might define that. For example, in some places, government can't hold copyright - but in others they strictly enforce their copyright. But companies and governments aren't human, and they can hold copyright, with their publications not being public domain. Still, it seem moot now - but I'm fascinated by the copyright question that's raised from it. Nfitz (talk) 07:59, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  See Threshold_of_originality#Pre-positioned_recording_devices. CCTV and other similar devices' footage is ineligible for copyright in the US and in virtually all countries. The closest it comes is whether there is judgement in how it's placed, but even that's iffy because it's not placed to capture anything specific but just a specific area. For the record, Commons also accepts this as public domain per commons:Template:PD-automated. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 08:03, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Nonsense, videos and gifs are often shown, but the CCTV quality is too poor. Stephen 04:20, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Stephen, I found a better-res file, re-uploaded. Thoughts? JayCubby 04:42, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Support - As per above. TheHuman630 (talk) 03:45, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Support altblurb 2. Mid-air collisions involving commercial aircraft are rare and notable. -insert valid name here- (talk) 03:47, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

I'd say wait, knowing damn well all onboard died here. Write that down as a support vote once the obvious is confirmed. I definitely support using the CCTV footage in the blurb - Wikipedia is not censored and a short video showing the event going down is much more relevant than an image of the plane involved. Departure– (talk) 03:48, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

It's admittedly grainy (but not as bad as when the screen of a monitor is filmed by someone with Parkinson's), but does the job. JayCubby 03:52, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Comment Bodies are veing pulled from the river. [14] - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 03:51, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Awful graphic. Someone strike out my bolded wait vote and bold my support above. What a House member from Kansas has to do with this to be commenting here I don't know. Departure– (talk) 03:53, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Departure–, the plane originated from Wichita. JayCubby 03:55, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Wait for data on actual number of survivors and deaths to emerge, and then add. — AP 499D25 (talk) 04:06, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  (Bit surprised I didn't edit conflict with the votes below when I published this.) Anyway, it looks like the consensus here is generally in favour of adding it now rather than waiting, so if I were to pick a blurb, I'd go with the second one. The first blurb does not take into account that two aircraft are directly involved and not one. It is a mid-air collision after all and not a crash. — AP 499D25 (talk) 04:11, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Support - Just wow SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 04:03, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Support - although maybe wait a little bit until we get more info on deaths and such. This is the first major aviation incident in the US in 16 years, meaning that this accident will likely be extremely notable in the future. Definitely warrants being on ITN. interstatefive  04:06, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Mid-air collision ... it's not been confirmed it's an accident. And the video linked above of the collision doesn't look like an accident - I don't see how the helicopter didn't see that plane coming. How do you fly into the side of well lit plane? Nfitz (talk) 04:19, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Posted Prayers... -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:11, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Thanks AO. This'll be the fastest I've seen an ITN get posted. JayCubby 04:13, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Normally I'd not post something so quickly, but this one is a no brainer. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:16, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Ad Orientem CBS News has confirmed 18 bodies have been recovered, so if you'd like to replace the slightly-awkward "unknown number of people bit," there's a number. The Kip ^(contribs) 05:18, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  @The Kip That is not (as of this comment) reflected in the article. I don't think the blurb should be getting ahead of the article. -Ad Orientem (talk) 05:32, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Ad Orientem 2025 Potomac River mid-air collision#Casualties The Kip ^(contribs) 05:34, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  @The Kip I'm not comfortable posting a death number until an official source confirms it or we have multiple high quality sources all reporting the same thing. I think we need to tread carefully on this. The info box on the article is still not reporting definite fatalities. -Ad Orientem (talk) 05:47, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  I've now updated the blurb to reflect the current info box number. -Ad Orientem (talk) 05:51, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Ad Orientem Shouldn't it be 'people' instead of 'persons'? TNM101 (chat) 05:56, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Disagree it was a 'no brainer'. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 10:50, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Ad Orientem:Is there a reason that the Syrian president is listed above this one when this is more recent? –DMartin 02:06, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Dmartin969: This was posted earlier, on 30 Jan, other one was posted later on 31 Jan. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 10:20, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

• Comment How are we determining that anyone was killed at all? We know passenger and crew numbers but not who is deceased, injured, survived etc. That just seems a bit premature. wizzito | say hello! 04:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  WaPo said bodies were being pulled from the water. I also conducted original research, and the crash doesn't look very survivable. JayCubby 04:20, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  I am aware about those reports. Jay Cubby, please note our policies on original research. wizzito | say hello! 04:21, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Washington Post reported that dead bodies have been pulled from the river; others have reported that there have been no attempts to rescue anyone from the helicopter. Jokullmusic 04:21, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Moot now, as CNN reports casualties. https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/plane-crash-dca-potomac-washington-dc-01-29-25#cm6iu5gue000i3b6matt7wqeo wizzito | say hello! 04:41, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support, but change to altblurb since it was clearly a mid air collision (video proof). Undecided on statement about casualties unknown... it's almost certain there are some, because a plane breaking up in mid air and falling into a river is just.. not something that's likely to be survived from. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 04:20, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  True, but in a sensitive situation like this, it is best to wait for very explicit RS. wizzito | say hello! 04:21, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Hence why I'm undecided. I would be fine with a blurb that simply states that the crash occurred and specifies that it was a mid-air collision. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 04:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Berchanhimez: FYI, the alt blurb is already what's been used in the ITN publication. — AP 499D25 (talk) 04:46, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Wait until there's more clarity over the death toll, and perhaps the intentions of the helicopter pilot. Alt blurb - but should mention that it was a military transport helicopter. Nfitz (talk) 04:24, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

At the press conference, 4 hours later, they couldn't identify any survivors. And it's been reported that helicopter was on a training flight - so that might explain what the helicopter pilot was doing. (at the same time, this seemed to have been posted too fast). Nfitz (talk) 08:05, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Pull and Wait There are usually so many opposes about having the clarity on the death toll in other noms, this shouldn't be any different. If we're not going to pull this, at least remove the 'unknown number of people' part from the blurb until we have more info TNM101 (chat) 04:54, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  I don't think it'll be long before we get a RS on actual number of casualties though. — AP 499D25 (talk) 05:01, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

It was pre-maturely posted for sure, but at this point is doesn't matter. There arenot survivors, so 63 deaths is notable neough.Sportsnut24 (talk) 17:06, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Comment There is never a need to rush an ITN blurb to post when there is key information missing - we are not a news ticker. This should not have been posted as soon as it was until we had an idea of the number of fatalities. Obviously once that is known, then there's not an issue with it, so it doesn't make sense to pull when it will be put back, but please let us not be rushing on posting events without the normal thoroughness we expect for details of other blurbs. --Masem (t) 05:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Would this be ITN if there were no deaths? I would still think so - a mid-air collision of two aircraft (whether fixed wing or otherwise) is so rare nowadays that it happening is the newsworthy event. I agree that it was not necessary to include "unknown casualties" at the time of posting. But the fatalities could be updated as information comes in, like with any other ITN blurb. I don't see why waiting to confirm someone died was necessary when this would've been (and is) newsworthy on its own for being such a rare occurrence, regardless of the deaths. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 07:30, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Because ITN is about featuring quality articles that happen to be in the news, not to report news as it happens. Unless there was already an established article, it takes some reasonable time for a quality article to be built up, and that includes waiting for the bulk of the details from actual news reports to roll in and have a substantial how-and-why about the event, during which the article would be undergoing a lot of editing so its near impossible to judge quality. There's no way in the hour this was posted that enough details were known to have a stable, quality article. At this time (now about 12 hrs out), there's more than enough that we have a reasonably good article that while likely still will have high rates of editing, has all the core details that would be expected to showcase it as a quality article and would be more resilient to new edits. — Masem (t) 13:08, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Comment Posted after less than an hour and with most key information missing? This isn’t a news ticker and there is no rush to post something just because it’s happened in the US. - SchroCat (talk) 05:22, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  What was posted is not liable to be wrong, and it's a really significant event. The rush is not because it's American, but because it's a plane crash that may very well have killed 75. JayCubby 05:27, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  But, key is that WP nor ITN is a newspaper. ITN is here to feature quality articles that are in the news. Aircrashes like this are the type of article that routine has a high quality product after some time as details filter in, so its common to post them, but this was posted before any confirmed number of deaths or survivors, a key data point, was known, so for all purposes, the article was not yet at the quality we'd expect. In under 12 hrs from the event, I would expect those to have settled into place, and then it would make sense to have judged the quality of the article and post then. Posting without that key info was a bad decision, though because we know the details will be added, not a reason to pull at this point. Just something to not repeat. Masem (t) 05:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  (edit conflict) Nonsense. I’ve seen bigger disasters and events happen in places like Africa and not passed at ITN. The geography is a damned clear metric when posting way too quickly on this. As to ‘not liable to be wrong’: that’s phooey. It’s incomplete which with anywhere else in the world would receive calls to wait before posting. ITN IS NOT A NEWS TICKER. - SchroCat (talk) 05:35, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Is it the geography that determines how quickly it's promoted, the availability of sources, or the relative interest of editors? I do think it's hastier than most, but not to the point of being faulty.

  Though I think we may have posted it before it made its way to the NYT's top spot. We're not a news ticker, we're faster than one. JayCubby 05:39, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Faster than a news ticker? That’s such a ridiculous boast: do you have any idea what an encyclopaedia is? It’s about as far away from a news ticker as you can imagine. - SchroCat (talk) 05:44, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Would do you better to read the fundamental WP:NOTNEWS policy. Gotitbro (talk) 10:10, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  @SchroCat: This isn't ITN-worthy just because people died. It's also ITN-worthy as a mid-air collision between two aircraft - which is exceedingly rare. Even if by some miracle everyone survived, it would still be ITN-worthy. For clarity, I would've supported posting as soon as the article on the event was minimally complete (i.e. what happened and what is known at the time). There is no need to wait for the article to be complete, because it never will be. Arbitrary "gates" such as "wait for confirmation someone died" may be reasonable for an event that would not otherwise be ITN-worthy. But for an event like this that is ITN-worthy regardless of deaths, there is no use waiting. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 07:33, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Where did I mention "just because people died"? There is significant information missing and this has been fast-posted (less than an hour). I get it's only newsworthy because it happened in the US, but this was posted too quickly when not enough details were known. As to mid-air collisions being "extremely rare", they're not all that rare, although they may be uncommon. Just noting that neither the 2024 Lumut mid-air collision or 2023 Alaska mid-air collision (to take two recent examples) made the front page. - SchroCat (talk) 07:37, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  How "complete" must the article be? What "details" must be known before it can be posted? Was the article actually incomplete? And they're uncommon when involving airliners, which is the comparison to be made here. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 07:57, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Can be blurb be changed to "collides with a military helicopter...near Washington DC"? The accident did not occur in DC, but nearby, and want to emphasize that it was a military helicopter. Natg 19 (talk) 06:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  The posted version said four people had been rescued. That's the problem with going off half-cocked on an overly rushed promotion. We're not a news ticker - we can never hope to be - which means we don't have the same levels of fact checking and confirmation that they do, which is why it's always best to wait more than an hour for both the situation and the article to develop. Half-baked articles carrying major errors don't make us look good in the eyes of the world. - SchroCat (talk) 08:50, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

  The collision occurred over Washington DC, @Natg 19. According to Geography of Washington, D.C. (and King Charles I in the 1630s), the boundary between D.C. and Virginia is such that the entire river is part of Washington DC, and it only becomes Virginia at the shoreline. Nfitz (talk) 08:30, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Comment Absurd rush to post (another phenomenon of Wikipedians trying to be the first which does not an encyclopedia make), second behind Queen Elizabeth's death I suppose though atleast that article was an FA rather than a newly minted one with half the info. And WP:TROUTing Ad Orientem especially when so many editors cautioned waiting despite voicing support on notability. Gotitbro (talk) 09:11, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  The rush was really unneeded. 'Unknown' should never have went to the Main Page. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 09:18, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Only 2 editors stayed their wait. The consensus was to post it right then. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:23, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Do not need to explicitly say stay, most comments then and now clearly imply uncertainty about facts. Admin judgment would be to not rush a Main Page posting after less than an hour of discussion, ITN is no exception. Gotitbro (talk) 15:54, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Comment 56 minutes between time of nomination and time of posting, for anyone keeping track. Bit fast, in my opinion. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 11:23, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Sigh Why do we do this over and over again? We know it's going to be posted, there's no rush, we are not a news ticker. Incidentally, the version that was posted onto the main page contained the phrase "At least four survivors were reported to have been recovered from the water and taken to local hospitals" which doesn't actually appear to be sourced as far as I can see. Black Kite (talk) 11:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Comment: @Aaron Liu: Combined edits of 3 editors who said Wait= 97k, Combined edits of (9+1) editors who said Support= 23.5k (excluding only Knowledgekid87). In other words, those were bunch of novice editors, decision should be made in terms of consensus based on reason and guidelines, than just counting number of votes. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 12:36, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
  • To add, none of the support !votes at the time of posting expressed any evaluation of the quality of the article, only "omg this is a big air accident". Quality review is essential requirement for ITN items and that clearly wasn't taken into account in posting. — Masem (t) 13:02, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
  • That means the consensus was flawed, not that there wasn't a consensus. If I was in this position as a "wait" !vote, I would add a reply questioning the article quality. Here, it seems like the !voters just dropped their doubts on the consensus. I understand that Ad Orientem probably should've IAR'd, though. Aaron Liu (talk) 13:14, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
    • There is no way a consensus can be reached in an hour. Otherwise, that means consensus gets determine by who happened to show up first. Even the recent SNOW closures took several hours before closed that way. — Masem (t) 13:50, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Who are you to judge consensus based on edit count alone? """Novices'"""" (several thousand edits and years of experience still makes you a newbie somehow?) arguments should be treated less just because the editors who said wait theoretically have a larger edit count combined (which btw is inflated; most of them have a few thousand edits)? That type of WP:Editcountitis behavior should not be used to dismiss consensus just because you don't like the result. — Knightoftheswords 14:04, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  I am no one. A novice pretty much like you. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 14:11, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Novices, with regards to ITN at least. Many names I saw frequently were missing, but few I never saw were not. No one came up with points that are raised now, after it was posted. Few sure were quite experienced, but not exactly in ITN. Few were newbies, altogether the 'consensus' seemed not quite thoroughly thought of. Also I feel quite unconscious bystander effect was involved. Keep cool, thanks -𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 14:22, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Experience is mostly irrelevant. I've seen excellent rationales from newbie editors and crappy ones from veterans. Admittedly, new editors are less likely to grasp the fact that ITN isn't a 24/7 news ticker, which some did here, but otherwise I don't see the relevance. Black Kite (talk) 15:49, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Edit count and experience doesn't matter when it comes to consensus forming. As long as said editor has a legitimate reasoning for their vote then it should count as part of the decision-making process. Rager7 (talk) 02:11, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

• Comment Considering everyone's comments above, I cannot help but wonder why we couldn't have a sort of 'minimum time limit' for posting ITN's. We could avoid so many of these incidents if there was one. Instead of just citing WP:NOTNEWS, we could just have a simple criterion on WP:ITN/A that blurbs should only be posted after a certain time, maybe two hours or so, even after there is consensus present. This would have two advantages IMO, i) We would not have these discussions again and ii) There would probably be sufficient info about the event mentioned in the article for an accurate blurb. I know this might be controversial, but we need to find a way to end these unproductive debates that occur when admins post early (Ad Orientem, no offense intended) . TNM101 (chat) 12:59, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Apart from the very rare occasion when there's clearly zero article issues and the topic is obviously going to be posted (i.e. death of Queen Elizabeth II, all information was known, article was an FA) then I suggest we should be waiting at least long enough for the actual bloody facts to be clear before posting. As I said above, this one was posted with a sentence that suggests there were survivors; whilst I doubt if anyone related to the victims was checking Wikipedia as their first news source on the accident, I wonder how many people saw that? Black Kite (talk) 15:49, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  I assumed from the ITN posting that there were many a survivors and surprised to see an ITN update so fast decided to check the discussion, only then I learned that no one was likely to survive (none did). Posting with half the info definitely did mislead Main Page viewers in that period. Unacceptable as an encyclopedia. Gotitbro (talk) 16:01, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Comment: I think most of the comments now are relevant to posting of this, and not the ITN. This could be done on ITN's talk page. Even for the fact, this could be closed. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 16:04, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

I'll start a new topic on the talk page TNM101 (chat) 16:43, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

I started a new topic on the talk page, please direct your comments there TNM101 (chat) 17:48, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Comment. I'm commenting here instead of making a separate nomination at this point, but both Vadim Naumov and Evgenia Shishkova were onboard the flight and are presumed deceased. I didn't know if they should be listed in the RD section or not given the are already mentioned in the crash article. ~~ Jessintime (talk) 16:23, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Add noms about them separate. Definitely.BabbaQ (talk) 16:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

That plane that crashed several years ago with a major football team on it, we included one or two names from it in the crash blurb. I think we can work those two names in. — Masem (t) 17:34, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Though I just checked the two bios and both are missing sources, so this likely will not happen soon. — Masem (t) 17:38, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Mavai Senathirajah

Article: Mavai Senathirajah (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Daily Mirror Sri Lanka
Credits:

• Nominated by Abishe (talk · give credit)
• Updated by HongXiuquan73 (talk · give credit) and Abishe (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: prominent Tamil politician in Sri Lanka and was a key political figure who advocated for separatist Tamil Eelam. Abishe (talk) 02:40, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Weak Support: The article is well cited, but could be expanded a bit more. Thanks, 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 09:14, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Additionally, the article doesn't discuss his work when holding the positions. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 09:16, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) IShowSpeed honored as Mayor of Lima

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Article: IShowSpeed (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ IShowSpeed is declared honorary Mayor of Lima for an hour and receives the Ambassador of Lima Award during the city's 490th anniversary celebrations, with a massive crowd chanting his signature "SIUU". (Post)
News source(s): Complex, Times of India
Credits:

• Nominated by sheagolddigger (talk · give credit)

Article updated

 sheagolddigger (talk) 15:19, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Guy visits a city and is given an award. This doesn't seem to be on the level of other stories. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:48, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

  did you not see "declared honorary Mayor of Lima for an hour" by an streamer/youtuber? ye Sheagolddigger (talk) 15:50, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - Absurd, irrelevant trivia. GenevieveDEon (talk) 15:49, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Strong oppose and SNOW close per all above. We don't post any mayoral election on ITN or even Current Events I don't think, even for capital cities and other large and important communities. Being the honorary mayor for one hour doesn't seem to be any more important. Departure– (talk) 15:53, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose and close little more to add. _-_Alsor (talk) 16:10, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

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(Posted) 2025 Light Air Services Beechcraft 1900 crash

Article: 2025 Light Air Services Beechcraft 1900 crash (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A plane crash (aircraft pictured) in Unity state, South Sudan, kills 20 of the 21 occupants onboard. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)

 ArionStar (talk) 15:19, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Far too stubby at the moment. Estreyeria (talk) 15:33, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

  What about now? Bloxzge 025 (talk) 19:26, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose as a stub. The Kip ^(contribs) 15:37, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

  Better now. ArionStar (talk) 18:35, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

  It's not quite a stub anymore but it's still nowhere near ITN length. The Kip ^(contribs) 19:06, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

  What about now? Bloxzge 025 (talk) 19:25, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

  Not to sound callous but I still just don’t see the special significance beyond the # of deaths. Same thing with the Learjet crash. The Kip ^(contribs) 15:02, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

  But the consensus is formed now. ArionStar (talk) 20:42, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

  A consensus I’ll remain in opposition to. Not gonna flip my vote just because the winds are blowing in the opposite direction. The Kip ^(contribs) 23:55, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

  No… no! I said it's ready to go due the consensus. ArionStar (talk) 01:21, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Oppose on quality. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 21:36, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Sufficient enough now? ArionStar (talk) 23:11, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose tragic but of no consequence. Stephen 02:33, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality!: But there is surely a possibility that it could be improved at be posted. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 09:08, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  I made it better and added sources. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 17:34, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Support The quality is good enough now & the # of deaths makes this notable. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 06:27, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

• Support Article quality has improved and as per Blaylockjam10 no. of deaths is significant enough for ITN TNM101 (chat) 12:58, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Support. Second deadliest crash this year. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 13:30, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Support: per above. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 14:04, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Support Notability and quality satisfied. Very sad. Bremps... 17:40, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Support per above, reported in al Jazeera, Daily Post Nigeria, Reuters, BBC, CNN etc., clearly notable Kowal2701 (talk) 20:53, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

@Stephen: it's obviously ready now. ArionStar (talk) 00:30, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Stephen participated in this discussion (!voted Oppose above) so another administrator is needed to determine consensus and post. Natg 19 (talk) 02:45, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 11:09, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) ECOWAS

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Article: ECOWAS (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Burkina Faso, Mali, and Niger formally exit the West African regional bloc ECOWAS (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The three members of the Alliance of Sahel States, Burkina Faso, Mali, and Niger, formally exit ECOWAS
News source(s): [15]
Credits:

• Nominated by Chipmunkdavis (talk · give credit)

Article updated

 CMD (talk) 10:11, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

• Comment Note that these 3 member states had already been suspended from ECOWAS for nearly a year prior to leaving, and thus the internal political situation of the organization has effectively not changed except on paper. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 11:14, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
• Duplicate I nominated this a year ago and it was posted then. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:19, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

support it is formal now. shouldnt have been on announcement. Also togo/benin (?) was to join them as an observer.Sportsnut24 (talk) 12:43, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

The countries leaving said that it was effective immediately. It's not clear that this latest formality has any practical effect as the nom's source says "The remaining member states were called upon to continue to grant citizens from the three countries the privileges of membership, including the free movement of people and goods." Andrew🐉(talk) 15:35, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Comment: If this is posted, ECOWAS should be expanded to Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) as it was when previously posted. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 14:04, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Oppose - These states have not been in ECOWAS for over a year, and we have posted this blurb two times already PrecariousWorlds (talk) 14:09, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per Andrew Davidson. We don't need to duplicate events like these. Kind of similar to how we don't post both a head of state getting elected and then also them getting inaugurated ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 14:14, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

  Brexit was posted at least 3 separate times. CMD (talk) 15:57, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support alt 1. This is much more significant than an election, which affects one country, where it’s pretty much guaranteed the winner will be inaugurated. Will have massive ramifications for the region, as countries can now more easily switch neo-colonial partner from France to Russia

Kowal2701 (talk) 17:17, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose as duplicate. We already posted this story back in February. Today's event is a legal formality, the practical effects were already in place. Modest Genius ^talk 19:09, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose as duplicate per Andrew Davidson. Natg 19 (talk) 19:13, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose as duplicate per Andrew Davidson and others. Maybe SNOW close? Khuft (talk) 19:48, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

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(Posted) Hōshōryū Tomokatsu

Article: Hōshōryū Tomokatsu (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In sumo, Hōshōryū (pictured) becomes the 74th yokozuna. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Hōshōryū (pictured) becomes sumo's 74th yokozuna.
News source(s): Kyodo News, Japan Times, AFP
Credits:

• Nominated by JRHorse (talk · give credit)
• Created by FourTildes (talk · give credit)
• Updated by OtharLuin (talk · give credit), Pawnkingthree (talk · give credit), ArguaBILL (talk · give credit) and Kaiketsu (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Nomination per WP:ITN/R. Blurb uses the single name Hōshōryū, which is how sumo wrestlers are usually referred to (by their shikona, or ring name). JRHorse (talk) 03:52, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support ITNR and I see no quality issues in the article (in fact looks to be high quality from the start). --Masem (t) 04:06, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Support ITNR and the article is of sufficient quality. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:53, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support The article is fine, and I can't remember if sumo was ever ITN, a nice cause for a change.Trepang2 (talk) 05:20, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

  Sumo is indeed hardly ever mentioned in ITN, partly because many users consider that only promotions to the rank of yokozuna are valid. We tried to feature Takerufuji last March after his historic title, but the nomination failed miserably... - OtharLuin (talk) 07:12, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support per all above. ITNR and article is good quality. The Kip ^(contribs) 07:51, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support!: per above, but the yokozuna section seems to be undersourced, albeit its an unbolded link. Why is altblurb2 suggesting sumo's 74th yokozuna? Are there other sports with champion called so? --𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 08:57, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

  There have only been that many wrestlers in sumo that have done good enough to reach the top rank, at least for as long as records have been kept. Professional sumo divisions and Makuuchi explain it more. The higher one goes, the more difficult the promotion requirements become. JRHorse (talk) 12:38, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 10:45, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

@Stephen: Can you add {{transl}} or just italize yokozuna as it is a not a common english per MOS:JAPAN. Thanks Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 11:16, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Done, thanks. Stephen 11:34, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Post-posting note Not sure why for this and Terunofuji's ITN promotion entries they include the full shikona/ring name when none of the news sources, nor even the official online banzuke [16] show it (unless you click through to a full bio). Would a piped link or redirect of solely the main part of the shikona not suffice? Omnifalcon (talk) 22:56, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Because full name, not shikona, is used for official and ceremonial occasions, such as promotion. Stephen 00:34, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Do you have a source for this? The 3 news sources used in this nomination only use the name Hoshoryu and not his surname. Natg 19 (talk) 00:38, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

2025 Prayag Kumbh Mela crowd crush

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Article: 2025 Prayag Maha Kumbh Mela crowd crush (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A stampede during the Prayag Kumbh Mela (pictured) in Prayagraj, Uttar Pradesh, India, kills at least 30 people and injures more than 60 others. (Post)
Alternative blurb II: ​ A crowd crush during the Prayag Kumbh Mela (pictured) in Prayagraj, Uttar Pradesh, India, kills at least 30 people and injures more than 60 others.
News source(s): BBC,The Guardian,Al Jazeera, CNN Independent,NYTimes
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Spworld2 (talk · give credit)

 ArionStar (talk) 03:20, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

• For one, there is yet no confirmed deaths per the BBC running article. Second, given that there have been at least 6 of these events that have a had a crowd crush, that it seems like any single one is not more notable than the others. And with how little the other crowd crush articles contain (and seemingly failing NEVENT), it feels that this does not need to be a separate article from the article Prayag Kumbh Mela where there is a section on stampedes/crowd crush that would seem to be a better place to summarize that these events happen, that unfortunately people have died, but seems like is a given outcome with that many people in one place that it will happen. But that's all barring actually having a firm number of people injured or killed. Masem (t) 03:45, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
• Wait Article is nowhere near ready for the front page, and among other details, the death toll is mostly unknown at this point. The Kip ^(contribs) 04:58, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

We can wait until we have stronger words than "feared" for these tolls. Departure– (talk) 05:07, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

• Wait! For more reliable data, will also give article the time to expand and cover aftermath and initial investigatory reports/ analysis. -𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 09:05, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
• Unclear if it's a crowd crush or a stampede; see Talk:2025 Prayag Maha Kumbh Mela crowd crush#Stampede?—Bagumba (talk) 10:50, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

  What's the difference? ArionStar (talk) 02:40, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  See human stampede and crowd crush. —Bagumba (talk) 18:27, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Wait until more information is published, per all above. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 11:23, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose The BBC explains Why crowd crushes are so common in India, "Crowd crushes are tragically frequent in India, often leading to loss of lives. Just this month, six people died in a crush at one of India's wealthiest temples in town of Tirupati in southern Andhra Pradesh state. Last year, over 120 people were killed in Uttar Pradesh’s Hathras district during a religious gathering, highlighting recurring safety lapses. According to government data, 47 crushes happened in India in 2021 and 2022 ..." So an event of this sort seems to happen every two weeks on average and WP:NEWSEVENT applies per Masem above. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:49, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

  Hmm... But may be this is considerable considering we posted the one which happened in 2013 Maha Kumbh Mela too. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 11:55, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

  The article is in good shape now. ArionStar (talk) 02:38, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support - Looks good now. Well cited.BabbaQ (talk) 12:06, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support - We have multiple news sites (BBC, Guardian and local ones) confirming causalities running over 30. Given the chaos, done think clarity on causalities will emerge soon. --Natrajdr (talk) 13:42, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose due to inconsistent page title of stampede and contradictory lead sentence with crowd crush.—Bagumba (talk) 18:25, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

  Title has since been moved to crowd crush.—Bagumba (talk) 05:50, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

• Note: Article changed to new title after page rename. Altblurb II is the current factually accepted version. 𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 07:38, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Oppose - Crowd crushes happen a lot more than you think. Not notable, crowd crushes are especially common in India. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 05:15, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

If we think that way, most of the disasters that occur in the world are common in India, so we won't post any of them… ArionStar (talk) 15:43, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) Ahmed al-Sharaa

Article: Ahmed al-Sharaa (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Ahmed al-Sharaa (pictured) is appointed as president of Syria of the transitional government, succeeding Bashar al-Assad. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian, Reuters, Al Jazeera.
Credits:

• Nominated by Ghazi Malik (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Ghazi Malik (talk) 20:08, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support - This very notable since Syria’s only changed presidents three times in the past 54 years. --Plumber (talk) 23:49, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Support on notability - First president outside of the Assad regime in decades. Departure– (talk) 23:53, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Support ITN/R. There is one CN tag on al-Sharaa's article though, but I don't see that being an issue that would prevent it being posted. Aydoh8^[contribs] 00:04, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Support First president since the fall of Assad regime. HurricaneEdgar 00:09, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Support ITN/R. Good article. ArionStar (talk) 02:42, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

• Comment: If he will also become the of a not so-transitional government, and if that is going to happen soon, then we may that directly instead. -𝓔xclusive𝓔ditor _{Ping Me🔔} 09:05, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support ITN/R, also notable for being the first non-Assad leader of Syria in decades and as a very important development in Middle Eastern politics. Yo.dazo (talk) 09:13, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support and marking as ready Article is ITN/R, and the quality is in good condition. Certainly qualifies for ITN. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 11:25, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Support Definitely a notable event for Syria, though I think the dissolution of HTS should be mentioned as well. Can I has Cheezburger? (talk) 00:14, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 00:55, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

  Can you update the photo to the better, more recent one now in the article? ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:05, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

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