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June 30
- An International Security Assistance Force attack in Khost province results in the death of 33 militants. (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- Chrysler announces that it will indefinitely close a minivan plant in South St. Louis, Missouri and cut production at another due to falling demand for large vehicles. (AP via Google News)
- The Court of Arbitration for Sport upholds a two year ban against cyclist Floyd Landis meaning that he will lose his 2006 Tour de France title. (AP via Google News)
- The African Union meets at Sharm el-Sheikh in Egypt with Robert Mugabe recently reelected as President of Zimbabwe representing Zimbabwe. (The Herald via AllAfrica)
- Peru's largest federation of mining unions commences strike action in order to pressure the Congress of Peru to pass legislation to improve labor benefits. (Reuters via The Guardian)
- An Ilyushin Il-76 crashes minutes after takeoff from Khartoum International Airport. All four Russian crew were killed. It is the second major air crash in the country this week. (Jerusalem Post)
- MV Princess of the Stars disaster:
- The Bureau of Marine Investigation says it has uncovered multiple lapses in Sulpicio's training and orientation of the ship's crew, but cautioned that it cannot yet draw any conclusions about the disaster's cause. (Inquirer.net)
- Sulpicio sue the Philippine Atmospheric, Geophysical and Astronomical Services Administration and two of its officials for allegedly misforcasting the route of Typhoon Fengshen, which they say makes them responsible for the sinking. (ABS)[permanent dead link]
ITN Candidates for June 30
June 29
- A ship arrives in North Korea carrying food aid from the United States as part of a deal between North Korea, the US and the United Nations. (CNN)
- Katie Hoff and Michael Phelps set world records for the 400-meter individual medley at the United States Olympics swimming trials in Omaha, Nebraska. (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- Two medical helicopters collide in Flagstaff, Arizona, resulting in seven deaths and three people being critically injured. (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- Spain wins the UEFA Euro 2008 championship defeating Germany 1-0 in the final through a goal by Fernando Torres. (BBC News)
- China will commence a new range of talks with representatives of the Dalai Lama in early July. (AFP via Google News)
- At least six people die and 39 are laid by bomb blasts in Assam, India, with the United Liberation Front of Asom believed to be responsible. (AFP via Google News)
- The Israeli cabinet votes in favour of a prisoner swap with Hezbollah. (AP via Forbes)
- Voters in Mongolia go to the polls for the Mongolian legislative election, 2008. (BBC News)
- An investigation into the crash of a Black Hawk helicopter on HMAS Kanimbla that killed two concludes excessive loading on the engine caused it to lose power. (The Australian)
- Robert Mugabe is sworn in for his sixth term as President of Zimbabwe after a controversial run-off presidential election in which opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai withdraws his candidacy due to election-related violence. (AFP via Google News)
- An aide of Malaysian politician Anwar Ibrahim lodges a police report claiming that he had been sodomised by Anwar. (BBC News)
ITN Candidates for June 29
- When the "results" to Zimbabwe's fixed elections are announced, I believe they should go up, but making note of the surrounding circumstances. SpencerT♦C 01:50, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- It's official, he's been sworn in. I've added it above, feel free to change the wording, but it should go on the main page ASAP. Rawr (talk) 17:05, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- Posted.--Pharos (talk) 20:44, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- Should know the result in 5 hours or so. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 17:03, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- I propose adding the score in as well and a change for the naming of Euro 2008 e.g. "*Germany/Spain defeats Germany/Spain 3-0 to win the European football championship." bsrboy (talk) 17:52, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- Spain defeats Germany 1–0 to win the European football championship. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 20:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- Why isn't this on the Main Page yet? bsrboy (talk) 20:45, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- The article on the final probably needs expanded a little bit more. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 21:05, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Posted. I highlighted the article on the whole championship rather than the one on the final, because it is much better developed.--Pharos (talk) 21:07, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- Shouldn't it be at the top, because it happened after the Zimbabwe elections? bsrboy (talk) 21:26, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Posted. I highlighted the article on the whole championship rather than the one on the final, because it is much better developed.--Pharos (talk) 21:07, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- The article on the final probably needs expanded a little bit more. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 21:05, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- Is the part about who scored the goal needed? --PlasmaTwa2 22:55, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- Why isn't this on the Main Page yet? bsrboy (talk) 20:45, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- How on Earth was this added? UEFA Euro 2008#Final has ABSOLUTELY NO PROSE! --Howard the Duck 03:11, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Shit on a shingle, he's right. I need to go home and get a broom; it's shenanigans. --PlasmaTwa2 03:47, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
June 28
- death of ruslana korshunova model who fell to her death]] in the financial district in new york
- The state government of India's Jammu and Kashmir has rebuked the decision to transfer forested land to Amarnath shrine following wide protests across the state. (BBC News)
- The Los Angeles Dodgers become only the fifth team in modern major league baseball history to win a game in which they didn't get a hit, defeating the Anaheim Angels 1-0. (AP via Yahoo! Sports)
- Thousands of people riot in Guizhou province in southern China following the death of a girl and a perceived government coverup. (Reuters)
- Thousands of people rally in Paris in support of the European Union removing the People's Mujahedin of Iran from its list of terrorist organisations. (VOA)[permanent dead link]
- Police in South Korea use water cannons to disperse thousands of people protesting in Seoul about the resumption of beef imports from the United States. (BBC News)
- The Community Assembly of Kosovo and Metohija, elected in May by the Serbian population, convenes its first meeting, in defiance of the Republic of Kosovo. (BBC News)
- Médecins Sans Frontières claims that South Africa has expelled 450 Zimbabwean refugees. (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- Wendy Alexander resigns as the leader of the Scottish Labour Party following a ruling from the Scottish Parliament's ethics committee over political donations. (BBC News) (AFP via Yahoo! News)
- Pakistan commences a military operation against Taliban militants in the Khyber Agency near Peshawar. (AP via The Guardian)
- Filipino boxer Manny Pacquiao beats the American David Díaz to win the WBC world lightweight title. Pacquiao becomes the first Asian boxer to win four titles in four different weight divisions. (Yahoo! Sports)
ITN Candidates for June 28
Is there an article for the new assembly the Serbs created? SpencerT♦C 01:54, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- Not as far as I can see.
But it is mentioned at the end of the article North Kosovo.Narayanese (talk) 08:36, 29 June 2008 (UTC)- Kosovan Serb Assembly, but it could use some expansion.--Pharos (talk) 22:15, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- It's now Community Assembly of Kosovo and Metohija and it looks pretty decent now. SpencerT♦C 15:28, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- The article currently does not support the wording of the blurb. - BanyanTree 02:07, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
- It's now Community Assembly of Kosovo and Metohija and it looks pretty decent now. SpencerT♦C 15:28, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Kosovan Serb Assembly, but it could use some expansion.--Pharos (talk) 22:15, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate the Pacquiao-Diaz bout but I'm really not expecting it to be added due to the participants in the bout do not come from Europe or are white Americans... --Howard the Duck 11:40, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- I nominate the following update on Amarnath controversy:
The state government of India's Jammu and Kashmir has rebuked the decision to transfer forested land to Amarnath shrine following wide protests across the state. --Emperor Genius (talk) 15:25, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- Posted update.--Pharos (talk) 20:55, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
June 27
- Serbian President Boris Tadić has named Mirko Cvetković for the new Prime Minister following the parliamentary election that were held in May. (Balkan Insight)
- Vinicio Gómez, Guatemala's Interior Minister, dies in a helicopter crash in the central department of Baja Verapaz; deputy minister Édgar Hernández and two pilots are also killed. (BBC News)
- Richard Scruggs, a high-profile United States lawyer known for his lawsuits against the tobacco, pharmaceutical and construction industries, is sentenced to five years jail for conspiracy to bribe a judge. (Reuters)
- The Andaman and Nicobar Islands are struck by an earthquake measuring 6.1 on the Richter scale. (Bloomberg)
- North Korea destroys the cooling tower of the Yongbyon Nuclear Scientific Research Center as a sign of its commitment to ending its nuclear weapons program. (The New York Times)
- Zimbabweans go to the polls for a runoff election with the President of Zimbabwe Robert Mugabe expected to be reelected following the withdrawal of Morgan Tsvangarai of the opposition Movement for Democratic Change. (CNN)
- Bill Gates, the co-founder of Microsoft, finishes work at the company before starting fulltime philanthropic work for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. (AFP)[permanent dead link]
- The discovery that the sunken Philippines ferry MV Princess of the Stars was carrying 10,000 kilos of the dangerous pesticide endosulfan leads to the temporary cessation of the recovery of the bodies on board. (CBC)
- American Foam Corporation offers to pay $6.3 million to settle legal action filed against them for manufacturing dangerous foam that contributed to the Station nightclub fire. 100 people died in the disaster. (Hartford Courant)[permanent dead link]
ITN Candidates for June 27
- Nominate the North Korea nuclear story. Signalizes the end of the North Korean nuclear weapon program, even if it is just symbolic at this point. --PlasmaTwa2 17:08, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support, bold 'nuclear weapons program' in hook, please? BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 18:27, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
- Note: not mentioned in the North Korea nuclear weapons program article. And in Yongbyon Nuclear Scientific Research Center, there's three sentences and no ref. Oppose as of now. SpencerT♦C 19:30, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose. The destruction of the cooling tower is symbolic, not substantive. Anyone who has followed the tangled history of the North Korean nuclear program should be highly skeptical of whether this actually "signals the end of the North Korean nuclear weapon program." The whole thing looks like a political show to me. In fact, the Americans actually paid the North Koreans $2.5 million to destroy the tower. Although the story is now referenced on Yongbyon Nuclear Scientific Research Center, I think there are more important, substantive stories out there.--Cdogsimmons (talk) 15:58, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate the new PM of Serbia. Serbian President Boris Tadić has named Mirko Cvetković for the new Prime Minister following the parliamentary election that were held in May.Cvetkovic Named New Serbian PM --Avala (talk) 17:59, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
- Please add this blurb to the Current events portal and then suggest the item here, being sure to bold the link to the article that has been updated. Thanks, BanyanTree 17:47, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
- Done. What happens now? --Avala (talk) 00:42, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, there's a single sentence in the article mentioning this, and for ITN, there has to at minimum be a solid paragraph (with multiple refs). If you could possibly expand this... SpencerT♦C 01:53, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- Done that too.--Avala (talk) 12:27, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, posted.--Pharos (talk) 20:49, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks but please change "appoints" to "names" as the reference says, because President is not the only on in the appointment process. Assembly has to approve the person named by President and until assembly approves it he is "mandatar" (Prime Minister-in-waiting). According to Constitution President can't name anyone if he has no assurance that such proposal will pass in the Assembly (on the other hand he can stall and not name anyone and force a new election) so it is de facto appointment but de jure it's naming.--Avala (talk) 20:59, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- OK done, thanks for clarifying.--Pharos (talk) 21:16, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks but please change "appoints" to "names" as the reference says, because President is not the only on in the appointment process. Assembly has to approve the person named by President and until assembly approves it he is "mandatar" (Prime Minister-in-waiting). According to Constitution President can't name anyone if he has no assurance that such proposal will pass in the Assembly (on the other hand he can stall and not name anyone and force a new election) so it is de facto appointment but de jure it's naming.--Avala (talk) 20:59, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, posted.--Pharos (talk) 20:49, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- Done that too.--Avala (talk) 12:27, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, there's a single sentence in the article mentioning this, and for ITN, there has to at minimum be a solid paragraph (with multiple refs). If you could possibly expand this... SpencerT♦C 01:53, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- Done. What happens now? --Avala (talk) 00:42, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
June 26
- The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (Icann) relaxes rules on the creation of top-level domain names like .com or .edu, which could pave the way for companies or individuals to create an array of new addresses for the Web. Icann also approves measures that will allow top-level domain names to be written in scripts such as Arabic or Cyrillic. (The Wall Street Journal) (CNN) (Reuters)
- A former Taliban fighter claims that members of the Pakistan military secretly supported the insurgency in Afghanistan by providing training and material support. (Canadian Press via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- North Korea releases details of its nuclear program and the United States removes it from its list of state sponsors of terrorism. (Bloomberg)
- The Austrian SPÖ states that in the future, it wants to hold referendums on EU treaties. (STANDARD)
- A report published in the journal Nature says a 365 million-year-old fossil of a four-legged fish found in Latvia sheds new light on the process of evolution. The creature, named Ventastega curonica, had a fish-like body but the head of an animal more suited to land than water. (BBC News) (The Daily Telegraph) (Science News)
- Irish and British transport ministers agree to a mutual driver disqualification scheme. (RTÉ) (BBC News)
- In a 5–4 decision, the Supreme Court of the United States holds in District of Columbia v. Heller that the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution protects an individual right to own a firearm and keep it on their property, ruling a District of Columbia gun control law unconstitutional and putting many other similar measures in jeopardy. (CNN)
- A bus and a truck collide in China's Henan Province, leaving five dead and eight injured. (Xinhua)
ITN Candidates for June 26
Nominate the decision of District of Columbia v. Heller which is a significant and long-awaited decision by the United States Supreme Court regarding the right to keep and bear arms embodied in the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution.--Cdogsimmons (talk) 16:08, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Tentative support I think this is of international interest. Europeans in particular think Americans' lack of gun control (a real outlier among developed countries) is insane. Mangostar (talk) 16:12, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Note that this is actually the first time that the court has asserted an individual right to bear arms, which is highly significant.--Pharos (talk) 16:56, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Support. This is a very historical ruling. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 17:32, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support as most interesting item of the day. Hobartimus (talk) 18:40, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Also, a very well updated article, mentioning the ruling, some reactions, and possible implications. Random89 18:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support (I am European and think this is interesting). How about the formulation
- In District of Columbia v. Heller the United States Supreme Court rules that the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution protects an individual right to possess a firearm for private use. The decision is expected to have consequences for other firearm bans in the United States.
- Thue | talk 21:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Posted.--Pharos (talk) 01:49, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
June 25
- EU's representative in Kosovo Pieter Feith says he expects Montenegro will recognize Kosovo's unilateral independence "as soon as possible", as it would "contribute to regional stability". (B92)
- Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe is stripped of his honorary Order of the Bath knighthood, upon the advice of the UK Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs. (The Guardian)
- United States Supreme Court
- The US Supreme Court rules in Exxon Shipping Co. v. Baker that the damages awarded in the Exxon Valdez case were excessive and reduces them from $2.7 billion to $507 million. (AFP via Google News)
- The US Supreme Court rules in Kennedy v. Louisiana that the death penalty may not be used for crimes which did not result in the death of another person. (The New York Times)
- Violent protests over the Amarnath shrine immobilize Srinagar and other parts of Indian Jammu and Kashmir. (BBC News)
- China reopens Tibet to foreign tourists as a ban imposed during the Tibetan unrest is lifted. (BBC News)
- The Italian Senate passes a bill which the opposition claims is designed to ameliorate the legal troubles of Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi. (BBC News)
- Saudi Arabia announces that it is holding 520 al-Qaeda-linked militants in the insurgency in Saudi Arabia arrested in 2008. (BBC News)
- The Supreme Court of Pakistan delays by-elections until it can handle the appeal of disqualified candidate Nawaz Sharif, former Prime Minister and leader of the Pakistan Muslim League (N). (BBC News)
- A worker at a plastics plant in Henderson, Kentucky shoots and kills five people and wounds another before killing himself. (WYMT-TV)
- The Government of New Zealand agrees to hand over $NZ420 million in forestry assets to seven Maori tribes as part of the reconciliation process. (AFP via Google News)
- The Prime Minister of Israel Ehud Olmert strikes a deal with the Labor Party to avoid dissolution of the Knesset in return for Olmert holding a leadership contest for the Kadima party by September. (BBC News)
ITN Candidates for June 25
![Flag of New Zealand](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg/100px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg.png)
- New Zealand (flag pictured) agrees to hand over forestry assets to seven Maori tribes as part of the reconciliation process. --Hapsala (talk) 10:02, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- A flag picture wouldn't be recommended in this setting. SpencerT♦C 13:28, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- The Treaty of Waitangi claims and settlements article has not yet been updated, which is a necessary prerequisite for items to appear on ITN. Thanks.--Pharos (talk) 14:26, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- Marginally updated. Timer's up and I'll go with this marginal item rather than the other since I really can't stand people who complain about how I'm too racist to post their item as they nominate it. Posted to the end of the template, where it may just fit. - BanyanTree 02:20, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate Amarnath#2008_protests. I expanded it, although it could use a bit of work and maybe another sentence. SpencerT♦C 21:15, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- Posted.--Pharos (talk) 01:59, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Was even expanded even more. Great! SpencerT♦C 14:01, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate Sharif case and Pakistani general election, 2008 by-elections delay.--Pharos (talk) 00:16, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Don't really see anything wrong with this. SpencerT♦C 14:10, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Wow, that red timer is really startling on my user page. Posted. - BanyanTree 17:46, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. The timer was quite annoying. SpencerT♦C 20:00, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
- Wow, that red timer is really startling on my user page. Posted. - BanyanTree 17:46, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
- Don't really see anything wrong with this. SpencerT♦C 14:10, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
![Nawaz Sharif](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2a/Nawaz_Sharif_profile.jpg/100px-Nawaz_Sharif_profile.jpg)
- Since they're actually holding the elections other than Sharif's seat today (the BBC story wasn't clear on this before), I've updated this for June 26.--Pharos (talk) 01:05, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- Commons:Image:Cave Temple of Lord Amarnath.jpg has been on ITN for two days now. Can we switch to a picture of Nawaz Sharif (right), please? --199.71.174.100 (talk) 21:00, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate Kennedy v. Louisiana story. It's already a well developed article, an interesting story, and an important shift in American law.--Cdogsimmons (talk) 00:51, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose per the discussion on the talk page. --PlasmaTwa2 01:29, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
June 24
- Representing Pope Benedict XVI, Colombian Cardinal Darío Castrillón Hoyos is pressing the traditionalist Society of St. Pius X to accept five conditions, including respect for the pope and his authority, as part of a reconciliation offer. (CNS) (Catholic World News) (The New Liturgical Movement)
- Plans are unveiled for the world's first swirling skyscraper in Dubai, with each floor rotating up to once an hour to form an ever-changing profile on the skyline. (ABC) (The Independent) (Reuters)
- A bomb at an office building in Baghdad kills eight people and injures 10. The U.S. military blames the attack on rogue members of Shia Muslim militias. The attack is believed to be a suicide bombing, but the U.S. military is investigating allegations that a bomb was planted in the building. (BBC News)
- An Israeli security officer shoots himself as French President Nicolas Sarkozy is about to board his plane after a 3-day trip to Israel and the West Bank. (BBC News)
- The authorities in Mexico City sack 17 police officers for their role in a stampede during a raid at a nightclub that caused the death of 12 people. (BBC News)
- The National Assembly of Niger votes to try former Prime Minister Hama Amadou on graft charges. (Reuters)[permanent dead link]
- The U.S. state of Florida purchases 187,000 acres from the US Sugar Corporation to add to protected lands in the Everglades. (The Guardian) (BBC News)
- Franz Josef Jung, the German Minister of Defence, announces plans to commit a thousand extra troops to Afghanistan. (Reuters)
- 2008 Pacific typhoon season: Typhoon Fengshen in the Philippines
- Divers see bodies in the wreck of the MV Princess of the Stars off the coast of the Philippines, but no sign of survivors. (Reuters via The Age)
- Economic crisis of 2008
- Ireland's Economic and Social Research Institute (ESRI) says the country is in the grip of a recession for the first time in a quarter of a century. However, it predicts the economy will return to positive growth in 2009 and normal growth by 2010. (RTÉ News)
ITN Candidates for June 24
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Phoenix_Ice.jpg/125px-Phoenix_Ice.jpg)
Can a cut version of this NASA photo of the water on Mars be used for the image? BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 20:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
- It lookd fine in the small scale, licence is ok, illustrates the blurb -> support. --Tone 22:31, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate Everglades.--Pharos (talk) 00:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not seeing how this has much international interest or significance. SpencerT♦C 14:11, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
June 23
- Malaysia releases Buhary Syed Abu Tahir, a leading business associate of Pakistani nuclear scientist A. Q. Khan. (BBC News)
- The 2008 meeting of the International Whaling Commission begins in Santiago, Chile. (BBC News)
- Nawaz Sharif, former Prime Minister of Pakistan and leader of the Pakistan Muslim League (N), is found ineligible by a court to stand in upcoming by-elections. (BBC News)
- In Serbia, the Milošević-founded Socialist Party is to join the coalition led by the pro-Western Democratic Party which came to power in 2007 elections. (BBC News)
- China fires twelve officials for misconduct in the Sichuan earthquake relief effort. (BBC News)
- The Supreme Court of the United States refuses to hear an appeal of eminent domain eviction notices in connection with the Atlantic Yards development in Brooklyn, New York City. (AP via Yahoo! News)
- The Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit rules that Hozaifa Parhat, a Chinese Uyghur militant currently detained at the Guantanamo Bay detention camp, cannot be ruled an "enemy combatant" because he never took up arms against the United States. (AP via Yahoo! News)
- The European Union agrees to new sanctions against Iran including a freeze on the assets of Bank Melli, Iran's largest bank, over the refusal to curb its nuclear program. (Reuters via Sydney Morning Herald)
- Zimbabwean Electoral Crisis:
- Opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai seeks refuge in Dutch Embassy. (BBC News)
- The United States Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice questions the legitimacy of the upcoming presidential election and calls for relevant bodies such as the African Union and the United Nations Security Council to consider the issue. (Reuters)
- The United Nations Security Council condemns the Government of Zimbabwe for a "campaign of violence". (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- The 2008 Wimbledon Championships begins in London. (TSN via Canada.com)
- 2008 Pacific typhoon season: Typhoon Fengshen in the Philippines
- An additional 28 survivors from the MV Princess of the Stars are found but there are still more than 800 missing from the vessel that sunk during Typhoon Fengshen. (Reuters)
- An Australian air safety group claims that Yogyakarta International Airport was operating illegally with no valid license at the time Garuda Indonesia Flight 200 crashed, killing 21. They also accuse two other airports of similar violations and three official bodies of keeping it from public knowledge. (Crikey)
ITN Candidates for June 23
- Comedian George Carlin dies at age 71.
- Support if updated If I'm not mistaken, he was still performing regularly. The death seems pretty sudden (same day he was admitted to the hospital). Still needs more than two sentences, however. Teemu08 (talk) 16:46, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- Ditto. Needs an update before it can go up. Random89 18:56, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- Strong support if updated. Agree with Teemu, must be longer, but Carlin's influence on popular culture and modern comedy is undeniable and quite significant. Kntrabssi (talk) 19:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- Should we mention the seven words thing? He was pretty famous because of that. SpencerT♦C 19:17, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support, as above. I think the "seven words" bit would be too much information for a blurb. --Bongwarrior (talk) 19:47, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose, no international impact Naerii 23:55, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- What Naerii said. --Howard the Duck 07:33, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support in principle maybe this is stale now, but I think Carlin is significant enough to merit mention (per article, ranked 2nd greatest stand-up comedian ever). Too bad we missed a shot at the death reform... Mangostar (talk) 07:43, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- Opppose A 71 year old dying of heart failure is not unexpected by any stretch of imagination. Nil Einne (talk) 03:14, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- I think this is the main problem with our death criteria--why is unexpected so important? Mangostar (talk) 16:16, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate Hozaifa Parhat.--Pharos (talk) 00:13, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- It was a shame that the issues with Boumediene v. Bush weren't resolved in time to get it on ITN, but this helps make up for it, even if there are now two U.S. judicial blurbs now... Posted. - BanyanTree 18:15, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
June 22
- The Global Anglican Future Conference, a forum for conservative bishops and leaders of the Anglican Communion, opens in Jerusalem as an alternative to the Fourteenth Lambeth Conference. (BBC News)
- Tarija Department becomes the fourth Bolivian department to vote for greater autonomy from the government of the President of Bolivia Evo Morales. (AFP via Google News)
- A female suicide bomber kills at least 16 people and injures another 40 in Baquba, Iraq. (CNN)
- Saudi Arabia offers to increase its oil production slightly at an oil summit in Jeddah. (The New York Times)
- Zimbabwe Electoral Crisis
- Zimbabwean opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai pulls out of the June 27 run-off presidential election after President Robert Mugabe's supporters attacked his rally. (Reuters) (Bloomberg)
- 2008 Pacific typhoon season: Typhoon Fengshen in the Philippines
- The death toll in the Philippines from Typhoon Fengshen rises to at least 155 according to Red Cross estimates with 59 people dead and 40 people missing in Iloilo province alone. (AP via Google News) (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- A large bus collides head-on with a smaller minibus in Cox's Bazar, Bangladesh, leaving nine dead. (The International Herald Tribune)
ITN Candidates for June 22
- Zimbabwean opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai pulls out of the June 27 run-off presidential election, saying that the election would not be free or fair.
- Thue | talk 17:08, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- Also mention that Mugabe wins by default. --Howard the Duck 17:13, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support, but the section mentioning the withdrawl needs to be expanded. SpencerT♦C 17:30, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- Definitely. It currently says for example "Despite Tsvangirai's continuing claims to have won a first round majority, he is participating in the second round" Nil Einne (talk) 21:21, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- Comment According to our article, the Mugabe government (of course in theory this is up to the EC, not the government, but um, you know...) says the runoff will still be held, so Mugabe may not win by default. Nil Einne (talk) 21:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- Mugabe has not won yet, he has to wait till the results come in. However, there is nothing less then an assassination that will keep him from winning, so for all reasons he has won already. --PlasmaTwa2 21:54, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- If the election goes ahead then it's possible he may not win. Given the current climate, this may seem unlikely but I think it's worth pointing out that a candidate doesn't win by default unless there is no election/no challengers but in this case it appears there will be even though the challenger pulled out (this isn't actually unheard of even in countries without the problems Zimbabwe has since challengers pull out for a variety of reasons but the name will often remain on the ballot if it's already been printed). A good example would be the recent item on a dead man winning in some Polish? election Nil Einne (talk) 09:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- Romanian mayoral election. But I doubt this would happen here, because most people would not risk intimidation and violence to vote for someone not in the election. Random89 18:55, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- I agree (hence my comment this seems unlikely) but the fact remains, Mugabe clearly hasn't won by default Nil Einne (talk) 03:16, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Then how would he lose?
BushGordon Brown has to drop a rock from outer space and prays it hits Mugabe? --Howard the Duck 17:43, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Then how would he lose?
- I agree (hence my comment this seems unlikely) but the fact remains, Mugabe clearly hasn't won by default Nil Einne (talk) 03:16, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Romanian mayoral election. But I doubt this would happen here, because most people would not risk intimidation and violence to vote for someone not in the election. Random89 18:55, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- If the election goes ahead then it's possible he may not win. Given the current climate, this may seem unlikely but I think it's worth pointing out that a candidate doesn't win by default unless there is no election/no challengers but in this case it appears there will be even though the challenger pulled out (this isn't actually unheard of even in countries without the problems Zimbabwe has since challengers pull out for a variety of reasons but the name will often remain on the ballot if it's already been printed). A good example would be the recent item on a dead man winning in some Polish? election Nil Einne (talk) 09:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- Mugabe has not won yet, he has to wait till the results come in. However, there is nothing less then an assassination that will keep him from winning, so for all reasons he has won already. --PlasmaTwa2 21:54, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support, but the section mentioning the withdrawl needs to be expanded. SpencerT♦C 17:30, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- Also mention that Mugabe wins by default. --Howard the Duck 17:13, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
June 21
- France and Algeria sign an agreement that could lead to French nuclear power technology being employed in Algerian reactors. (BBC News)
- Militants in Pakistan fire mortars on a NATO base and Afghan army base. (Economic Times in Pakistan)
- An employee for the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees in Somalia is kidnapped. (AP via International Herald Tribune)
- The Government of the Central African Republic signs a peace deal with two rebel groups which promises amnesty for rebel soldiers. (AP via International Herald Tribune)
- Militants in Delta State, Nigeria, blow up a Chevron oil pipeline leading to a cessation of production by Chevron in Nigeria. (Bloomberg)
- 2008 Pacific typhoon season: Typhoon Fengshen in the Philippines
- The death toll in the Philippines from Typhoon Fengshen rises to at least 20 from flooding and landslides. Ten people drown after the Rifao River overflows its banks and sweeps away three houses in South Upi, Maguindanao. (Xinhua)
- At least four people die with the balance missing when the ferry MV Princess of the Stars, carrying 700 passengers, sinks near Sibuyan island in the wake of Typhoon Fengshen. (Reuters) (Reuters)
- South Korea renegotiates its beef import deal with the United States following widespread protests at the original deal due to concerns over mad cow disease. (Bloomberg)
- Four ISAF soldiers are killed by a bomb in Afghanistan. (AP via MSNBC)
- Sudan Airways is grounded for a month by the Civil Aviation Authority of Sudan for violations prior to their most recent crash. (BBC News) (Reuters)[permanent dead link]
- UEFA Euro 2008: Russia beat Netherlands 3-1 after extra time, advancing to the semi-finals. (UEFA Euro 2008 website)
ITN Candidates for June 21
- I have expanded Typhoon Fengshen, and would like to put it on the table. SpencerT♦C 19:26, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
- Posted. Thanks, Spencer.--Pharos (talk) 00:24, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- You may want to add the sunk ship, MV Princess of the Star, once it gets expanded. --Howard the Duck 04:43, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- Can you have the link for the typhoon not go to the 2008 Pacific typhoon season#Typhoon Fengshen (Frank) but to the storms own wiki page, Typhoon Fengshen (2008)? Thanks, BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 17:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- Posted at the Main page errors page and fixed. SpencerT♦C 01:43, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- Can you have the link for the typhoon not go to the 2008 Pacific typhoon season#Typhoon Fengshen (Frank) but to the storms own wiki page, Typhoon Fengshen (2008)? Thanks, BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 17:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- You may want to add the sunk ship, MV Princess of the Star, once it gets expanded. --Howard the Duck 04:43, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
June 20
- A female Iranian student who accused the vice-chancellor of her university of sexually harassing her was arrested. The charges against her aren't clear. The vice-chancellor was also arrested.BBC News
- 2008 Pacific typhoon season: Typhoon Fengshen in the Philippines
- At least two people die in a landslide in Cotabato City in Mindanao as Typhoon Fengshen hits the Philippines. (Bloomberg)
- UAE wins the first ever Arab Cup of Ice Hockey by defeating Kuwait 4-1. (National Team Scores)
- Thai Political Crisis
- People's Alliance for Democracy marched to the Government House in Bangkok demand that the Prime Minister, Samak Sundaravej step down. (BBC News)
- The Franco-American Jason-2 satellite launches, with a mission of furthering the study of physical oceanography. (BBC News)
- Police in Nepal detain more than 700 Tibetan exiles protesting outside the Chinese embassy and arrest three activists for alleged anti-China activities. (AFP via Google News)
- A suicide bomb attack in southern Afghanistan kills 6 civilians. (BBC News)
- Phoenix lander exploration of Mars
- The European Union agrees to lift the sanctions it has imposed on Cuba since the 2003 Cocktail Wars dispute. (RTÉ) (BBC News)
- Twelve people are trampled to death trying to escape a police raid in northern Mexico City. (CNN)
ITN Candidates for June 20
- Nominate EU-Cuba hook. Good cross-global news, and worthy, I think, of ITN. BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 12:37, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
- What would be the central article? Otherwise, it's a good story, if there's an updated article, I support. --Tone 12:40, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
- The relevant article would be Cocktail Wars, and I've just added that to the blurb. It hasn't been substantially updated, though, which would be necessary if this were to be posted. Thanks.--Pharos (talk) 13:55, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
- It would probably be good if that article mentioned the sanctions at all. --- RockMFR 17:35, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
- The relevant article would be Cocktail Wars, and I've just added that to the blurb. It hasn't been substantially updated, though, which would be necessary if this were to be posted. Thanks.--Pharos (talk) 13:55, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate the "Ice water is believed to be found on Mars" story -- Coasttocoast (talk) 23:04, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
- The article is not updated yet. When it is, I support, this is a good science story. --Tone 23:11, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/OSTM-06.jpg/100px-OSTM-06.jpg)
- The article appears to be updated now.--Pharos (talk) 22:59, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate Ocean Surface Topography Mission/Jason-2 item.--Pharos (talk) 23:15, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support. And here's an image. It's NASA, thus PD. BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 00:26, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
- It is a current event, but I would question whether it is featuring large in the news. Not in top 26 stories on BBC World news page. As regards the picture, it is an artist's impression, and an artist commissioned by a vested interest at that, therefore neither factual (no-one has seen it looking like that) nor NPOV. Kevin McE (talk) 09:03, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
- The article could also use some cleanup, I'll try to work on that. SpencerT♦C 16:30, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
- I've been doing some cleanup and linking, but I'm probably going to need some more help. The article needs a lot more refs. SpencerT♦C 16:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
- The article could also use some cleanup, I'll try to work on that. SpencerT♦C 16:30, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
- It is a current event, but I would question whether it is featuring large in the news. Not in top 26 stories on BBC World news page. As regards the picture, it is an artist's impression, and an artist commissioned by a vested interest at that, therefore neither factual (no-one has seen it looking like that) nor NPOV. Kevin McE (talk) 09:03, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
June 19
- The President of Venezuela Hugo Chávez threatens to stop selling oil to European countries who apply new European Union legislation on illegal immigration. (Reuters)
- Iraqi security forces enter the city of Amarah, arrest its Sadrist mayor, and take control. (BBC News)
- An Alabama state judge upholds a fraud verdict against AstraZeneca Pharmaceuticals in a Medicaid drug pricing suit but reduces the value of damages to $160 million. (AP via Forbes)
- The President of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad accuses the United States of plotting to kidnap and assassinate him during a visit to Iraq. (AP via Forbes)
- Subprime mortgage crisis
- A Congressional ethics panel is examining allegations that Democrat Senators Christopher Dodd of Connecticut (the sponsor of a major $300 billion housing bailout bill) and Kent Conrad of North Dakota received preferential loans by troubled mortgage lender Countrywide Financial Corp. (Reuters via Yahoo! News)
- Two former Bear Stearns hedge fund managers are arrested and will be the first Wall Street executives to face criminal charges. (Bloomberg)
- Royal Dutch Shell shuts down an offshore oil installation in Nigeria after an attack from the Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta. (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- Zimbabwean presidential election, 2008:
- Zimbabwe police arrest an opposition Movement for Democratic Change lawmaker and place six others on a wanted list. (AFP)[permanent dead link]
- The bodies of four people who opposed Robert Mugabe have been found in Harare. (Sky News)
- Lee Myung-bak, the President of South Korea, apologises to South Koreans over an unpopular decision to resume importing beef from the United States. (Reuters)
- Commencing at dawn, the Israeli Government and Hamas declare a truce in the Israel-Gaza conflict, halting attacks across the border between the Gaza Strip and Israel. (Chicago Tribune)
- A report reveals sailors onboard the submarine HMCS Chicoutimi during a 2004 fire may develop serious health problems as a result. (Canada.com)
- Four German and Spanish servicemen die when their EUFOR helicopter crashes in Bosnia and Herzegovina. (Deutsche Welle)
ITN Candidates for June 19
Recommendation: How about replacing the picture of Tiger with a map of China, highlighting the two areas (Guangzhou and Shenzhen) that have been hit hardest by the flooding. Why? Because I think pretty much everyone knows what Tiger looks like at this point, and I think most people (def. most Americans, but I would bet in other countries too) have no idea where Guangzhou is. I would imagine that a map like that would be fairly easy to make, although having said that, I have no idea how to do it myself. MookieZ (talk) 05:22, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- Maps usually don't look all that great on the template, due to the small size. Is there a actual picture of the flooding? I would support something like that going up. --PlasmaTwa2 05:26, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe an image of ISAF or Taliban troops? I know there's a few floating around. Random89 07:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- I asked the owner of this image to relicense his image under a free license. J.delanoygabsadds 13:55, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I got the image, but it looks like someone already changed the picture on the main page. If anyone's interested, the image is at Image:Flooding, Shenzhen, China.jpg. J.delanoygabsadds 16:57, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- Since Paul Pierce was up for 24 hours, I've rotated it out now and put in the flooding photo.--Pharos (talk) 17:52, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I got the image, but it looks like someone already changed the picture on the main page. If anyone's interested, the image is at Image:Flooding, Shenzhen, China.jpg. J.delanoygabsadds 16:57, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- I asked the owner of this image to relicense his image under a free license. J.delanoygabsadds 13:55, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe an image of ISAF or Taliban troops? I know there's a few floating around. Random89 07:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
![Flag of Niue](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/01/Flag_of_Niue.svg/100px-Flag_of_Niue.svg.png)
- Nominate the new Premier of Niue, Toke Talagi. Talagi was formally elected as the new Premier of Niue (flag pictured) on Thursday, June 19 following the Niuean general election, 2008. A change of leadership is notable, and this might be a good way to draw attention to subjects which don't normally get much detailed attention on Wikipedia. -- Scanlan (talk) 04:55, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
- It might have gone up at the time, but even if it had done, it would have dropped of the bottom of the page by now. But at least now you now where to make the proposal, please keep us alert to such issues. Kevin McE (talk) 11:05, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
June 18
- Brazil celebrates the 100th year of the Japanese Immigration. (Folha Online)
- Somali President Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed survives an assassination attempt. (BBC News)
- The Parliament of the United Kingdom ratifies the Treaty of Lisbon. (Bloomberg)
- The United States and China agree to negotiate an investment treaty and to cooperate more closely on energy security and global pollution. (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- The European Parliament passes legislation to allow undocumented aliens to be held in detention centres for up to 18 months and banned from European Union territory for five years. (The New York Times)
- Mexico reaches an agreement with industry groups to fix the prices of 150 food items as a result of accelerating inflation. (Bloomberg)
- Sudan and former southern rebels start deploying joint forces in the troubled Abyei region as part of an agreement. (AP via Forbes)
- Russian prosecutors charge three men in the murder of journalist Anna Politkovskaya. (BBC News)
- China and Japan agree to joint development of the Chunxiao gas field in a disputed area of the East China Sea. (BBC News)
- Relatives of Srebrenica massacre victims open a case in a Dutch court against the United Nations and the Netherlands for the failure of the Dutchbat force to prevent the killings. (BBC News)
- The Gujjar community of the Indian state of Rajasthan achieves a compromise recognition as a special category of Other Backward Class in the state's affirmative action program, comparable to the status of Banjaras and Rabaris. (BBC News)
- American golfer Tiger Woods will miss the rest of the golf season to have additional surgery on his left knee. (MarketWatch)
- Romanian villagers vote to re-elect a dead man as their mayor, to prevent his living rival winning. (BBC News)
- The High Court of South Africa extends affirmative action benefits of the Black Economic Empowerment program to members of the South African Chinese community. (BBC News)
- Six laptops containing information on about 20,000 patients are stolen from a London hospital. (BBC News)
- Afghan and Canadian forces begin an offensive against the Taliban in the Arghandab District of Kandahar. (Press Association via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- Israel agrees to a truce starting Thursday with the Hamas-led government in the Gaza Strip. (BBC News)
- Israel suggests peace talks with Lebanon to end the 60-year Israeli-Lebanese conflict. (The Guardian)
- Sweden votes in favour of the FRA law, allowing all e-mails and phone calls to be monitored. (The Local)
ITN Candidates for June 18
Afghan and Canadian-led ISAF forces begin an offensive against the Taliban in the Arghandab District of Kandahar. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 14:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support Article is updated, pretty important event in Afghanistan (At least to us Canadians, since we're the majority of the NATO forces in the "battle"). I would suggest changing NATO to ISAF, though. And, by the way, the Romanian mayor thing is fucking hilarious. --PlasmaTwa2 17:11, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- I agree, I took the liberty of editing the hook to be more accurate and do a better job reflecting exactly what is in the portal blurb. Random89 21:00, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support, as article is very good, info-wise, and really looks like a good Wikipedia article. Also, good to have some war-related hooks on ITN. BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 21:19, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Posted. This is a good one, thanks.--Pharos (talk) 21:52, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate Swedish FRA-law item.--Pharos (talk) 23:23, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
- OK, I've posted this one.--Pharos (talk) 00:35, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate Srebrenica massacre item.--Pharos (talk) 23:24, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
- I've posted this one.--Pharos (talk) 01:52, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
June 17
- Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama opens the U.S. general election campaign with a narrow lead over Republican John McCain. (Reuters)
- Demonstrators in the Moquegua Region in southern Peru release 48 police officers who they had held hostage for a day. (CNN)
- The Boston Celtics defeat the Los Angeles Lakers to win the 2008 NBA Finals. (NZ Stuff)
- President Nicolas Sarkozy announces that France intends to return to the military structure of NATO for the first time since Charles de Gaulle led it out of the organisation in 1966. (AFP via Google News)
- Iraq:
- A military judge dismisses charges against a United States Marine Corps colonel of failing to investigate the Haditha killings. (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- A car bomb at a bus stop in northern Baghdad kills at least 51 people and injures another 75. (AFP via Google News)
- In its annual report, the UNHCR says the number of refugees in the world rose to 11.4 million in 2007 from 9.9m in 2006. (AP via Forbes)
- Tsutomu Miyazaki, known as "The Otaku Murderer", is executed by hanging in Tokyo for the murders and cannibalization of four young girls in 1988 and 1989. He was hanged with two others, each convicted in separate, unrelated murders. (The Times)
- In the aftermath of the 2008 Sichuan earthquake, the Chinese government faces growing criticism from grieving parents who allege that corrupt and shoddy construction was behind the disproportionately high number of collapsed school buildings. (Christian Science Monitor)
- Lebanese security officials say that clashes between pro-government and anti-government lead to three deaths in the villages of Taalabaya and Saadnayel in eastern Lebanon. (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- The Korean Confederation of Trade Unions calls a one day strike for July 2 in protest at the President of South Korea Lee Myung-bak's economic reform plans. (Reuters via The Guardian)
- Summer 2008 China region floods: Large areas of southern China are hit by the worst floods in decades with Guangzhou and Shenzhen worst affected. So far, 63 people have died and 1.66 million have been evacuated. (AFP via Google News)
ITN Candidates for June 17
NBA Finals
- The Boston Celtics defeat the Los Angeles Lakers to win basketball's NBA Finals, beating their own record for most championships won by a single team. [1]
- According to my mole the Celtics would win Game 6 so... --Howard the Duck 05:46, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- Remember this should only be posted when the article is up to scratch, NOT before Nil Einne (talk) 10:56, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- Usually right after the game someone will add a game summary (NBA.com also has a game summary right after the game) so having issues as what happened on the NHL blurb should not (hopefully) happen. --Howard the Duck 14:27, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- It ought to go onto the Current portal first. Kevin McE (talk) 14:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- It will fulfill all of the necessary criteria once the game is over (if the Celtics win). This is a routinary post as per WP:ITNSPORTS. --Howard the Duck 14:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- And all of the previous games have been sufficiently covered at Portal:Current events/Sports. --Howard the Duck 14:46, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- Should we expand the blurb to mention that this would be there 17th title? 5:15 02:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- No, that's just trivia. --PlasmaTwa2 05:16, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- I
thoughtlesslyboldly posted a Celtics blurb, but I didn't think to look at the suggestions here first, so I used my own wording. My apologies for that. My (current) version reads: "The Boston Celtics defeat the Los Angeles Lakers in six games to win the 2008 National Basketball Association Finals." I think the wording is okay, but I'll understand completely if there's a more preferred version you'd like to replace it with. --Bongwarrior (talk) 06:50, 18 June 2008 (UTC)- You probably could just shorten it to "NBA". Most people will know what your talking about, I think. --PlasmaTwa2 08:17, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- If it'll be shortened to "NBA" better phrase it as "basketball's NBA Finals" since a lot of people who don't wish to see American sporting events at ITN won't get it. --Howard the Duck 09:07, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- It has nothing to do with what peple want to see: it is to do with avoiding abbreviations that would be unfamiliar to large numbers of readers. Kevin McE (talk) 14:17, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Sure, it has nothing to do with unfamiliar to large numbers of readers. I bet the people who follow the UEFA Champions League would have to think quite an amount of time to remember what "UEFA" means. Lets have a rule to avoid acronyms altogether. --Howard the Duck 14:38, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- But most people know the NBA and the Champions League, but not the National Basketball Association and UEFA. Let's not blindly ban all acronyms.
- Let's change this blurb to
- "In basketball, the Boston Celtics defeat the Los Angeles Lakers to win the 2008 NBA Finals."
- No need for complicated piping and unfamiliar wording. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 21:48, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- "most" in your experience may not be universal.
Without a context, and Boston Celtics is not an informative context for those unfamiliar with the sport, NBA could mean a number of things.ITN is on the front page, not a section that people seek out because they have a specialised interest. Only the most universally recognised acronyms should be used (USA might get through). Kevin McE (talk) 22:35, 18 June 2008 (UTC)- I'd agree, except that, imo, the acronym "NBA" is as widely recognized as USA or BBC. I suppose this is why NBA does not redirect to NBA (disambiguation). Mentioning "basketball" in the ITN headline should give sufficient context, anyways. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 22:42, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- "most" in your experience may not be universal.
- Sure, it has nothing to do with unfamiliar to large numbers of readers. I bet the people who follow the UEFA Champions League would have to think quite an amount of time to remember what "UEFA" means. Lets have a rule to avoid acronyms altogether. --Howard the Duck 14:38, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- It has nothing to do with what peple want to see: it is to do with avoiding abbreviations that would be unfamiliar to large numbers of readers. Kevin McE (talk) 14:17, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- If it'll be shortened to "NBA" better phrase it as "basketball's NBA Finals" since a lot of people who don't wish to see American sporting events at ITN won't get it. --Howard the Duck 09:07, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- You probably could just shorten it to "NBA". Most people will know what your talking about, I think. --PlasmaTwa2 08:17, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- I
- No, that's just trivia. --PlasmaTwa2 05:16, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Should we expand the blurb to mention that this would be there 17th title? 5:15 02:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- And all of the previous games have been sufficiently covered at Portal:Current events/Sports. --Howard the Duck 14:46, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- It will fulfill all of the necessary criteria once the game is over (if the Celtics win). This is a routinary post as per WP:ITNSPORTS. --Howard the Duck 14:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- It ought to go onto the Current portal first. Kevin McE (talk) 14:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- Usually right after the game someone will add a game summary (NBA.com also has a game summary right after the game) so having issues as what happened on the NHL blurb should not (hopefully) happen. --Howard the Duck 14:27, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- Can we have a picture of the NBA Finals MVP, Paul Pierce (right, need cropping before use) on ITN, please? Tiger Woods' pic has been on ITN for two days now. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 22:12, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Good idea. Remember to upload the cropped version here first, a commons link is not ok. --Tone 22:24, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- OK, done. Cropped, and posted. But this'll happen quicker in the future if the nominator does the crop beforehand. Thanks.--Pharos (talk) 15:59, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I can't really crop images using my work PC, and as an anon, I cannot upload images. Thank you, David Levy and Pharos, for cropping and posting my suggested pic on ITN. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 23:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- Can we have a picture of the NBA Finals MVP, Paul Pierce (right, need cropping before use) on ITN, please? Tiger Woods' pic has been on ITN for two days now. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 22:12, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Flood in China
- Large areas of southern China are hit by the worst floods in decades with Guangzhou and Shenzhen worst affected, and at least 63 fatalities and 1.66 million people evacuated.
- If flooding in mid-west USA has featured, where the scale is far less dramatic and cost in human life less than 20% of this, it would appear to be parochialism of the wost kind to not include this. Kevin McE (talk) 14:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support, as, like Kevin McE said, it would be absolutely unfair to include the US's flooding but not this. BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 16:06, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- Over 1 million displaced => support. Thue | talk 16:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- Really many catastrophes in China recently... Support inclusion, significant event. --Tone 17:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- Posted. Please update these articles before nominating them. I had to update this one with the information from the blurb myself.--Pharos (talk) 20:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
June 16
- Chadian rebels take the town Biltine as they move toward the capital N'Djamena. (BBC News)
- Hundreds of Taliban militants swarm in the Arghandab District of Kandahar Province with the Afghan government sending reinforcements to the nearby city of Kandahar. (The New York Times)
- Same-sex marriage in California comes into effect following a court ruling on May 15, 2008. (Reuters)
- International Criminal Court judges severely criticize prosecutors in the case against Thomas Lubanga. (BBC News)
- Israel and Syria conclude talks on the Golan Heights issue held in Turkey. (BBC News)
- An official of the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs reports that effect food crisis on Somalia is creating a worse humanitarian situation than the War in Darfur. (BBC News)
- Tiger Woods defeats Rocco Mediate in a playoff to win the 2008 U.S. Open Golf Championship. (AP via The New York Times)
- The European Union agrees to tougher sanctions against Iran for its alleged nuclear weapons program with the United Kingdom freezing assets of Iran's largest bank Bank Melli. (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- France announces plans to cut 54,000 defense jobs and push for a stronger European Security and Defence Policy as part of a new defense strategy. (AP via CNN)
- South Korean construction workers join truck drivers in going on strike seeking higher pay and lower fuel costs. (Reuters)
- Japan turns away a Taiwan activist boat near the disputed Senkaku Islands in a protest against a ship collision last week. (Reuters)
- Heavy rainstorm and major flooding continues in the South China region. Millions of people are affected in Anhui, Hunan, Jiangxi, Fujian and Guangdong. Tens of thousands of victims of the 2008 Sichuan earthquake are evacuated due to heavy rains as 65 people are dead or missing with flood warnings on the Yangtze River and Pearl River amongst other rivers. (AFP)[permanent dead link]
- At least 12 police officers are killed and many more people wounded by a suicide bombing outside a police station in the town of Vavuniya in northern Sri Lanka. (BBC News) (AFP via Yahoo! News)
ITN Candidates for June 16
![Tiger Woods](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Tiger_Woods_2005.jpg/81px-Tiger_Woods_2005.jpg)
- In golf, Tiger Woods defeats Rocco Mediate in a playoff to win the 2008 U.S. Open, his 14th major victory.
The 2008 U.S. Open Golf Championship, an approved event on Wikipedia:Sports on ITN, will decided on a playoff on the 16th. I suggest the item mention both Woods and Mediate, no matter who wins. - BanyanTree 04:23, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- How's the blurb above? Support as nominator. -- Grant.Alpaugh 06:25, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- That wording seems about right. There's not really a need for support/opposition for an item here. It's already pre-approved, being listed on the sports page. - BanyanTree 06:57, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- That'll be his, not their before the ordinal number of the victory, but I'm sure the posting admin would notice that. Kevin McE (talk) 12:22, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- Woods has won it: blurb adjusted. Kevin McE (talk) 20:30, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- That'll be his, not their before the ordinal number of the victory, but I'm sure the posting admin would notice that. Kevin McE (talk) 12:22, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- That wording seems about right. There's not really a need for support/opposition for an item here. It's already pre-approved, being listed on the sports page. - BanyanTree 06:57, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- Posted. --- RockMFR 20:35, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- I suggest using a picture of Tiger Woods (above right) on ITN. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 23:24, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support A major sporting event with huge media coverage. --Ryan Delaney talk 05:22, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- Academy Award-winning special effects and makeup artist Stan Winston passes away at age 62.
- Support as nominator. The death of a man who has created/been involved with some of the greatest special effects in Hollywood, such as Terminator 2 and Jurassic Park. He arguarably was also one of the tops in his profession still, due to recent work like Iron Man. --PlasmaTwa2 22:33, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- He may be at the top of his field but "suffering for seven years with multiple myeloma" Nil Einne (talk) 04:28, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- So what, the only deaths that can make it on itn are crashes and heart attacks? --PlasmaTwa2 04:31, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- No, the death of people in high ranking office, and deaths which have a major international impact can be on ITN regardless of whether they are unexpected. However, the deaths of people at the top of their field should only be placed on WP:ITN/C if they are unexpected. Tim Russert was perhaps a bit of a borderline case, a better example would be Steve Irwin. Perhaps another example would be Diana although her death could perhaps also be seen to have a major international impact given her involvement in various campaigns. You may want to see Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Death criteria if you are still confused or don't agree with the current death criteria. Nil Einne (talk) 10:53, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- Strange would when Russert can get on it, then. Irwin's was the ultimate unexpected death. We all knew it was going to happen, we just didn't know when. --PlasmaTwa2 17:29, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- No, the death of people in high ranking office, and deaths which have a major international impact can be on ITN regardless of whether they are unexpected. However, the deaths of people at the top of their field should only be placed on WP:ITN/C if they are unexpected. Tim Russert was perhaps a bit of a borderline case, a better example would be Steve Irwin. Perhaps another example would be Diana although her death could perhaps also be seen to have a major international impact given her involvement in various campaigns. You may want to see Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Death criteria if you are still confused or don't agree with the current death criteria. Nil Einne (talk) 10:53, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- So what, the only deaths that can make it on itn are crashes and heart attacks? --PlasmaTwa2 04:31, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- He may be at the top of his field but "suffering for seven years with multiple myeloma" Nil Einne (talk) 04:28, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- No, this death is not a big enough deal to endorse posting obituaries. --Ryan Delaney talk 05:22, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
June 15
- Anjouan, an island part of the Union of the Comoros, hold its first presidential election since the 2008 invasion of Anjouan which ousted Mohamed Bacar. (AFP via Google News)
- Six members of the Kuratong baleleng Philippines crime gang, as well as a police officer are killed in a shootout with police officers in Manila. (AFP via Google News)
- August: Osage County wins the 62nd Tony Award for best play while In the Heights wins best musical. (AP via Google News)
- The American International Group (AIG), the world's largest insurance company, removes Martin J. Sullivan as its CEO due to losses caused by the subprime mortgage crisis. (Reuters)
- Tiger Woods and Rocco Mediate will play in an 18-hole playoff to determine the winner of the 2008 U.S. Open Golf Championship. (The Washington Times)
- Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr claims that he is developing a new force to fight United States forces in Iraq. (CNN)
- Afghanistan
- The President of Afghanistan Hamid Karzai warns the Taliban that he will send forces into Pakistan in hot pursuit of militants. (AP via Google News)
- More than 15 Taliban insurgents are killed as NATO and Afghan forces attempt to recapture the hundreds of prisoners who escaped following the Kandahar prison raid. (Reuters)
- The Prime Minister of Pakistan Yusuf Raza Gillani warns that Pakistan will not tolerate incursions over its borders. (BBC News)
- Heavy rain in southern China causes flooding with at least six people dead, four missing and 150,000 people evacuated from Guangdong and Guangxi provinces. (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- Japanese rescue squads resume the search for missing people after the 2008 Iwate earthquake including seven people feared buried by a mudslide at a hot springs hotel in mountains outside the town of Kurihara, Miyagi. (BBC News)
- The constitution of Kosovo comes into effect. (BBC News)
ITN Candidates for June 15
- A new constitution comes into force in Kosovo, whose February declaration of independence has been
recognised by 43 United Nations member states.
- A new constitution is arguably a more important issue than changes of govt chosen under such a constitution, so if we post changes of government, we should post substantial changes of constitution at a formative stage of a nation's history. I believe my suggested phrasing is sufficiently NPOV, but in the light of the sensitivity of the issue, it would be good to have opinions on it. Kevin McE (talk) 17:01, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support Therequiembellishere (talk) 18:06, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose, solely because Kosovo is not its own country (At least in my opinion) --PlasmaTwa2 23:09, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- My suggested phrasing deliberately acknowledged the less than universal acceptance of its independence. Kevin McE (talk) 06:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- Posted. It don't detect a bias in the suggested wording, and the controversial nature of Kosovo's political status is itself one of the things that make the item interesting. Also, 24 hours is up and this is the most reasonable candidate up. Less arguing, more updating and suggesting please. Thanks, BanyanTree 00:45, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose, solely because Kosovo is not its own country (At least in my opinion) --PlasmaTwa2 23:09, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Taiwan recalls its de facto ambassador to Japan over a Taiwanese fishing boat sank by Japanese patrol vessel in the waters of the disputed Tiaoyutais or Senkakus. Taiwan's premier Liao Chao Hsiuan promised earlier Taiwan would not rule out going to war if the captain of the boat was not released. http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/foreign%20affairs/2008/06/15/161051/Taiwan%2Drecalls.htm http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/foreign%20affairs/2008/06/14/160913/Captain%2Dof.htm China Post
- Please post this to Portal:Current events, per the procedure posted at the top of the page, and post here emboldening the link to the updated article. - BanyanTree 23:57, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Article bolded.
- OK, posted under June 16.--Pharos (talk) 01:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
June 14
- Argentine police arrest farm leader Alfredo de Angeli and 14 other farmers in an order to end the farmers strike. (Bloomberg)
- Condoleezza Rice, the United States Secretary of State, criticises a planned expansion of Israeli housing in East Jerusalem as "not helpful" to the Middle East peace process. (AP via Google News)
- The Space Shuttle Discovery lands having successfully completed mission STS-124. (Reuters) (NASA)
- The President of the United States George W. Bush and the President of France Nicolas Sarkozy warn Syria to break with Iran and state that they will not allow Iran to obtain nuclear weapons. (AFP via Google News)
- A fire breaks out at Campsfield House, a privately run Immigration detention Centre near Oxford in the United Kingdom. (BBC News)
- A roadside bomb in Farah Province of Afghanistan kills 4 United States troops. (AP via Google News) (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- The magnitude 6.8 Mw 2008 Iwate earthquake shakes Iwate and Miyagi Prefectures on Japan's main island of Honshū, killing at least 6 people and injuring at least 8 others.(BBC News) (AFP via News Limited) (AP via Forbes)
- The French Defense Ministry announces France is increasing its military presence in Djibouti following border clashes with Eritrea. France has a mutual defense agreement with Djibouti. (Xinhua)
ITN Candidates for June 14
![Esbjörn Svensson](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Esbj%C3%B6rn_Svensson.jpg/100px-Esbj%C3%B6rn_Svensson.jpg)
- Swedish jazz star pianist Esbjörn Svensson (pictured) dies tragically in a diving accident off a small island near Stockholm. Hapsala (talk) 20:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate: The magnitude 7.0 2008 Iwate Earthquake shakes Iwate and Miyagi Prefectures on Japan's main island of Honshū, killing at least 2 people and injuring at least 8 others. SpencerT♦C 15:12, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support. I suggest: A magnitude 7.0 earthquake shakes Iwate and Miyagi Prefectures on Japan's main island of Honshū. Thue | talk 18:39, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, but we've used the moment magnitude scale in the past, so how about: A magnitude 6.8 Mw earthquake shakes Iwate and Miyagi Prefectures on the Japanese island of Honshū. (6.8 is the magnitude on this scale).SpencerT♦C 19:40, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Posted. Thanks, BanyanTree 00:10, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Hi. Um, how about: "A magnitude 6.8 Mw earthquake occurs in the Iwate and Miyagi Prefectures on the main island of Honshū in Japan", for gramatical and tone-neutrality consistency, or at the very least add a "the" between "shakes" and "Iwate"? Thanks. ~AH1(TCU) 00:58, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Iwate Prefecture and Miyagi Prefecture are proper nouns so don't need the "the". The sentence could also be written "A magnitude 7.0 earthquake shakes the Iwate and Miyagi prefectures on Japan's main island of Honshū," but I don't see the need for a "the" in the current version. Similarly, the template currently states "a tornado hits a Boy Scout camp in Iowa", rather than "a tornado hits a Boy Scout camp in the state of Iowa". Am I missing something grammatically? - BanyanTree 01:11, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Hi. Um, how about: "A magnitude 6.8 Mw earthquake occurs in the Iwate and Miyagi Prefectures on the main island of Honshū in Japan", for gramatical and tone-neutrality consistency, or at the very least add a "the" between "shakes" and "Iwate"? Thanks. ~AH1(TCU) 00:58, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Posted. Thanks, BanyanTree 00:10, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, but we've used the moment magnitude scale in the past, so how about: A magnitude 6.8 Mw earthquake shakes Iwate and Miyagi Prefectures on the Japanese island of Honshū. (6.8 is the magnitude on this scale).SpencerT♦C 19:40, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
June 13
- The Chamber of Deputies of Haiti rejects Robert Manuel, who was the second nominee for the post of prime minister after Jacques-Édouard Alexis resigned in April 2008. (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- A Taliban attack on a prison in Kandahar, Afghanistan allows almost all of the 1150 inmates to escape, including 390 Taliban inmates. (AP via Google News) (Reuters)
- A Zimbabwe judge orders the police to bring Tendai Biti, the arrested Secretary-General of the Movement for Democratic Change to court on Saturday. (Zimbabwe Guardian via All Africa)
- Kim Jong-hoon, the South Korean Minister for Trade, heads to the United States to push for additional safeguards against mad cow disease in talks with Susan Schwab, the United States Trade Representative as protests continue in South Korea over the decision to resume importing beef from the United States. (VOA)
- June 2008 Midwest United States floods:
- The Governor of Iowa Chet Culver declares that 83 of the 99 counties in Iowa are disaster areas as flooding leads to evacuations in Cedar Rapids and Des Moines. (AP via Forbes)
- The upper Mississippi River is closed to shipping as three people die in Indiana and three in Iowa. (Reuters)
- Nouri al-Maliki, the Prime Minister of Iraq, states talks with the United States on a long-term security agreement have reached "a dead end". (AP via The International Herald Tribune)
- A hydrogen sulfide leak at a fertiliser plant in Kunming, capital of Yunnan Province in China, kills six people and injures 28. (AFP via ABC News Australia)
- At least 40 people are injured on Sagar Island in the Ganges delta in clashes between supporters of the Hindu nationalist Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh and local Muslim villagers. (BBC News)
- Finance ministers from the Group of Eight meet in Osaka, Japan with rising food and oil prices high on the Agenda. (AFP)[permanent dead link]
- Pakistani lawyers hold a protest rally in Islamabad to demand the reinstatement of judges sacked by the President of Pakistan Pervez Musharraf. (BBC News)
- The People's Republic of China and Taiwan agree to regular civil aviation flights across the Taiwan Strait for the first time since 1949 with flights limited to weekend charters. (Reuters via The Guardian)
- Irish voters reject the Treaty of Lisbon in a referendum, thus putting into question the reform programme of the European Union. (RTÉ)
- The Station nightclub fire: Sealed Air pay a US$25 million settlement for manufacturing foam used in the club. 100 people died in the disaster. (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link] (Wikinews)
- American political news reporter Tim Russert dies after collapsing at the NBC Washington D.C. Bureau offices where he worked. (AP)
ITN Candidates for June 13
- Irish voters reject the Treaty of Lisbon in a referendum, thus putting into question the reform programme of the European Union.
- Significant implications for 25 nations. Two ministers of state have effectively admitted that the proposal has been rejected by the people. Kevin McE (talk) 12:58, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- Definitely will be at the top of ITN soon: do we want to wait a few hours till the result is official or go now that Dermot Ahern has conceded defeat? --jnestorius(talk) 13:31, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- Only one constituency still to declare, and even a 100% yes vote there would not tip the balance[2]. It is now mathematically certain, by published figures, that the result will be No. Kevin McE (talk) 16:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- Official announcement has been given... now Kevin McE (talk) 16:13, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- 27 nations, not 25, will be affected (Romania and Bulgaria joined over 18 months ago...) 217.44.234.105 (talk) 17:31, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- This is huge news. Why isn't it up yet? DJLayton4 (talk) 18:04, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- 27 nations, not 25, will be affected (Romania and Bulgaria joined over 18 months ago...) 217.44.234.105 (talk) 17:31, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- Official announcement has been given... now Kevin McE (talk) 16:13, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- Only one constituency still to declare, and even a 100% yes vote there would not tip the balance[2]. It is now mathematically certain, by published figures, that the result will be No. Kevin McE (talk) 16:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- Definitely will be at the top of ITN soon: do we want to wait a few hours till the result is official or go now that Dermot Ahern has conceded defeat? --jnestorius(talk) 13:31, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support.--Avala (talk) 17:52, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- Added. Thue | talk 18:44, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- NBC's Tim Russert dies suddenly of a heart attack at the age of 58.
- Russert was at the top of his profession and his unexpected death has dominated news coverage in the United States. If that doesn't meet the ITN death criteria, I don't know what does. Support as nominator. -- Grant.Alpaugh 21:11, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose While certainly a preeminent journalist in the US, and although his death was certainly unexpected, i must oppose this on the grounds that his death will not have a great effect on either journalism in the United States or the politics he covered so extensively. Thethinredline (talk) 22:48, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support. As the longtime host of the longest-running television show in the world, Russert was indeed an important figure in both journalism and politics. His death impacts both areas significantly. Lovelac7 23:02, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose largely unheard of outside the US. --Stephen 00:18, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support I am not American but an Israeli living in Israel - yet I believe this event is of worldwide significance. For example, it was the top headling at the BBC World news, and it is reported on Israel's radio news (it was too late for today TV News) and internet news sites. As one of the most important American journalist, Tim Russert was known worldwide, and in recent years could be watched outside Norht America (both through MSNBC on the web, and CNBC on TV). Personally, I will deeply miss him. eman (talk) 01:08, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose per Stephen. Currently not in the top 9 non-UK stories on the BBC: only 3rd on the Americas section (behind R Kelly and flooding). The international interest criteria seems to have been written out of the criteria page as part of the overhaul to present new procedures with little or no discussion. Kevin McE (talk) 08:33, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support Whether or not his death has international impact is debatable, but the national impact is certain. No matter what criteria for a death making ITN one believes in, I believe that Russert makes it- he was the preeminent person in his (very important, very public) field, and his death was amazingly unexpected. Though I have no evidence to back this up, I think his death will have a larger effect on US journalism than Thethinredline does.
- Also note that I would make the blurb something along the lines of Journalist Tim Russert, host of NBC's Meet the Press, dies at age 58., perhaps (or perhaps not) mentioning the cause of death. -- a not-signed-in Kicking222 01:23, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose, mainly because his death is way less notable than many others that have not gone up. Last week it was Yves Saint Laurent, for example. It's not as though a heart attack is some crazy unexpected way to die young either. Plenty of 58-year-olds die of heart attacks, so if one was to oppose Yves Saint Laurent because he was old and expected to die, I don't really see a difference there. Mangostar (talk) 03:43, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Rebuttal. Past precedent is the biggest obstacle to ITN reform. Several editors, including myself, are trying to broaden the death criteria for ITN. However, whenever a notable death occurs, another editor always brings up the "we didn't post so-and-so's death, so we shouldn't post this one either." This argument is flawed. Yes, there were some very important figures whose deaths weren't listed (Saint Laurent, Clarke, Ledger, et al.), but the only way we're going to change this is to Be bold and ignore the mistakes of the past. Lovelac7 04:36, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Comment I don't personally know whether your comment add much to the discussion. Whether or not the death criteria needs reform, it doesn't appear to me like this case is a good example of it. Russert is completely different from Saint Laurent and Clarke who's deaths could hardly be classified as unexpected. Ledger was hardly on the top of his field, unlike Russert appears to be. If you want to argue that it's dumb we may put up Russert but we didn't put up Saint Laurent and Clarke, then go ahead, but that doesn't appear to be your argument Nil Einne (talk) 11:20, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Rebuttal. Past precedent is the biggest obstacle to ITN reform. Several editors, including myself, are trying to broaden the death criteria for ITN. However, whenever a notable death occurs, another editor always brings up the "we didn't post so-and-so's death, so we shouldn't post this one either." This argument is flawed. Yes, there were some very important figures whose deaths weren't listed (Saint Laurent, Clarke, Ledger, et al.), but the only way we're going to change this is to Be bold and ignore the mistakes of the past. Lovelac7 04:36, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Weak support I don't think it's helpful to bring Saint Laurent, Edmund Hillary, Pavarotti, Arthur C. Clarke, etc into the discussion. Given their age and/or previous medical history, their deaths could hardly be classified as unexpected which was why they were rejected. From the sound of it, Tim Russert's death although perhaps not an extreme shock can still be mostly classified as unexpected. Whether or not they aforementioned people are 'more important' then Russert is therefore completely irrelevant and dumb to even consider. Heath Ledger is a different case. His death was quite clearly unexpected but he was hardly the most noteable of actors (i.e. he was not at the top of his field), and was rejected for this reason. From a brief read through of the above discussion and the article, it appears Russert is probably close to being the top of his field. The article also appears to have a substanial update (although the updated part clearly needs work). Nil Einne (talk) 11:20, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support. Ordinarily, this should be a no, but from what I have seen, ITN has been flooded with items that have been more parochial in nature recently. I don't see why this one should be any different. (Weren't we supposed to refrain from supports and opposes? Or is that now allowed again?) MookieZ (talk) 12:32, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support GlassCobra 13:36, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Let's try to refrain from hit and run votes. SpencerT♦C 15:14, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support This was a sudden death of a person who was the host of the longest running TV show...this clearly qualifies as the sudden death of a person at the top of their field. Meets criteria b. SpencerT♦C 15:14, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Added. -- tariqabjotu 19:48, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- It has since been removed by one of the much maligned "hit-and-run" admins who do not habitually check itn/c. Could someone perhaps put it back on since it seems to have consensus here? Thanks. Random89 20:57, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Also, there is a fairly significant update about his death, which happened while in the midst of conducting his everyday work. Random89 20:59, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- I think this is ridiculous, there is no way this man's death is of international significance or great importance. --78.151.119.228 (talk) 21:15, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - I wish to publicly apologize for my swift deletion of this news item. However, at the risk of courting controversy, I wish to also point out that I believe nowhere on Wikipedia does 60% of net Support votes (six support, four oppose) equal consensus. That coupled with my own judgment, which may at the time have been swift, but which I took to the level of believing that no consensus existed to promote this item. Maybe this is one of those many times when my swift first judgment was the incorrect one to make. Thank you for letting me vent, and I apologize for any inconvenience caused. Bobo. 02:20, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- If only that same attitude was taken with admins who place items on the template without so much as floating the idea on this page. But then again I guess that would burst the bubble that they are not super users... -- Grant.Alpaugh 02:34, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Also, please keep in mind (I know you're an admin, but still) that voting means nothing as far as consensus goes. Arguments are what matters. If 100 people vote against something without providing any justification, all it takes is one justified support for the item to have a "consensus" to support, at least strictly speaking. -- Grant.Alpaugh 02:39, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- (ec)One of the ideas introduced in the recent reform to keep ITN from stagnating, like it has historically, was to introduce a bias for inclusion. To be specific, only lack of consensus keeps items from being posted, and 'no consensus'-items may be posted. These are still early days and all the tradeoffs remain to be seen, but certainly one of them will be that more items that are considered marginal will get posted. The recommended response is not removal, but suggesting/posting items to rotate the offending item off faster. - BanyanTree 03:06, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- In response to Grant's last post, this is precisely one of these occasions where admins have great trouble determining what is a "good" non-biased argument, and tend to look for a process-oriented solution. Vote counting is certainly the most obvious process, but it's only valid as long as there is a decent body of arguments to weigh. I certainly would post something like this based on a nom only if I really enjoyed multiple users yelling at me. - BanyanTree 03:06, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Right, but that was never the case. There was always a decent number of people supporting the inclusion. -- Grant.Alpaugh 03:18, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- In response to Grant's last post, this is precisely one of these occasions where admins have great trouble determining what is a "good" non-biased argument, and tend to look for a process-oriented solution. Vote counting is certainly the most obvious process, but it's only valid as long as there is a decent body of arguments to weigh. I certainly would post something like this based on a nom only if I really enjoyed multiple users yelling at me. - BanyanTree 03:06, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - I wish to publicly apologize for my swift deletion of this news item. However, at the risk of courting controversy, I wish to also point out that I believe nowhere on Wikipedia does 60% of net Support votes (six support, four oppose) equal consensus. That coupled with my own judgment, which may at the time have been swift, but which I took to the level of believing that no consensus existed to promote this item. Maybe this is one of those many times when my swift first judgment was the incorrect one to make. Thank you for letting me vent, and I apologize for any inconvenience caused. Bobo. 02:20, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support Perhaps the most important US broadcast journalist, and still very active - certainly among the most respected. As long as this is English Wikipedia and national politics in the US is of global interest, the death of such an important US political journalist is noteworthy. Slrubenstein | Talk 12:15, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Strongly oppose including this, just as I would have opposed including Richard Carleton. If this was O'Reilly, maybe, because he has an internation reputation. I don't think that Russert has a worldwide significance to merit ITN inclusion. Daniel (talk) 13:53, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Richard Carleton's death can hardly be described as unexpected, definitely no where near to the degree of Russert. With a publicly known pre-existing heart condition and prostaste cancer, plus being 4 years older (given that Russert was starting to get close to the age where it's not really that unexpected). And the current ITN death criteria makes no mentioned of 'worldwide signifance'. (For that matter, ITN has NEVER mentioned anything about worldwide significance.) The specific criteria we are discussing is the old 5b here since we never really reached consensus on a reformed criteria, and in any case AFAIK all reformed criteria proposed were intended to be more 'liberal' then the existing ones, and all it says is "the deceased was a key figure in their field of expertise, and died unexpectedly or tragically". While Russert may be a bit borderline on the unexpected part, I think considering the various factors, it falls on the side of unexpected (heck they even did an autopsy.) Nil Einne (talk) 15:17, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support This is a very big deal and the media coverage is enormous. --Ryan Delaney talk 05:23, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- Strongly oppose It's a joke that Russert's (who was he?) untimely death was included, but certainly not surprising. This is proof of the merkincenric nature of this website. Perhaps Wikipedia should be renaled Merkinpedia.
June 12
- Wildfires in northern California lead to the evacuation of residents in Paradise, California and Bonny Doon, California. (AP via The Guardian)
- Ecuadorean police arrest four men including three Colombians on suspicion of plotting an assassination of the President of Ecuador Rafael Correa. (AP via International Herald Tribune)
- Tendai Biti, the Secretary of the Movement for Democratic Change in Zimbabwe, is arrested in Harare. (AFP and ABC News Australia)
- Four thousand homes in Cedar Rapids, Iowa are evacuated as the Cedar River floods due to heavy rain in recent days. (CNN)
- David Davis, the Conservative Shadow Home Secretary resigns as the Member of Parliament for Haltemprice and Howden in order to contest the Haltemprice and Howden by-election, 2008 on civil liberties issues. (The Times)
- The Salmonella outbreak in the United States caused by tainted tomatoes continues to worsen with 228 victims in 23 states. (Bloomberg)
- The United States Secretary of Defense Robert Gates invites Pakistan and Afghanistan to participate in an investigation of the Gora Prai airstrike. (AP via Forbes)
- Cuban hurdler Dayron Robles sets a world record of 12.87 seconds for the 110 metre hurdles at a Golden Spike meet in Ostrava, Czech Republic. (Associated Press)
- More than 80 countries and international aid organisations meet in Paris to develop a strategy for delivering billions of dollars in aid to Afghanistan. (AFP via The Australian)
- The People's Republic of China and Taiwan begin their first formal talks in a decade on improving cross-strait relations. (AFP)[permanent dead link]
- Irish voters go to the polls for the Twenty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution of Ireland to enable ratification of the Treaty of Lisbon of the European Union. (RTÉ)
- In Boumediene v. Bush, the U.S. Supreme Court holds that foreign terrorism suspects held at Guantánamo Bay have constitutional rights to challenge their detention there in US courts. (The New York Times)
- Washington Capitals forward Alexander Ovechkin wins the Hart Memorial Trophy as most valuable player for the National Hockey League 2007-2008 season as well as the Art Ross Trophy for most points and the Rocket Richard Trophy for top goal scorer. (TSN)
- Bill C-61, An Act to amend the Copyright Act, is tabled in the second session of the 39th Canadian Parliament by Minister of Industry Jim Prentice, in efforts to better comply to the WIPO treaty. (CBC News)
ITN Candidates for June 12
Nom Cross-Strait relations item. - BanyanTree 08:39, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Please only use the bullets for blurb wordings so that they stick out from the discussion. -- Grant.Alpaugh 15:32, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- The article needs some updating. Otherwise, a fair candidate. --Tone 09:00, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- I actually think the section "Inter-government" is the most informative update I've seen recently. However, it does perhaps need more refs, now that I take another look... - BanyanTree 11:54, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Even if the article's good, it has a weak support from me...because I'd like to hear about the results of those formal talks. SpencerT♦C 14:21, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Posted.--Pharos (talk) 23:13, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Even if the article's good, it has a weak support from me...because I'd like to hear about the results of those formal talks. SpencerT♦C 14:21, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- I actually think the section "Inter-government" is the most informative update I've seen recently. However, it does perhaps need more refs, now that I take another look... - BanyanTree 11:54, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Is there an article about the Irish voting? SpencerT♦C 14:21, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Nom Irish referendum item. Anxietycello (talk) 14:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Please only use the bullets for blurb wordings so that they stick out from the discussion. -- Grant.Alpaugh 15:32, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support when the result is known. However, if positive, it may be more reasonable to wait until all the countries ratify the Lisbon treaty. If negative, put it on straight forward. --Tone 15:04, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- While ITN tries to avoid "mid-process" items, this seems to be significant enough to merit some attention. I would be more supportive if it was worded to point out that this is the only country that has to ratify by popular referendum, rather than legislative vote. - BanyanTree 22:32, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Nom Boumediene v. Bush item. This is a landmark decision, the New York Times called it "historic". ––Bender235 (talk) 18:25, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Note: Decision mentioned in a single sentence. SpencerT♦C 22:12, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, hopefully one of the editors specializing in Supreme Court cases will get to this in time for ITN. Though we'll take updates from anyone. ;) - BanyanTree 22:32, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, it appears that the lead has a nice big update, which has one reference. Also, I would prefer not to bold-link an article with a big yellow tag on the top, as well as an orange one in the body, though that's more peripheral to a decision. I have posted on the talk there asking folks to add more refs. - BanyanTree 02:10, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- Ugh, re-evaluated and it's become less structured as time has gone by. - BanyanTree 00:28, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- Second that. It's the classic story: Guy meets American soldiers, soldiers kidnap guy, guys sues the President and wins. President too ignorant to find out. Guy and President live happily ever after. Potatoswatter (talk) 22:41, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Please do not use ITN/C for personal/political commentary and focus your comments on the the degree to which the article has been updated, as well as the perceived significance of the item. - BanyanTree 00:00, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
The floods in the Midwest, especially in Iowa, are a pretty big story at the moment. --- RockMFR 14:42, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- Flooding continues in the Midwestern United States, with evacuations of thousands of homes.
- Support the article seems good. SpencerT♦C 15:17, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
June 11
- Kosovo adopts a national anthem named "Europe"; composed by Mendi Menxhiqi, it comes without lyrics in any language to avoid offending the newly independent state's Serbian minority. (International Herald Tribune) (B-92)
- The United States Food and Drug Administration has received 167 reported incidents of Salmonellosis from eating tainted tomatoes in 17 states with New Mexico and Texas the worst affected areas. (Reuters)
- NASA launches the Gamma-ray Large Area Space Telescope (GLAST) from Cape Canaveral, Florida. (AP via Google News)
- June 2008 tornado outbreak sequence: A tornado at the Little Sioux Scout Ranch near Little Sioux, Iowa kills four Boy Scouts and injures several others. (Des Moines Register) (AP via Yahoo! News) (Atlanta Journal-Constitution) (National Public Radio)
- Cuba introduces a wages system where workers are paid according to productivity rather than all workers in the same job receiving the same income. (Miami Herald)
- The Prime Minister of Canada Stephen Harper apologises to tens of thousands of the indigenous peoples of Canada for more than a century of abuses of First Nations, Inuit and Métis at residential schools set up to assimilate them into Canadian society. (SBS)[permanent dead link] (AP via Yahoo! News)
- The United States House of Representatives votes today on whether to refer Articles of Impeachment against George W. Bush introduced Monday evening by Rep. Dennis Kucinich to a committee. (The Washington Post)
- InBev, the world's largest brewing company makes an unsolicited $46 billion takeover bid for United States brewing company Anheuser-Busch. (AFP via Google News)
- Estonia, Greece and Finland ratify the Treaty of Lisbon. (Xinhua) (The International Herald Tribune)
- Norway legalises same-sex marriage. (Pink News)
- The last King of Nepal Gyanendra of Nepal departs from Narayanhiti Palace for the last time after Nepal is declared to be a republic. (CBC)
- The Metropolitan Police launches an inquiry after top secret British government intelligence on al-Qaeda is found on a train going from Waterloo Station to Surrey. (BBC News)
- Sheikh Hasina, a former Prime Minister of Bangladesh detained on corruption charges, is released to seek treatment in the United States. (Bloomberg)
- Stojan Župljanin, a wartime Bosnian Serb police commander is arrested near Belgrade and will be sent to the Hague where he will face trial for alleged war crimes. (Reuters via TVNZ)
- Former basketball referee Tim Donaghy accuses other referees in the National Basketball Association of rigging games, including Game 6 in the 2002 Western Conference Finals, allowing the Los Angeles Lakers to win that game, the series, and ultimately the 2002 NBA Finals. (ESPN)
- President George W. Bush says that he wants to solve the Iran issue peacefully but "all options are on the table" in a joint media conference with the Chancellor of Germany Angela Merkel. (Reuters)
- The British House of Commons considers anti-terrorism legislation extending the period of preventive detention to 42 days with a close vote expected due to a backbench revolt in the Labour Party. The House eventually passes the bill by 315 votes to 306. (Press Association via Google News) (Press Association via The Guardian)
- Japan's House of Councillors passes a censure motion against the Prime Minister of Japan Yasuo Fukuda, the first such motion to be passed since World War II. (BBC News)
- Afghanistan:
- Airstrikes targeting militants have killed at least 31 people including some civilians. (AP via Google News)[permanent dead link]
- Reports claim that at least 10 Pakistan Army soldiers have died in an apparent United States-led air strike near the border with Afghanistan with eight Taliban militants also killed. Pakistan condemns the airstrike as "unprovoked and cowardly". The U.S. has released video of the strike showing the militants fighting in order to justify the attacks. (BBC News) (Reuters)
- Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam rebels overrun the Irukkulampiddi Sri Lankan Navy outpost killing at least 10 sailors. (AFP via Google News)
- Taiwanese negotiators led by Chiang Pin-kung, Chairman of the Strait Exchange Foundation, travel to the People's Republic of China to conduct talks on improving Cross-Strait relations. (BBC News) (AP via Yahoo! News)
ITN Candidates for June 11
I'd support the LTTE item, but LTTE is protected as of now because of a dispute, and it really shouldn't be at Sri Lanka Navy. (And it's not). SpencerT♦C 10:53, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I would be OK with most items on the Current events portal if they had decent updates. - BanyanTree 12:48, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
- Japan's House of Councillors passes a censure motion against Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda, the first such motion to be passed since World War II.
Decent update and historic import. It will also push the Ainu item off, so there won't be three Japan items on at the same time. - BanyanTree 13:09, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
- No comments? Posted. - BanyanTree 22:30, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
The Gora Prai airstrike story is a headline in all news sites --TheFEARgod (Ч) 19:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
- Its article looks pretty bad, and needs some serious cleanup before I would consider it. SpencerT♦C 19:19, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
- Um, what "all news sites" are you referring to? No apparent mention on CNN, BBC or CBC, and that was just a quick check. The Tom (talk) 19:23, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
- Currently #2 on BBC and the "photo item" on The Washington Post. Still, I agree with Spencer's assessment. BanyanTree 22:20, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
- Item has been greatly expanded since I last checked. Does anyone have a suggested wording? The wording of the portal item appears messy. - BanyanTree 01:30, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Can you clarify? --→ Ãlways Ãhëad (talk) 04:01, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- I wanted to see if anyone had a suggested wording for the item to be put on ITN. There's doesn't seem to be, so I have come up with some wording and posted. Thanks, BanyanTree 04:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Can you clarify? --→ Ãlways Ãhëad (talk) 04:01, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Note that the tornado strike on a Boy Scout strike in the US appears to be attracting attention. An update has begun at June 2008 tornado outbreak sequence and may be ITN quality in the near future. - BanyanTree 03:10, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- One of a series of tornadoes hits a Boy Scout camp in western Iowa, resulting in at least four deaths.
- Note that, despite nominating, I think that this is less impactful that the Pakistani airstrike and would suggest placing it under that item, assuming that people are supportive of posting. - BanyanTree 04:39, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Modify - updated article is now Little Sioux Scout Ranch - BanyanTree 09:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not big on the wording...it sounds like multiple tornados hit the same boy scout camp...I was under the impression that it was over a big area and the boy scouts got hit by one of the tornados. SpencerT♦C 14:23, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- You're right. I reworded and posted. - BanyanTree 22:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not big on the wording...it sounds like multiple tornados hit the same boy scout camp...I was under the impression that it was over a big area and the boy scouts got hit by one of the tornados. SpencerT♦C 14:23, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Modify - updated article is now Little Sioux Scout Ranch - BanyanTree 09:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
June 10
- Two Kenyan ministers – Roads Minister Kipkalya Kones and Assistant Home Affairs Minister Lorna Laboso – die in a plane crash near Narok in western Kenya while traveling to campaign in by-elections. (BBC News)
- President of Venezuela Hugo Chávez revokes an intelligence law that opposition groups and the Roman Catholic church claim would have forced citizens to become government informants and asks the National Assembly to develop new legislation. (Bloomberg)
- A Moroccan court sentences 29 people to prison sentences for recruiting people to fight for militants in Iraq. (Reuters)
- President George W. Bush attends the final United States-European Union summit of his Presidency with agreements to tighten sanctions against Iran for its nuclear program. (AP via Google News)
- United States Republican senators block moves to levy a windfall profits tax on oil companies. (MarketWatch)
- Water from the Tangjiashan Lake, created in the 2008 Sichuan earthquake, floods the abandoned town of Beichuan. (Reuters)
- South Korea's cabinet, led by Prime Minister Han Seung-soo, offers to resign following widespread protests at decisions to resume US beef imports in South Korea. (BBC News) (CNN)
- Sudan Airways Flight 109 crashes on landing at Khartoum International Airport in Khartoum, Sudan, with around 200 on board. The death toll is 28 with 66 people unaccounted for.(CNN) (BBC News) (AFP/Reuters via ABC News)
- A series of strong thunderstorms track through Southern Quebec, causing heavy damage south of Montreal and leaving over 250,000 people out of electricity. Champlain Bridge is closed for several hours after a wind gust causes seven semi-trailers to tip on their side. (CBC) (SRC)
ITN Candidates for June 10
- Sudan Airways Flight 109 crashes on landing at Khartoum International Airport in Khartoum, Sudan, with around 200 on board. At least 100 people are estimated to have died.
- Support as nominator. Anonymous101 (talk) 20:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose as article creator; the flight number isn't even confirmed yet (that's a bit of minor original research on my part, but right now it's the only one that fits) and the article consists of a paragraph and a quote. It's not nearly ready for front page yet, I don't think. --Golbez (talk) 20:34, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- Weak support, definately is notable enough to be on the news section, but it doesn't have an article that covers it well enough. bsrboy (talk) 21:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose, as article is short, gives little information on the crash, and doesn't have fully formatted citations. BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 21:39, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- It appears to me that the issues raised have been addressed in the past several hours. Can I ask commenters to revisit the item? Thanks, BanyanTree 06:28, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
- OK, the timer's gone yellow, this is the only viable candidate, nobody has commented and the issues raised appear to be addressed. Posted. - BanyanTree 13:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
- It appears to me that the issues raised have been addressed in the past several hours. Can I ask commenters to revisit the item? Thanks, BanyanTree 06:28, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
- Following widespread protests against the resumption of beef imports from the United States, the Prime Minister of South Korea Han Seung-soo and his cabinet offer to resign.
- Support as nominator (at least if/when the article is updated). -- Grant.Alpaugh 05:12, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support when (if) they actually resign. --Tone 08:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- Note: Article not updated. SpencerT♦C 10:52, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support When resignation happens. Hobartimus (talk) 15:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- Ditto When resignation occurs. BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 15:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- Again, no update. It might be a good idea not to formally nominate items that don't have any associated update. - BanyanTree 21:50, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- Disagree, it is a bad idea to post items that have not been nominated, while nominating items might get people involved in updating the related articles. -- Grant.Alpaugh 15:15, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not convinced that ITN nominations channel editors to potential items, but I'm willing to be convinced. - BanyanTree 03:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Disagree, it is a bad idea to post items that have not been nominated, while nominating items might get people involved in updating the related articles. -- Grant.Alpaugh 15:15, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
- Again, no update. It might be a good idea not to formally nominate items that don't have any associated update. - BanyanTree 21:50, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Chinese dam breach is an ITN-worthy story as well, I think. Updated and sourced article, great impact as one of the earthquake consequences. --Tone 08:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- Please only use the * for blurb wordings so that we can keep them seperate from the discussion. -- Grant.Alpaugh 18:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- I've been looking for Sichuan earthquake blurb, but the info on the most recent developments at Tangjiashan Lake (I assume you mean that to be the emboldened link) is a bit fuzzy - e.g. only one sentence on the new sluice channel and very little detail on the engineering effort. Also, Beichuan is not a town, though Reuters apparently can't figure that out. - BanyanTree 11:28, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- The town (whatever that is) is evacuated not abandoned. There were still people living there at the time of the quake. Abandoned implies it is the remains of one of those towns relocated when they built the dam. --Lemmey talk 12:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- "when they built the dam" betrays the fact that you have not read the article or the Reuters link. Kevin McE (talk) 17:56, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- I have read both, Thankyou Mr Quoteman. Obviously, I was talking about the 3 gorges dam. If a betrayl exists here, it does not lie in my words. --Lemmey talk 18:21, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- Of course. Very remiss of me not to guess that you were referring to a different construction, more than 400 miles away, on a different river, that was not referred to in either the article or the link. As you say, obvious if I had thought about it. Kevin McE (talk) 19:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- Its the same river system and its upstream, exactly in the area where over a million people were moved from to make way for the lake. Leave it to Kevin to twist a wording suggestion into a personal attack. --Lemmey talk 19:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- You two play nice or I'll send you to bed without any supper. - BanyanTree 21:50, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- I side with Lemmey as he's at least entertaining. -- Grant.Alpaugh 23:56, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- You two play nice or I'll send you to bed without any supper. - BanyanTree 21:50, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- Its the same river system and its upstream, exactly in the area where over a million people were moved from to make way for the lake. Leave it to Kevin to twist a wording suggestion into a personal attack. --Lemmey talk 19:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- Of course. Very remiss of me not to guess that you were referring to a different construction, more than 400 miles away, on a different river, that was not referred to in either the article or the link. As you say, obvious if I had thought about it. Kevin McE (talk) 19:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- I have read both, Thankyou Mr Quoteman. Obviously, I was talking about the 3 gorges dam. If a betrayl exists here, it does not lie in my words. --Lemmey talk 18:21, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- "when they built the dam" betrays the fact that you have not read the article or the Reuters link. Kevin McE (talk) 17:56, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- The town (whatever that is) is evacuated not abandoned. There were still people living there at the time of the quake. Abandoned implies it is the remains of one of those towns relocated when they built the dam. --Lemmey talk 12:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
June 9
- French foreign minister Bernard Kouchner warns Ireland, saying the Irish would be the "first victim" if they reject the EU Treaty of Lisbon. (RTL France)
- June 2008 Midwest Flood: A stalled storm system in the midwest of the United States causes further heavy flooding in Indiana, Iowa and Wisconsin with storms on the weekend causing 10 deaths in four states. (The New York Times)
- Pakistan lawyers begin a "Long March" of protests against the Government of the President of Pakistan Pervez Musharraf calling for the reinstatement of judges dismissed last year including the former Chief Justice of Pakistan Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry. (The Guardian)
- 24 miners are rescued from the Ukrainian coal mine collapse with 12 still missing and one reported fatality. (Reuters)
- A further three British Conservative MEPs (Robert Atkins, Sajjad Karim, and John Purvis) are facing allegations of financial abuse, following the resignation of two fellow members from European Parliament positions last week. (The Independent) (The Daily Telegraph) (The Times) (The Courier)
- Ali Al-Naimi, the Saudi Arabian oil minister calls for a meeting of oil producing and consuming nations to discuss record oil prices. (AP via ABC News)
- Apple, Inc. introduces a new iPhone with 3G capabilities, a GPS, and new features. The device is called iPhone 3G. (Business Week)
- IBM and Los Alamos National Laboratory break processing speed barrier with the world's first petaflop computer, Roadrunner. (Network World)
- The body of businessman Travis Alexander is found in his home in Mesa, Arizona. It is believed he was murdered. [http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/06/13/20080613mr-victim0614.html
ITN Candidates for June 9
- IBM, Los Alamos break processing speed barrier with world's first petaflop computer.(Network World)
- nominate & support: seems to be clearly news worthy. --Imagemonth (talk) 19:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Is there an updated article that could be bold-linked? This seems important, but I would like to see an article with citations to show this. Random89 20:14, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- It appears to be FLOPS, which has one updated sentence. This would need more updated content before I would post it. - BanyanTree 22:05, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, I just realized it's IBM Roadrunner. That's in better shape but it could still do with a few more citations. What do folks think? - BanyanTree 03:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- I like it, especially since it has its own Wikipedia article. Not exactly "big news" but certainly "in the news" and the article is already more informative than any of the news coverage I had seen of this. Dragons flight (talk) 03:39, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- strong support a cursory look at google news will illustrate that it is newsworthy and international in scope. Definitely deserves front page mention, in the above edited version (which links the IBM roadrunner article). --Steve Johnsenson (talk) 04:41, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- Posted. The article has gained quite a few more citations than it had before. - BanyanTree 11:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- strong support a cursory look at google news will illustrate that it is newsworthy and international in scope. Definitely deserves front page mention, in the above edited version (which links the IBM roadrunner article). --Steve Johnsenson (talk) 04:41, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- I like it, especially since it has its own Wikipedia article. Not exactly "big news" but certainly "in the news" and the article is already more informative than any of the news coverage I had seen of this. Dragons flight (talk) 03:39, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- Is there an updated article that could be bold-linked? This seems important, but I would like to see an article with citations to show this. Random89 20:14, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Following a coal mine collapse in the Donetsk region of Ukraine, 24 miners are rescued with 12 still missing and one reported death.
- Nominate Ukraine mine one; some good news, a little bad, and in Eastern Europe, for some balance. BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 20:11, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- The article one the collapse is currently only 2 paragraphs long (but quite well sourced). A bit of expansion would be nice, but I suppose this could go up as is if needed. Random89 20:15, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'll try and work on it. BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 20:40, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support. -- Grant.Alpaugh 23:45, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- The article looks decent...though as usual, picture are good (but the chances are slim). Weak, Weak Support...only one miner was killed and 13 went missing: Generally this isn't a big mine accident. I only support because it has its own article. SpencerT♦C 23:56, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support. -- Grant.Alpaugh 23:45, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support as mine safety is more encyclopedic than a stabbing spree. --Lemmey talk 00:30, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'll try and work on it. BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 20:40, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Posted. Thanks, BanyanTree 00:44, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- The article one the collapse is currently only 2 paragraphs long (but quite well sourced). A bit of expansion would be nice, but I suppose this could go up as is if needed. Random89 20:15, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/2008_Ukraine_mine_collapse.jpg/100px-2008_Ukraine_mine_collapse.jpg)
- No, thank you. BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 00:56, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
June 8
- Two bombs explode at a train station near Algiers, Algeria, killing at least 12 people. (BBC News)
- A fire sweeps through the historic Texas Governor's Mansion, leaving much of the 152-year-old building charred and severely damaged. (AP via Google News)
- A dispute between Southern Sudan and the central Sudanese government over Abyei will go to international arbitration. (BBC)
- Robert Kubica of the BMW Sauber team wins the 2008 Canadian Grand Prix, becoming the first Pole to win a Formula One Grand Prix auto race, and giving BMW its first win as a constructor. (F1-live) (Formula1) (Wikinews)
- At least two people have been killed as an earthquake rocked southern Greece, collapsing buildings and causing panic. (CNN)
- The government of Southern Sudan withdraws its mediation efforts at the Juba talks between Uganda and the rebel Lord's Resistance Army. (The Uganda Monitor)
- At least 37 miners go missing after an explosion in a Ukrainian coal mine causes it to collapse. (RTÉ) (BBC News)
- At least 7 people are killed and 10 injured in a stabbing spree in Tokyo, Japan, coinciding on the 7th anniversary of the Osaka school massacre. (RTÉ) (BBC News)
- In tennis, Rafael Nadal wins the men's singles title at the 2008 French Open for the fourth year in a row, equalling Bjorn Borg's record. (BBC News)
- A day of mourning is declared in Russia's Kaliningrad Region as the death toll from Thursday's explosion and fire on the MV Yenisei reaches eight, with two missing. (Xinhua) (Wikinews)
ITN Candidates for June 8
- Nom Akihabara massacre. Not the most impactful thing going on right now, but it does have a decent new article. - BanyanTree 07:14, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support given the rarity on such incidents in Japan and increased toll. - Mailer Diablo 11:10, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Posted. - BanyanTree 13:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Note: Caribbean Monk Seal item moved to June 6.
- OK, how about: "The government of Southern Sudan stops mediating two-year-old peace talks between Uganda and the rebel Lord's Resistance Army, following a rebel attack on a Sudanese town"? - BanyanTree 09:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- The peace talks stopped already in April, didn't they? Narayanese (talk) 18:35, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Not officially. Kony just refused to sign the peace agreement, but everyone has been continuing under the illusion that they are actually continuing. - BanyanTree 23:14, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Posted.--Pharos (talk) 00:27, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Further comments: Decent article, sourced, picture (++). SpencerT♦C 23:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Posted.--Pharos (talk) 00:27, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- In tennis, Ana Ivanović (pictured), of Serbia, and Rafael Nadal of Spain, win the singles titles in the 2008 French Open.
- An alteration to the existing article, to incorporate the men's event. Kevin McE (talk) 15:19, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Done by Aecis. - BanyanTree 23:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Why, oh why, oh why...would you want to replace the Ivanovic picture? Madness. 131.111.129.126 (talk) 00:02, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- The attractiveness of the Main Page did drop by about an order of magnitude, didn't it? Heh. Oh, the burden of being a "serious" template. - BanyanTree 01:54, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Why, oh why, oh why...would you want to replace the Ivanovic picture? Madness. 131.111.129.126 (talk) 00:02, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Done by Aecis. - BanyanTree 23:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
June 7
- Big Brown becomes the first Triple Crown favorite to place last in the 2008 Belmont Stakes in New York. The undefeated colt previously won the 2008 Kentucky Derby and the 2008 Preakness Stakes. The 38/1 longshot Da'Tara wins in a wire-to-wire finish. The last Triple Crown winner was Affirmed in 1978. (The Ledger)
- The Lord's Resistance Army, reportedly drafting recruits and acquiring new weapons, kills at least 23 people in attacks against south Sudanese troops. (Reuters) (BBC News)
- Hillary Clinton suspends her presidential campaign and endorses Barack Obama as the Democratic candidate for President of the United States in the 2008 election. (CNN)
- UEFA Euro 2008 begins in Austria and Switzerland. (Swissinfo)
- Attackers exchange gunfire with guards at Kosovo's Prime Minister Hashim Thaçi's home. (BBC News)
- Cuba offers free sex reassignment surgery. (Reuters)
- In tennis, Ana Ivanovic defeats Dinara Safina to win the French Open. (ESPN)
- Plymouth Argyle goalkeeper, Luke McCormick is held on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. (Sky News)
ITN Candidates for June 7
- Cuba is now offering free sex reassignment surgery.[3][4] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.118.38.128 (talk) 04:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Not ITN in my opinion... though interesting. --Tone 09:42, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- The article is unlikely to get updated since it doesn't discuss pricing in different countries. Let's take football or something else that comes up instead. Narayanese (talk) 10:43, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- The article Sex reassignment surgery, which appears to the be the relevant article though it wasn't emboldened in the suggestion, doesn't appear to have been updated. Please update the relevant article for ITN consideration. - BanyanTree 12:54, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- EURO 2008 is starting today, probably the biggest European sport event this year. Asking in advance, shall we put the beginnning on ITN as well as the finals? (This is the problem with the new page format, we can't discuss events that will happen in future under the correct date...) --Tone 09:42, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- According to Wikipedia:Sports on ITN it appears only the result should be mentioned. If you disagree, I advise you to bring it up at Wikipedia talk:Sports on ITN. Also, the format is still under discussion at Template talk:In the news and, in the meantime, you are welcome to create the new page for the relevant day in the meantime and post it ahead of time. - BanyanTree 12:54, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Generally, I don't remember us putting the beginning of sporting events... SpencerT♦C 13:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Only the Olympics and the FIFA World Cup. However, this is the number three event behind those two, so I wouldn't complain either way. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 15:44, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think a continental tourney, no matter how huge, should get more than one entry unless something bizarre happens (riots, disqualifications, etc.) Random89 18:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Only the Olympics and the FIFA World Cup. However, this is the number three event behind those two, so I wouldn't complain either way. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 15:44, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Generally, I don't remember us putting the beginning of sporting events... SpencerT♦C 13:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
French Open
- Nom French Open, per WP:ITNSPORTS Random89 18:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Wait until the men's final tomorrow. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 19:46, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Why wait? Does Wikipedia have anything against women? This should get on ITN as soon as we have some referenced prose added to 2008 French Open - Women's Singles.
![Ana Ivanović](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/Ana_Ivanovic.jpg/54px-Ana_Ivanovic.jpg)
- In tennis, Ana Ivanović (pictured) defeats Dinara Safina to win the women's singles title (not boldfaced due to lack of referenced prose) in the 2008 French Open.
- New prose can be found at 2008 French Open#Day 14. Need references, though. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 22:40, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- I think it would make sense to post the women's and men's together as one item.--Pharos (talk) 01:41, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- The refs are now in.[5]
- I think it would make sense to post the women first and then add the men as one item when they are done playing and the relevant articles updated. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 02:50, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Posted per WP:ITNSPORTS. Men can be added to the blurb later, perhaps more prominently to make up for the women going up first. - BanyanTree 07:16, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Make up? True gentlemen should always let the ladies go first! :)
- Anyway, thanks for posting. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 20:56, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Posted per WP:ITNSPORTS. Men can be added to the blurb later, perhaps more prominently to make up for the women going up first. - BanyanTree 07:16, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- I think it would make sense to post the women's and men's together as one item.--Pharos (talk) 01:41, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Uganda-Sudan conflict
Note: 2006–2008 Juba talks copied moved to June 8.
- How about this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.205.108.253 (talk) 20:18, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- How about drafting a wikified news headline with a boldfaced internal link to the updated wikiarticle? --199.71.174.100 (talk) 22:35, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- It's already up in the portal and article, unless you want the Sudan attack. Narayanese (talk) 22:54, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- The external link posted by 76.205.108.253 didn't work for me, so I had no clue what Uganda news it was about. I know it's about Uganda only because it's mentioned at the end of the URL. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 22:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- "The Ugandan Lord's Resistance Army rebels reportedly draft new soldiers and attack South Sudan's army". Narayanese (talk) 23:02, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- I think a headline focusing on the outbreak of "war" would be good for ITN, but we don't have an article about this "war" yet. Shall we wait? --199.71.174.100 (talk) 23:23, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- The Lord's Resistance Army article isn't updated enough. I support when it is expanded. --PlasmaTwa2 23:41, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Let me take a stab at an update, this article having being my sole FA. The GoSS has just withdrawn from their mediation role in the Juba talks, meaning that the two year old peace talks have finally collapsed. At least three editors have been circling the article because of recent developments and I think we can get a truly rocking update in a few hours. - BanyanTree 07:21, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- OK, how about: "The government of Southern Sudan stops mediating two-year-old peace talks between Uganda and the rebel Lord's Resistance Army, following a rebel attack on a Sudanese town"? - BanyanTree 09:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- The peace talks stopped already in April, didn't they? Narayanese (talk) 18:35, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Not officially. Kony just refused to sign the peace agreement, but everyone has been continuing under the illusion that they are actually continuing. - BanyanTree 23:14, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, ok, then your blurb works. Narayanese (talk) 00:23, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Not officially. Kony just refused to sign the peace agreement, but everyone has been continuing under the illusion that they are actually continuing. - BanyanTree 23:14, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- The peace talks stopped already in April, didn't they? Narayanese (talk) 18:35, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- OK, how about: "The government of Southern Sudan stops mediating two-year-old peace talks between Uganda and the rebel Lord's Resistance Army, following a rebel attack on a Sudanese town"? - BanyanTree 09:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Let me take a stab at an update, this article having being my sole FA. The GoSS has just withdrawn from their mediation role in the Juba talks, meaning that the two year old peace talks have finally collapsed. At least three editors have been circling the article because of recent developments and I think we can get a truly rocking update in a few hours. - BanyanTree 07:21, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- The Lord's Resistance Army article isn't updated enough. I support when it is expanded. --PlasmaTwa2 23:41, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- I think a headline focusing on the outbreak of "war" would be good for ITN, but we don't have an article about this "war" yet. Shall we wait? --199.71.174.100 (talk) 23:23, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
June 6
- After five years of searching, the Caribbean Monk Seal is declared officially extinct (MSNBC)
- Japan and North Korea resume bilateral talks, last held in September 2007. (BBC News)
- Colombia and Ecuador restore relations following the Andean diplomatic crisis in March. (BBC News) (Reuters)
- A Venezuelan National Guard sergeant and 3 more people are captured in the Colombian Department of Vichada with 40,000 AK-47 rounds for the rebel group FARC. (El Tiempo) (Noticias24)
- The Diet of Japan recognizes the Ainu as an indigenous people for the first time. (BBC News) (Yomiuri Shimbun)
- The Yulia Tymoshenko Bloc-Our Ukraine Bloc coalition loses its majority in Ukraine's Verkhovna Rada after two deputies quit. (BBC News)
- The America's Climate Security Act of 2007, a greenhouse gas emissions reduction bill, stalls in the U.S. Senate after a 48-36 vote fails to invoke cloture on a Republican filibuster. Presidential candidates John McCain and Barack Obama were among six senators absent from the vote who expressed support for the bill. (AP via San Jose Mercury News) (BBC News)
- A rush-hour explosion targeting a bus in Colombo, Sri Lanka kills at least 21 people and injures 80. (BBC News)
- The price of a barrel of crude oil rises a single-day record of nearly US$11, settling at a new record of US$138.54. (CNN)
- Joseph Muscat becomes the leader of the Malta Labour Party, to become the opposition leader of Malta, to take the place of Charles Mangion, after the resignation of Alfred Sant. (Times of Malta)
ITN Candidates for June 6
- Nominate the Ainu item. I recall we put something up for Australia recognizing something, and the article is about the same quality as the Turkey one. --PlasmaTwa2 23:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Posted. Thanks, BanyanTree 02:03, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- I support, but I'm a bit leery on the amount of information in the article about this...2 sentences and one ref. SpencerT♦C 13:03, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- The Caribbean Monk Seal is declared extinct, due to human causes.[6] I think this is pretty significant, a large animal like this doesn't go extinct very often. -- Coasttocoast (talk) 23:48, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think it would take much effort to expand this article a bit more about the extinction before it's posted. Thanks.--Pharos (talk) 01:49, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
June 5
- An Irish opinion poll shows the EU Treaty of Lisbon heading for defeat. (The Irish Times)
- American and British diplomats are detained in Zimbabwe. (France24)
- United States Secretary of Defense Robert Gates announces the resignation of United States Secretary of the Air Force Michael Wynne and his Chief of Staff General T. Michael Moseley over the 2007 United States Air Force nuclear weapons incident. (The Washington Post)
- The USS Essex, USS Juneau, USS Harpers Ferry and USS Mustin depart the coast of Burma as the State Peace and Development Council maintains its refusal of the ships' aid in Cyclone Nargis relief. (AP via Google News)
- Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four others are arraigned at Guantanamo Bay detention camp under the Military Commissions Act of 2006, and charged with crimes related to the September 11, 2001 attacks. (AP via Google News)
- Prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo of the International Criminal Court reports that crimes in the War in Darfur "required the sustained mobilization of the entire State apparatus" of Sudan. (allAfrica.com) (BBC News)
- A fire destroys major parts of the Rådhuset court house in Stockholm, the architectural landmark designed by Carl Westman. (The Local) (Svenska Dagbladet)
- Turkey's Constitutional Court reinstates a ban on the hijab in universities, citing the constitution's secular principles. (BBC News)
- Prime Minister of Israel Ehud Olmert says that "the end of Iran's nuclear program is near". (Haaretz)
- Burma detains activist and comedian Zarganar who has been involved in private relief efforts for the victims of Cyclone Nargis and seize his computer and banned films including Rambo. (Reuters)
ITN Candidates for June 5
- Perhaps we should mention the Detention of US and UK diplomats in Zimbabwe along with Morgan Tsvangirai, which is already on ITN. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 00:46, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Sure, I've added a link, as well as changing the emboldened link to Zimbabwean presidential election, 2008, which has been greatly updated since several days ago. - BanyanTree 01:19, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Naw. That's not news. We Canadians haven't been able to wear hats in buildings for years. --PlasmaTwa2 00:11, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Do you have a real comment that I won't ignore when deciding whether or not to post this? - BanyanTree 00:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Do you have a real news suggestion that people will care about? Explain how a clothing ban is news, and please tell me how a three sentence mention is enough for it to make it on the news. This is just a long line of discrimination against people from the Middle East. Nothing new. --PlasmaTwa2 00:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Do you actually read the linked articles for comprehension? Do you know that Turkey is in the Middle East? I could provide a list of websites with this item on their front page, but I'm done humoring you. - BanyanTree 01:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- I would say Turkey is in Europe. It might join the EU, after all. --PlasmaTwa2 06:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- And posted. 24 hours since last ITN update and there hasn't been an objection worthy of the name. - BanyanTree 02:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- That's ridiculous. What's the point of nominating something if you're just going to put it up yourself anyway? It has gone up, despite the fact that no case has been made for or against this item (I'm sorry, but on the website you provided, BBC News, this is hardly front page) except for the fact that some arbitrary deadline has passed and ITN "needs" updating apparently. I'm actually fairly neutral on this one, as I was under the impression that this ban had been in place for years (evidently this changed). But our opinions here clearly don't matter as long as admins do whatever the hell they like. Hammer Raccoon (talk) 04:16, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- As I've been saying for at least a week and half now (though it seems like an eternity at this point), starting at Wikipedia talk:In the news 2.0 and most recently in the discussion page below this at ITN/C, one of the key changes that needs to be made if people want more than three items a week is that, as no consensus is "keep" in a deletion discussion, no consensus at ITN must mean "post". As it is, it's relatively easy to block an item for basically no reason at all by throwing a few "opposes" at it and then wait for it to grow too stale to get on the template. The "no consensus=post" assumption, coupled with the timer to say "enough talk - identify the best option and post", entirely breaks that model.
- I nommed an item, which means that I support it. After four hours of waiting, the only comment was that Canadians can't wear hats in buildings, followed by how Middle Eastern people discriminating against Middle Easterners is nothing new. If there had been a consensus against it for other than spurious reasons, I would not have posted it. As is it, I did. I appear to be the only admin on ITN/C right now, so could hardly wait for some other admin to get lost, notice the nom and post for me. I would be delighted to post other people's suggestions, but there appears to be a distinct lack, coupled with a lot of people who appear eager to go back to the 'one update every two days'-paradigm and feel that it is their duty, in the immortal words of Plasma Twa 2, to prevent "the admins from putting up local crap that no one gives a shit about". Except for sporting events, which are apparently OK. - BanyanTree 04:52, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think the nominating admin (on AFDs) can close it too, right? Same thing here. Wait for another admin to judge for him/herself. Its just 4 hours, and ITN is not a news source; ITN can wait for another few hours. --Howard the Duck 05:11, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- That's a fair point. However, ITN/C is largely deserted except for non-admins commenting on the occasional suggestion. In my mind, it was not a question of posting it myself or waiting for another admin to do so in a timely manner, e.g. within 12 hours, but posting it myself now or posting it myself in 24 hours after it became more stale. The "let's wait a few more hours" attitude is precisely the reason that ITN stagnates. The timer goes yellow after 24 hours: the question is not "can't we wait more than the 24 hours?" but "what sort of lame Main Page template goes un-updated for more than 24 hours?". Note that I would have been happy to hold off if there had been a more thoroughly vetted candidate, but there was not. - BanyanTree 05:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- I didn't know that ITN now has a timer. However, these hours are the hours where people from the Western Hemisphere sleep and when the Europeans start waking up so it can be pretty slow within these intervals.
- Eight hours ago, when I posted the suggestion? That would have been 10 pm in Western Europe, 8 pm on the East Coast and 4 pm on the West Coast. Hardly the dead of night, and broad daylight for Anglophones in New Zealand and Australia. - BanyanTree 06:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- No, right now. Maybe on the West Coast it is still early. Nevertheless, you should've waited for another admin to evaluate it. Sooner or later someone will crop up. --Howard the Duck 06:26, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Eight hours ago, when I posted the suggestion? That would have been 10 pm in Western Europe, 8 pm on the East Coast and 4 pm on the West Coast. Hardly the dead of night, and broad daylight for Anglophones in New Zealand and Australia. - BanyanTree 06:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Still, I won't recommend adding your own suggestion. I see it as unethical; it seems that there are no overly violent reactions (yet, like rallies or civil disturbance) so the time wasted on waiting for an admin response is not that bad. --Howard the Duck 06:02, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps. It would be far easier if someone besides me suggested items (the amount of effort that various users have expended attacking the posting of this item could easily have resulted in two more items going up), so they could be more thoroughly vetted. As for my unethical behavior, you are welcome to find someone to start my recall, bring it up at WP:AN/I or seek other form of redress. - BanyanTree 06:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- I really don't care about how users become admins and how admins are booted out of adminship. And since you've brought up WP:AN/I it would've been a good idea to post a shout out there about this rather than posting your own suggestion yourself. --Howard the Duck 06:26, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- I note your opinion. - BanyanTree 07:04, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- I really don't care about how users become admins and how admins are booted out of adminship. And since you've brought up WP:AN/I it would've been a good idea to post a shout out there about this rather than posting your own suggestion yourself. --Howard the Duck 06:26, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps. It would be far easier if someone besides me suggested items (the amount of effort that various users have expended attacking the posting of this item could easily have resulted in two more items going up), so they could be more thoroughly vetted. As for my unethical behavior, you are welcome to find someone to start my recall, bring it up at WP:AN/I or seek other form of redress. - BanyanTree 06:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- I didn't know that ITN now has a timer. However, these hours are the hours where people from the Western Hemisphere sleep and when the Europeans start waking up so it can be pretty slow within these intervals.
- That's a fair point. However, ITN/C is largely deserted except for non-admins commenting on the occasional suggestion. In my mind, it was not a question of posting it myself or waiting for another admin to do so in a timely manner, e.g. within 12 hours, but posting it myself now or posting it myself in 24 hours after it became more stale. The "let's wait a few more hours" attitude is precisely the reason that ITN stagnates. The timer goes yellow after 24 hours: the question is not "can't we wait more than the 24 hours?" but "what sort of lame Main Page template goes un-updated for more than 24 hours?". Note that I would have been happy to hold off if there had been a more thoroughly vetted candidate, but there was not. - BanyanTree 05:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think the nominating admin (on AFDs) can close it too, right? Same thing here. Wait for another admin to judge for him/herself. Its just 4 hours, and ITN is not a news source; ITN can wait for another few hours. --Howard the Duck 05:11, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- That's ridiculous. What's the point of nominating something if you're just going to put it up yourself anyway? It has gone up, despite the fact that no case has been made for or against this item (I'm sorry, but on the website you provided, BBC News, this is hardly front page) except for the fact that some arbitrary deadline has passed and ITN "needs" updating apparently. I'm actually fairly neutral on this one, as I was under the impression that this ban had been in place for years (evidently this changed). But our opinions here clearly don't matter as long as admins do whatever the hell they like. Hammer Raccoon (talk) 04:16, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Do you actually read the linked articles for comprehension? Do you know that Turkey is in the Middle East? I could provide a list of websites with this item on their front page, but I'm done humoring you. - BanyanTree 01:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Do you have a real news suggestion that people will care about? Explain how a clothing ban is news, and please tell me how a three sentence mention is enough for it to make it on the news. This is just a long line of discrimination against people from the Middle East. Nothing new. --PlasmaTwa2 00:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Do you have a real comment that I won't ignore when deciding whether or not to post this? - BanyanTree 00:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Of all the things that could be considered "unethical" for a Wikipedia admin, well, this is my opinion: writing, nominating and posting an updated item to ITN by oneself when noone else is around seems much more like something praiseworthy.--Pharos (talk) 16:19, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- As a non-admin, this is very frightening. Screw consensus. Delete AFD -- just let the admins add WP:PROD and if no one objects in a few hours, delete it. Make an article featured by adding it at WP:FAC, wait for a few hours, then if no one responds, promote it to FA. Screw the very foundations Wikipedia was built. In fact, semi-protect ITN/C and let the admins add their pet blurbs, and if no admin even says a thing, add it.
- And to think there are really no "big" events coming out from this blurb, like mass hysteria, bombings, even protests etc. If it was that important something would've happened already but it hasn't. --Howard the Duck 18:52, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- This is nothing like AFD. AFD is decided after at least 5 days (often longer), and the result is a permanent change to the encyclopedia. ITN candidates are usually decided within one day (with very little active admin participation), and the result is an entirely ephemeral change to a portal. I'm not sure why you're so interested in mass hysteria and bombings. There are lots of important things in the world beside mass hysteria and bombings.--Pharos (talk) 19:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Ephemeral change in a highly-visible template. And staleness on ITN shouldn't be the reason on ditching consensus and the ideals Wikipedia was founded -- ITN is not a news service, ITN can live with stale news for a week (although it wouldn't go that bad). As for importance, if something "important" happened in a similarly-sized country, say Ethiopia, it won't be posted on ITN, unless it's about mass hysteria and bombings (actually for a country plagued with mass hysteria and bombings everyday, even those won't be enough to place it on ITN, but that's another story). I'm not saying this shouldn't be on ITN; at most this is a borderline case. If it's a borderline case, you wait for others to comment. No matter what. --Howard the Duck 03:17, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- This is nothing like AFD. AFD is decided after at least 5 days (often longer), and the result is a permanent change to the encyclopedia. ITN candidates are usually decided within one day (with very little active admin participation), and the result is an entirely ephemeral change to a portal. I'm not sure why you're so interested in mass hysteria and bombings. There are lots of important things in the world beside mass hysteria and bombings.--Pharos (talk) 19:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Of all the things that could be considered "unethical" for a Wikipedia admin, well, this is my opinion: writing, nominating and posting an updated item to ITN by oneself when noone else is around seems much more like something praiseworthy.--Pharos (talk) 16:19, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
(un-indent) Actually, this would be a good time to test this out. Would the first admin who is reading this and would have either posted this item or offered a rejection reason, please post here so we know what sort of time frame we're looking at? Thanks, BanyanTree 06:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Irregardless of anything else, anyone else notice that this is a one country story? This is a story about Turkey and it's citizens. If we tried to put something up about this happening in America, it would never go up. Or, maybe it would. Under this new rule, it would. --PlasmaTwa2 06:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Sure. If the US had a secularist constitution while being a Muslim country and had a new popularly elected Islamic government that passed a law pushing against the secularists, which caused worry for the U.S. because they were trying to get into the European Union over the resolute resistance of France, and then the secularist courts banned the new law by the Islamic party, in what was seen as foreshadowing for the outlawing of the Islamic party, I'd definitely put that on ITN. - BanyanTree 07:00, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, honestly, you lost me after you said the U.S. was worried about the U.S. But, it sounds to me that this law is "foreshadowing" the ban of the Islamic Party, in which case, I still don't think that is very notable. Not on an international level, at least. I can't believe I am using this, but as of right now this story is not on the main page of CNN.com. Like Howard mentioned above, there apparently has been no riots or violent reactions to this, either. --PlasmaTwa2 07:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Also, if it is only in universities, that seems pretty minor. --PlasmaTwa2 07:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, it has been ten hours or so since this was posted, which was obviously after it hit the news wires. I also think that counting front page locations is lame, but in that time I have seen it go from being the number two item on BBC News to the sidebar to the single lead item in the Middle East regional section and drop down to the "religion" section on the Washington Post front page. To be fair, the number of ITN items that would stay at the top of the news cycle for more than 12 hours is rather small.
- As for minor, it's all contextual. Having a census in the US would not make it to ITN; I would have no qualms about putting an adequately updated Lebanese census item up. (If you don't understand this, see Demographics of Lebanon.) If you don't like it, throw a five sentence update into an article currently on the current events portal, nominate it, I'll post it, and this item will be pushed off the top. It'll take five minutes, which is less time than you've taken in this discussion thus far, and we'll both feel a lot more productive than we do now. - BanyanTree 07:46, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- As an admin, I certainly would have put this up. I noticed the suggestion before it was posted, and it seemed like a decent one, so I didn't see a particular reason to comment at the time. Certainly this is a significant development in Turkish constitutional law, and the item meets all criteria.--Pharos (talk) 15:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Sure. If the US had a secularist constitution while being a Muslim country and had a new popularly elected Islamic government that passed a law pushing against the secularists, which caused worry for the U.S. because they were trying to get into the European Union over the resolute resistance of France, and then the secularist courts banned the new law by the Islamic party, in what was seen as foreshadowing for the outlawing of the Islamic party, I'd definitely put that on ITN. - BanyanTree 07:00, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- It's nice that this went up, the issue is important in Turkish politics as a symbol for the tug between islamic and secular powers. Narayanese (talk) 08:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Nom Nuclear program of Iran#Israeli views I would actually have preferred this to the Hijab ban, but I didn't update the article until just now, so I can't really complain. Also, I see nothing wrong with what Banyan did, it was a fine entry to have on ITN, and when we need more admins not fewer, telling them not to post their own suggestions seems somewhat counterproductive. Random89 20:16, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- The article is certainly well updated but the wording of the portal blurb, "Prime Minister of Israel Ehud Olmert says that 'the end of Iran's nuclear program is near'", is not supported by the updated content. Please suggest an alternate wording supported by the article or add to the article so that the suggested blurb is supported. Thanks, BanyanTree 01:54, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- How about:
Israeli government officials issue threatening remarks about Iran's nuclear program. Random89 18:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- OK, posted.--Pharos (talk) 01:14, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
June 4
- The Detroit Red Wings defeat the Pittsburgh Penguins 3-2 in the sixth game to win the 2008 Stanley Cup Finals 4-2. (AP via Google News) (CBC)
- Al-Qaeda claims responsibility for the 2008 Danish embassy bombing stating it was revenge for the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy. (Bloomberg)
- Tony Rezko, a Chicago property developer and former fundraiser for Barack Obama, is convicted on 16 charges of corruption. (Chicago Tribune via Los Angeles Times)
- A coolant leak at Krško Nuclear Power Plant in Slovenia triggers the European Union's ECURIE nuclear emergency alert system. Slovenian authorities state the situation is under control, with no radiation leak into the environment. (BBC News)
- Reassembly of the Obelisk of Axum begins in Axum, after the monument was returned to Ethiopia from Italy in 2005. (BBC News)
- The International Olympic Committee releases a shortlist of 2016 Summer Olympics bids consisting of Chicago, United States; Tokyo, Japan; Madrid, Spain; and Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. (Sports Network)
- Zimbabwean police detain Movement for Democratic Change leader Morgan Tsvangirai while campaigning in the second round of the Zimbabwe presidential election. He is later released after eight hours in detention. (The Times) (BBC News)
- Lithuanian Prime Minister Gediminas Kirkilas announces plans to avoid recession as growth of the Lithuanian economy slows. (Bloomberg)
- The Malaysian government announces a 40% increase in fuel prices, with gasoline rising from 1.92 ringgit (US$0.61) per litre to 2.70 ringgit by midnight. (BBC News) (International Herald Tribune)
ITN Candidates for June 4
- Nom "Zimbabwean police briefly detain opposition Movement for Democratic Change leader Morgan Tsvangirai during campaigning in the second round of the Zimbabwe presidential election." Our little timer is nearly at 24 hours, so if anyone has any better suggestions, including for the past several days... - BanyanTree 00:39, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Time's up. I expanded the update and posted, since the Olympics item appears controversial and there are no other candidates. And I didn't choose this just because it's almost certainly the only time three images in a row of black men have been put on a Main Page template. ;) OMG, TEH BIAS! - BanyanTree 01:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm going to have to Oppose this, even though our timer is running out. It doesn't matter if a timer is running out...it's a reminder, not a guideline. He is simply "briefly" detained, and we have never mentioned other famous people being in police custody, i.e. Mel Gibson for drunk driving. I feel this can be a dangerous precedent for a "brief" detention. I know I have nothing to suggest, but I prefer quality over quantity. At any point, We'll probably be seeing some new stories sooner or later as daytime passes through Asia. SpencerT♦C 01:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- He is a presidential candidate for one of the most powerful nations in the region, who may have won the first round anyway, who was detained for addressing a crowd of his supporters, and was released following formal protests from multiple nations. I think equating this to Gibson drunk driving is a little off, though I'm probably more familiar with the background than most users. I would wheel like a fiend to keep ITN from being filled with the inanities of celebrity 'news'. - BanyanTree 06:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Also Oppose. Lets not become the BBC and slavishly report every little thing that Tsangvirai would like us to. This isn't important enough to be ITN. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.45.5 (talk) 03:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- "Lets not become the BBC and slavishly report..." - ok, this made me grin. I suppose The Washington Post, who had this story on their front page when I posted, is also Tsvangirai's slave. What a powerful man he must be - and yet unable to get his votes counted. - BanyanTree 06:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- "Please refrain from straight support or oppose votes; instead the discussion can focus on the relative merits of the available candidate items". This is part of the trial period guidelines. The idea is, than you can suggest better items rather than opposing. Thank you.--Pharos (talk) 05:45, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Now that we've put up the Stanley Cup (Dang I was hoping Pittsburg would win), can we take this down now? I knew we'd have somesthing soon, and its just a hair past the little timer. SpencerT♦C 11:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- As a general rule, if something is worth putting up for a short time then it's worth keeping on till it rotates off. However,, I'm still waiting to see if Harami2000 comes through with his inflation item (from June 3rd) which would replace this, as two Zimbabwe items at one time may be a bit much. - BanyanTree 13:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter...it was put up without consensus, and should stay down unless voted to go back up. SpencerT♦C 19:35, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Per my discussion with Random89 at Wikipedia talk:In the news 2.0, I am explicitly operating on a "consensus required to exclude; no consensus=include" basis. As such, right now even the Olympics item below is still considered marginal for inclusion, rather than being outright rejected. - BanyanTree 22:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter...it was put up without consensus, and should stay down unless voted to go back up. SpencerT♦C 19:35, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- As a general rule, if something is worth putting up for a short time then it's worth keeping on till it rotates off. However,, I'm still waiting to see if Harami2000 comes through with his inflation item (from June 3rd) which would replace this, as two Zimbabwe items at one time may be a bit much. - BanyanTree 13:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Now that we've put up the Stanley Cup (Dang I was hoping Pittsburg would win), can we take this down now? I knew we'd have somesthing soon, and its just a hair past the little timer. SpencerT♦C 11:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm going to have to Oppose this, even though our timer is running out. It doesn't matter if a timer is running out...it's a reminder, not a guideline. He is simply "briefly" detained, and we have never mentioned other famous people being in police custody, i.e. Mel Gibson for drunk driving. I feel this can be a dangerous precedent for a "brief" detention. I know I have nothing to suggest, but I prefer quality over quantity. At any point, We'll probably be seeing some new stories sooner or later as daytime passes through Asia. SpencerT♦C 01:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
(unindent) "...explicitly operating?" I apologise for being blunt, but I feel this is why we have WP:IAR. Here's a compromise: How about at the next update, we remove this and add the new, instead of the bottom item. SpencerT♦C 00:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- I like blunt, though I don't quite know what you mean by "this is why we have WP:IAR". It almost sounds like you think I shouldn't explain myself. Or maybe you mean I should ignore my own judgment in order to obey the norms of the system that had caused the template to stagnate before, in which case the IAR thing to do would be to push for inclusion. - BanyanTree 00:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry for not clarifying...when you say "I am explicitly operating on a 'consensus required to exclude; no consensus=include' basis," I was suggesting that we ignore this basis. But how does the compromise sound? The item wasn't really approved...and the two "suggesters" besides the nominator both opposed... SpencerT♦C 01:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- 24.118.45.5 is an obvious political partisan, and I disregarded his vote as soon as I read it. In my mind, it's 1 vs 1. I'm operating on a no consensus=inclusion basis as I stated in earlier discussions on ITN reform, and posted an item that I have judged to have no consensus. I see no downside to keeping the Zimbabwe item on for its natural lifespan, though I'm hoping that another item, perhaps the detention of US and UK diplomats, the expulsion of aid organizations or the insane inflation (the country is a real mess), replaces it. This is completely consistent from my point of view as apparently one of two admins interacting at ITN/C, but may seem unfair to you. You might want to ask an uninvolved admin to review if you feel strongly about it. - BanyanTree 01:55, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- I don't feel that strongly. Do we have an article about the expulsation of the NGO aid organizations? SpencerT♦C 19:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Not the last time I went through what I thought were the most likely suspects for articles. It's possible that someone has updated an article and it just hasn't gotten to the portal, which seems to happen fairly frequently. - BanyanTree 02:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- I don't feel that strongly. Do we have an article about the expulsation of the NGO aid organizations? SpencerT♦C 19:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- 24.118.45.5 is an obvious political partisan, and I disregarded his vote as soon as I read it. In my mind, it's 1 vs 1. I'm operating on a no consensus=inclusion basis as I stated in earlier discussions on ITN reform, and posted an item that I have judged to have no consensus. I see no downside to keeping the Zimbabwe item on for its natural lifespan, though I'm hoping that another item, perhaps the detention of US and UK diplomats, the expulsion of aid organizations or the insane inflation (the country is a real mess), replaces it. This is completely consistent from my point of view as apparently one of two admins interacting at ITN/C, but may seem unfair to you. You might want to ask an uninvolved admin to review if you feel strongly about it. - BanyanTree 01:55, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry for not clarifying...when you say "I am explicitly operating on a 'consensus required to exclude; no consensus=include' basis," I was suggesting that we ignore this basis. But how does the compromise sound? The item wasn't really approved...and the two "suggesters" besides the nominator both opposed... SpencerT♦C 01:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- I like blunt, though I don't quite know what you mean by "this is why we have WP:IAR". It almost sounds like you think I shouldn't explain myself. Or maybe you mean I should ignore my own judgment in order to obey the norms of the system that had caused the template to stagnate before, in which case the IAR thing to do would be to push for inclusion. - BanyanTree 00:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Also, I happened to read the current events page for June 5. I feel that this also sets a dangerous precedent, because one could similarly argue for Zarganar being added. SpencerT♦C 00:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- If the article Zarganar was updated adequately and suggested at ITN/C, I would consider it for inclusion, though I would probably wait and hope something that would prompt less people to yell at me was suggested. That said, he is apparently a notable critic of the government (though not the level of Tsvangirai), but has not been released (as Tsvangirai has). I have also been looking for an angle to get Cyclone Nargis back on ITN, since it certainly has not gotten the level of ITN attention it deserves, and that would weigh in any decision as well. If I could embolden Cyclone Nargis rather than Zarganar, I would be more favorable to it.
- I feel that I've given a fairly detailed description of my possible reasoning process. What is your reasoning process for a prospective Zarganar item? - BanyanTree 00:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, I see where you're coming from. I'm really hoping for a major news story, because when this happens (as it appears now), I notice notability debates become more frequent. I actually agree with your reasoning process for the item. But when you say "...apparently a notable critic..." we need to have a ref for this in the article. Cheers, SpencerT♦C 01:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, this is all a thought experiment as we don't have an updated article. - BanyanTree 01:55, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, I see where you're coming from. I'm really hoping for a major news story, because when this happens (as it appears now), I notice notability debates become more frequent. I actually agree with your reasoning process for the item. But when you say "...apparently a notable critic..." we need to have a ref for this in the article. Cheers, SpencerT♦C 01:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support (More sources: (IOC) (Games bid)) Felipe C.S ( talk ) 21:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- We did not put this up for anyo other Olympics, did we? --PlasmaTwa2 22:33, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose; nothing of lasting importance here. Should only go up when winner is announced. Hammer Raccoon (talk) 22:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose I agree with Hammer Raccoon...the field is still there, and once a city is chosen, I'll support that. SpencerT♦C 00:09, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose; nothing of lasting importance here. Should only go up when winner is announced. Hammer Raccoon (talk) 22:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- We did not put this up for anyo other Olympics, did we? --PlasmaTwa2 22:33, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- The Detroit Red Wings win the Stanley Cup after defeating the Pittsburgh Penguins in Game Six of the 2008 Stanley Cup Finals.
- Fuck. Detroit won. Let's put it up (Fuck). --PlasmaTwa2 02:46, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support. We could use the image of the Cup too. Better luck next year Pittsburgh :(-Wafulz (talk) 02:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Boo. My avian friends lose. I dunno how the current setup works but I'll support this. --Howard the Duck 03:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, sports is the same. This is one of the biggest championships of the year, and it is on Wikipedia:Sports on ITN. There is no reason why it won't go up. --PlasmaTwa2 03:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- If the Super 14 could go up, then so could the Stanley Cup. Therefore Support.--ChicosBailBonds (talk) 03:09, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, sports is the same. This is one of the biggest championships of the year, and it is on Wikipedia:Sports on ITN. There is no reason why it won't go up. --PlasmaTwa2 03:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Boo. My avian friends lose. I dunno how the current setup works but I'll support this. --Howard the Duck 03:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
June 3
- Antonio Pettigrew hands back the gold medal he won as part of the United States Olympic 400 metre relay team at the 2000 Summer Olympics in Sydney following an admission that he used EPO and human growth hormone between 1997 and 2003. Michael Johnson, another member of the team, returns his gold medal on the grounds that it was "tainted". (AP via Forbes) (AP via CNN)
- China National Petroleum Corporation signs an agreement to produce oil in Niger. (BBC News)
- General Motors announces it will close 4 pickup truck and sport utility vehicle factories in Janesville, Wisconsin, Oshawa, Ontario, Moraine, Ohio, and Toluca, Mexico, eliminating 10,000 jobs; it also announces plans for a small car that will achieve 45 miles per gallon in response to rising fuel prices. (AP via Google News)
- NASA reveals that Launch Complex 39A at Kennedy Space Center sustained unusual amounts of damage during the launch of STS-124. They are unsure what caused the damage, but are certain it will not cause any delay for the next launch, STS-125, in October. (CBS News via Spaceflight Now)
- United States Democratic Party primaries, 2008:
- Illinois Senator Barack Obama wins the Democratic Party presumptive nomination, becoming the first African American to be nominated by a major party. (AP via Time) (BBC News)
- Senator Obama wins the Montana Democratic primary, 2008.
- New York Senator Hillary Clinton wins the South Dakota Democratic primary, 2008. (BBC News)
- The United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization opens the High-Level Conference on World Food Security in Rome, focusing on the world food price crisis, climate change and agriculture[disambiguation needed] and food vs fuel issues.
- Three people are dead and many more injured as a result of flooding in the Zollernalbkreis region in the German state of Baden-Wuerttemberg. (CNN)
ITN Candidates for June 3
- Note that the High-Level Conference on World Food Security (2008) is clearly of interest, but needs a few sentences of referenced updates. - BanyanTree 00:47, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Barack_Obama.jpg/100px-Barack_Obama.jpg)
- Senator Barack Obama of Illinois (pictured) secures the Democratic nomination for the Presidency of the United States, becoming the first African-American to lead a major party in the United States.
- He will most likely secure the delegates needed late tonight, or tomorrow. Also, it needs to be decided if we mention that he is the first black man to get the nomination of a major political party in the US. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 19:24, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- I think yes to the second question as it's arguably more noteable then the actual selection of a candidate so unless some strange happens like the media not widely mentioning it, which I doubt will happen then it should definitely be there. Nil Einne (talk) 19:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC) Edit: Indeed I think thus [7] just goes to show that they almost definitely will Nil Einne (talk) 19:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- It's mentioned in the second sentence of this AP article. I think it would be good form for us to follow suit, since it is an historically signficant event. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 19:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- I think yes to the second question as it's arguably more noteable then the actual selection of a candidate so unless some strange happens like the media not widely mentioning it, which I doubt will happen then it should definitely be there. Nil Einne (talk) 19:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC) Edit: Indeed I think thus [7] just goes to show that they almost definitely will Nil Einne (talk) 19:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Formatting it like you did with two different links bolded in the headline, right next to each other, is confusing. I recommend emphasizing only Democratic nomination —dgiestc 21:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think it should be included in the blurb as well. I have tweaked the blurb above to match. -- Grant.Alpaugh 22:49, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- The table at Democratic Party (United States) presidential primaries, 2008 currently has him 10 delegates away, and there's currently an editing tiff on Barack Obama over wording. The suggested blurb doesn't seem supported by the articles. - BanyanTree 23:12, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- The final two primaries are tonight. He will have those 10 delegates in the next 3 hours. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 23:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- CNN, the AP, and the BBC are all calling him the presumptive nominee now that the polls have closed in SD. Andrew Levine (talk) 01:35, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- The relevant articles appear to have been updated since I last checked as well. - BanyanTree 01:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- The table at Democratic Party (United States) presidential primaries, 2008 currently has him 10 delegates away, and there's currently an editing tiff on Barack Obama over wording. The suggested blurb doesn't seem supported by the articles. - BanyanTree 23:12, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think it should be included in the blurb as well. I have tweaked the blurb above to match. -- Grant.Alpaugh 22:49, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Change the blurb. It is news when he becomes the nominee, which he no doubt is now. --PlasmaTwa2 02:13, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- I don't understand. Obama is only a norminee of presidency election, but not yet the president-to-be. From the past experience I don't think this news is suitable. – PeterCX&Talk 04:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, you should have objected in March when we put McCain up. There is no way you can put him up and not Obama, the first black to get the nomination of one of the two major parties. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 04:56, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- As I understand it, and my understanding is reinforced by the current phrasing of the article, he is now extremely likely to gain a majority of nominations. That is not the same as securing the nomination, which was the thresh-hold for posting the McCain item. No-one expects him not to be the nominee, but until that is formally confirmed, this is WP:CRYSTAL. It might be that the phrase "a predicted majority" has a technical meaning in US politics, in which case it should be linked. If not, I really do not see how this can be posted until either votes are counted and officially announced, or Clinton withdraws from the campaign. To do otherwise is akin to saying that Dimitri Medvedev has a predicted majority of the Russian Presidenmtial election in 2012, which he almost certainly does. Kevin McE (talk) 14:16, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- How come you make it sound like the only reason Obama is notable is because he's African-American? --PlasmaTwa2 06:25, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- I think CWY's point is that it makes little since to put up McCain but not put up Obama when Obama's nomination is of far greater notability and international interest then McCain, which IMHO is true. Whether people like it or not, the fact that Barack Obama is African-American/black has attracted a lot of interest and is in many ways of greater interest then the selection of a Democractic/Republican candidate in itself Nil Einne (talk) 15:12, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, you should have objected in March when we put McCain up. There is no way you can put him up and not Obama, the first black to get the nomination of one of the two major parties. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 04:56, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- Hyperinflation in Zimbabwe pushes Zimbabwean dollar (pictured) exchange rate above one Billion to the US dollar.
- - Globally significant "in the public eye" both economically and politically.
- - Highest profile example of extreme hyperinflation for many years, followed closely by the media world-wide media recently.
- - "Landmark" figure of one billion chosen in order to ensure ITN proposal not merely repeated at regular intervals, plus has resonance in terms of *"billionaires". Also, this particular hyperinflation has very much accelerated in the past few days (see Zimbabwe dollar page) and is newsworthy additionally in that specific context.
- - Thanks for your time/consideration, David.Harami2000 (talk) 19:56, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Would be good if there were an article dealing specifically on Hyperinflation in Zimbabwe. Otherwise it's a bit light on content. —dgiestc 21:41, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Mhmm... much appreciate the feedback. I was 50-50 on that from a "quality of content"/"well-rounded article" point-of-view, although the likes of the World_record_progression_100_metres_men currently ITN swung that for me in that that's even more sketchy/list-like than the Zimbabwean dollar article, yet was still deemed OK for the front-page slot.
- I'm unsure whether an in-depth Hyperinflation in Zimbabwe article is an immediately feasible option, alas, given how much would have to be ripped out of the Zimbabwean dollar page and the latter rewritten. (There's also a Paper_money_of_the_Zimbabwean_dollar page, so I'd rather been taking the Zimbabwean dollar article to be a proxy "hyperinflation in Zimbabwe" article, in recent months).
- Will give that a thought and/or see what anyone else might think by way of suggestion for this, given the tight timescale.
- Cheers, David. Harami2000 (talk) 22:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- On a strictly procedural level, you need to add the blurb to Portal:Current events with a link to a supporting external article. Once that is done, you can suggest an item here simply by saying "Nom Zimbabwean dollar", or reword the item if you feel that a new wording is required for ITN.
- I'm afraid I can't figure out what is the updated and cited article that supports the suggested blurb. Please embolden the link to that article. As for the comment about creating a new article, an update to Economy of Zimbabwe would appear to be logical and less strenuous, though I'll take any article that satisfies the minimum level for referenced, updated content. Note that there must normally be updated prose to qualify for ITN, not updated tables. - BanyanTree 23:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Gotcha! I'd missed that Portal:Current events gateway to ITN, sorry. Which probably gives me or anyone else a day's leeway to pick up a top-flight news story or two for referencing and rewrite and/or summarise on the best article (using Zimbabwean dollar still looks easier as a re-edit rather than a totally new article). Thank you for the procedural walk-through, BanyanTree.
- David. Harami2000 (talk) 23:41, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Would be good if there were an article dealing specifically on Hyperinflation in Zimbabwe. Otherwise it's a bit light on content. —dgiestc 21:41, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
June 2
- Discoveries of exoplanets
- Astronomers using the Mount John University Observatory discover MOA-2007-BLG-192-L b, the smallest known extrasolar planet which does not orbit a pulsar. (PhysOrg.com)
- 2008 Danish embassy bombing in Islamabad
- Subprime mortgage crisis
- Wachovia, the fourth largest bank in the United States, fires its Chief Executive Officer, G. Kennedy Thompson, due to losses incurred in the subprime mortgage crisis. (Bloomberg)
- The Bank of England says that new mortgage approvals in the United Kingdom in April were at record lows. (The Guardian)
- Supreme Court of the United States:
- In United States v. Santos, by a 5-4 decision, the United States Supreme Court takes a narrow interpretation of federal laws regarding money laundering, and uses the decision in Cuellar v. United States to unanimously overturn the money laundering conviction of Humberto Cuellar. (Fox News)
- The Supreme Court refuses to hear Major League Baseball Advanced Media v. C.B.C. Major League Baseball had sought to overturn a judgement against them in state court in Missouri that permitted C.B.C. to run fantasy baseball leagues using real player names without a license from MLB. (Sports Illustrated)
- The International Atomic Energy Agency will send an inspection team to Syria to investigate claims by the United States that it was secretly building a nuclear reactor. (Reuters)
- The United Nations Security Council goes on a mission to Africa with the first leg of the mission to Djibouti to discuss the Somali Civil War. (BBC News)
- The United Nations Security Council unanimously passes a declaration allowing foreign naval vessels to enter Somali territorial waters to deal with pirates. (BBC News)
- A SNCF train runs into a school bus at a level crossing at Mesinges, near the town of Allinges in the mountainous Haute Savoie area of France with at least six people killed. (France 24)
ITN Candidates for June 2
- Added after a wait for comments. I was unsure if Spencer's comment below was subtle opposition to this, but I figured I wouldn't be paranoid. - BanyanTree 01:56, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- There is a chance that it will not appear until tomorrows items, so I'm putting it here. In case it happens tonight: The Detroit Red Wings win the Stanley Cup after defeating the Pittsburgh Penguins in Game Five of the 2008 Stanley Cup Finals.
- In the chance this happens, I think this will be a fine test to see how quick this new itn allows us to put this up. Last year it was not put up in a timely fashion, which should be avoided this time. --PlasmaTwa2 00:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Pittsburgh wins. See ya again in a few days. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 04:56, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thank god. --PlasmaTwa2 05:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Pittsburgh wins. See ya again in a few days. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 04:56, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not too big on any of these, except the danish bombing, that is up. SpencerT♦C 11:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- In order to encourage an atmosphere where people feel encouraged to feed items into ITN, please wait until a specific item is suggested before evaluating it for minimum ITN standards. Thanks, BanyanTree 01:56, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
June 1
- Thirteen people are killed and 14 others injured in a bus crash in Anzoátegui, Venezuela. (Xinhua)
- At least 8 people are suffocated at the Samuel K. Doe stadium in Monrovia, Liberia in a 2010 World Cup qualification match between Liberia and Gambia. (AP via CNNSI)
- The Rajasthan Royals led by Shane Warne win the first Indian Premier League cricket competition defeating the Chennai Super Kings in the final at the DY Patil Stadium in Navi Mumbai. (AAP via Fox Sports)
- 2008 United States presidential election: New York Senator Hillary Clinton wins the Puerto Rico Democratic primary, 2008. (The Guardian)
- The Australian Army ends its combat role in Iraq, as about 500 troops withdraw from Nasiriyah. (Reuters)
- Macedonian voters go to the polls for the Macedonian parliamentary election, 2008 with reports of violence in ethnic Albanian areas. The Prime Minister of Macedonia Nikola Gruevski claims victory for his centre-right party. (Reuters) (BBC News)
- Voters in the Bolivian departments of Beni and Pando go to the polls for autonomy referendums. (AP via CNN)
- A large fire breaks out at Universal Studios Hollywood in Los Angeles. There was at least one explosion. (Sky News)
ITN Candidates for June 1
Note: The 2008 Super 14 Final discussion has been moved to May 31.--Pharos (talk) 13:06, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Unviersal Studios lot fire. Should be included, sets that were destroyed include Back To The Future and many TV Shows. Report headline something like: Backlot of Universal Studios destroyed by heavy fire, Sets destroyed include Back To The Future. --SamB135 (talk) 08:22, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- This is adequately updated but this may be too local, given that there were no fatalities and nothing of great cultural import appears to have been lost. There is also a question of a merge with Universal Studios Hollywood. I would appreciate input from other users on this one. - BanyanTree 11:38, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- World record in 100 m has been beaten, I think we usually include this event in the ITN. Depends on the article, though... --Tone 12:03, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- I support that. --Bender235 (talk) 12:35, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- We need an updated item above or, if the update is at Portal:Current events/Sports, a suggested wording here. - BanyanTree 12:48, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Strongly support including "Usain Bolt of Jamacia sets a new 100 metres world record at the Reebox Grand Prix in New York" or something along those lines. LukeSurl t c 19:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support. The most important track and field record. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 19:20, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- I suggest changing the world record link to world record (ie links to World record progression 100 metres men) 91.109.198.46 (talk) 20:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Suggestion was started 5 hours earlier on the date on which this event took place and was added to the portal (31st May). However, to use the word "dash" as part of the headline on the Main Page ITN section is very much US English, and the Main Page should be as version neutral as possible. I believe that simple "100 metres", given the context, is adequate in any language. Further, there is no need to give the sponsor's name: they are not paying Wikipedia, and the name of the event (which is probably not needed anyway) is meaningful and widely understood without it. Suggest rephrase to "Usain Bolt of Jamaica sets a new world record of 9.72 seconds in the 100 metres in New York." Kevin McE (talk) 20:42, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Aren't we to use the English used on the place where the event happened? How about on basketball, we'd use British English? That'll be bizarre. --Howard the Duck 11:38, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Please read the comment. I said that it should be "as version neutral as possible": in this instance, totally neutral language is possible, and so should be used. Is there a reason why we are still providing the Reebok corporation with free publicity on ITN? Kevin McE (talk) 12:06, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Which roughly translates into "get rid of U.S. English since it's really not English English anyway. I wonder how would the NBA Finals result be written? "The Los Angeles Lakers defeats the Boston Celtic F.C. at the the arena named after an office supplies chain."
- As I've said before, let's use the English used at the place where event was held. --Howard the Duck 13:12, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Misrepresentation is not constructive. Please desist. Kevin McE (talk) 14:44, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Shouldn't the English of the person involved take precedence over the place it occured? This is about Usain Bolt's world record, not the place the world record occured. Heck, I don't even know where that is and I suspect many other people likewise. Nil Einne (talk) 19:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Please read the comment. I said that it should be "as version neutral as possible": in this instance, totally neutral language is possible, and so should be used. Is there a reason why we are still providing the Reebok corporation with free publicity on ITN? Kevin McE (talk) 12:06, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Aren't we to use the English used on the place where the event happened? How about on basketball, we'd use British English? That'll be bizarre. --Howard the Duck 11:38, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Suggestion was started 5 hours earlier on the date on which this event took place and was added to the portal (31st May). However, to use the word "dash" as part of the headline on the Main Page ITN section is very much US English, and the Main Page should be as version neutral as possible. I believe that simple "100 metres", given the context, is adequate in any language. Further, there is no need to give the sponsor's name: they are not paying Wikipedia, and the name of the event (which is probably not needed anyway) is meaningful and widely understood without it. Suggest rephrase to "Usain Bolt of Jamaica sets a new world record of 9.72 seconds in the 100 metres in New York." Kevin McE (talk) 20:42, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- I suggest changing the world record link to world record (ie links to World record progression 100 metres men) 91.109.198.46 (talk) 20:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate Macedonian elections...articles are updated. SpencerT♦C 17:29, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Macedonian voters go to the polls for the Macedonian parliamentary election, 2008 with reports of violence in ethnic Albanian areas.--TheFEARgod (Ч) 20:27, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Posted. Note that future elections are not normally valid candidates as ITN waits until there are results, but the violence appears to be the story in the item, rather than the election itself. - BanyanTree 22:07, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- We should update the same item with the results later. Hobartimus (talk) 07:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Absolutely. Please feel free to suggest an update once new content is added to the article. Thanks, BanyanTree 23:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Wording comment: Instead of "landslide victory", can we have ..."with ##% of the vote"? SpencerT♦C 11:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Absolutely. Please feel free to suggest an update once new content is added to the article. Thanks, BanyanTree 23:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- We should update the same item with the results later. Hobartimus (talk) 07:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Posted. Note that future elections are not normally valid candidates as ITN waits until there are results, but the violence appears to be the story in the item, rather than the election itself. - BanyanTree 22:07, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Macedonian voters go to the polls for the Macedonian parliamentary election, 2008 with reports of violence in ethnic Albanian areas.--TheFEARgod (Ч) 20:27, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Nominate Australian combat role in Iraq.--Pharos (talk) 18:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- The article has barely more information than the actual blurb and the topic isn't "small" enough that readers can easily extrapolate background. I feel that minimum standards for amount of updated information have not been met on this item. - BanyanTree 23:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- I've added a couple sentences and posted this item. - BanyanTree 11:18, 3 June 2008 (UTC)