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Special nominations

→ Remember, remember the fifth of november,
Gunpowder treason and plot,
Was Guy Fawkes a devil, the Stuarts all saints?
Are we glad that we stopped them... or not?

Kayau Odyssey HUCK FINN to the lighthouse 03:05, 12 February 2010 (UTC)/

  • Support Good one for the 5th of November. Richard 17:09, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose In favor of below. Hi878 (talk) 23:09, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak support - edit 2 is better. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 11:31, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Declined - in favour of Edit 1, with 2 for and 1 against. --Smaug123 (talk) 18:55, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Remember, remember the fifth of november,
Gunpowder treason and plot,
Was Guy Fawkes a devil, the Stuarts all saints?
Are we glad that we stopped them... or not?

Edit 1 - 'Stuart' comes from 'Stewart' which comes from 'Steward'. Kayau Voting IS evil 13:14, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Approved - per WP:SNOW (never have I seen a better example!), with 9 (inc. me) for and 0 against, for November 5. --Smaug123 (talk) 18:57, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Standard nominations

→ The journey of one thousand miles begins with a single step.

Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 21:59, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Love it but oppose - I'm certain it's appeared at least twice before :( Smaug123 (talk) 22:10, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Strong Oppose - Look here, at December 16. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 22:13, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Then I withdraw my nomination. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 22:45, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Thrown out - Nominator withdrew; it was used before, with 0 for and 3 against. --~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 22:57, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Not many of you should presume to be teachers, my brothers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.

How's this? Lots of room for link improvement though. {{Sonia|ping|enlist}} 03:22, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Declined - in favour of Edit 1, with 1 for and 2 against. --Smaug123 (talk) 13:11, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


→ Not many of you should presume to be teachers, my brothers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.

How about this? ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 03:56, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support - Better than the first. Kayau Voting IS evil 04:21, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - Better than first. —mono 04:31, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - The links work really well. --Smaug123 (talk) 08:25, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:53, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support The above quote this one is good, too, but this one has somewhat better links. The quote itself is good, too, because it makes people who had an unsuccessful RFA feel better about it. This quote and its links make me feel better about my unsuccessful RFA; it reminds me that if my RFA was successful, I'd have to make almost no mistakes and take a look at all of my edits before saving them. --Hadger 23:38, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Approved - per consensus, and a particularly good real-life example of how MOTD makes a difference, with 5 for and 0 against, for August 21. --Smaug123 (talk) 13:10, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


→ Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 22:19, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/August 19, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:23, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Love truth, but pardon error.

Basically, it means that we should support good references, but don't ashame those whose refs aren't as good as others. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 22:19, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/August 18, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:20, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

To 3RR is human, to unblock divine.

OK, I just came up with this pun, and thought it was too good not to list. Perhaps a bit too 'inside baseball' to work as a motto though. Robofish (talk) 12:27, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/August 17, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:17, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Listen, kid, we're all in it together.

Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 16:12, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:14, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Listen, kid, we're all in it together.

Edit one per pjoef. This version has my support. Kayau Voting IS evil 10:49, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

[[Image:Symbol recycling vote.svg|20px]] Reopened per lack of consensus. Smaug123 (talk) 08:49, 25 June 2010 (UTC) (IMHO there is consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:14, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/August 16, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 1 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:14, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Mmmmm... tastes like strawberries and cream

An old advert. I wonder if i should link it to Storck but it is talking specifically about campino. Simply south (talk) 15:35, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Weak support - there is no reason to oppose it... Kayau Voting IS evil 01:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support Seems fine. But where is the → supposed to go? It is a red link at the moment. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 02:26, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Conditional support I agree the redlink should be changed. Storck is OK •martyx• tkctgy 10:51, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:36, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/August 15, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:08, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Invicta

Motto of the county of Kent, England. Invicta means undefeated or unconquered. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:41, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:04, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Roma invicta

Edit 1 ~ original version used until the fall of the Western Roman Empire in 476 AD. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:41, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Very weak support - same reason as above. Kayau Voting IS evil 08:39, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak Support Per Kayau. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 02:23, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support I'm really a sucker for anything dealing with Rome! --Rockstonetalk to me! 04:03, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
    But you want to think of Wikipedia as Rome? :) ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 04:05, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - Sounds regal and majestic.. —mono 04:37, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - it does indeed! --Smaug123 (talk) 09:02, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/August 14, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:04, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

→ You are not forgotten.

A special tribute to the missing wikipedians that helped make wikipedia what it is today. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 17:07, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support - I like that - a bit poignant too :) --Smaug123 (talk) 18:08, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - good. All there is to it. PrincessofLlyr royal court 18:22, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support I like it. Derild4921☼ 21:21, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Conditional support if mine fails. Kayau Voting IS evil 00:10, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support both versions. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐) 01:57, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
  • support this version. I think it's slightly less depressing, and voluntary leave doesn't negate that they're not forgotten- Useight, for example. {{Sonia|ping|enlist}} 05:18, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
  • WHAT?!? Useight retired? I didn't know that!!! Kayau Voting IS evil 08:09, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
    • That's what I meant- not forgotten in the least. It's much to the project's loss, but to personal gain, I guess. Sometimes we get so caught up in this that we forget that other things are more important. But that's irrelevant to the motto. {{Sonia|ping|enlist}} 08:17, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Conditonal Support This one works very well, but I think Edit 1 is more appropriate. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 19:04, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/August 13, 2010 (per consensus; 9 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:58, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

→ You are not forgotten.

Because missing WPdians probably left voluntarily. Kayau Voting IS evil 00:10, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support both versions. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐) 01:57, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support Fantastic. I love it. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 19:04, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support (BOTH VERSIONS) ~ I am not sure about the origin of the phrase, but it works and sends out a very good message. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:48, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support (both versions) but I prefer this one •martyx• tkctgy 11:59, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment - We need some sort of consensus on which one of these to use! I support the original. Could people please vote for the one they prefer, rather than voting 'Support both versions'? --Smaug123 (talk) 19:47, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - Less tragic. —mono 04:40, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of the original; 6 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:58, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

→ I know not the real appearance of Mount Lu;
All I value is the yuanfen that brought me to this mountain.

No prize for guessing which poem this came from. SS, I mean Sonia, have you got a better translation please? Thanks Kayau Voting IS evil 00:35, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/August 12, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:53, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Faintly as tolls the evening chime,
Our voices keep tune and our oars keep time,
Soon as the woods on shore look dim,
We'll sing at Saint Ann's our parting hymn;
Row, brothers, row, the stream runs fast,
The rapids are near and the daylight's past!

Thomas Moore (1779–1852), "A Canadian Boat Song" (1804) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:36, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Weak support - not so sure about the woods on shore look dim bit. Also, WP:WIKIFY would be better than WP:WWF IMHO. I also removed the extra |. Kayau Voting IS evil 10:43, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose A bit long winded. --I dream of horses (T) @ 05:03, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
  • The strongest support that I have ever given Might be a bit long-winded, but I don't care. I think that it is perfect. Hi878 isn't home. (Can I take a message?) 00:26, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Kinda long, innit? HalfShadow 06:13, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
  • I agree. It's a little on the long side. The section editing makes the edit summary too long. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐) 14:18, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
  • @HalfShadow and NSD: What's wrong with being long? We've got quite a few long ones... as long as it isn't 200 words it should be OK. Kayau Voting IS evil 08:56, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support Very very strong support - It's great, even though (possibly 'because') it is long - the only slightly odd bit is the woods, as Kayau said, but it's really good! --Smaug123 (talk) 18:45, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/August 11, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 1 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:49, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Faintly as tolls the evening chime,
Our voices keep tune and our oars keep time,
Soon as the woods on shore look dim,
We'll sing at Saint Ann's our parting hymn

Snip/Edit A1. The original is a little TL;DR for my liking •martyx• tkctgy 11:44, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of the original) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:49, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Row, brothers, row, the stream runs fast,
The rapids are near and the daylight's past!

Snip/Edit B1. The original is a little TL;DR for my liking •martyx• tkctgy 11:38, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of the original) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:49, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

→ You know, you haven't stopped talking since I came here? You must have been vaccinated with a phonograph needle.

Rufus T. Firefly (portrayed by Groucho Marx). Duck Soup (directed by Leo McCarey; written by Bert Kalmar, Harry Ruby, Arthur Sheekman and Nat Perrin; starring Groucho Marx, Harpo Marx, Chico Marx, Zeppo Marx, Margaret Dumont, Louis Calhern, Raquel Torres, Edgar Kennedy; music composed by Bert Kalmer andHarry Ruby; cinematography by Henry Sharp; edited by LeRoy Stone; 1939). –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:41, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favor of Edit 1) ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐) 14:32, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

→ You know, you haven't stopped talking since I came here? You must have been vaccinated with a phonograph needle.

Edit 1 with Wikipedia:The Last Word instead of Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:41, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved - Per WP:SNOW, with 6 (inc. mine) for and 0 against, for August 10. --Smaug123 (talk) 09:05, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

→ The man that blushes is not quite a brute.

Edward Young (1681–1765), The Complaint: or, Night-Thoughts on Life, Death, & Immortality, Night VII (1742) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

→ The man that blushes is not quite a brute.

Edit 1 with WP:NICE instead of WP:LOVE. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Weak oppose- Contrasting being nice with "not quite harassment" is something I really can't swallow right now, I'm sorry. One can be nice as sugar on-wiki, but not off-wiki. Niceness is... sort of superficial at times, I guess. I'm not really comfortable with treating wp:harassment so lightly, but I think it's a good quote. {{Sonia|ping|enlist}} 10:28, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose Believe it or not, I thought the exact same thing. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 05:40, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose - that WP:NICE page is terrible IMO. Kayau Voting IS evil 07:41, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Kayau...the WP:NICE page is being considered for deletion. --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:50, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

recycle Reopened BOTH VERSIONS (no consensus) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:54, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Oppose (both versions) Quote is great but the links don't work for me. Plus I'm still rubbish and can't think of anything else! :\ •martyx• tkctgy 10:53, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Thrown out Not a chance. All opposes., with 0 for and 6 against. --—mono 04:34, 27 June 2010 (UTC)


→ One has to grow hard but without ever losing tenderness.

Ernesto "Che" Guevara as quoted in Essential Care: An Ethics of Human Nature (2008) by Leonardo Boff, p. 82 –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:41, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/August 9, 2010 per WP:SNOW Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 19:20, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Elementary, my dear Watson.

Sherlock Holmes (portrayed by Basil Rathbone). The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes (directed by Alfred L. Werker; written by Arthur Conan Doyle (novel), William Gillette (play), Edwin Blum and William Drake (screenplay); starring Basil Rathbone, Nigel Bruce, Ida Lupino, George Zucco, Alan Marshal; music composed and directed by Robert Russell Bennett; 1939). –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:36, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

  • support- heh, that's quite good. {{Sonia|ping|enlist}} 10:37, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Note: I accidentally removed SS's comment, apparently because of an edit conflict. Probably a bug in the MediaWiki software (though of course maybe Chrome's to blame.) Kayau Voting IS evil 10:47, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support •martyx• tkctgy 11:33, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support Yep, looks good to me. Hi878 isn't home. (Can I take a message?) 00:18, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Strong support - I assume it's not been done before, but I don't mind if it has! --Smaug123 (talk) 18:13, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - Yeah, I'm also surprised it hasn't been used before. PrincessofLlyr royal court 18:24, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/August 8, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:07, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

→ An idealist is a person who helps other people to be prosperous

•martyx• tkctgy 11:26, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of Edit 2) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:03, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

→ An idealist is a person who helps other people to be prosperous

Edit 1 as per pjoef.

  • Support Better with the additional link •martyx• tkctgy 11:25, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak support - I highly doubt if we need to tell newbies to be bold, as most newbies are either too bold or inactive anyway. Kayau Voting IS evil 01:14, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak Support The first link is good, but it was the last link that I had a problem with, not the others. Hi878 isn't home. (Can I take a message?) 00:15, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of Edit 2) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:03, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

→ An idealist is a person who helps other people to be prosperous

Edit 2 changed end link to WP:CREATE.

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/August 7, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:03, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Why did you shoo that child? He may be poor, but like us, he is a human being.

This is better as the original is in vernacular Chinese. :) Kayau Voting IS evil 02:07, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of Edit 2) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:59, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Why did you shoo that child? He may be poor, but like us, he is a human being.

Edit 1 It incorperates Kayau's ideas with some new links. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 04:59, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of Edit 2) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:59, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Why did you shoo that child? He may be poor, but like us, he is a human being.

Edit 2 My own idea. --I dream of horses (T) @ 06:11, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/August 6, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:59, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

What if there was only one person? Yet, what if there were 1 trillion people?

Again, I created this motto, emphasizing what is needed for good article length, not cramming so much info that could be notable enough for its own article into one article, yet not making one article for every single detail. Belugaboy Talk to Me! YesY 23:39, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:56, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

What if there was only one person? Yet, what if there were 12 million people?

Edit 1. I'm having 'motto block' today :\ Something along the lines of if everyone read rather than edited then Wikipedia wouldn't be as good as it is •martyx• tkctgy 11:14, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Weak support Definitely better than the other. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 23:36, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:11, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak support fits very loosely... Kayau Voting IS evil 14:09, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Strong support - it isn't loose-fitting, it works well! Actually, I think it would work both ways round, with one lone editor striving to help make the world a better place. Loads of links could work here! --Smaug123 (talk) 20:58, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/August 5, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:56, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

→ No more terrible disaster could befall your people than for them to fall into the hands of a Hero.

I like the message it sends. Hi878 (talk) 03:17, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/August 4, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:43, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

→ De oppresso libre
("To free from oppression")

Motto of the United States Army Special Forces. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:36, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

→ De oppresso libre
("To free from oppression")

Edit one Linking to a more active page. --I dream of horses (T) @ 05:07, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

→ De oppresso libre
("To free from oppression")

Completely different take. How's this? {{Sonia|ping|enlist}} 06:20, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved edit 2 per consensus, for 3rd August. Smaug123 (talk) 21:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

You wouldn't vandalize a house, would you vandalize an article?

Based off of the "You wouldn't steal a car" PSAs. --67.180.161.183(talk)00:35, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support Huh.... Seems pointless to link this, it seems pretty self-explanatory... But maybe link "vandalize" to WP:VANDAL anyways? Hi878 (talk) 04:41, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
    Moved to Edit 1. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 05:27, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak support I dunno, seems bland, but why not? --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:30, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Very-Very but Very Weak Support (A.K.A. "oppose") ~ IMHO it needs a good set of links. I tried to do something in the version below. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:32, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favor of Edit 1) Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 02:30, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

You wouldn't vandalize a house, would you vandalize an article?

Edit 1 ~ using Wikipedia:The motivation of a vandal and Wikipedia:Go ahead, vandalize. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:32, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

recycle Reopened all - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:22, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support - those ads annoy me, it's good to mock them with the second link. --Smaug123 (talk) 18:10, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved per weak consenus; 4 in support and 1 oppose Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 02:30, 21 June 2010 (UTC)


→ I consider myself a citizen of the world.

Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 23:30, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved per consensus (8 supports, no opposes) Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 20:54, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia: Our bots are smarter than most vandals.

Because, let's face it, it's true. If a page gets vandalized, it's either caught outright by Cluebot or even the edit tag tells us it's probably vandalism. HalfShadow 23:27, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support - That makes me laugh out loud! However, should more of it be linked? (Wikipedia and vandals, for example) PrincessofLlyr royal court 23:42, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Conditional Support Only if my Dune quote below that has the same idea passes. Kayau's argument is that a lot of vandalism isn't caught, in that one, and the same argument would apply here, so... Both or none. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 23:45, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Did I !vote on that...oh yes, I thought it was good. There's a wide variety of taste here and sometimes it's hard to tell what will go over well. PrincessofLlyr royal court 00:21, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose per WP:INSULT. Also, I think the Wikipedia: prefix is unnecessary. And ClueBot isn't the ONLY vandalism-reverting robot. Kayau Voting IS evil 06:17, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Well, I can only link one thing to a word, and Cluebot is the most commonly seen bot. There's certainly no reason multiple versions of the motto couldn't be created, each linking to a different bot. HalfShadow 16:22, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:36, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
  • support- why not? {{Sonia|ping|enlist}} 10:38, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Conditional support I think the Wikipedia link needs to be removed also. Is this a proper quotation from somewhere? •martyx• tkctgy 11:32, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Nope all mine. HalfShadow 16:22, 15 June 2010 (UTC)


Approved per consensus (6 support, 1 weak oppose) for July 31 --Smaug123 (talk) 18:18, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Be a nice contributor, not a creepy vandal.

A revised name of the South Park episode "Make love, not Warcraft". A nice message against vandalism Aleksa Lukic (talk) 15:18, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Weak Support Seems a bit bland, but it will work. Hi878 (talk) 16:23, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Question Why is it linked to South Park? Is it an inspiration? I really think that the arrow link must be removed from here. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:26, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose in favor of edit one --I dream of horses (T) @ 17:37, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose - not linked to original quote, and pretty bland anyway. Kayau Voting IS evil 07:47, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined due to the lack of consensus. Also we should not alter quotes. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:07, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Make love, not Warcraft.

Edit 1 ~ with the original title and a different set of links. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:26, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Strong Oppose How about we stay away from any Warcraft references? :) Hi878 (talk) 05:47, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support What's wrong with World of Warcraft? --I dream of horses (T) @ 17:37, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
    Everything. :) Hi878 (talk) 17:58, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Very weak support - this goes into two of our three most boring categories: Love, War, and Bold. Kayau Voting IS evil 07:47, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined - no consensus. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:07, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Make love, not Warcraft.

Edit 2 - more relevant to the "warcraft" aspect. {{Sonia|talk|simple}} 11:09, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Weak oppose So warcraft is cruft? --I dream of horses (T) @ 03:42, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
    • No, it's not. But dismissing it as cruft should not be done, hence the link. {{Sonia|talk|simple}} 03:45, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose Once again, let's stay away from Warcraft. Hi878 (talk) 00:01, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

recycle Reopened all due to lack of consensus. I dream of horses (T) @ 02:14, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Oppose all versions - One, I just don't like the quote. Two, I don't like any of the links. three, I never oppose anything (jk) PrincessofLlyr royal court 03:04, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
    Heh, I've noticed that. Instead of opposing, you say Comment, and then whatever reason you have for opposing. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 04:41, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose The more I look at it the less I like it •martyx• tkctgy 10:22, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined no consensus. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:07, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

An apple a day keeps the doctor away.

Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 15:59, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment - Um, I see no evidence whatsoever that kindness keeps vandals away. Perhaps the second should link to dispute, edit-warring, something that is actually prevented by kindness? PrincessofLlyr royal court 16:29, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose I agree. I'll add my idea. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 23:41, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favor of Edit 1) Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 23:06, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

An apple a day keeps the doctor away.

Edit 1 ~ Per above. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 23:41, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:49, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support Kayau Voting IS evil 10:49, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose I would hope being kind would not keep Dispute resolution away! •martyx• tkctgy 11:30, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
    • Reply - Martyx, either you're new here or you haven't been here for ages. You see, we often correlate the meanings of words with the meanings of shortcuts. :) Kayau Voting IS evil 01:13, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
      • Reply It's been a while since I've been back here (wiki-break and all aside).. Just the way I'm reading it is "An [KIND] a day keeps the [DISPUTE RESOLUTION] away." Surely we want people to resolve their disputes? As per Edit 2 anyway (: •martyx• tkctgy 15:54, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - yep, this is better. PrincessofLlyr royal court 03:10, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐) 14:22, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 30, 2010 (per concenus: five supports and one oppose) Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 23:06, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

An apple a day keeps the doctor away.

Edit 2 ~ Per above. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 23:41, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support My preference •martyx• tkctgy 11:30, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favor of Edit 1) Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 23:06, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Broadcast yourself

Simply south (talk) 20:22, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined per WP:SNOW. I dream of horses (T) @ 05:04, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

→ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office.

Basically meaning we don't like vandals but any 'great' EDIAN could be commended (not just WP:ADMIN) •martyx• tkctgy 11:18, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Neutral - to be honest, it's a bit strange... Kayau Voting IS evil 11:27, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose Hm, I think you're misunderstanding the meaning of the original quote slightly, unless I am. It's basically saying we punish the petty thieves for trivial crimes, but we honour the great thieves by appointing them to public office. The original quote was meant in a satirical way. And although I see how you read it (reading the phrase "great ones" as meaning, well, great ones, rather than meaning "great thieves"), I think it's probably a little risky to refer to editing as a great crime. Kindest regards, SpitfireTally-ho! 11:51, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Withdrawn I agree with Spitfire and it would seem I definitely need a grammar lesson :\ •martyx• tkctgy 12:30, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Rejected because it was withdrawn by the nominator. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 01:35, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Speak softly and carry a big stick.

Try to negotiate in disputes, but make sure to enforce our policies during them. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 01:42, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favor of Edit 1) Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 23:19, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Speak softly and carry a big stick.

I don't understand the DR bit, really. Kayau Voting IS evil 06:06, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 29, 2010 (per consenus; four in support and no opposes) Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 23:19, 17 June 2010 (UTC)


→ If we have chosen the position in life in which we can most of all work for mankind, no burdens can bow us down, because they are sacrifices for the benefit of all.

Karl Heinrich Marx (1818–1883), Letter to His Father (1837) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:36, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved per WP:SNOW. I dream of horses (T) @ 01:21, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

→ We've got movie sign!

Can someone please help with the links for this one? Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 01:35, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined per consenus Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 17:52, 15 June 2010 (UTC)


→ If there is hope... it lies in the proles.

Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 16:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 27, 2010 (per WP:SNOW) Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 17:48, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Starve a success, feed a frustration.

A quote that I just discovered on Bewitched. Not sure if this is the original place, but this is where I heard it. Oh, and what do you all think of my new signature? :) ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 03:40, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Oppose - first bit biased, second bit wrong, and both bits not linked to each other. Kayau Voting IS evil 07:43, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
    The first part: I completely agree, but it was all that I could think of. Second part: Let me explain the context, then it might work. The person who said this was sick, but was eating ice cream. Her reasoning was, "starve a success, feed a frustration." I'm thinking it to mean that, even though vandals are frustrating, we must give them a good thing, like assuming good faith. However, the fact that I have to explain it might mean that it doesn't work, but whatever. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 22:41, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose Should we start feeding trolls? --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:55, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
    What? Where did that come from? ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 03:11, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
    "Feed" a frustration, when the word "frustration" is linked to vandal, which is really a troll. --I dream of horses (T) @ 18:12, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
    Are we not supposed to assume good faith with vandals? Is that not why there are warning templates, instead of just instant blocking? Hi878 isn't home. (Can I take a message?) 05:23, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment Wow, I didn't realize how stupid this sounded until now... Withdrawn. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 05:57, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (nom withdrawn). Kayau Voting IS evil 10:29, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Trust makes our dreams come true.

From the famous 2012 constitutional package advert. Kayau Voting IS evil 06:03, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 26, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:00, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Liberté, égalité, fraternité
("Liberty, equality, brotherhood")

Liberté, égalité, fraternité  Chzz  ►  08:36, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support - not sure if the second link works, but it's a good message to get across. Kayau Voting IS evil 12:23, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support Good message. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 22:45, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak support Can somebody provide a translation? That's the only complaint I have. --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:43, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
    • Reply - I don't think that is necessary because almost everyone's heard of it, and those who haven't can look at the arrow link. Kayau Voting IS evil 05:42, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
      • I have never heard of it before, myself. --I dream of horses (T) @ 19:50, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - I love this one. I would also support the addition of a translation as I don't think there's any reason we shouldn't. PrincessofLlyr royal court 02:57, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support •martyx• tkctgy 11:15, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support ~ strange but it has not been used before. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:09, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 25, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:56, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

→ In varietate concordia
("United in Diversity")

Motto of the European Union translated into the 23 official languages, all having equal standing. The Latin version is used as a compromise. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 24, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 1 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:40, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

→ In varietate concordia
("United in Diversity")

Edit 1 with WP:WRITERS instead of WP:PEDIANS –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of the original) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:40, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Open the pod bay doors, (please) HAL.

David Bowman (portrayed by Keir Dullea). 2001: A Space Odyssey (directed by Stanley Kubrick; written by Stanley Kubrick and Arthur C. Clarke; starring Keir Dullea, Gary Lockwood, William Sylvester, Daniel Richter, Leonard Rossiter; cinematography by Geoffrey Unsworth; edited by Ray Lovejoy; 1969). –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 23, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:37, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

→ How frugal is this Chariot
That bears a Human soul!

I suppose the linking could be better. CapitalSasha ~ talk 20:47, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support No, no, I like it. Hi878 (talk) 21:36, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
    Switched to Edit 1. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 05:34, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - I would say "I like that", but I've used that in four !votes just below. So, I think it's a good quote and copyright is a new link. PrincessofLlyr royal court 03:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak Support ~ The set of links is good, but I think it needs more links for the second part. I changed its format with the original, and I added a new version. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:36, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Conditional support if the below fails. --I dream of horses (T) @ 21:58, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:34, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

→ How frugal is this Chariot
That bears a Human soul!

Edit 1 ~ added links to the second part. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:36, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support Good job! ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 05:34, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Question - what is it supposed to mean? I'm confused. Kayau Voting IS evil 06:25, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
    • Answer: Those are the final two lines of "There is no Frigate like a Book" an upbeat style poem about life written by Emily Dickinson. She is saying that the ability to read and imagine is better than a physical trip to the same location. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:43, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support Can't believe I haven't noticed this before. --I dream of horses (T) @ 21:58, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support •martyx• tkctgy 11:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 22, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:34, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

→ It matters not where you live, or what rank of life you hold, the evil or the blessing will reach you all.

And some Paine for good measure. Hi878 (talk) 03:17, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support - I like that. Add: Still support this one over edit 1.PrincessofLlyr royal court 03:06, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose in favor of Edit 1. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 05:21, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of Edit 2) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:29, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

→ It matters not where you live, or what rank of life you hold, the evil or the blessing will reach you all.

Edit 1: emphasizes the point that admins don't have extra powers. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 05:21, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support both versions, but with a preference for this one. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:39, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose What I was aiming for was anyone with extra permissions, not just admins. This could be aimed at admins, rollbackers, bureaucrats, or anyone, really. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 05:21, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of Edit 2) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:29, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

→ It matters not where you live, or what rank of life you hold, the evil or the blessing will reach you all.

Edit 2 ~ I think we can all agree on this one. Changed the second link to WP:UAL. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 23:29, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Strong Support this one - I was thinking of exactly the same linking when looking at the first two. Kayau Voting IS evil 06:26, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
  • support- yes, exactly. {{Sonia|ping|enlist}} 06:49, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support all versions! --I dream of horses (T) @ 22:00, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support •martyx• tkctgy 10:57, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support ALL versions, but with a preference for this one. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:07, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 21, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:28, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Yes. While swords are clashing, I shall fence in rhyme, and improvise a poem, a ballade.

I'm feeling like a bit of Cyrano tonight. Translation is by Louis Untermeyer. The translation was comissioned for the Easton Press edition, and I'm pretty sure is only found there, so you all might not see this wording anywhere. Hi878 (talk) 03:17, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment - I don't really feel like the fence in rhyme link works. I haven't thought of a better idea yet. But I like the quote and love Cyrano! PrincessofLlyr royal court 13:16, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
    Well, what I was thinking was this: Vandals are all attacking x page. You are trying to fight them off, and while you are doing that, you are also trying to improve the article, hopefully getting it to the point of a featured article. Hi878 (talk) 21:46, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
    Okay then, that works. If I'm nit-picky, it's also suggesting that FA's can be improvised. However, I will still Support. PrincessofLlyr royal court 22:50, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support ~ excellent! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:52, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support not bad. Kayau Voting IS evil 06:29, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support •martyx• tkctgy 10:48, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 20, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:24, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

→ The fact of the matter is, you don't give up what's natural. Anything I've fantasized about, I've done.

A be bold quote. --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:38, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support Good quote. Hi878 (talk) 18:35, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support ~ another very good one. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:53, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak support - oh dear, now that I'm back it looks like MOTD is declining in quality. :( Kayau Voting IS evil 07:58, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
    I hope you aren't being serious, because that is a bit rude. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 22:50, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
    I wasn't. :P Sorry if you found it rude though; I didn't mean to. Kayau Voting IS evil 04:43, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
    Ok, good. :) ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 23:33, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak Support •martyx• tkctgy 10:47, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 19, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:21, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

→ My friends, the time for action is upon us.

And another be bold quote. --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:38, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support I think WP:BOLD is overused, but if it wasn't, we couldn't use half of our quotes, so... Hi878 (talk) 18:34, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support ~ You did a very good job here. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:55, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support •martyx• tkctgy 10:47, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 18, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:19, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.

Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 01:18, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Conditional support if mine should fail. --I dream of horses (T) @ 01:54, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined in favor of Edit 1) Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 15:31, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.

Is this a bit extreme? --I dream of horses (T) @ 01:54, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment- first, can you explain the links, because I having a little trouble understanding it. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 02:22, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
  • support No, it doesn't seem extreme to me. @Secret Saturdays: People who just don't have enough clue or common sense or social skills to edit, will eventually be embroiled in big messy arguments. {{Sonia|ping|enlist}} 09:05, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - good one. Kayau Voting IS evil 09:31, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support •martyx• tkctgy 11:17, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - yep, good. PrincessofLlyr royal court 14:11, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved per consensus. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:43, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

→ My mama always said: "Life is (was) like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get."

Forrest Gump (portrayed by Tom Hanks). Forrest Gump (directed by Robert Zemeckis; written by Eric Roth, Winston Groom(novel); narrated by Tom Hanks, starring Tom Hanks, Robin Wright Penn, Gary Sinise, Mykelti Williamson, Sally Field; music composed and directed by Alan Silvestri; cinematography by Don Burgess; edited by Arthur Schmidt; 1994). –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:31, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support Perfect links. Hi878 (talk) 18:16, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose So, we can never tell when an article is going to be nominated for featured article? --I dream of horses (T) @ 23:57, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
    • Reply: Oh no. I was referring to the procedure for approving the featured article of the day, which is very similar to our own. If you are not part of WP:MOTD, You never know what MOTTO you're gonna get. The WP:DEV wlink for "Life", which is not so appropriate in this context, serves only to get editors to read it. In any case, I associated it with the life of an article. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:54, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose- This motto is frequently used. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 18:56, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose - it's great that we've finally gotten an arrow link for this, but this doesn't really make sense IMHO. Kayau Voting IS evil 08:00, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined - should be added to FUI, and per consensus. Kayau Voting IS evil 04:42, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

→ It's always wrong to hate, but it's never wrong to love.

Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 02:50, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support - Simple is always good, even though I'm thoroughly sick of wikilove. (but only in quotes...) PrincessofLlyr royal court 03:10, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support Good links. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 03:25, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak Support – Short yet concise. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 05:19, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak Support ~ I am not a "true fan" of Lady Germanotta, but I like it. I do not really like the combination of WP:MASTODONS and WP:LOVE, so there are two alternative versions below. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:41, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 14, 2010 (per consenus; 5 supports and no opposes) Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 03:44, 13 June 2010 (UTC) originally approved by I dream of horses

→ It's always wrong to hate, but it's never wrong to love.

Edit 1 ~ WP:HATE Vs. WP:LOVE ~ –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:41, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (In favor of original) Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 03:44, 13 June 2010 (UTC) originally declined by I dream of horses

→ It's always wrong to hate, but it's never wrong to love.

Edit 2 ~ WP:MASTODONS Vs. WP:BONAFIDE ~ –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:41, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (In favor of original) Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 03:44, 13 June 2010 (UTC) originally declined by I dream of horses

→ Common Sense Is No Longer Common

Just something I've noticed throughout my life. Not to be insulting but Pondered
Mlpearc pull my chain 'Tribs 00:13, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Oppose - I've corrected the first link. Anyway, I don't understand it at all. Kayau Voting IS evil 02:09, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
  • My Mistake this was Life based not Wiki based. Mlpearc pull my chain 'Tribs 02:24, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (Author withdrew) Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 03:40, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs

Note, I am unsure how to format the origin for this; Oxford Dictionary of Quotes says "mid-19th century", and mentions early usage, "On ne fait pas d'omelette sans casser des oeufs" (Robespierre / Napoleon), "We are walking upon eggs, and whether we tread East or tread West, the omelet wiil not be made without breaking of some" (T.P. Thompson, _Audi Alteram Partem_, 1859) and "My dear Miss Flora, you cannot make an omelette without breaking eggs," I. (R.L. Stevenson, 1894). Best backlink I can think of is Proverb?  Chzz  ►  08:19, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support Yes, I think it works. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 22:44, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
    I think I have a better idea. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 03:10, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose I think this encourages overuse of WP:BOLD. --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:45, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
    • Reply: we are doing this already. We have put too much into love, war and bold. Kayau Voting IS evil 06:32, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
      • Comment: And I think I remember someone who nominated two mottoes not that long ago that were both "be bold"....-PrincessofLlyr royal court 12:18, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
        • Reply and whenever I say that we are having too much of a kind, the answer is usually, 'why, I don't think we can have enough of one kind of motto.' Shrug. Kayau Voting IS evil 12:33, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
no Declined in favor of edit two. I dream of horses (T) @ 19:52, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs

I think this provides more of a cautious statement. --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:45, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Conditional Support This is the better of the two, I'll support this if mine fails.
no Declined in favor of edit two. I dream of horses (T) @ 19:52, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs

The links seem to go together better with this one. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 03:10, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved per WP:SNOW. I dream of horses (T) @ 19:51, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

→ There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Shakey.  Chzz  ►  08:58, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Oppose So shaky that it just collapsed. :) ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 22:46, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose The links conflict too much with each other. --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:42, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose - it's just a huge set of unrelated links that are inspired from the words. :( Kayau Voting IS evil 06:31, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
no Declined per WP:SNOW. I dream of horses (T) @ 21:55, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Glue is for paper, not for skin, and don't put it in your soup.

There goes another one of my embarassing secrets. Kayau Voting IS evil 07:52, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved per WP:SNOW. I dream of horses (T) @ 18:07, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

→ You will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!

Not really one of my best ones, but it has some potential. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 18:54, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined per WP:SNOW. --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:58, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Have a nice day.

I checked this time and this phrase hasn't appeared. It just means try to be nice by at least tell them to have a nice day. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 02:36, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support! - this is so simply brilliant. Only, do you have to link to the article about it? That kind of puts the phrase in a bad light. PrincessofLlyr royal court 02:54, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
    It does? Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 03:04, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
    I don't get it... ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 03:24, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support If it truly hasn't been used before, then it is great! ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 03:24, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - It has not been used at all, and it is simply great. Have a nice day (^___^)! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:47, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 13, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:37, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

→ But where am I? Be frank with me. Hide nothing. In what place, on what spot have I fallen from the sky?

Took me a while to figure out a link for the last part, but I think that they work. Hi878 (talk) 03:17, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 12, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:34, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Aromatic plants bestow
No spicy fragrance while they grow;
But crushed or trodden to the ground,
Diffuse their balmy sweets around.

Oliver Goldsmith (1728–1774), The Captivity, An Oratorio, Act I –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:31, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support Good links. Hi878 (talk) 18:19, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Strong support Love it! --I dream of horses (T) @ 23:51, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support – The quote works very well. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 05:25, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 11, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:17, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

→ In hoc signo vinces
("with this as your standard you shall have victory")

Or "with this sign you will win." –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:31, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support But maybe link the translation, too? Hi878 (talk) 18:18, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support Yeah, linking the translation might help a lot. --I dream of horses (T) @ 23:52, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - can't go wrong with article development. PrincessofLlyr royal court 02:57, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support – A short, concise quote. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 05:25, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment ~ I wlinked the translation too (per discussion). –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:15, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 10, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:15, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Love, then, hath every bliss in store;
'Tis friendship, and 'tis something more.
Each other every wish they give;
Not to know love is not to live.

John Gay (1685–1732), Fable LXIII: "PLUTUS, CUPID, AND TIME", Fables (1727) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:31, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support I like the links. Hi878 (talk) 18:18, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak support So, if you aren't a wikipedian, you don't know how to live? --I dream of horses (T) @ 23:54, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
    • Yes! Or you are missing one of the best parts of life (^___^). –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:10, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support – I like the quote. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 05:26, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 9, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:10, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Played by the gate at the foot of the garden,
My view stretches out from the fence to the wall,
No words could explain, no actions determine,
Just watching the trees and the leaves as they fall.

Joy Division (Ian Curtis, Peter Hook, Stephen Morris and Bernard Sumner) "THE ETERNAL", Closer (1979) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:31, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support Good links. The "the trees" link was a redlink, but I think I fixed it. Hi878 (talk) 18:17, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support Nice little quote you have there, and nice linking to change the meaning of it. --I dream of horses (T) @ 23:56, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support – The links work well. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 05:26, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 8, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:06, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Do not betray, do not be excessive, do not kill a newborn child.

I really have some doubts with the links, but I hope they work. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 04:15, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support ~ Another good one. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:25, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose I don't think you realize this, but WP:BITE, and WP:NEWBIE link to the same page. (I forgot to sign my post. Sorry, I dream of horses (T) @ 03:34, 30 May 2010 (UTC))
  • Oppose In favor of Edit 1. Hi878 (talk) 23:54, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:02, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Do not betray, do not be excessive, do not kill a newborn child.

Edit 1 ~ Relinked "kill" to "assume bad faith" and "excessive" to the "please be careful" section of bold. --I dream of horses (T) @ 03:40, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Neutral- It wasn't the first time that two links that went to the same page was in a quote (in fact, the motto for December 6 of last year had two links to the same page), but this could work too. :P Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 05:17, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support I like these links. Hi878 (talk) 23:54, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose Rather controversial sounding. Doc Quintana (talk) 03:04, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:04, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Support - I like this one. (liked the original too, but these links are better, IMO) PrincessofLlyr royal court 02:58, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 7, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 1 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:02, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

→ I like to praise and reward loudly, to blame quietly.

I had a little bit of trouble getting a good link for "blame quietly". Hopefully, this will suffice. If not, I'm sure we can figure it out. --I dream of horses (T) @ 18:15, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support Good links! The second is fine, in my opinion. Hi878 (talk) 00:10, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
    Switched to Edit 1. Hi878 (talk) 23:53, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support but there is an alternative version below. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:45, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support – Like the links of this one. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 05:32, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 6, 2010 (per consensus; 3 in support and 1 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:59, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

→ I like to praise and reward loudly, to blame quietly.

Edit 1 with an alternative set of links. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:45, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Weak oppose Call me biased, but I like my links better. --I dream of horses (T) @ 03:35, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support I like this one. Hi878 (talk) 23:53, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support This one is decent. Doc Quintana (talk) 03:04, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose in favor of original. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 05:32, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of the original; 3 in support and 2 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:59, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

→ What do you think I am, completely without any moral whatsits, what are they called, those moral things?

Kind of funny, in my opinion. Hi878 (talk) 19:42, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Oppose Civlity isn't just morality. It's wikipedia policy. --I dream of horses (T) @ 02:55, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
    • But it is morality. You can't argue with that. Hi878 (talk) 04:26, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
      • And I was aiming for humor. :) Hi878 (talk) 04:30, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
        • I know you aiming for humor, but this is a rather confusing quote. --I dream of horses (T) @ 17:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Rejected in favor of Edit 1. ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 03:44, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

→ What do you think I am, completely without any moral whatsits, what are they called, those moral things?

Edit 1 ~ How about this? Hi878 (talk) 17:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 5, 2010 per consensus (3 in favor, 0 against). ~~ Hi878 (Come yell at me!) 03:44, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Most joyful let the Poet be;
It is through him that all men see.

A general rallying quote. --I dream of horses (T) @ 06:54, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support- I like it! (Although, the last one could also be linked to some kind of page views stats page?) {{Sonia|talk|simple}} 08:01, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - Very good. Lots of Wikipedians lose hope and humor. PrincessofLlyr royal court 13:31, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support – I like the quote and the links. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 21:13, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support Good links. Hi878 (talk) 23:55, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
    Moved to Edit 3. Hi878 (talk) 18:15, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved per WP:SNOW. I dream of horses (T) @ 02:20, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Most joyful let the Poet be;
It is through him that all men see.

Edit 1 ~ Per Sonia. --I dream of horses (T) @ 15:22, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment - in favor of original. I think the statistics link is not clear enough, while the link used originally quite clearly states the point. This one isn't bad, just not as clear IMO. PrincessofLlyr royal court 15:53, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose In favor of original Edit 3. Hi878 (talk) 23:55, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

no Declined in favor of original. I dream of horses (T) @ 02:20, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Most joyful let the Poet be;
It is through him that all men see.

Edit 2 –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:51, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Oppose In favor of Edit 3. Hi878 (talk) 18:15, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak support And another favorite. --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:42, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined in favor of original. I dream of horses (T) @ 02:20, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Most joyful let the Poet be;
It is through him that all men see.

Edit 3 –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:51, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support This one is my favorite. Hi878 (talk) 18:15, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak support Beside the original, this is my favorite. --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:41, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined in favor of original. I dream of horses (T) @ 02:20, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Most joyful let the Poet be;
It is through him that all men see.

Edit 4 –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:51, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support ALL VERSIONS –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:51, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose In favor of Edit 3. Hi878 (talk) 18:15, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose We aren't talking about the news here. --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:43, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose all of above except original, with Edit 3 being second favorite. PrincessofLlyr royal court 02:38, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined in favor of original. I dream of horses (T) @ 02:20, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

→ My pride fell with my fortunes.

William Shakespeare (1564–1616), As You Like It, Act I, Scene II (1623) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:32, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support Good link, I think it works. Hi878 (talk) 01:00, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

recycle Reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 22:20, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support - I like that policy (can't think of what else to call it, even though that's not technically right) and it works well with the quote. PrincessofLlyr royal court 19:03, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Neutral So, what would the fortune be? --I dream of horses (T) @ 17:12, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
    • Dunno, the number of edits, which slows down? ~ lol –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:46, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 3, 2010 (per consensus: 3 in favor, 0 against) Hi878 (talk) 03:46, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Your life is worth much more than gold.

"Jamming"; Exodus (1977). –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:55, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support Link works, quote is good. Hi878 (talk) 01:00, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

recycle Reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 22:20, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support. Link fits well with motto. ~AH1(TCU) 23:17, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support I have another idea for this motto, but since I like the current version and consensus is leaning toward support, I'll support it. --I dream of horses (T) @ 17:06, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
    • Wait? I can do a conditional support? I'll do that then! --I dream of horses (T) @ 17:33, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
      • You don't have to follow in what consensus is leaning towards, you can vote how you like. Just thought i would point that out. Simply south (talk) 22:16, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/July 2, 2010 (per cconsensus: 4 in favor, 0 against) Hi878 (talk) 03:35, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Your life is worth much more than gold.

I'm not sure if it's any better, but it's worth a shot. Wikipedia is, after all, gold. --I dream of horses (T) @ 17:33, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Oppose I don't like the second link. Hi878 (talk) 17:55, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Rejected (in favor of original) Hi878 (talk) 03:35, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

→ In times of difficulty we must not lose sight of our achievements, must see the bright future and must pluck up our courage.

Mao Zedong (1893–1976), Serve the People (September 8, 1944) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:50, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support Where did you find this set of quotes? They are all really good! Hi878 (talk) 18:52, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
    • It's a secret! ~ lol ~ on books and on other sources such as electronic files or the www (Wikiquote included of course). –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:08, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support. Encouraging and Communalist. ~AH1(TCU) 23:22, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
  • comment- I'm not particularly happy with the message "be bold when edit warring". If the first link can be changed, maybe to Criticism of Wikipedia or such-like, I will support. {{Sonia|talk|simple}} 11:04, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support I like this version the best. Rally the troops! --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:33, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved per WP:SNOW. I dream of horses (T) @ 03:36, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

→ In times of difficulty we must not lose sight of our achievements, must see the bright future and must pluck up our courage.

Edit 1 ~ per Sonia. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:25, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support BOTH VERSIONS ~ Criticism of Wikipedia is in the main space, but it's about wikipedia, so I think it works well. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:25, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose In favor of the original. Hi878 (talk) 18:11, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Conditional support if the original fails. --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:33, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined in favor for original. I dream of horses (T) @ 03:36, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

→ All's well that ends well

Simply south (talk) 22:27, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved per WP:SNOW. I dream of horses (T) @ 03:36, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

→ I'm gonna take this night and make it Evergreen.

Simply south (talk) 22:46, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Medium-ish support Good links; not sure if I like the quote. Hi878 (talk) 00:12, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support I like the quote, myself. --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:18, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support ~ It is good enough for me. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:27, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Approved per consensus. --I dream of horses (T) @ 05:32, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Don't you hear my call,
though you're many years away,
Don't you hear me calling you?

Anyone ever heard the song '39? --67.180.161.183(talk)03:02, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Extremely weak oppose The quote is good, I just don't like the links. Hi878 (talk) 03:14, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
    Response-- Can I see how you think it should be? --67.180.161.183(talk)03:16, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
    I can't think of a set of links at the moment, I just don't like these. I'll come up with some later, though. Hi878 (talk) 03:22, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
    Well, I'm brilliant. Took me a while to figure out what the links meant. :) I do like it, now that I've realized what they are. Changed to Support. Hi878 (talk) 03:29, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - Actually, I like the links. Could possibly be convinced to change for a very, very, very good edit, but I like this one. PrincessofLlyr royal court 03:24, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support + changed the arrow link to point to "'39" –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:41, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support In spite of my exclusionistic tendencies, I think this motto and linkage is very much true. --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:01, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved per WP:SNOW. --I dream of horses (T) @ 05:32, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

"Why did they lock the room?"
"Too many people were going in and taking stuff."

If it were from a book, I would say what book it was from. But it's not from a book, is it? --67.180.161.183(talk)00:35, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved per WP:SNOW --I dream of horses (T) @ 05:32, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Make love, not war.

Suprisingly, this one hasn't been used yet. It's worth a shot. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 19:56, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Conditional Support This hasn't been used? Wow... Anyhoo, I'll support this, if nobody likes mine. Hi878 (talk) 04:15, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
    Oppose It's been used before. Hi878 (talk) 00:15, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak Support (both versions) because —surprisingly ... but not really (^___^)— it has been used before on February 7, 2007. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:08, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Neutral - per Pjoef Noneofyour (talk) 22:59, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose – Already used. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 02:09, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose in favor of edit one. --I dream of horses (T) @ 17:35, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
    • I'm going to withdraw my nomination seeing that the motto has already been used. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 00:48, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (nominator withdrew) Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 22:58, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Make love, not war.

Edit 1 ~ I like this link better. What do you all think? Hi878 (talk) 04:15, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Oppose – Already used. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 02:09, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support Yes, already used, but we haven't used it in two or three years. --I dream of horses (T) @ 17:35, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment Already been used, so ignore this nomination. Hi878 (talk) 00:15, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support I think we can reuse it after two and half years. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:18, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
    Even though I withdrew the nomination? No point in keeping these two open; both have been withdrawn. Hi878 (talk) 04:44, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (nominator withdrew) Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 22:58, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

→ If you walk the footsteps of a stranger
You'll learn things you never knew you never knew.

I'm thinking we could also use WP:Dispute resolution, WP:Discuss, don't vote or WP:3O. Or something else altogether. {{Sonia|talk|simple}} 21:44, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support - Love that quote and I think you've got great idea on the links. Not sure WP:3O works as well as the other links, any of which seem acceptable. PrincessofLlyr royal court 22:01, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose In favor of Edit 1. Hi878 (talk) 00:11, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support Simple is best. --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:21, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support THIS VERSION –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:30, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support – This quote works perfectly. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 21:15, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/June 26, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 1 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:02, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ You think the only people who are people
Are the people who look and think like you;
But if you walk the footsteps of a stranger
You'll learn things you never knew you never knew.

Edit 1 How's this? {{Sonia|talk|simple}} 23:08, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support I like the links! Hi878 (talk) 00:11, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Conditional support if the original fails. --I dream of horses (T) @ 00:21, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Conditional Support ~ same as I dream of horses. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:30, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment - could we use them both? They have totally separate meanings (b/c of the links). If they were separated by a few months, would anyone notice (or care)? PrincessofLlyr royal court 15:55, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of the original) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:02, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Assurance is a jewel worth waiting for.

An inclusionist quote. --I dream of horses (T) @ 18:11, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support - Good. Of course, the deletionists won't agree... PrincessofLlyr royal court 18:28, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support But who cares about the deletionists? Hi878 (talk) 00:09, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:46, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/June 25, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:57, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ In critical moments, even the very powerful have need of the weakest.

A very nice, "we really ARE the same inside" quote. --I dream of horses (T) @ 18:07, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support - Very good message with great links. PrincessofLlyr royal court 18:24, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
    In favor of edit 1. PrincessofLlyr royal court 03:29, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
  • support- Great. {{Sonia|talk|simple}} 21:32, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support Good links. Hi878 (talk) 00:08, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
    Moved to Edit 1. Hi878 (talk) 03:08, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support BOTH VERSIONS ~ wOw!!! The fabulist par excellence!
  • Conditional support if Edit 1 fails. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 17:34, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:55, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ In critical moments, even the very powerful have need of the weakest.

Edit 1 ~ I added WP:COOL for "In critical moments" –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:03, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

  • support- this makes it even better, I reckon. {{Sonia|talk|simple}} 09:29, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support The first link enhances the entire quote. --I dream of horses (T) @ 03:36, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support – The first link makes the quote better. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 17:34, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support The first link makes it perfect. Hi878 (talk) 03:08, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - agree with above. More links=better. PrincessofLlyr royal court 03:27, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/June 24, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:55, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

I am what I am and I do what I do

Bland motto although i'm surprised it hasn't been used before. Simply south (talk) 22:09, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Oppose I'd hate to be a "PC nazi", but this seems to make fun of people with substance abuse issues. --I dream of horses (T) @ 02:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Whoops. Rereading it i just realised how and that was not my intention. I'll have another go. Simply south (talk) 17:48, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Very weak oppose I'm siding with above. However, it would work in a emergency, but I would rather not use it. Hi878 (talk) 04:25, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Note: this phrase appears on Smif-n-Wessun's a song, "Wrektime", from their 1995 album Dah Shinin' and also on "J'suis Comme J'suis" a song by hip-hop band 83 from their 2003 album La Suite Logique. The phrase is in common use, and I don't know who to attribute it to. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:42, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
    • No point in attributing it to anyone because. Simply south (talk) 20:07, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose – Dislike the links. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 17:35, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of Edit 2) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:51, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

I am what I am and I do what I do.

Edit 1 ~ Here's a more politically correct version. Wikipedians edit pages. --I dream of horses (T) @ 16:59, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support These links are good. Hi878 (talk) 17:37, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
    Moved to Edit 2. Hi878 (talk) 17:52, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of Edit 2) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:51, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

I am what I am and I do what I do

Edit 2 ~ I think the links are slightly better. Simply south (talk) 17:48, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support Definitely the best link idea so far. Hi878 (talk) 17:52, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Conditional support Sounds good. I like it as much as my own. Support is conditional on my motto being rejected. --I dream of horses (T) @ 17:57, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - I like Edit 1 too, but think perhaps this is slightly more accurate. PrincessofLlyr royal court 18:27, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support THIS VERSION. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:42, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support – Better links than the original. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 17:36, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/June 23, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:51, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ "Some factual information for you. Have you any idea how much damage that bulldozer would suffer if I just let it roll straight over you?"
"How much?" said Arthur.
"None at all," said Mr Prosser.

Another one. I like the message it gives. I can use people talking in a nomination, right? Hi878 (talk) 19:14, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Oppose So blocks don't damage anything? What about your reputation?--I dream of horses (T) @ 02:57, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
    Actually, with all due respect, what it says is that the bulldozer (sysop) would not suffer any harm. At least, that's the way I read it. PrincessofLlyr royal court 03:17, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
    And that is the correct way to read it. The admin isn't hurt at all. :) Hi878 (talk) 04:23, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
    • facepalm* Thanks, for pointing that out to me. Support --I dream of horses (T) @ 17:03, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • support, I like it. {{Sonia|talk|simple}} 05:07, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - besides making sense, it's funny! PrincessofLlyr royal court 18:25, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak Support ~ it is missing something. I tried to add more and different links to the version below. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:06, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/June 22, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:47, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ "Some factual information for you. Have you any idea how much damage that bulldozer would suffer if I just let it roll straight over you?"
"How much?" said Arthur.
"None at all," said Mr Prosser.

Edit 1 –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:06, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Conditional Support if original is rejected. Personally, I like both. This one has more links, which is good, and I think the link to rollback is very well placed, so it might be fractionally better, while the original is funnier. PrincessofLlyr royal court 20:11, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Conditional support per PrincessofLlyr. --I dream of horses (T) @ 03:38, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Very weak oppose I love the rollback link. However, I think mine is just a tad funnier, and since Douglas Adams wrote it, I think that it is better to go with funnier ones. Hi878 (talk) 23:51, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of the original) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:47, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ "Some factual information for you. Have you any idea how much damage that bulldozer would suffer if I just let it roll straight over you?"
"How much?" said Arthur.
"None at all," said Mr Prosser.

Edit 2 -- by another user; a mix of the two. --67.180.161.183(talk)03:09, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Oppose Why did you put the link there? Doesn't make sense, in my opinion. I still like mine. Hi878 (talk) 03:12, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of the original) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:47, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ A learning experience is one of those things that say, "You know that thing you just did? Don't do that."

This is a good one, too. Hi878 (talk) 18:50, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support - Not that I know many vandals who follow this, unfortunately. (Do you have a photographic memory or just spend too much time reading Douglas Adams? ) PrincessofLlyr royal court 19:01, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
    • I spend far too much time reading Douglas Adams. :) But you have to admit, he has some pretty good quotes. Hi878 (talk) 19:04, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support Well, there's one way to think of a block! --I dream of horses (T) @ 02:59, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • support- :) {{Sonia|talk|simple}} 05:07, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Conditional Support if edit 1 fails. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:15, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/June 21, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:44, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ A learning experience is one of those things that say, "You know that thing you just did? Don't do that."

Edit 1 –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:15, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Weak oppose Honestly, I think the original is better because the links fit better. --I dream of horses (T) @ 03:39, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose All biases aside, I do think that my links are better. Plus, you changed the quote a tiny bit. :) I fixed the mistake. Hi878 (talk) 23:50, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of the original) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:44, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ The hotel shop only had two decent books, and I'd written both of them.

Took me a while to find a link that would work! Hi878 (talk) 18:50, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Weak oppose and I don't think I can do any better, honestly. This is just a hard motto to link. --I dream of horses (T) @ 03:11, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
    • Yeah, I had a hard time finding one that worked even a tiny bit. Hi878 (talk) 04:28, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment I've added a new idea for the links. Hi878 (talk) 04:34, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:41, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ The hotel shop only had two decent books, and I'd written both of them.

Edit 1 ~ How about this? I changed the one that was there, and added another. Hi878 (talk) 04:34, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/June 20, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:41, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ The hotel shop only had two decent books, and I'd written both of them.

Edit 2 –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:20, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Oppose I like edit one better. --I dream of horses (T) @ 03:40, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose' Me too. Hi878 (talk) 23:45, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:41, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

When darkness lurks, use the right actions, not the wrong ones.

Noneofyour (talk) 23:28, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Very Weak Support I don't really like the motto... If we have to use it, it will work, but I would rather not. Hi878 (talk) 00:46, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support Actually, I disagree with Hi878 actually like this motto very much, especially with the links. --I dream of horses (T) @ 03:15, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support ~ It is perfect! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:35, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/June 19, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:39, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ They say: only the fittest of the fittest shall survive, stay alive!

"Could You Be Loved"; Uprising, (1979). –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:55, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support Yes! I like these ones about the different philosophies. Hi878 (talk) 01:00, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

recycle Reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 22:20, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support - nice contrast in the links. Smaug123 (talk) 16:55, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak support I actually found the contrast in the links to be a little startling. --I dream of horses (T) @ 17:08, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/June 18, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:37, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

In the nine heavens are eight Paradises;
Where is the ninth one? In the human breast.
Only the blessed dwell in the Paradises,
But blessedness dwells in the human breast.

William Rounseville Alger (1822–1905), The Poetry of the Orient, "The Ninth Paradise" (1865) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:50, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment - (Yes, I'm back, but only for this comment. The WB enforcer isn't quite working on the new skin so, hehe.) Anyway, I am commenting here because I 'migrated', to use SS's words, to wikibooks, and there is no notability guideline there. Anything, no matter how trivial, can appear in Wikibooks. And I suppose the same goes for Wikisource, although I am not an editor there so I can't be sure. This make the motto a bit flawed. Kayau Voting IS evil 14:53, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Strong Support I love that quote anyways, and the links fit it perfectly. I think we should let this go because, although the lniks might make it a bit untrue, I love the quote, and... Well, I think we should use it. Hi878 (talk) 18:55, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support – Like this quote; just please add the "→" link for this quote. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 00:33, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support- This is fantastic. Absolutely. {{Sonia|talk|simple}} 05:09, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • 'Oppose If the links make it untrue, then we probably shouldn't use it. Also, it took me a bit to realize that "breast" probably meant "heart". --I dream of horses (T) @ 17:16, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
    • Yes, or the chest, the thorax, or most probably the two organs on the front of a woman's chest, containing the mammary glands that produce milk for the newborn babies. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:55, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/June 17, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 1 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:34, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Fluctuat nec mergitur
("It is tossed by the waves, but does not sink")

Motto of Paris, France, and it is also present in the city coat of arms. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:50, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support Good links! Hi878 (talk) 18:53, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support – The links you used worked well. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 00:34, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Strong support So, in other words, we will not be stopped by vandalism. Huzzah! --I dream of horses (T) @ 17:17, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/June 16, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:31, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Give, you gods,
Give to your boy, your Caesar,
The rattle of a globe to play withal,
This gewgaw world, and put him cheaply off;
I'll not be pleased with less than [Wikipedia].

John Dryden (1631–1700), All for Love, Act II, Scene II (1678) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:50, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support Another good one. Hi878 (talk) 18:53, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
    Moved to Edit 1. Hi878 (talk) 23:59, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support, but may I suggest using the original quote? --I dream of horses (T) @ 17:20, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of Edit 1) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:28, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Give, you gods,
Give to your boy, your Caesar,
The rattle of a globe to play withal,
This gewgaw world, and put him cheaply off;
I'll not be pleased with less than Cleopatra.

Edit 1 ~ featuring Cleopatra. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:58, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

  • support- it's a brilliantly linked quote. {{Sonia|talk|simple}} 11:03, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support I like this one. Hi878 (talk) 23:59, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/June 15, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:28, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Fiat lux
("Let there be light")

Motto of many educational institutions and used in many works of art. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:50, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support You always come up with good ones! Hi878 (talk) 18:51, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - very apt! Smaug123 (talk) 16:56, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Conditional support if mine doesn't succeed. --I dream of horses (T) @ 17:25, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/June 14, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:21, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Fiat lux
("Let there be light")

I think this goes a little closer to "Let there be light". Wikipedia, I believe, has multiple "lights", not just newly created articles. --I dream of horses (T) @ 17:25, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Weak oppose I don't know, I like the first one... Hi878 (talk) 17:56, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of the original) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:21, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Que Sera, Sera
("Whatever will be, will be")

From Que Sera, Sera a popular song. PrincessofLlyr royal court 02:16, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support The links work well. I added the →. Hi878 (talk) 02:28, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
    • Moved to Edit 2. Hi878 (talk) 19:16, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
  • oppose- It seems to me to be saying that disruptive editing is inevitable. I know that's not what it means, but that's how it comes across to me. {{Sonia|talk|simple}} 04:24, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
    Would you prefer if the link were changed to vandalism or something like that? I do believe that some type of disruptive editing, be it vandalism, edit warring, what have you, is inevitable. Those types of people will always be out there. PrincessofLlyr royal court 12:30, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose all This quote just philosophically rubs me the wrong way. Edit one seems to guarantees a certain future. The original and edit two seem rather depressing. There's always going to be vandals, so what's the point of doing anything? --I dream of horses (T) @ 17:40, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of Edit 2) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:12, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Que Sera, Sera (Whatever Will Be, Will Be)

Edit 1 ~ pointing to "The future of Wikipedia" on Media-Wiki. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:41, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support. Good message, suggests that while the future is uncertain, we can still make Wikipedia the best that it can be. ~AH1(TCU) 23:27, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose In favor of the original Edit 2. Hi878 (talk) 05:47, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose Bland. Doc Quintana (talk) 03:03, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

no Declined (in favour of Edit 2) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:12, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ Que Sera, Sera (Whatever Will Be, Will Be)

Edit 2 - focusing on vandalism rather than disruptive editing. PrincessofLlyr royal court 19:09, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Support I like this link better. Hi878 (talk) 19:16, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support ALL VERSIONS but my favourite is this version (Edit 2) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 11:19, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support – Like this version the best. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 17:39, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support –pjoef (talk • contribs)

Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/June 13, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:12, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ (Hey!) I'm walking here! I'm walking here!

Enrico "Ratso" Rizzo (portrayed by Dustin Hoffman). Midnight Cowboy (directed by John Schlesinger; written by Waldo Salt (screenplay), James Leo Herlihy (novel); starring Dustin Hoffman, Jon Voight, Sylvia Miles; music composed and directed by John Barry; cinematography by Adam Holender; edited by Hugh A. Robertson; 1969). –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:40, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Oppose I don't like the link. Below would work, if something better than a template could be linked to. Hi878 (talk) 18:35, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose both I don't like where either versions' links go to. --I dream of horses (T) @ 17:51, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose – The link doesn't make much sense. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 17:40, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Rejected (In favor of Edit 1) Hi878 (talk) 00:06, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

→ (Hey!) I'm walking here! I'm walking here!

Edit 1 ~ While they were filming at 58th St and 6th Ave, Manhattan, New York City, New York, USA, a car drove into the scene and almost hit Dustin Hoffman and Jon Voight. Dustin Hoffman ad-libbed the line and it stayed in the movie. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 06:40, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

  • support, but is there a better way to do this than to link to the template? {{Sonia|talk|simple}} 07:33, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Weak Support Something better than a template would be nice. Hi878 (talk) 18:34, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Some alternatives are:

    1. Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page#Major_edits
    2. Wikipedia:Editing_policy#Talking_and_editing

    But, I don't dislike the idea of linking to that template, because there are some editors who do not know when, where and how to use templates. By doing so, they can be informed of the existence of that template and on how and when to use it, simply by reading the template documentation, which is just below the template itself. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:20, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
    • Eh, the template will do, because after all it has documentation. And that's fine. {{Sonia|talk|simple}} 01:56, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
Approved for Wikipedia:Motto of the day/June 12, 2010 (per consensus: 3 for, 0 against) Hi878 (talk) 00:06, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
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