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Perry County, Tennessee[edit]
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I am listing this article for peer review prior to submitting it as a Featured Article Candidate. Requesting feedback on formatting, sourcing, and general content suggestions that it could be missing that would prevent it from passing FA review. I've done exhaustive searches on Newspapers.com, JSTOR, Google Books, the Tennessee State Library and Archives, and Archive.org for additional content, but would welcome any additional source locations and information.
Thanks! nf utvol (talk) 13:29, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
- A quick comment: the major highways section should not be a mere list. It is better expressed as prose that describes where these highways go, why they're major, and perhaps traffic counts. SounderBruce 06:07, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- SC
- Will try and get to this in the next day or so. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 14:48, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
A very quick spin over shows it's in excellent shape overall and not far off FA standard from a prose point of view. Hopefully by the time we finish the full PR that'll bring it closer. Of equal importance for the article is the questions of comprehensiveness. I am not a subject expert and my knowledge of much of the US is incredibly low, so you'll have to judge this for yourself, but two key points for you to consider:
- Have you covered every significant aspect of the topic?
- Have you exhausted every possible avenue of research?
You'll need to judge that for yourself – and don't measure it too closely to the other 'county FA' – that passed in 2011 and standards and requirements have changed in the last 12 years. I'll make a start on an FA-level review, which will be nit-picky, annoying and trivial, but it needs to happen here, rather than at FAC.
- General
- Although not an FA requirement, there will always be reviewers who insist the sources are in numerical order, so check you don't have any instances of "poverty rates.[11][12][2]"
- There will also be those (sometimes me) who suggest cite bundling to avoid examples of "[25][26][27][28]".
- Make sure every single source is of the highest standard possible – preferably academic/peer reviewed, but from published secondary sources if not. Primary/newspaper sources only use if you can't get the information somewhere else, but make sure those newspapers are high quality ones. I see a YouTube clip in the refs – that will be a problem for some people.
- Understood, it's challenging on this point to find sources other than newspapers and published secondary sources, though. I've been working from a couple of books/journal articles (including a local history book published in the early 1990s, a history of Tennessee counties from the 1880s, a few journal articles looking at the geology, history, and paleontology aspects, etc.), but there just aren't many secondary or academic sources out there for a county this small. Will continue to see what I can find, though. I live near the Library of Congress and have a researcher library card, so I'll have to go over there in the coming days and see if there is anything I'm missing.nf utvol (talk) 14:30, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- IB
- Looks OK – nothing major seems to be missing and it doesn't look like there are any extraneous fields used
- You don't need a cite to say it's named after Perry – that's supported in the body, but make sure everything else in the IB is either supported in the body or has a citation.
- Lead
- Is there a reason for so many citations? If a sentence summarises what's in the body and is not contentious or a quote, then it doesn't need a cite.
- Fixed!
- "As of the 2020 census, the population was 8,366, with an average population density of 20.2 persons per square mile (7.8 persons/km2) it is the least densely populated county in Tennessee." Grammatically this is a little off. Adding a semi colon after the bracket would make it work
- Fixed!
- Its county seat and largest town is Linden.[4] It is named after American naval commander and War of 1812 hero Oliver Hazard Perry.[1]" As this stands, "it is named after" refers to Linden; swap out "it" for "The country" or similar
- Fixed!
- 80% should be 80 percent
I'll pick up again shortly. - SchroCat (talk) 09:58, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- Prehistory
- "a number of mounds": this is a bit of a trigger phrase to some at FAC on the basis that "a number" can also include zero (I don't entirely agree, but you're writing for a general audience, so may as well get it in line now!) "with several mounds" or "with numerous mounds" would also work
- "some did immigrate": Just "some immigrated" will do
- Formation
- As the quote "that a new county be" is well over 40 words, it should be in a block quote format
- "Perryville was relatively important river port" -> "a relatively important"
- "the issue of nullification": it would be worth a few words explaining what that is – it'll stop people clicking away from the article unnecessarily
- "courthouse at Perryville burned": I think you need a little more, if possible (accident or arson; destroyed, or only partially burned)
- "after a Thomas Campbell poem": 'poem' is an easter egg here – maybe 'after the Thomas Campbell poem "Hohenlinden"'?
- "where it remains today": we shouldn't say "today", so better to use "as of {{CURRENTISOYEAR}}"
Done to the end of Formation; more to come. This reads very nicely and I'm not seeing anything other than minor tweaks so far. - SchroCat (talk) 19:24, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- History
- "of the Sunday, May 17, 1863, edition of the New York Times": 1. You don't need 'Sunday'; 2, link and italicise as The New York Times
- "The 1868 Courthouse in Linden" (Image caption): lower case C
- Pipe a link for "counter-guerilla" to Counterinsurgency?
- Is "Reconstruction era" normally capitalised? (I ask from a position of complete ignorance!)
- "electric grid": over here we'd say "electrical grid" – is "electric" an AmEng thing?
History all done – will crack on with the next section tomorrow. - SchroCat (talk) 17:16, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
- Geography
- "Three rivers are found within Perry County: the Tennessee River, Buffalo River, and Duck River" There are seven uses of "river" in this short para – you could soften it by tweaking this bit to "Three rivers are found within Perry County: the Tennessee, Buffalo, and Duck rivers"
- "with the construction of Kentucky Dam" "the Kentucky Dam"?
- Economy
- "were planted in corn": this may be a BrEng thing, but "planted with corn" sounds more appropriate to me
- Cities and towns
- Link for incorporated town?
That's my lot. This is in excellent shape and I think you could probably take it to FAC now. There are a couple of things people are bound to raise queries over - the use of bullet points rather than having something in prose, but I'd run with it and see what suggestions people have. I'll email with some suggestions on how to handle the review when it happens. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 15:52, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- All fixed, thanks again for the review! Will work on confirming I can't find any other secondary or academic sources for some of the primary sourced statements then work on getting it up for FAC. nf utvol (talk) 18:50, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
Query from Z1720[edit]
@Nfutvol: It has been over a month since the last comment. Is this PR ready to be closed and nominated to FAC, or are you still interested in more comments? Z1720 (talk) 15:51, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks @Z1720:! I think it is. I've been a bit busy lately and just wanted to make sure I was in a position to quickly address comments when I start the nomination process. I'll get on that in the next few days, though. Thanks again! nf utvol (talk) 19:09, 24 January 2024 (UTC)