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Technical Death Metal Song Structures?

Whats a common/most used one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.82.153.174 (talk) 03:56, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

From what I've heard (which is actually the predecessor of death metal, such as COC, MDC, and Danzig), it is rather simplistic 3-chord songs. If you give the chords the labels A, B, and C, the songs use each chord for four beats as ABABABCC and repeat. At some point, the more creative bands will throw in a bridge. Others just run through the repeated 8-measure sequence and stop. Of course, there will be many examples of different structures. This is just what I heard as the most common. If you are interested in hard rock/metal music with more creativity, try Metallica. It may sound too wimpy for you, but you can analyse the structure of their songs and get a feel for what makes them popular. -- kainaw™ 13:16, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Intro, verse, chorus, verse, chrus, intro/interlude/solo/ chorus verse, outro —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.115.175.247 (talk) 14:53, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

^ Not funny. Avnas Ishtaroth _{drop me a line} 01:09, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

well in the current tech death scene there's pretty much two positions:

1) a structured song with intro, verse, chorus, solo/breakdown and then some sort of mix of the previous sections to end it 2) have as little or as randomized structure as possible.

case in point listen to Cannibal Corpse's Hammer Smashed Face as compared to Between the Buried and Me's Aesthetic

I know some won't think BTBAM is tech death but they are tech without a doubt and have death influences. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.155.80.115 (talk) 19:12, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Name of game

I can't remember a name of a computer game I used to play as a kid. You were this bug or frog thing and had to jump from lily pad to lily pad as they got smaller and smaller. I believe the game was is another language (like Russian or something). And I’m pretty sure it was shareware. Any ideas? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.202.144.223 (talk) 04:16, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Frogger? Corvus cornix_talk 04:17, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the fast response... but no. not frogger. it had an odd name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.202.144.223 (talk) 04:25, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

You posed this question at the Miscellaneous desk. Please do not cross-post questions. Many people who monitor the RefDesk monitor many (or all) of the RefDesk pages. Adding the question to more than one desk will only result in having to look around in more places for your answer, with only slightly more exposure. — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 10:38, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

I've answered over in Miscellaneous. Deor (talk) 11:48, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

how do i get metalmorph in yu-gi-oh! duelist of the roses?

question

i need it for it my red eyes

--119.95.129.204 (talk) 11:54, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Click here --Endlessdan 14:44, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

The Adventures of Grandmaster Flash on the Wheels of Steel

At the very start of the song, it goes, 'Ya say' several times before saying the line 'Ya say one for the trouble, two for the time, c'mon girls, let's rock that-' before cutting into a whistle. What I want to know is, where that first bit is from. Does anyone know, 'cos I'm stumped. If I quite obviously missed something in the article, I shall delete this. Thank you for your time.--Editor510 ^{drop us a line, mate} 18:38, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

UPDATE:Nope, nothing there. Someone please tell me!--Editor510 ^{drop us a line, mate} 18:50, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

What, the "one for the trouble" bit? That'd be a reference to Blue Suede Shoes, which begins with ""Well, it's one for the money, two for the show, three to get ready, now go, cat, go!" (Or "man", instead of "cat", but hey, if Elvis sings "cat", I'm gonna go with "cat", 'cause you don't mess with the King.) -- Captain Disdain (talk) 08:36, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

OK, the closest I can find is 'Spoonie Gee - The Spoonin' rap' wich starts with these lyrics (or very close). This is an early hip hop tune from about 79 from before he was with the Treacherous Three. I can only imagine that by the time Flash did his 'Adventures' this phrase and others like it (One for the treble, two for the bass, etc.) had already appeared on various tunes. Good Luck!

It's Spoonie Gee Monster Rap feat. The Sequence.

Athletes and Gambling

Are professional athletes allowed to bet on events they're involved with? Say, a boxer betting that he'll win a particular fight? Obviously betting that you'll lose would reek of fixing the match, but are they allowed to bet the other way? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.33.70.60 (talk) 20:32, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

I can't find anything around the law online (though didn't spend too long) but I understand that professional footballers are not allowed to bet on events that they could influence. I suspect this will be the same for all sporting events that have bookmakers taking odds on. I guess such a thing would be similar to insider trading is - whereby the individual is privy to 'insider' information. I don't think Insider betting is a real term but perhaps something like that would be an apt description for the (potentially) unfair advantage a sportsman would have on betting on the outcome (positive or negative) of an event they are competing in/able to influence. ny156uk (talk) 21:49, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Also just found this news item (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20000421/ai_n14305729) that is a reference to a footballer Steve Claridge who was fined for betting on his own team winning a game. As the article suggests - it seems this isn't uncommon, but that it isn't allowed by the authorities that regulate the sport. ny156uk (talk) 21:53, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

An athlete could deliberately perform poorly in prior events in order to increase the betting odds. Basketball players could (and have) shaved points and still win their games. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:19, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Nylon strings on a Steel-string guitar

Hi everyone ! one of my steel-string guitar strings just snapped , as I have a set of nylon strings at home , is it possible to use em on my guitar ? please help me , I prefer to ask before trying , Thanks :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Unhalium (talk • contribs) 22:49, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

You probably shouldn't. Steel and nylon strings produce different tension on the neck, so you might warp it if you change from one to the other. Maybe one string won't do anything, but in that case you'll probably just snap the nylon string pretty quickly. Adam Bishop (talk) 07:30, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't think the tension difference from one single string will do serious damage to the neck (especially since nylon strings work at a lower tension than steel strings); however, a nylon string will sound (and feel) totally out of place on an otherwise steel-string guitar. If it's possible at all to finger a chord (fingering and changing chords has lots to do with muscle memory, and the one thick, soft string in between the others will very probably throw your fingers completely off balance), it will sound very weird and mushy. Plus, I'm not even sure you can fit a nylon string through a steel-string machinehead, let alone fix it in place (and if it's an electric guitar you're talking about, a nylon string will simply not sound at all). -- Ferkelparade π 08:00, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Considering that, as Ferkel mentioned, they have less tension, it wouldn't be a structural problem for you to string up your entire guitar with them. I'm however also skeptical that they'd fit in the nut and I have no idea how you'd tie them off at the bridge. Assuming the scale is similar, which it probably is, you wouldn't damage the strings, and you'd get a decently loud enough sound. If scale is significantly longer on your steel string guitar then keep it tuned down a half step with the nylon strings. Never ever put steel strings on a nylon string guitar. Ever. But as far as this goes, I think it's possible but I'd also advise against it just because it's a waste of time and strings, and it won't have the best result. Just go out and get some more of the right strings. - Lambajan 16:16, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I've done it before; it sounds terrible. The main difference is that classical guitars and steel-string guitars have different geometry, particularly the distance between the strings and fretboard. The steel strings change pitch much more when they're bent that far down, and everything sounds out-of-tune. (I may have gotten the details backwards, but the concept is firm: Don't bother!) jeffjon (talk) 18:38, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Deal or no Deal

What are the top prizes on the Zimbabwaen and Romanian versions of Deal or no Deal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.42.214.138 (talk) 23:49, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

For the original Romanian version see Da sau nu, the latest version accepti sau nu has a top prize of 100,000 lei. For the Zimbabwean version see Saka Kana Aa Saka. Nanonic (talk) 00:49, 4 September 2008 (UTC)