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Ending off a table

Help! I am editing 155mm Creusot Long Tom. I started a new section "Pretoria Forts". I tried to do my first table, but could not end it off. The table is now at the end of the article. How do I fix it? Regards, Vaaljapie (talk) 12:30, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. I see that you've fixed it. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:53, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

When in doubt, read the manual. Thanks, anyway, Vaaljapie (talk) 12:56, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Question to Google

Please help me relate to Google AdSense or you tell me why is it that Google AdSense can not wait until a blog page is qualified to apply for AdSense before allowing it to apply for the AdSense? Many of us have many times been dissappointed by AdSense after huge struggles. UZOR NWAELEHIA 17:23, 22 September 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by UZOR NWAELEHIA (talk • contribs)

This is Wikipedia—we have no relationship to Google. If you want to contact Google, you need to follow this link and follow the instructions there. ‑ Iridescent 17:39, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Should I post a page about our hospital's antibiotic guidelines

Hi, I work at a hospital which has a wikipage. I have an antibiotic stewardship document and references for our committee's decisions regarding the best antibiotics for pneumonia, urinary tract infections, etc. I welcome edits for clarity, and want it open sourced to enhance usability for our physicians. However, is it a Wikipedia page? I am not sure. It could be a game changer to open up for feedback the process and its well reference.

Thanks!!! Andy dc2000 (talk) 04:11, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

@Andy dc2000: Welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia containing articles about notable topics, specifically, topics which have received significant coverage from reliable, independent sources. It is difficult for me to imagine that one hospital's antibiotics usage guideline would be eligible for an encyclopedia article.
An alternative would be to install the free MediaWiki software on your hospital's computer and set up your own open sourced antibiotics guideline separate from Wikipedia. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:28, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
Hello, Andy dc2000. It's absolutely not appropriate for Wikipedia; but it's possible that it would fit Wikiversity? --ColinFine (talk) 13:01, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
I think that Wikipedia is not a web host would apply to putting a hospital-specific document in Wikipedia. I think, and please correct me if I am mistaken, that it would be appropriate in medical articles to summarize papers describing what are considered best practices by the scientific community. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:53, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

How to have a search redirect to a page

How do I have a term searched redirect to a page? Verified Cactus (talk) 18:46, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

@VerifiedCactus: Welcome back to the Teahouse. It is easy to create a redirect. The procedure is explained at Wikipedia:Redirect. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 20:31, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll go do that then. Verified Cactus (talk) 21:41, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Does this person qualify as notable?

Jerome L Davis is an African American businessman on the Board of Directors of two public corporations (Gamestop and Apogee Enterprises)and on the Board of Destination DC, Washington DCs tourism organization. He currently is the Executive Vice President of the Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority. References to his career movements are in Ebony Magazine, Appliance Manufacturer Magazine, Gamestop website, APogee website and MWAA website.38.100.139.2 (talk) 20:35, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

It sounds like he may be notable, if they're writing articles about him in those publications. The sites for the companies wouldn't help establish notability, but Ebony and Appliance Manufacturer would. More sources might be found using Google News. White Arabian Filly Neigh 20:48, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
But the articles do need to be truly independent. If they're just written from press releases or interviews, they won't count towards notability. --ColinFine (talk) 21:57, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi person editing from 139.2. From what I can see by looking at just Google News and Google Books – and I note a few of the few sources found through the search I tried are about a different Jerome L. Davis, born 1917 – probably not. If that's all there is, I don't think an article is warranted. (Always gather your sources first, to see if there is sufficient substantive publication about the topic to meet notability standards [and then write only based on what the sources verify and nothing else]). The sketches from Ebony, Jet and Black Enterprise are blurbs. They go beyond mere mentions, but are not in my opinion enough to warrant a stand-alone article—one that would survive an articles for deletion discussion. Are there are other secondary, independent, reliable sources that dedicate a few paragraphs to him?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:25, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

creating articles

Is it possible to create an article without using the Article Wizard? Verified Cactus (talk) 00:22, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

@VerifiedCactus: Welcome back. Yes, editors can draft articles in draft or user sandbox space, and move them to main space when developed. You can even write an article right in main space, but I do not recommend this. It may lead to unwanted encounters with new page patrollers. Cullen328 Let's discuss it•

How do I get my article from Sandbox to Published?

Dear friends.

I think my article is ready now. Having done a great deal of work on the references I believe it is now up to the standard required. Would it now be possible to have this moved from Sandbox to the body of work so it appears in the main index search?

Philjones573 (talk) 20:09, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Philjones573, welcome to the Teahouse. I have added the special {{User sandbox}} header template to your sandbox page. It includes a "Submit your draft for review!" button, which should be what you need next. When you are ready, please submit it, and a reviewer will take a look and get back to you. It's relatively rare for new articles to pass review on the very first attempt, but stick with it and follow the reviewer's advice. Murph9000 (talk) 20:53, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
I took a look at it and it looks like it should pass review; it's better written than most drafts I see. The main problem I see is that you have your punctuation after your citation::s; it should be before them. Other than that, it looks good. White Arabian Filly Neigh 20:58, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hillier Parker May and Rowden. A previous article on the same firm was deleted after a deletion discussion. The consideration here is similar to that being discussed with regard to Draft:Federico Pistono. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:04, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't see 'Submit your draft for review' at the top of my sandbox page "User:Philjones573/sandbox"? Am I looking in the right place? Philjones573 (talk) 22:26, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello! When the User:Philjones573/sandbox page was moved to Draft:Hillier Parker May and Rowden, the {{User sandbox}} template got automatically hidden. I have replaced it with a template that will continue to work. When you are ready to submit, you can click the "Submit your draft for review!" button, and it will be added to the queue. Happy editing! -- AntiCompositeNumber (Leave a message) 00:51, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Missing portal decade

Why do Wikipedia portals for decades not include a portal for the 1940s? All decades from the 1920s through the 1990s have portals -- except the 1940s. Eddie Blick (talk) 18:24, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello Eddie Blick. That would be because nobody has created Portal:1940s yet. If you want to try your hand at it, see Wikipedia:Portal and the linked pages like Wikipedia:Portal/Instructions and Wikipedia:Portal guidelines. —teb728 t c 22:00, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
(e/c) I don't think it is an intentional omission (those damn 1940s don't deserve a portal). It's just another case where you are the person who noticed the gap that should be filled – so get busy. <(e/c snip)> Best regards --Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:04, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
That sounds like a worthwhile endeavor. I will take a look at the pages linked above and see what I can do. Thanks for the advice! Eddie Blick (talk) 00:57, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Adding a table of contents to my own talk page for mobile use

I do much of my editing on my smartphone, and I keep many references, bits of wikicode, etc. on my talk page so that I can access them readily. I would find it very convenient to have a Table of Contents there, but TOCs aren't shown in the mobile interface. I tried __FORCETOC__, but it didn't work.

I realize that there are good reasons in general for not including tables of contents on mobile displays. I'm not trying to do this on an article page or anything but my own user page, and conceivably other pages in my own user space, such as Sandbox. Is there a way?

(I realize that my subject line could be confusing. I'm not trying to add a TOC just on the mobile page, but I would like to have it there.)

Please {{Ping}} me to discuss. --Thnidu (talk) 23:58, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

@Thnidu: My suggestion is to use the "desktop" site on your mobile device. I use quotation marks because I think that it really should be called the "fully functional" site. I do most of my editing on an Android smart phone, and the desktop site works just fine on my phone. I am editing from my phone now, took a look at your user page, and the table of contents there displays and functions properly. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:17, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
@Cullen328: Thanks, but I've tried that and it's just barely workable. My screen is 2½ x 4½", and the desktop view is compressed so far I can barely read it. I can 2-finger-zoom it, but at the first edit it shrinks again. Seems like I'll have to put in a feature request. --Thnidu (talk) 07:34, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
@Thnidu: The funny thing is that I used to be very nearsighted and could read Wikipedia on my smartphone just fine. Then I had cataract surgery one year ago and am now farsighted, which is a dramatic change for me. And I could still read Wikipedia on my phone just fine. From one extreme to another, and it still works fine for me. Then, I had a laser procedure for glaucoma and a month later suffered vitreal detachment, both of which were traumatic. I can still read Wikipedia just fine on my smartphone. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:50, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
@Cullen328: I'm glad it works for you, but I'm not you. -- Are we talking about the same thing? I have no problem reading the mobile view, it's the desktop view that shows the TOC but displays in characters almost unreadably small. --Thnidu (talk) 01:01, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
@Thnidu: Yes, I am talking about using the desktop site on an Android smart phone. Despite my many visual problems, I have no trouble reading or editing Wikipedia. I can increase or decrease font size instantly with a forked finger gesture, and to me, the small screen at six inches is equivalent to a large monitor at four feet. Sorry it does not work for you. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 01:32, 23 September 2016 (UTC)|
@Cullen328: How long does the zoom stay zoomed? --Thnidu (talk) 03:03, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
@Thnidu: If I am reading an article, it stays zoomed as long as I keep reading that article. If I am editing an article, it stays zoomed until I save the edit. And if I need to re-zoom, it takes about a third of a second, and is completely intuitive to me. I barely think about it. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:12, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
Thnidu, I am using the Android Wikipedia app. On every page, including my User talk page, there is a floating icon at the bottom right corner which displays the TOC. --ColinFine (talk) 12:57, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
User:ColinFine: Is that the app called "Wikipedia Beta"? Please {{Ping}} me to discuss. --Thnidu (talk) 01:02, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Terrible time with deletion.

I have written what I consider to be a well sourced article on the The ANSI-ASQ National Accreditation Board. I have been working on it for a while. The problem with that the very name of the organization trips as a copyright infringement because the name is long and in the website. It is the only thing in the article noted as such. Despite contesting speedy basis on that basis it is still getting deleted. This makes no sense to me. Is there any way that can be addressed.

Bbcard1 (talk) 21:36, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello Bbcard1. Let me explain what happened.
  • On May 23, 2016 you created ANAB - The ANSI-ASQ National Accreditation Board which was deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement and as blatantly promotional. At the time of was marked for speedy deletion under CSD G12 it was indeed a blatant copyright infringement of the content at nab.org/about-anab and anab.org/about-anab/history. It appears you actually removed at least some of the infringement in later edits, before it was deleted, but in any case, it was also later marked as unsalvageably promotional and was certainly properly deleted under CSD G11. The tagging for speedy deletion under CSD G12 was done with the template posted near the top of the page, {{db-copyvio|url=http://www.anab.org/about-anab/|url2=http://anab.org/about-anab/history/|help=off}} You obviously saved a prior revision of the page when it was still a blatant copyvio and was still tagged, all of it including that template, which is important to explain what happened next.
  • You recreated the page on May 26 at ANSI-ASQ National Accreditation Board and it was again (e.g., still) a blatant copyright infringement and horribly promotional, but no one needed to tag it as such, because you posted it with the previous speedy deletion tag still in place. It was then [properly] deleted.
  • On September 14, you recreated the page at User:Bbcard1/sandbox complete with deletion tag in place, still a blatant copyright infringement and promotional and it was properly deleted again. Since you had been warned, you should have been blocked at that point, for continuing to post copyright infringements and promotional content (not to mention having done so in the past, e.g., at TMEIC Corporation), which I will need to go clean.
  • On September 16, you recreated the page at User:Bbcard1/sandbox complete with deletion tag in place, but as far as I can tell, removed the blatantly infringing content. However, because the tag was still in, and because the same admin had already deleted your postings on the same topic multiple times when they were copyright infringements, RHaworth deleted the page again, and then again when you reposted today (again with the tag in place). Under such circumstances I probablky wuld have done the same by that point.
  • The deleted page contained a few decent sources, though they were not well attributed, being bare URLs, and the content still read as promotional, though not as much as the previous versions had.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:12, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
  • P.S. Your edits to multiple pages – what you choose to edit and what you write when you do – are consistently exactly what I would expect of a paid editor, a person hired to write articles or a person at a PR firm hawking their clients. If you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits in any way, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Bbcard1. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Bbcard1|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:18, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
Bbcard1, you say that the article name alone "trips as a copyright infringement", but we have articles on Sony, Facebook and Amazon.com, etc. It's the content of the article that will have been the problem, not its title. Cordless Larry (talk) 06:29, 22 September 2016 (UTC)


Bbcard1 (talk) 12:01, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

I write professionally in ad agency, so it would seem that way. Honestly I've grown weary of this project and am going to let it go. See below for the explanation of why I was writing it, if you have any interest. I'm just going to request and article and see if someone else will worry about it.

I am have never directly met anyone with ANAB (this was true at the time, but no longer is), but am familiar with their work as I deal with testing labs. I have had one (Inorganic Ventures in Christiansburg, VA) as a client for a long while and have become friendly with their lab techs. One mentioned working with ANAB (which is the certifying agent for their standards) and when I was researching them I was surprised they did not have a page. While I don't know anyone there, my friend works with them regularly and I will get the company to file the appropriate ticket.

I wrote for a monthly for a long time and they have ceased publication. I did an article recently on a football player from my alma mater and found it to be interesting. I hope to be able to do some occasional wiki articles to kind of scratch that itch. I will request the permission and try to repost with changes in tone.

Bbcard1 (talk) 12:01, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

If you have worked in advertising, you will find it difficult (but not impossible) to write from a Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. There is no "appropriate ticket" for a company to file because Wikipedia is not a directory, but anyone can request an article at Wikipedia:Requested articles, though it would be wise to check Wikipedia:Notability first, and it will be helpful to provide some reliable sources. Dbfirs 13:24, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Forgetting to add signature-solution?

I'm part of a group of new student editors. We are, occasionally, in these early days, forgetting to add four tildes and remembering just as we hit "save." Is there any way to edit one's edits in order to add a signature & time stamp?Jagrif02 (talk) 18:52, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

I don't think there is a warning for that, but in your preferences you set "Show preview on first edit" and it will preview your post before you save it and maybe you will notice the missing signature. RudolfRed (talk) 19:33, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
@Jagrif02:. If you save an edit to a talk page and notice right away that you forgot the four tildes, then just edit again and add the four tildes. No harm, no foul. If you forget completely, a helpful bot will come along and sign your post for you. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 20:27, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
If you find yourself constantly forgetting the signature, you can use Signing.js to automatically add it if you forget. It also does a few other things like automatically indenting threads. -- AntiCompositeNumber (Leave a message) 22:30, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
@Jagrif02:Hello I am Varun and you can use this script which will always remind you to sign. See User:VarunFEB2003/sigReminder and you'll be done 180.151.77.211 (talk) 07:45, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
@Jagrif02:. I am not a teahouse host and this is not directly to the point of your question, but it might help indirectly to know that in your Preferences under the Editing tab, you can set the option 'Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary'. It has saved me many times when I have not entered the summary before making my edits.SovalValtos (talk) 10:00, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
@SovalValtos: Sig Reminder is a much better option. Edit summary is completely unrelated. Jagjrf don't get confused! VarunFEB2003 13:44, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Why my article got deleted once and once again?

I posted an article named wiitrans.com, but it got deleted once and once again. I did not mean to promote any company, product and website. Please help me, what should I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RamonaYuyi (talk • contribs) 01:54, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

First, after an article has been speedy-deleted, especially for G11, that is, as advertising, it is a good idea not to create the same article again. Creating the same article again after it has been deleted may result in being blocked for spamming. Second, if an article has been speedy-deleted, and you really are not trying to spam and really want to work on it, use the Articles for Creation process to have it reviewed in draft space. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:36, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi RamonaYuyi. Are you saying that you have no personal interest in the success of Wittran.com? I ask because it is just so incredibly rare for anyone to post an article on a new, non-notable commercial venture for any reason other than their involvement in it. In any event, the topic is not a notable subject, and so even if you wrote an article that did not contain promotional language (as the one you posted did), it will not be accepted so please don't waste your own time. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:05, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
@RamonaYuyi: I did a Google search for independent, reliable sources devoting significant coverage to wiitrans.com and came up with nothing. Since Wikipedia articles summarize such sources, it seems that this company is not notable at this time. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:26, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
There are a large group of Wiki "editors" that do nothing but diss on others who have accomplished something in their lives. The have a myriad of reason for deleting postings and/or articles. But someone like Aaron Rogers worthless brother who was on the Bachelor and NEVER play in so much as a exhibition game in the NFL is listed as a NFL Quarterback. Wiki has become a joke.!JohnConners14 (talk) 18:17, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
@JohnConners14:. Welcome to the Teahouse. It is not a good idea to call anyone "worthless" here. I agree that the notability of Jordan Rodgers is borderline, but that article makes it clear that he has not played in an NFL game but just on practice squads. If you think the biography does not belong here, nominate it at Articles for Deletion. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 19:00, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Request to review Draft:Simonne Jones

I was asked by User:Nerdofmusic to review Draft:Simonne Jones after I commented on it. I would appreciate the comments of other experienced editors. I think that she passes notability and that the draft is well sourced. (I complained last month about the sheer number of citations.) I have tone issues with the draft, in that it appears to me to be written to make her seem too good to be true, but this leaves me uncertain whether to accept it or decline it, leaving me to compromise by doing neither. Can other editors please look at the draft? Robert McClenon (talk) 02:29, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: It seems to me that there is a recurring promotional tone in Wikipedia's voice that violates the Neutral point of view. I looked at some of the references, especially regarding her education and scientific work, and they seem weak. Yes, she is one of 19 co-authors of a single paper on HIV, but I do not think that is adequate to call her a "scientist". I suspect the reliability of many of the sources. Personally, I would feel far more comfortable with a streamlined, more neutral article summarizing the very best and most reliable 12 to 15 sources. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:15, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

"Request edits" backlog

The "Requested edit" queue has a backlog of nearly a year; if you are "host" here, please consider helping out by clearing a few entries. You can find the backlog, and instructions for clearing it, at Template:Request edit/Instructions § Current requested edits. – Philosopher Let us reason together. 03:21, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Chef

I am the chef of the restaurant. Not trying to promote or advertise. Just wondering how brands such as mine end up on Wikipedia Bobbytessler (talk) 03:41, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, Bobbytessler. I've moved your question from the incorrect page to the correct one. Anyway, in general, a restaurant ends up on Wikipedia when someone who isn't affiliated with the restaurant devotes time to making an article about the restaurant and the topic of the article satisfies at least our general notability guidelines and our rules about what Wikipedia is not. I am unaware if there are any additional guidelines for restaurants. -- Gestrid (talk) 03:57, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Bobbytessler, your question has already been answered, three paragraphs down. Rojomoke (talk) 03:56, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Specifically, see the section titled How to add a restaurant to Wikipedia, where you apparently asked this same question. -- Gestrid (talk) 03:59, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

How to add a restaurant to Wikipedia

Local St. Louis restaurant thats been awarded several times. How does this get on Wikipedia? Bobbytessler (talk) 22:48, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Have multiple reliable, secondary sources, entirely independent of the restaurant, written about it in substantive detail (at least a few paragraphs specifically about it and not just mere mentions of it)? If not, then it is not a notable subject – as we use that word here to indicate the inclusion standard I have summarized – and it does not get on Wikipedia.

On the other hand, if that standard is met, meaning such sources exist, then see Wikipedia:Your first article but also our conflict of interest guideline (as I suspect you would not be asking about this if you did not have one). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:34, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Bobbytessler seems to be the chef of the chicken wings restaurant in question, and has written a draft about his restaurant which is both overtly promotional and a copyright violation. The references are to sources which are brief and local. Truly notable restaurants will be the subject of in-depth coverage by professional restaurant reviewers in publications of regional and national circulation. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:21, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
His draft has been tagged as both overly promotional and a copyright violation. It's likely why he asked basically the same question above as he did here, but he made sure to say he wasn't trying to be promotional. Anyway, Bobbytessler, I would say that, in addition to everything listed above, you should read our rules about Wikipedia and promotion. -- Gestrid (talk) 04:08, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

I am asking suggestions for paragraph "General formula for tempered interval"

Ladies and Gentlemen, Moderators and experienced Editors,

Please let me express my sincere gratitude for you invited me to your Teahouse. I like drink tea only in winder time, but coffee in all the year around!

Also let me ask your suggestions about paragraph "General formula for tempered interval" in "General properties" of the article "Equal temperament". Thanks in advance.

I am just beginner in editing Wikipedia's articles.

With regards and friendship, Georges T. (talk) 10:03, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for looking at one of our articles. If you have thoughts for its improvement, please discuss at the article talk page, Talk:Equal temperament. I see that you have started commenting there; it is the best place to discuss possible improvements to an article. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:58, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
Mr Robert McClenon, please accept my many thanks for you replied my message and for your instruction. Already I have made a thoroughly improvement in wording. I remain with regards and friendship.

P.S. I am in Médiathèque - Chalonnes-sur-Loire, France. Before I make improvement, log in was impossible, but after that, was possible! They offer internet access for free, but with many deficiencies and restrictions. G.T. Georges T. (talk) 10:26, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Airports in India - Manipur State

Please have a look at wikipedia page List of airports in India § Manipur. I have corrected information regarding Imphal airport. I could not figure out when the original entry might have been corrupted. The second airport of Manipur Koirengei Airstrip Airport was an airstrip of WW II era. If there is some way to know if it is original entry or changed one. Please rectify accordingly. Thanks. Jazze7 (talk) 14:29, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Article on late Dr Binod Chandra Nayak

Dear Sir , I have posted an article on Dr Binod Chandra Nayaka , Kendra Sahitya Academy Award winning Odiya Poet . He won numerous awards including Covoted Kendra Sahitya Academy award for his immortal poem collection " Sarisrupa " He had been the pioneer Poet who brought in a fresh wave of modern poetry to Odiya Literature . Unfortunately not much has been published on his writtings in the web except mention of his awards ans some of hs poems . I have been associated with him during his late years and am well versed in his literary creations . As such I would like to know how the said post can be made to be accepted . Thanking You Susant purohit (talk) 08:41, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

The said article has been rejected for reason inadequate references .Susant purohit (talk) 08:43, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Welcome to the Teahouse. You need to read Help:referencing for beginners, and learn how to use inline citations to make it clear which reference supports which parts of the article text. You also need to repair the broken link for the first ref. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:53, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
The article also has tone issues. It praises the poet in the voice of Wikipedia. If critics praised the poet, quote them. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:12, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
@Susant purohit: It's nowhere near neutral, and doesn't have enough sources. See our Neutral Point of View guidelines. ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 16:38, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Searchable name and bio

I would like my name and bio to be searchable in Wikipedia. How or what do I need to do or create in order for this to happen? Where and what would I do to be able to create this in Wikipedia. 74.206.69.53 (talk) 15:49, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

As you haven't told us what your name is, it's hard to answer. If there is already significant discussion of you in reliable independent published sources, it may be possible to create an article about you (but you shouldn't try to create one yourself). Maproom (talk) 15:55, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Hello, 74.206.69.53, welcome to the Teahouse. Please note that Wikipedia is not a means of promotion, social networking service, or directory. Please see the Wikipedia:Notability (people) guideline, which expands fully on what criteria must be met for a biographical article about a person. Significant discussion in reliable and independent published sources is the quick general version of it. The guideline gives more detail and explanation; and there are some specific classes of people (such as academics) who are assessed against different criteria (also covered in that guideline). If you are confident that you meet the notability criteria, we can go into more detail about the best way forward. Murph9000 (talk) 18:12, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

One Article

I am new here. Wanna write only one article.... it's allready in my sandbox... but I Need someone who could fix some stuff for me.... I am to stupid, I guess....

--Torsten Lang (talk) 14:49, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

I took a look at the article, and it mostly just needs inline citations. It's well-written and the subject seems notable enough. White Arabian Filly Neigh 15:46, 21 September 2016 (UTC)


Hi, could someone please do a "make over" on the references and the web links? They are in the article, just look bad I do not know how this works, sorry :-( Thanks Torsten Lang (talk) 09:49, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

@Torsten Lang: It's not just the form or style of the inline references, it's their general lack. For the entire Vita section, about 333 words, you have only one reference, and that on the second sentence. Where did all that material come from? Please read Help:Referencing for beginners; it explains what you need much better than I could. --Thnidu (talk) 03:32, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

@Thnidu.... Okay got it. Did add 2 more... 3. http://www.pf-christmas-concert.de/musik/major-dwayne-s-milburn/ 4. http://www.eur.army.mil/band/leaders/default.htm All information in my article is right and verified. This 4 references cover it all (and even more) up. Better?Torsten Lang (talk) 10:03, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

I am confused what to write what not to write can you suggest some good ideas.? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashok Singh Ashu (talk • contribs) 07:37, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Article entirely copied from a reference

Hello I would like to ask whether it is against Wikipedia editing standards to copy and paste the bulk of a Wikipedia article from one reference? I just noticed that the 'Cartwheels in a Sari' book article is copied word for word - that is 5 out of 6 paragraphs are basically copy and pasted from refwrench:2 the Forbes 2009 magazine article. I am pretty sure that on Wikipedia you cannot do that? I wasn't sure where to report this so thought the Teahouse would be a good place to start. Would an experienced Wikipedia editor mind checking and reading the article? Your reply would be very appreciated. Thank you for your time. 121.90.227.208 (talk) 08:57, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello, 121.90.227.208, welcome to the Teahouse. Thank you for your concern, it does appear that there may be a copyright violation in that article, which is something that we take very seriously. Obviously, with over 5 million articles, it can be extremely difficult to police this and sometimes something remains uncaught for a while. I have tagged the page for our formal copyright investigation process, which will determine how best to fully resolve the issue, and the article is hidden from view while this proceeds. Thanks. Murph9000 (talk) 13:29, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Review process

ticle on a mountaineer. How long will the review process take and how to know if it will get published at all or not?AnweshaB (talk) 16:10, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello, AnweshaB, welcome to the Teahouse. It looks like your original message here was truncated, so please do ask any other questions not answered by this. Your draft article on your user page had not been submitted for review. I have added a special tag to the top of it which gives you a "Submit your draft for review!" button to submit it to the Articles for Creation review process. Please submit it when you are ready to begin the process. It can take some time, as we have a very large volume of draft submissions, and we are pretty much all volunteers. I won't offer a prediction on the likely outcome of the review (as I am not a reviewer), but sometimes it can take a few attempts before the article is accepted. Please work with the reviewers, and they will provide feedback to let you know what changes (if any) are needed to meet our required standards. Please feel free to ask more questions. Murph9000 (talk) 16:33, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Could use some help adding to an existing article.

Could use some help adding to an existing article - Cunt (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Cunt: 5. Examples of Use - 5.7 Film

5. Examples of Use 5.7 Film In the Exorcist (1973), the possessed Regan MacNeil (Linda Blair) begins talking like director Burke Dennings (Jack MacGowran) whose recent unexplained death at the foot of the stairs outside her window is being investigated by police. Chris MacNeil (Ellen Burstyn), the mother of Regan and an actress in a film directed by Burke begins interacting with Burke's voice, asking, "Burke, is that you?" to which Burke, replies, "Yes." Chris then asks, "Is my daughter (Regan) there? Again, the voice of Burke replies "Yes". And then Chris asks, "Is she alright?" and the voice of Burke replies, "Oh, she's being her cunting self!" [1]

^ The Exorcist (1973), a horror film directed by William Friedkin, adapted from William Peter Blatty's 1971 novel of the same name.

The feedback I received was "Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was:

This doesn't appear to be a draft article. It isn't clear whether it is meant to be included in the article or is just a comment, but it is not a draft article.Appsguy2 (talk) 18:08, 25 September 2016 (UTC)"

Thus, it is intended to be included in the article (and not just a comment). Any suggestions, please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Appsguy2 (talk • contribs) 18:16, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Appsguy2, welcome to the Teahouse. Robert McClenon was correct, your userspace draft is not an article. It looks to me like you have drafted a proposed change / addition to a section of an existing article. We don't normally handle those through the formal Articles for Creation process; it is intended to only be used for complete articles. In this case, you should propose your changes on the existing article's talk page, at Talk:Cunt, by just adding a new section detailing your thoughts and what you would like to change. You can, of course, normally just be bold and edit the article, although proposing changes first is never a bad thing (especially on potentially controversial articles or sections). In this case, however, the article has been indefinitely "semi-protected". That means that anonymous IPs and new users can't directly edit it, so the article's talk page is where you should be going. You can then either wait to see if anyone watching the article replies with comments, or just go straight to a formal edit request by adding {{edit semi-protected}} at the top of your new talk section detailing the edit request. I'm deliberately not offering an opinion either way on your changes, as this is the wrong venue for that; it's better to have that discussion on the article's talk page. You are most welcome to ask more questions about how the process works, etc, or if anything is unclear. See also: Wikipedia:Edit requests. Murph9000 (talk) 18:27, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Uploaded logo deleted from Commons

I was notified that the logo I uploaded (for the sports club I am writing an article for) was deleted from Commons because of "Copyright violation".

I am a new user and this is my first article. How do I go about uploading the logo correctly? (the sporting club has advised the logo can be used on Wikipedia).

Thanks 115.187.185.60 (talk) 07:12, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, IP editor. Anything that is uploaded to Wikimedia Commons must be released under an acceptable Creative Commons or equivalent license, or must be copyright free. Copyrighted logos simply aren't allowed on Commons. Take a look at our policy on use of non-free images #2. Team logos can be uploaded here on Wikipedia (not Commons) for use in a single article about the team. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:38, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
To supplement what Cullen328 has said, IP user, have a look at WP:LOGO. --ColinFine (talk) 13:03, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for your help Cullen328 & ColinFine - much appreciated help for this brand new Wiki user! Hoey906 (talk) 01:14, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Help updating an existing page

Dear Wikipedian, I am trying to update the Betony Vernon page. I work with Betony and the page has existed for over 10 years and hasn't been updated for many years. It has had a warning banner for a while and we would like to update the page to remove this and have the correct information on the page. I have read many of the tutorials and I am trying to add new links, citations and references and want to update the copy. I have received a notification to stop editing, please help?? Danica lepen (talk) 19:50, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello Danica lepen, welcome to the Teahouse. If you have a personal or professional connection to Vernon you have a conflict of interest and should not be editing the article about her. Wikipedia is supposed to be a neutral, volunteer-written encyclopaedia and I'm sure you can understand that having articles on people written by their friends or colleagues undermines that ideal. If there are errors in the article, you can use its talk page to request that somebody else correct them. Including the text {{edit request}} with your request will speed up the process, but please be sure to include references for any information you think should be added.
Also note that there is currently a discussion about whether Vernon meets our criteria for inclusion, and depending on the outcome the article may be deleted shortly. Joe Roe (talk) 02:07, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

I would love of some help

Every time I add something to the JT LeRoy page somebody is taking it down. Even when I use citations, whatever my contribution, it gets eliminated. I'm quite sure that Laura Albert or one her aliases or friends has to be tightly managing the page. It is apparent from all of the links. She claims that she is being 'defamed' and it is typical of her to play the victim. What would be the best way to make sure a true account is out there for the public record? Thank you. I've been sent lists of links and information and I have read a lot, but it's not helping.Msturm 8 (talk) 07:06, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Msturm 8: instead of edit warring, you and NVG13DAO should both discuss the issues on the article's talk page. Maproom (talk) 07:23, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
...and in those discussions, please remember that Wikipedia is not the place to air your opinions about the subject, nor to debate what is good or bad, right or wrong, legal or illegal. Wikipedia summarizes what other reliable sources say on the matter. --Gronk Oz (talk) 14:57, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

On January 2, 2016, Robertissimo requested that the editor "108.200.141.120" stop posting vanity additions to the JT LeRoy entry and broach the subject on Talk before reposting again. But that person ignored the Talk page kept on trying to add the same and related promotional materials and vandalisms. The same edits kept up throughout January 2016, only the name of the editor kept changing: "Itzat94118," "Earthyperson," "Truthlovepeace." This person also came back in March 2016 as "174.119.2.166," but then fell quiet. That is, until September 21. Now using the name "Msturm 8," similar disruptions and distortions to this page have recurred: various attempts to promote the film "The Cult of JT LeRoy" and its director, Marjorie Sturm. I repaired the entry but "Msturm 8" has come back repeatedly, often using different editor names, trying to boost her film -- which by the way is already cited in the article, along with other recent films about the JT LeRoy saga. (The Jeff feuerzeig film is mentioned at the top because it's the only documentary on this subject to receive international theatrical distribution.) So I keep repairing it. For anyone to use Wikipedia to sell a movie is abhorrent. Eternal vigilance, I'm told, is the price of liberty...NVG13DAO (talk) 15:32, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

You are attempting to remove material cited to reliable sources and to insert uncited material. This is not acceptable. If you have evidence of sockpuppetry, WP:SPI is the place for the evidence. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:18, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
I've requested and gotten full protection on the page (one of the three editors I saw in the page history was autoconfirmed) so you will discuss the issue on the talk page without further edit warring. The article will be protected for one week, and no one (except administrators) will not be able to edit it until that week is up. And, no, I'm not an administrator, so don't ask me to edit the article whichever way you want. So go to the article's talk page and discuss. -- Gestrid (talk) 02:18, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

How do I get a reliable source when there is not much information on the subject?

This subject is very important yet there is hardly any information on it, how should I go about writing an article about something important that doesn't have solid sources? Pccd1221:08, 25 September 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pccd12 (talk • contribs)

If it doesn't have solid sources it is not, in Wikipedia's view, notable. Your personal opinion of its importance is not considered. Maproom (talk) 21:29, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
@Pccd12: Welcome to the Teahouse. Unless reliable sources devote significant coverage to a given topic, then Wikipedia will not have an article about that topic. How are we supposed to know that the topic is "very important" as you said unless it is discussed by reliable sources? We certainly will not pay much attention to one individual editor's opinion on that, whether that editor is you or me or someone else. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 02:37, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
@Maproom: All right thank you, this cleared some things up.

Improve the text "Joelle Khoury" for publishing

Could you please advice what to specify or eventually delete in the text ? What seems superfluos... What parts do I have to stress on? Article "Joelle Khoury" (Draft)

Thank you so much for your help. Musicleb (talk) 04:30, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

@Musicleb: Welcome to the Teahouse. Most sections of your article lack references to reliable, independent sources. These sections need to be properly referenced or removed. A Wikipedia article should summarize what such independent sources say, and many of your sources do not appear to be independent. So, I also recommend that you remove the weak sources and try to find better sources. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:09, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

I am not allowed to put up a page on GAME (an NGO)

Hi.

I tried a couple of times to put up an article regarding GAME (a danish/lebanese NGO). Both its size and its international ambitions make the organization mention-worthy I think. How do I get it up?

Best regards, Malte MalteKBH (talk) 06:45, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello Malte (MalteKBH). I cannot talk directly to the issue of notability in your case. But it would help considerably if you referenced your draft article with full citations, as recommended in Wikipedia:Citing sources § Generally considered helpful:

improving existing citations by adding missing information, such as by replacing bare URLs with full bibliographic citations: an improvement because it aids verifiability, and fights linkrot.

That would enable the reviewer to quickly gain an understanding of the quality of your secondary sources. For more information on citing sources, see Wikipedia:Citing sources. Hope this helps. RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 09:41, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Reuse of Wikipedia text

Can I simply copy and paste text (with citations) from another article on Wikipedia? Or do I have to rephrase the material as well? Best wishes. RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 09:48, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi RobbieIanMorrison. You can copy text within Wikipedia if you credit the source in the edit summary with a link and text like copied content from [[page name]]; see that page's history for attribution. See more at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. If you copy citations then please check that they display correctly on the new page. They sometimes rely on other parts of the old page. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:15, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
Hello PrimeHunter. Many thanks for the prompt reply. RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 10:58, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Page redirected from old username

How to stop a page from getting redirected from previously used username?The page created gets displayed on search engines via the previously used username which has now been changed.Chic500 (talk) 11:43, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello Chic500. Can you tell us what article you are talking about? Or is it your own username? Joe Roe (talk) 11:52, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
The article is about a Mountaineer,Satyarup Siddhanta. And it is my previous username AnweshaB. The link to it https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Chic500&redirect=no Chic500 (talk) 12:00, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
Another user has removed the redirect for you. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:44, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
The page is still visible over the internet with same display title as that of old username and gets redirected to the old page as well.The link (redirected from:old username) is still available. Could I change the display title? Chic500 (talk) 14:21, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
Neither User:AnweshaB nor User:Chic500 will now redirect to Draft:Satyarup Siddhanta. If you are looking somewhere else on the internet, outside of Wikipedia, then that is not Wikipedia's problem. You will either need to take the problem up with them or just to wait for them to empty their caches or otherwise correct the problem. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:33, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
As User, User talk, Draft and Draft talk pages are automatically noindexed via a software setting, they should not be appearing in search engine indexes any case. - Arjayay (talk) 14:43, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

How to add an image in article?

I want to add images in articles,i createdAnaskhan000 (talk) 16:15, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Anaskhan000, and welcome to the Teahouse. Unfortunately, you still have to wait for your account to be autoconfirmed before you can upload images. This is to protect against image vandalism (such as, for example, mass upload of copyrighted images). However, once your account has made 10 edits in total and has been active for 4 days, you will automatically be autoconfirmed and be able to upload images using this form. -- Gestrid (talk) 17:23, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi Anaskhan000, see Help:Files for an overview of how to upload and use images. If the creator of an image has explicitly licensed it for reuse by anyone for anything, you could upload it to Commons without being autoconfirmed. But images relating to your soap operas are probably not licensed that way; so you will have to wait till you are autoconfirmed. —teb728 t c 19:25, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
And if the images are indeed not licensed, you must study the Non-free content criteria and use them only in a way which complies with all the criteria, Anaskhan000}. It is one of the unfortunate consequences of Wikipedia's policy of making everything freely available for reuse that the use of images is very constrained in Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 17:42, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Stub Images

Anyone know how to alter the stub image that comes up when you search for an article? The logo for an article is fine on the page, but too tall for the stub. I have a square version but don't know how to upload.

Om285 (talk) 13:26, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Om285, welcome to the Teahouse. I guess you refer to searches at the mobile version. The image is chosen automatically from images on the page. See mw:Extension:PageImages#Image choice. There is no support for editing articles or images to try to manipulate the choice. Logos are often uploaded with a fair-use claim and such images will not be chosen for copyright reasons. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:37, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Why is my page not conforming to guidelines

Hi guys, the page I have written has not been accepted and I'm not sure why. Its short and sweet, doesn't contain any explicit, offensive or graphic content. Please can someone explain to me what rules the page is breaking. Thanks in advance, Si. SiMutch (talk) 19:29, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

It is written in promotional language (which could be fixed) and cites no references at all to establish that its subject is notable (which probably can't be). Maproom (talk) 19:46, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
Welcome to the Teahouse. To start with you need to read the various links provided in the welcome message on your user talk page, including WP:Your first article. Your article has no references, has no demonstration of notability, has numerous inappropriate inline external links, is written addressing the reader in the second person (see MOS:YOU), and has been summarised as "... serves only to promote or publicise an entity, person, product, or idea, and would require a fundamental rewrite in order to become encyclopedic." --David Biddulph (talk) 19:44, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

can i delete a redirection?

I started an article about the first nursing department in a UK university 'Nursing Studies' however it has been deleted and redirected to nursing education which is not the article topic. Can I do anything? Nursingafwood (talk) 14:45, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

The redirection was explained in the edit summary for this edit. To justify a separate article you would have to show that the department had received significant coverage (separate from the university as a whole) in published reliable sources independent of the subject. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:02, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
You can't delete pages unless you are an administrator. But you canask for it to be deleted. Gary "Roach" Sanderson (talk) 19:08, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
I don't think it's really a deletion that Nursingafwood is asking for, Gary "Roach" Sanderson: if it were deleted then searching for the page would bring up nothing (or rather, would do a general search) . I think they want it to be an article in its own right. Nursingafwood, it is in fact possible to edit the redirect page and to change it to an article (after you let it redirect you, you pick the link at the top where it says "Redirected from Nursing Studies" and then you will see the redirect page that you can edit). But I suggest that you don't do that until you have discussed it with WikiDan61.
In fact, I see that what you have done, Nursingafwood, is to redirect Nursing education to your new draft Nursing Studies University of Edinburgh. This is certainly incorrect, and I have undone it: a general topic should not redirect to a specific department. If your new draft is accepted, there could be a WP:Hatnote at the top of Nursing Studies to say something like "For the depart of this name at the University of Edinburgh, see ... ", but not a redirection, because if somebody comes looking for "Nursing studies" they are far more likely to be looking for an article about the subject in general than for a department which happens to have that name. Your draft also does not follow Wikipedia's naming conventions. I strongly advise you to read your first article, Nursingafwood, and create your draft in draft space using the Article wizard. Or you could move your draft to draft space. --ColinFine (talk) 22:34, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
@Nursingafwood: As the "culprit" in this case, perhaps I can explain further. The original article at Nursing Studies was an article about one university's Nursing Studies program, an article that would not have passed a deletion discussion based on WP:OUTCOMES, where it has been generally agreed that individual university programs are not notable in the absence of significant coverage of that program separate from the university. If the original article had asserted sufficient notability, I would have moved it anyway, because the title "Nursing Studies" is far too generic. As it stands, the title did not make for a valid redirect (to University of Edinburgh, for example) because, again, it is far too generic. I disagree with @ColinFine:'s suggestion of the hatnote, as again, the general title "Nursing Studies" is far too generic to have hatnotes pointing to specific nursing programs (to be fair, we'd need to add a hatnote pointing to every nursing studies article on Wikipedia!). Instead, I recommend leaving the "Nursing Studies" article as a redirect to Nursing education, and adding the Nursing Studies University of Edinburgh (should that article pass its present deletion discussion) to a list of nursing education programs, if such a list exists, or to the appropriate category. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 22:55, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

How do i go about changing the name of an article?

I have created an article for Paul Godfrey, who is the founding member of the band Morcheeba. When creating it my original name for the article was Paul Godfrey (Morcheeba). I understand having (morcheeba) in brackets doesn't follow guidelines as I was advised this is why it was changed. However It has now been changed to Paul Godfrey (Lyricist). I don't feel that lyricist best describes Paul as a musician. I would prefer if it were Paul Godfrey (Musician) or just Paul Godfrey on its own. Any help would be appreciated. Samfov (talk) 14:12, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

It isn't Paul Godfrey (Lyricist), but Paul Godfrey (lyricist); case is significant in Wikipedia page titles. You can't use Paul Godfrey, as that is a Canadian businessman. Paul Godfrey (Musician) would be wrong on case grounds, but Paul Godfrey (musician) might be acceptable, so the process would be to "move" the article. It probably isn't worth worrying too much about the title until the current deletion discussion is complete. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:57, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
Just a note that you, Samfov, have been asked to explain yourself further at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Godfrey (lyricist). -- Gestrid (talk) 23:09, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
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