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Vandalism in all caps

Hello. A while ago i adapted the german Version of Vaginamuseum. Today I edited the english article. When I wanted to publish the article suddenly this came up: Fehler: Diese Aktion wurde automatisch als schädlich erkannt und deshalb nicht ausgeführt. Wenn du denkst, dass deine Aktion konstruktiv war, wende dich bitte an einen Administrator und schildere ihm, was du versucht hast beizutragen. Kurzbeschreibung der verletzten Regel: Vandalism in all caps.

I did not do any vandalism, I just adapted the text, cleared the structure of the content, addeded sources and embedded images...

I already wrote a help on the talk-page, tried to contact another user, wrote some help on my own talk-page and asked at the chat. Until now, no one answered. What do I have to do now? Thank you --Pinkerry (talk) 12:43, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Hey Pinkerry. That is...super confusing actually. It looks like you may have accidentally triggered an edit filter of some type, but...you're getting an error in German when trying to edit the English article? Or is this an error you got while trying to edit the German article? GMG ^talk 12:57, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

@GreenMeansGo: it is possible to change your preferences at en.wiki to get system messages in a number of different non-English languages. --bonadea contributions talk 13:05, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Oooh. Ok. I thought you could just do that on multi-lingual projects. Thanks for clearing that up.

Hmm... well... ping... @Xaosflux:, who seems to be the most active person at the edit filter noticeboard currently. Maybe they can help. GMG ^talk 13:11, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

@GreenMeansGo: regarding the message language, yes editors can chose their own "interface language" - it is not really advisable if you are actually fluent in English here, as you will miss out on all of our MediaWiki: namespace customization and see the default text instead. In this case it looks to be translatewiki:MediaWiki:Abusefilter-disallowed/de, parameters (the $1) part will still call localized information such as the filter common name as seen above. — xaosflux ^Talk 13:27, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

ok, so you triggered Special:AbuseFilter/225, which is about obscenities in all caps. Are you sure you didn't have a stray VAGINA somewhere? One of the sources or something? Something like that, or another vaguely obscene word in all caps Galobtter (pingó mió) 13:18, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Making three more edits will allow you to bypass that check anyhow (basically an automated check on your edit thought it was vandalism). You can try retrying the edit. Galobtter (pingó mió) 13:21, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Looking at [1], looks like the culprit was File:Logo-VAGINAMUSEUMat RGB.jpg Galobtter (pingó mió) 13:28, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

TIL, if you upload an image with a title containing the word vagina, make sure it's in sentence case. GMG ^talk 14:27, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

thank you for answering me, i am sorry for beeing late, i was not sure about the answer comes so quick, as i was waiting a long time for the other answers. This all is a bit too much. I am a newbe and I do not know what steps I have to do next? about the upload of the picture...i implemeted the same picture in the german article successfully.--[

Well Pinkerry. Probably the easiest solution is for you to "request" that a file mover on commons (like yours truly) move the file you uploaded, as the uploader, to a name that doesn't include VAGINA in all caps. If you make that request, then by policy I can move it for you without the risk of someone making a stink about me breaking move policy. GMG ^talk 14:38, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your quick replay. How do i request that i am the uploader? Or should i upload another picture without Vagina in it? By the way, the planned UK Vagina Museum also has a picture named Vagina Museum Logo.jpg. which is listed in the UK article.--Pinkerry (talk) 14:49, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

No problem at all Pinkerry. So I added the image to the article for you, and moved the file to File:Vaginamuseum logo.jpg, which hopefully will avoid having any similar problems in the future, if someone tried to add the image to another project with the same filter in place. GMG ^talk 14:51, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. I have seen now the logo is in the article. What's about the rest of my adaption i worked on in the morning? Should i write this again now? --Pinkerry (talk) 14:56, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Yes Pinkerry, my understanding it you should be just fine now. Inserting sexual content in all caps in articles is a pretty common form of vandalism, which is why the edit filter was created, to stop vandals from doing it. The problem was that when you tried to add an image title which contained "VAGINA" in all capital letters, the software thought you were vandalizing the article, because it's too dumb to realize you're editing an article entitled Vaginamuseum. All it knew was that your edit contained the letters "V-A-G-I-N-A" in that order. GMG ^talk 15:03, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

I understand - thank you --Pinkerry (talk) 15:34, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you all for your help. I can see my adaption now - this is so stunning, i am very happy <3 --Pinkerry (talk) 15:05, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

No problem at all. Feel free to drop back by if you run into any other issues. GMG ^talk 15:08, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

One last questions: Why are the pictures deleted now? What does copyvio mean?--Pinkerry (talk) 15:34, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Pinkerry As the notice says, File:Vaginalogie, Vaginamuseum, 2016.png has been marked as a possible copyright violation. Wikimedia Commons only accepts free content—that is, images and other media files that can be used by anyone, for any purpose. Traditional copyright law does not grant these freedoms, and unless noted otherwise, everything you find on the web is copyrighted and not permitted here. Basically, people own images or other stuff they make, and unless they say that they allow the image to be used for any purpose and by anyone, it cannot be uploaded into commons or wikipedia. Similarly, be careful to not copy text from their website or other websites. Galobtter (pingó mió) 15:45, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Hey Pinkerry. If the museum would like to license these images in a way that is compatible with use on Commons, they can do so by following the instructions at WP:CONSENT. In the instance of the logo itself, it's too simple of a design to be copyrighted, because it's pretty much just text, but the other images are much more complicated and would have to be released under a license that allows free public use. GMG ^talk 16:01, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. I downloaded the pictures from the website itself under http://www.vaginamuseum.at/downloads. These are zip-files for press related content. I will hand out the declaration to Vaginamuseum to sign and send it to Commons as soon as possible.--Pinkerry (talk) 16:10, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Well Galobtter. If an OTRS confirmation is incoming, reckon we should change the tags to pending verification? GMG ^talk 16:12, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

I see that Moheen Reeyad has already deleted it. Galobtter (pingó mió) 16:15, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Oke - if the pictures are deleted anyway, i do not need to send a declaration anymore, do i? I will tell Vaginamuseum to upload them again - if they have time to do so. Can I use the images afterwards in these articles? Should they send a declaration as well, if they upload the images again? Do i have to be scared that my account will be deleted now? I did not want to harm anyone. Still I do not clearly understand because these images can be downloaded directly from Vaginamuseum. This downloadsite is for press realted content and these images in the zip-files also have been shown in media articles.--Pinkerry (talk) 16:41, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Hey Pinkerry. You just made an honest mistake. If someone gets fussy over it, point them to this thread, or heck, point them to me and we can explain things I'm sure. Yes, the museum will need to upload the images again, with a tag that says they have sent an email for verification that they've licensed them appropriately following the instructions provided at WP:CONSENT. The email may take a little while to process, but if it hasn't been received within 60 days the images will again be deleted. If they need help with this feel free to point them to me, and they can either leave a message on my talk page or send me an email and I'll try to work them through it (assuming they speak English, I don't speak German). Once the images are properly licensed, you will be free to use them on the article any way you like.

The problem is complicated, because it has a lot to do with international copyright law, but in an nutshell, being publicly available like content on a pubic website, isn't legally the same thing as being licensed for unrestricted public use, and with few exceptions, content on Wikipedia need to be licensed for unrestricted public use, because that's the type of license that the content on Wikipedia is itself published under. So generally, content on Wikipedia needs to be free not only for the public to consume, but also for the public to reuse, because Wikipedia is free for anyone to reuse for any purpose. GMG ^talk 16:54, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Oke, i understand. But actually, then the logo should be deleted as well! The wording Vaginamuseum ist a registered trademark (EUIPO) (see: http://www.vaginamuseum.at/about). I mentioned this during the uploadprocess by pointing it out with TM. I was searching how others did - for example coca-cola is also a registered trademark. By the way, how is it with this UK Vagina Museum. Do they have the permission to use the wording Vaginamuseum? Because they have a wikipedia site as well. Did commons get any note about they have the permission to use the wording Vaginamuseum? If not actually this is also a copyright problem, istn't it? --Pinkerry (talk) 17:12, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Actually Pinkerry the logo is a little different because of how simple it is (see also c:Commons:Threshold of originality). It still qualifies as a trademark, and we can't use it in any way that would violate that trademark, but use on Wikipedia is educational and free, so we normally don't have to worry about that. We just have to worry about the copyright. GMG ^talk 17:16, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you @GreenMeansGo: for your poper help and advice. I may keep you in mind and if i have further questions i may get in touch with you again. This conversation was very helpful for me and i am pleased that everything had gone out positive.Pinkerry (talk) 18:18, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

As an editor in Wikipedia, how do I know if a quote relating to the article is relevant?

For instance, I recently had a quote relating to Coca Cola from Andy Warhol removed because it was not constructive. I'm confused, because it relates to Coca Cola, maybe it was just too tacky? Sunday 16:27, 17 April 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SundaysChild (talk • contribs)

I've no opinion on whether the quote you added might have a useful place somewhere in the article. But you put it right at the top, before the sentence that explains what Coca Cola is. It was certainly out of place there, and another editor was right to remove it. Maproom (talk) 17:01, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

SundaysChild The quote also seems out of place since Warhol isn't mentioned in the article, and you should not expect readers to know who he is, many won't. Maybe he should be mentioned, maybe there should be an "In art" section (or article), but as of now there's not.

Also, edits like this [2] gets removed because the WP:LEAD is meant to summarize the rest the article, so no Warhol in the lead unless he is in the body, and maybe not even then, it depends on how prominent he is there. That said, I think the Advertising section should get in the lead in some form, with or without Santa. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:56, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Is My Page Ready for Publication Review?

Hi there,

I am hoping to get some feedback from some friendly members here. The page I am working on is in draft form - but as of today, I am crossing my fingers and hoping that it be sufficient to pass Review. The page: [[3]] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Tom_Trafalski

Do you see anything I need to do to improve my chances of a successful Review?

Many, many thanks for your help!

--Jkcproject (talk) 19:06, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Jkcproject If it were up to me, no. Weasel-wording and peacockery is not technically a valid reason for rejecting an article at AfC, but you might as well do it now: You still use terms like "world-renowned". Try writing without adjectives. Never use "numerous" unless you really mean a great number. Notability is esatblished by the availability of sources. You're using imdb,com 129 times. Remove those citations. IMDB is not a reliable source, just like Wikipedia, because it can be edited by anyone. Classmates and allmusic are equally problematic. You should find alternatives for those. Vexations (talk) 20:03, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

I have restyled the draft to follow Wikipedia's standards, and removed the worst of the promotional language. I would recommend shortening the lists of awards and the discography. Maproom (talk) 20:28, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Editing Problem

I have already edited few things on Wikipedia but I cannot find the link to edit one page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esteghlal_F.C. Esteghlal has now 26 victories over its rival Persepolis, but it shows 25 victories in above mentioned page. The last victory was on March, 1 2018 and has already been edited in page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehran_derby Now I cannot edit it. I do not see EDIT tab on the page I wish to edit. Please let me know how I can do this. Thanks,

Ehsan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ehsannabiyouni (talk • contribs) 16:23, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

@Ehsannabiyouni: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. The link you provided goes to a page that does not exist; its article talk page had been created and deleted at one point. You cannot yet create a new article as you do not have at least 10 edits. 331dot (talk) 16:26, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

@331dot I am not trying to create an article. I am just trying to edit a page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esteghlal_F.C. which already exists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ehsannabiyouni (talk • contribs) 16:33, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

When I visit that link, it goes to a page that has not been created yet. If it did that for you, that would be why you cannot create it. If this article exists, the link is not correct. 331dot (talk) 16:38, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Please add any subsequent comments to this section and remember to sign your posts with ~~~~. 331dot (talk) 16:39, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I just copied the link from the already existing article for Esteghlal F.C. and don't know why it does not work. I do not intend to create an article, I just want to edit that page, and it does not allow me to do so. Was wondering how I could do that. Thanks again Ehsannabiyouni — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ehsannabiyouni (talk • contribs) 16:50, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Okay, I found the page at Esteghlal F.C.. The page is protected from editing by autoconfirmed users for some reason(I haven't looked into it yet) so my original answer is still correct; because you don't have at least 10 edits, you can't yet edit that article. I think you are close to 10 edits by now, but either way I would first post to the article talk page. 331dot (talk) 17:00, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Note that the reason for the confusion above about whether the page existed was because you gave a URL rather than a wikilink. When a URL ends with a full stop a browser will usually treat the full stop as being the mark of the end of a sentence, so it is not included in the parsing of the URL. For that reason among others it is better to use a wikilink. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:38, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

331dot, Ehsannabiyouni: The page was semi-protected (which means that a user must be confirmed or auto-confirmed, normally after 4 days and 10 edits, to edit the page) on 1 February 2018 for 6 months duse to "persistant disruptive edits" as can be seen here. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 22:25, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Help on Be Careful (Cardi B song)

Hi there. I am having an issue on Be Careful (Cardi B song), a troll editor is edit warring, adding false unencyclopedic allegations from random people on Twitter and making it a section on the article called "Controversy". As I explained in my edit summary "firstly it cannot be ghostwriting if Jordan is officially credited as a songwriter. Secondly allegations that have been proved false bare no worth and if you read the source the allegations come from STAN TWITTER anyway so therefore are not encyclopedic or notable". I did not want to revert again as I'm scared I will break an edit war rule so was hoping someone could revert the user for me and give him a warning. Bardigang (talk) 15:41, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Bardigang, and welcome to the Teahouse. I am afraid that you have been edit warring on Be Careful (Cardi B song) more than any other recent editor, although some others have been also. And none of you have taken the matter to the talk page, Talk:Be Careful (Cardi B song), which is what you should do. Repeatedly reverting an edit by another editor is not acceptable, instead follow the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle, and take the matter to the talk page. If a consensus or agreement cannot be reached there, go to dispute resolution if the mater seems significant. Please stop reverting promptly. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 22:36, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Reviewing?

Can I review other people's drafts and articles? If yes, how do I do so? Coolkid526 (talk) 23:15, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

@Coolkid526:There are two projects regarding this: New Pages Patrol (new article reviewing) and Articles for creation (draft reviewing), both are for experienced editors, so you wouldn't qualify at this time (the conditions for joining these roles can be seen HERE). However, keep on editing and later on we would be happy to have you. — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)} 23:28, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, Coolkid526, and welcome to the Teahouse. If you means specifically doing Articles for Creation reviews, a user must have at least 500 undeleted edits, and 90 days of experience for that, as you can see here Franky, I doubt that anyone with just 90 days of editing experience could do a good job of that.

However, anyone may read and edit any article or draft in a good-faith attempt to improve it. You could call that "reviewing" in a sense. Do feel free to find articles in need of improvement and boldly make changes. if other editors think your changes are not helpful, they may be reverted but that is a normal part of the process and should notr be taken personally. Instead discuss the changes on the article talk page.

Editing drafts should be done a little more cautiously, as it can be assumed that they are not considered ready for general circulation by their authors, and many creators of drafts are comparatively new editors. Please remember WP:BITE, and be careful when giving any advice to be sure that you know the subject. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 23:30, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

@Coolkid526: Welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for wanting to make it better. See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation. Reviewers must have at least 500 edits and have an account at least 90 days old, so you will need to wait a bit. You can start by reading the info on that project page, and then by working to improve existing articles. See WP:Getting Started for how to get started editing. RudolfRed (talk) 23:31, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Review of semi-protected article, "List of best-selling video games"

Hey there.

This current existing [of best-selling video games] seems to have multiple discrepancies, missing entries, inconsistencies and incorrect statistics.

Examples: 'Tetris' entry has included every single variant of Tetris on every platform. Source sites are news articles that do not cite their own sources.

Counterstrike and Counterstrike Global Offensive are missing from the list, both with 25m+ sales each as of 2016. ( according to https://steamspy.com ).

World of Warcraft is missing from the list. ( As per Diablo III's entries which combines base game and expansion sales figures, that puts WoW total sales at 56.5 million copies sold as per blizzard entertainment statistics. )

That's just what I've found in 10 minutes of cursory Google searching. I'm currently not able to make the edits myself because of it's semi-protected nature status, but the entire list more or less needs to be deleted and started again from scratch. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saltyspecula (talk • contribs) 01:02, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Saltyspecula. The proper place to discuss your concerns about the article in question is Talk:List of best-selling video games. Be very specific about the changes you propose to make, and provide links to reliable sources that verify the changes. Statisticbrain.com does not look like a reliable source to me. It looks like they are promoting some sort of cryptocurrency. We do not delete articles about notable topics and then start again from scratch. Instead, we edit the existing articles to improve them. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:33, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

advice needed.

Hello.

Im looking for some advice.

I work at DejaVufm.com a UK based music radio station launched in 1994. We are known as a pioneering grassroots UK music station, with a proven record track record and a proud history. However what I get asked a lot is why we are not on wikipedia? - to which I am not able to answer. I assumed it was perhaps because we have not set up a page ourselves ?

Here's just one example Id like some clarity on. We are known and respected as one of the genuine founders of UK Grime music & UK Garage, which has been well documented in videos, films and interviews with leading musicians. A previous search of wikipedia for UK Grime Music our name was listed next to Rinse FM in the description of the genre. Now we notice when you click on the link, the entry no longer includes our name and imples this was created by Rinse only. Not a gripe but we feel as we do not have our own page, we are not fairly recognised and we like to set the record straight, as it appears we feel as if our proud history is being re-written

How do we go about this in the correct manner ?

Many thanks

wiki examples.

Grime (music genre) - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grime_(music_genre) Grime emerged in the early 2000s in London's East End. It has origins tied with UK pirate radio stations such as Rinse FM, Deja Vu FM, Major Fm, Freeze 92.7 and Raw Mission. At this point, the style was known by a number of names, including 8-bar (meaning eight-bar verse patterns), nu shape (which encouraged more ...

More links & examples whwew we are referenced https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dizzee_Rascal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_Better_Know https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meridian_Dan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_Fire_Crew https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Sloth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghostly_(musician) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scratcha_DVA

http://peel.wikia.com/wiki/Grime — Preceding unsigned comment added by OriginalDJDlux (talk • contribs) 01:20, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello OriginalDJDlux. Per the conflict of interest guideline editing the pages yourself is discouraged, so thanks for coming here instead. I would suggest that you could post links to reliable sources to the talk page at Talk:Grime_(music_genre) that show that the information in the article is incomplete. — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)} 01:41, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, OriginalDJDlux. The first thing that you must do is comply with our mandatory paid editing disclosure. Next, please be aware that your radio station is not entitled to a Wikipedia article just because it is mentioned several times in other Wikipedia articles. Instead, you need to provide evidence that your station is notable as Wikipedia defines that term. Please read and study Your first article, and if you want to write a draft article, please use the Articles for Creation process. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:48, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Help create a page for the Association of Minor League Umpires

Can someone please help me creating a page for the Association of Minor League Umpires? This is a national labor union of professional baseball umpires in Minor League Baseball. It is referenced in a number of other articles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Minor_League_Baseball_umpire_strike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_and_Professional_Employees_International_Union and it is an important national organization that needs a presence on wikipedia. I have first hand knowledge and experience with the AMLU, and can provide many relevant citeations for articles for the content in the page, the full history of the organization and everything needed to make a full and complete wikipedia article. I have tried playing around and building it on my own, but I cannot get it done myself. I am looking for someone to assist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SFNY 518 (talk • contribs) 15:49, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

@SFNY 518: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Please understand that no person or organization "needs" a Wikipedia article; in fact, there are good reasons one might not want an article about themselves. Regarding your question itself; an organization would merit an article on Wikipedia if independent reliable sources have written about it with in depth coverage that indicates how the organization meets the notability guidelines described at WP:ORG. Above you link to Wikipedia articles that discuss the organization, but don't indicate any independent sources that show notability. A national labor union would probably have a good chance at having such sources, and if they exist, this union would merit an article. If the sources exist, I would suggest visiting Articles for Creation to begin the process of drafting an article for review. If you would like someone else to write it, you can make a request at Requested Articles, but that area is severely backlogged, to the point where an article might never be written.

I would also ask you what exactly "firsthand knowledge and experience" means; were/are you an employee of the union itself? A member? If so you may need to read about conflict of interest and paid editing. Personal knowledge cannot be used as a citation, as it is difficult to verify, aside from not being an independent source. Your knowledge must be published somewhere independent and reputable. 331dot (talk) 15:58, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, SFNY 518. It appears that the "Association of Minor League Umpires" is a guild, or subdivision of the Office and Professional Employees International Union, rather than a fully independent trade union. Our guideline for this issue can be found at WP:BRANCH. In my opinion, the best way to cover this group is by adding well-referenced new content to the OPEIU article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:01, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Where can I find a list of all the possible userboxes?

I'd like to make my user page more interesting. I was wondering if there's a list of userbox templates somewhere? Or if there's a user with a lot of them in which I can see? Thanks in advance! Lucie Person (talk) 02:40, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Userboxes/Galleries has you covered! :) Elassint ^Hi 02:45, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

@Elassint Thanks so much for the quick reply! Lucie Person (talk) 02:48, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Who owns the copyright on "Spin-off" wiki pages? Are

On medical-wiki sites such as this EyeWiki, (which are powered by MediaWiki and Semantic MediaWiki), who actually owns the content users contribute to the site?>[4]

How is this regulated? Are sites that use Wiki software required to follow standard wikipedia policy and protocols? The admins of the above medical-wiki site only grant editorial access to selected individuals (is this allowable under the applicable Wikipedia/MediaWiki policy?)

The AAO, as well as other organisations, sponsored the development of the EyeWiki page. Does this give them the right to place the AAO logo is displayed on nearly every page of the Wiki? (is this allowable under Wikipedia/MediaWiki policy/protocols?)

The AAO is professional association, mainly for for american ophthalmologists. Whilst they are not-for-profit, membership requires a significant membership fee and is not required to practice ophthalmology in a professional capacity. They have salaried employees and they conduct significant marketing and branding activities to compete for membership fees from new and prospective members.

I'm interested in how this works. Using the site, it feels like the site is owned exclusively by AAO, and any content users contribute becomes the property of AAO.

I would appreciate it if someone who understands this would clarify this for me.

Cheers, Jkokavec (talk) 03:09, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Jkokavec. Truth be told, the Teahouse is for answering questions about Wikipedia. Wikipedia didn't invent the notion of wikis, and we have no authority over other Wikis. I'd advise either asking on that site, or trying Wikipedia:Reference desk for answers. Ravenswing 03:23, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

How do I add a picture to a Draft article

Can anyone give me some tips on the correct way to add a picture to a Draft article? Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jazzilisterwiki (talk • contribs) 05:46, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

You add a picture to a draft just as you would to an article – except that "fair use" images are only accepted in articles, not in drafts. Where, at present, is the images you want to use? Maproom (talk) 06:31, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Jazzilisterwiki, welcome to the Teahouse. I am assuming you have already found an image image you want to use on Wikimedia Commons? If not, go to this main page and type a keyword in the search box (it's at the top right in desktop view). If you find an image you like, but it's not quite the right one, you could click one or more of the "Categories" listed at the very bottom of the page. This helps keep related images together and helps you find others.

It could be like this one of a cup of tea that you want to use. Using an exisiting one is easier that a brand new image of your own that you would first have to upload from scratch. So, click on the link in the previous sentence, or click the photograph you see here - you're taken to the same place - and look just above the picture, and beneath the filename where you'll see a line of five small links. Look for the link with the tiny Wikipedia 'W' logo and the words "Use this file". Click that link and select the text offered to "Use this file on a Wiki as a Thumbnail". (The convention is always to add an image as a thumbnail, no matter how much you'd love to make it larger.) Copy the link to your clipboard and then go to the Wikipedia page you want to add it to (let's assume we want to add it to the page we're on now). Edit the page (ie click the tab labelled Edit Source). Scroll down to the section you'd like to add it to, and paste in the text you copied at the very top of that section. By default, this adds the thumbnail picture and its caption on the right hand side of the page, as you see here. To change the caption text, just edit the text to the right of the vertical bar - or 'pipe'. Don't change the filename.jpg text itself or the image link will be broken. There are some useful links on this help page: Wikipedia:Images with further guidance and tweaks, or detailed layout possibilities at Wikipedia:Picture tutorial.

Of course, if you are using the alternative Visual Editor (which is a bit more WYSIWYG), the process is slightly different. You once again navigate to the section where the image is needed, then, in the editing toolbar, click Insert > Media. At the search bar in the popup that then appears, type the keyword to search for certain image types, or just type in the filename of your image you've already chosen from Wikimedia Commons. Select the image and then click 'Use this image'. Before inserting it you'll be prompted to add a caption. Captions can include hyperlinks, but that's probably best left for another time. I hope this helps.

If you need advice on actually uploading your own image first, that requires a slightly different answer and a mention of copyright issues. Let us know if you need further help on that. Regards from the UK.Nick Moyes (talk) 06:56, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

It's a photo of the person about whom the draft is written. So I should wait to add a photo when (and if) the draft gets approved and published?

If the photo is already on WP:Commons then you could add it to the draft. If the photo is not already on commons, then we need to ask: who owns the copyright on the photo?. This will usually be the photographer unless he or she was paid to take the photo. Dbfirs 07:28, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jazzilisterwiki If you're referring to Draft:Jasmine Lister, then I'm afraid it's very unlikely that you will be able to add a non-free image of Lister to the article. Wikipedia's non-free content use criterion #1 does not allow non-free content to be used when there's a reasonable reason to expect that a free equivalent can be either found or created to serve the same encyclopedic purpose. While "reasonable" might seem a bit subjective, the long-standing consensus regarding non-free images of living persons is to not allow them except in certain very limited cases because it's believed that a photo of the person can be taken by someone, somewhere at sometime, and this image can then be uploaded to Wikipedia under a free license. So, you will either need to find an photo taken by someone else which has been released under a suitable free license, convince someone else to release a photo they have taken under such a free license (see WP:PERMISSION) or take such a photo yourself and release it under such a free license per WP:CONSENT. If very important that you understand that "free" in this context means "free from copyright protection" and not "free of charge". Most images you find online may be able to downloaded for free, but this does not mean they are free from copyright protection. Unless it clearly states that the image has been released under a free license, you should assume it hasn't and cannot be used except as non-free content. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:57, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion

Hi for no particular reason my article is up for a speedy deletion. Please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thrifty Kapila (talk • contribs) 07:54, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Thrifty Kapila: it is up for speedy deletion because, as explained in the deletion notice at the top of the article, it does nothing to establish that the subject is notable enough to justify the existence of an article. Maproom (talk) 08:15, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Thrifty Kapila: As indicated in the speedy deletion notice on top of Thrifty Kapila, there is a "particular reason", namely that it does not indicate any credible claim of significance of its subject. The only thing in there that looks like it could be a credible claim of significance is "over 7000 followers" for the Youtube channel, but even so, 7k followers is hardly enough for a Wikipedia article. Even taking into account your talk page comments, He holds an important place in Indian Advertising indstry is hardly credible for a 21-year-old person, barring sources to the contrary.

Notice that even if the article survives speedy deletion, it falls far short from meeting our requirement that article subjects be "notable" and would likely be deleted by the slower process nonetheless. You would do well to provide independent, reliable sources dealing with the subject at length to demonstrate notability.

Someone also gave you a notice linking to our guideline about autobiographies. You would do well to read it. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 08:19, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Adding a Picture

How do I copy a picture onto my talk page?UnbeatableFlame154 (talk) 00:06, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello there. You can upload or choose a picture from Wikimedia Commons Thegooduser Let's Chat 01:40, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello, UnbeatableFlame154. Just to expand on what Thegooduser said above, you might find this link to Wikimedia Commons more directly helpful. There (in desktop view) you'll find a search box at the top right. Having found an image you like, look for the small Wikipedia logo above the image, labelled "Use this file". Copy the thumbnail text and paste this into an article or your userpage. It's not normal practice to add images to talk pages unless you're actually communicating some concept to another edit. The image I've inserted here is created from this text from commons, though I've modified the last part which creates the caption text:

[[File:Moanalua Gardens Teahouse - panoramio.jpg|thumb|Moanalua Gardens Teahouse - you can easily edit the caption text]]

. I hope you may find our advice useful. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 08:56, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

How to create a wikipedia article page for my organisation

Hi Teahouse,

We would like to create a page related to our organisation on wikipedia, as there currently isn't one.

How do we do this?

The sandbox only allows us to create a user page, but not an encyclopedia article.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pankajpiyush (talk • contribs) 13:48, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Pankajpiyush. The first thing that you must do is comply with Wikipedia's paid editing disclosure. Next, please be aware that your company is not entitled to a Wikipedia article and due to conflict of interest concerns, editors are strongly discouraged from creating or editing articles for their own companies or companies they are involved with. You can write a draft article, though this is also discouraged, but if you decide to do so you can use the Articles for Creation process. — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)} 13:59, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Making Articles for People

Hello! I am currently trying to edit my School's Wikipedia page and add more alumni to it. For fun, I attempted to make a page for each of them as well. My submission was refused and it was said I had no citations. I know of places where these people have been mentioned, though it is no Times article, it is something. Thought these alumni are not known around the world as heroes, they are in our area and therefore, in my opinion, justify their addition to Wikipedia. If there are any tips on how to add these pages easier, please help me. Thanks - ThiccBoiSixtyNine — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThiccBoiSixtyNine (talk • contribs) 14:37, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

@ThiccBoiSixtyNine:, welcome to the Teahouse. Unfortunately, if a person does not meet Wikipedia's own peculiar requirements for notability, there can't be an article about them. The guideline is here, but basically, there must be multiple reliable independent sources discussing them in some detail. I'm afraid you would be wasting your own time if you tried to create articles about people who are well-known only in your local area. --bonadea contributions talk 14:49, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello, How do I change the title of an article with a misspelled word?

How do I change the title of an article?, It seems to bother me much. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67810Harold (talk • contribs) 02:06, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

@67810Harold: You would need permission to move the article, which your account does not have yet. In the mean time, you can leave a message on the article's talk page (not the article itself) or here and someone else can move it. Ian.thomson (talk) 15:34, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Help editing my Sandbox

Hello, I was wondering if somebody could help edit my sandbox which has information to expand the data mining section on the social media Wikipedia page. Here is the link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Emkim123/sandbox Thanks! --Emkim123 (talk) 15:26, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia and welcome to the Teahouse! It looks like you've already edited your sandbox. If you want to add what you wrote to the social media page, you can suggest that it be added on its talk page, Talk:Social media. — pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 16:10, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Mistaken redirect from Genetic Resources to Germplasm

Dear tea drinkers

we note that if you look for Genetic Resources in Wikipedia, it redirects to Germplasm. This is not a good redirect because genetic resources are something else. In fact, germplasm can be seen as a subset of genetic resources, rather than the other way round. I note that there are now pages on Animal Genetic Resources for Food and Agriculture, Forest Genetic Resources and Plant Genetic Resources (written by a colleague of mine). So Genetic Resources cannot redirect to one of these because it would have to redirect to all three at once. i don't think it's worth having a mini page on Genetic Resources just to accommodate the redirect

I think the appropriate solution would be to remove the redirect completely. Then from the articles on AGR, FGR and PGR, where germplasm is mentioned, we can simply do a normal link to the Germplasm article.

If this seems reasonable, how would I actually do this?

Thank you ArwenIncognito--ArwenIncognito (talk) 09:42, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi ArwenIncognito and welcome to the Teahouse! It sounds like it might be reasonable to create a disambiguation page at Genetic resources pointing to the three more specific articles - what do you think? --bonadea contributions talk 10:40, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Bonadea -- bonadea (talk)

Thank you for your speedy response. I am new round here, so please bear with me if i need to go through every single word and step of what you say. I have looked at the Disambiguation page notes, so this would be a page that would just list the three 'subpages' as it were (Plant Genetic Resources, Forest Genetic Resources, Animal Genetic Resources)?

Then, what about the redirection to Germplasm when you search Genetic Resources? How can we take that redirection off?

ArwenIncognito (talk) 11:55, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

You could perhaps include Germplasm as a 4th entry on the dab page, using the text from the first sentence of the Germplasm article (or similar wording) to provide the description for that entry. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:13, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

I created a dab page for Genetic resources to fulfill the request. --Frmorrison (talk) 14:19, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

While adding some more links to the disambiguation page, I discovered that the singlar genetic resource page existed as well, and it was redirecting to germplasm. I redirected that page to the plural genetic resources disambiguation. -- kewlgrapes (talk, contribs) 15:57, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

oh my goodness! i can't believe that you have done this already! I think what you have done is a perfect solution. Thank you. ArwenIncognito (talk) 16:41, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

How to direct a global entity search to the U.S. site for people in the U.S.

Hi there,

When I Google "Salvation Army," even from the U.S., the info in the right siderail from Wikipedia is info and site for the UK office. What is the best way to serve the US site (www.salvationarmyusa.org) to people searching from within the US? Most people search for "salvation army" but are expecting info about the US organization.

Thank you so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidNesmith (talk • contribs) 19:12, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

@DavidNesmith: Wikipedia does not have any control over what Google displays. You will need to contact Google to suggest a change in their search results. RudolfRed (talk) 19:18, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Here in the UK, under the "Tools" tab, Google gives the option to search any country or just UK sites. Is the same facility not available in the US? Dbfirs 19:53, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

For the record, I'm in the US and don't see a by country filter under the "Tools" tab. But there is a region filter on the advanced search page. -- kewlgrapes (talk, contribs) 17:05, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank youDavidNesmith (talk) 20:07, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Template quuestion

Would someone please look at Template: Florida and tell me why the last item in the code, the former Mosquito county, does not appear? Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 18:13, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi deisenbe. Template:US state navigation box#Parameters says: "There are a total of 8 group/list pairs, so you can use up to group8 and list8. Additional items can easily be added to the template if needed." title and body are aliases for group and list so you have to either omit body9 or add support for it to the template. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:26, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Reference issue

NOW RESOLVED. MANY THANKS. Allan Mungall (talk) 11:39, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

I have only recently joined and have been trying some edits. I know how to insert or edit references but am having a problem with a particular page where - when I try to enter to enter a reference and I successfully complete the "Edit" box - it doesn't appear in the reference list. I've searched for a solution but can't find what I'm doing wrong. Can you help? Article is Megget Reservoir. Allan Mungall (talk) 10:53, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

(PS. a reference has appeared below - I didn't insert it, and I have no idea its significance???) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allan Mungall (talk • contribs) 10:55, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

The reference which you saw here when this was the last section on the page was because someone had mistakenly used ref tags in an earlier section but had not used the {{reflist-talk}} template to keep that reference in the section to which it referred. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:31, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

questions: infobox publisher's template, wiki link tool

Hello, I recently created an article, Marsh Hawk Press. (1.) There is an infobox template for publishers "genre" listed, but when it publishes it is listed as "fiction genre." I would like to change that to just genre since the publisher does not publish fiction, but it won't change. Assume I could take the word "publisher" out of the Infobox tag but wouldn't that defeat the purpose of using a template and keep it off the publisher list? I also took the 'founder" category out but have some names to add now, but it won't let me re-add it. (Also assume I can just add a new version of the infobox template but I like to know how things work.) (2.) An editor made the page an orphan, used the link tool, and took the orphan tag off. He was kind enough to answer my question about it but I still don't quite get it since I had lots of links in the article, but I do notice that the link tool linked to articles mentioning the press that I have not linked to so I would like to find the help page on the link tool. Have been checking out the help pages but have not been able to get to the bottom of this. Help is appreciated. Thank you.Ogmany (talk) 18:51, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

1 - If you read Template:Infobox publisher#description of fields it says: "genre: If the publisher publishes fiction, specify the genre."

2 - WP:Orphan explains the meaning of the term. It refers to whether there are links "to" the article, not links "from" it. The "Find links" tool which the other editor used is described at User:Edward/Find link (a link that you'll find in the edit summary of his edits). --David Biddulph (talk) 19:06, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Ogmany. You should be able to add the parameter |founder= or |founders= into the infobox at any time. (It is not a category or a template itself, but a parameter to a template.) Templates only accept the set of parameters programed into them -- a new one cannot be added without changing the template itself, not just the use of it. The template documentation should list all the available parameters. If you want to propose a change or addition to a template, use its talk page, in this case Template talk:Infobox publisher. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 20:09, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. Will mention it in the Template Talk and the Find Link tool is so useful. Did not recall I should link from other articles when creating an article. I do read the help sections but just do not absorb it all. Appreciate the Teahouse community.Ogmany (talk) 20:35, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Mentioned at Wikipedia:Your first article#Avoid orphans. Well worth reading WP:YFA carefully, if you haven't already done so. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:41, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

editing

has anyone ever been blocked on wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jramos420 (talk • contribs) 21:21, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

All vandals are eventually blocked if they fail to heed the warnings on their talk pages. We try to assume good faith and allow for the occasional mistake or childish joke, but be assured that a block always follows if advice and warnings are ignored. Why not make constructive edits, then your contribution will be appreciated? Dbfirs 21:27, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Editing a protected Wikipedia page.

How do I edit a Wikipedia page that is protected? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cabajuice (talk • contribs) 22:24, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

@Cabajuice: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. The short answer is that you don't. However, you can go to the associated talk page and make an edit request for what you would like to see done. 331dot (talk) 22:30, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Photo Use

I am trying to add a profile photo of an author who specifically sent me to add to her page - it was deleted with this reason - This file is a copyright violation for the following reason: © Dianna Hutts Aston. All Rights Reserved. • , http://diannahaston.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/dianna-hutts-aston-profile.jpg It is her work - do i have her log on and do it herself cuz technically it is hers?

thanks

Mikkopresents (talk) 23:10, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Mikkopresents. The answer is "yes". Only the copyright holder can release a photo under an acceptable Creative Commons license, which is a legally binding agreement, which allows the photo to be used by anyone for any purpose without permission or payment. No one else can do that. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:45, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

By the way, this is not a minor "technical" matter. Proper adherence to copyright law is essential to the legal viability of Wikipedia. Please read our stringent policy on copyright violations. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:48, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

supporting languages used in Bangladesh

Hello. This morning when I was searching some medical content in Wikipedia, I saw a pop up window with a humble request to support languages used in Bangladesh. Being very keen, I started to go through the provided link. Upon entering the redirected page, I could find only steps to be taken to support languages used in India and no Bangladesh. My country has a very rich history of language movement that we all take pride of. Also the specific date of movement, 21st February is celebrated as the International mother language day. I will be more than happy if I can contribute little for benefit of my mothertongue. Please clear my doubts and help finding the appropriate page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nuoma Munir (talk • contribs) 05:56, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Nuoma Munir. Thank you for your willingness to donate! As far as I know, any donation you make would benefit the entire Wikimedia Foundation, which includes Wikipedias for all of the languages listed on this page. If you don't mind, could you provide the link that you clicked to donate? -- kewlgrapes (talk, contribs) 17:00, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I can not find the link any more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.85.196.50 (talk) 03:53, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Article with heavy vandalism, unsure to restore version

Hello. I came across the Seung Chan Kim article and noticed extremely heavy vandalism. I want to restore it to it's non vandalised state, but I'm worried that if I make the wrong restore version then I will get in trouble. So should I restore it? AllyGebies talk 04:35, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, AllyGebies. You will not get in trouble if you make a good faith effort to revert clearcut vandalism. Do your best. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:38, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

I have blocked the vandal. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:42, 19 April 2018 (UTC)