Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor/Archive 8

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Disable "This is not an article; this is a disambiguation page," box

Hi, Is there any way I can disable the "This is not an article; this is a disambiguation page," light brown box that comes up?, I find it more of a hinderance than of help, Many thanks, Kind Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 18:31, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

It looks like that pop-up is how VE displays {{Disambig editintro}}. Presumably, you could hack your personal .js file to hide it. There is some related discussion at MediaWiki talk:Common.js. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:18, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Infobox references/citations

I deleted 2 references from an infobox using Source editor {one was already in the article's References list, the other is now after I added text and the reference to the article which should have been added over a year ago}. Should I have been able to delete them using VE? Mcljlm (talk) 16:16, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Where can I find the percentage of edits to date that were made using VE?

Félix An (talk) 06:12, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

You might be able to get that from Wikipedia:Request a query, but I suggest that the question you're asking might not tell you what you really want to know. For example: since Wikipedia's creation, or just since the visual editor existed? Or during the last year, so you can find out about current usage patterns? And do you want to include bot edits? Twinkle and AWB? Or just "manual" edits by humans? WhatamIdoing (talk) 06:33, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Auto-save / Saving a draft

If I edit an article but accidentally close the tab before saving (or my browser crashes), is a draft auto-saved? Or is there a way to save a draft before publishing the changes? —danhash (talk) 20:47, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_Stuart

If possible, I'd like to switch the black and white image of William Curtis (on the page with many examples of GS's work) with a iPhone color image of the same picture sent to me by the owner as a replacement. Can someone help me? I can email the image and the permission. Thanks. devan03@Emory.edu

DEvans2 (talk) 15:38, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Please post your request at Wikipedia:Help desk. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:38, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

thanks. DEvans2 (talk) 21:48, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

A better way to handle limitation workarounds

I'd like to suggest we make it clearer when there are tools or procedural workarounds that can mitigate any of the items listed in section § Limitations, as well as tactics for avoiding any of the known limitations in the first place. For example: for the numeric ref names issue, we have script User:Nardog/RefRenamer to fix it after the fact. The first item in the list, "Not available in talk or discussion namespaces", has what appears to be a possible workaround (the Reply tool) but the way it is worded and styled as part of the same paragraph as the limitation, makes me a bit unclear as to whether this is being touted as a workaround or not.

I can see a couple of ways to do this:

• a completely separate section on workarounds and avoidance strategies; if there's any advantage here, it's probably that the number of bullets will be a lot smaller than in the limitations section.
• interpolated additions to each bullet that has any kind of workaround, maybe in the style of a definition list or a FAQ were you have a main bulleted entry, followed by a more indented, and possibly differently styled, response.

I think I prefer the latter, although it will make the Limitations section a little longer. For example, we might have:

• Not available in talk or discussion namespaces – On the English Wikipedia, VisualEditor is not enabled for any talk pages, on the Template or Wikipedia namespaces, and on several of the namespaces that are rarely edited. The "Edit" button for VisualEditor is not available on pages where VisualEditor cannot be used.
  • Workaround: The Reply tool has a visual mode based on VisualEditor, as well as a wikitext mode with a live preview.
• Slower – Loading longer pages into VisualEditor can be significantly slower than the source editor for some users.
• Data in merged cells is deleted – If rows or columns are moved across them.
  • Workaround: Unmerge the affected areas before moving, and merge them again afterwards.
• Numeric reference names – Currently, VE automatically adds numeric ref names with a colon prefix, i.e., ":0", ":1", ":2", and so on. There has long been interest in having VE support named references.
  • Repair: After the fact, numeric reference names may be converted to mnemonic names using user script RefRenamer.
• Wikilink changes – May unnecessarily turn a simple link into a piped link when a change to the link text involves redirects.
  • Workaround: You can do it in two steps; once you have a link and want to change something, the link text and link target are changed in separate ways. 1) Click the link and then "Edit" to change the link target; and: 2) Change the link text. Alternatively you can delink it, alter the link text, and link it again.

and so on. (Styling note': I would avoid bullet character on the indented lines, but couldn't figure out the markup for that above.) Also, we should probably add phab links inline, where available. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 03:28, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Added adapted version of PrimeHunter's workaround for piped links, as suggested at WP:VPT. Needs proofreading to see if I got your basic idea right, and if I adapted it properly from the specific 'Romans' case to the general case. Mathglot (talk) 22:43, 2 February 2024 (UTC)