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network logos

I just noticed the use of Television network logo's on List of Australian television ratings for 2006. This is not a Fair Use of the image under the current Fair Use policy of Wikipedia. The images should be removed from that page and substituted with the network name. --TheDJ (talkcontribsWikiProject Television) 20:42, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

This is correct. Fair use images are not allowed to be used for decorative purposes.--cj | talk 11:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Insight article does not need to be created, just expanded

A request for the article Insight (TV Series), is not required, as it can already be accessed here. – Permafrost 09:40, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

TEN idents

Between me and Eddie Blake, we had uploaded most of the Network TEN idents on List of Network TEN slogans. Someone has blanked out the section, is there a way to revert it? It's a lot of work to type the table up again. BTW, nice job on the WP stickeylabel. ~ Trisreed my talk my contribs 13:10, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Article collaboration and assessment

Partly because it's currently wrapping airing and that I have an interest in it, I've been heavily contributing to The Biggest Loser Australia (Season 2) and thought it could be collaborated on further while information about the show is still available and ripe, before interest wains and information is harder to gather. I've been doing a bit of work on it and would really like to try and get it to a GA or A status somehow, as there are none in Australian Television articles. I think the information there is pretty much all that can be said about the show, besides the sub article for complete list of episodes (currently at work in my sandbox) and bulking out some of the sections a little, wording it more concisely and adding some primary images. I was wondering how the article could be improved to achieve a higher assessment rating, or if it's already achieved that? As a side, I was wondering if the naming convention is correct, ie. maybe the article should actually be something more like: The Biggest Loser (Australian TV series) Season 2 or The Biggest Loser (Australian TV series: Season 2) or The Biggest Loser 2 (Australian TV series). Peter 04:02, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Pay-TV

Can we have a Pay-TV version of {{Australian free-to-air television networks}} made? - Mike Beckham 05:22, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Certantly, that was my original goal. I will work on one in the near future. Thanks. Stickeylabel 05:44, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
I have completed the Australian subscription television navigational box as can be seen at {{Subscription television channels in Australia}}. Thanks. Stickeylabel 10:55, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Category trawling

Greetings fellow tv watchers – just found comment at Category:Home and Away cast members where a vote for change from category to list earlier this year has not been followed up. Wondering if anyone was going to followup on that issue or not. No sweat either way – thought I'd bring it to your attention, cheers SatuSuro 00:35, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

News presenter infoboxes

I've been browsing and noticed a bit of incosistency between the various news presenter infoboxes ([1][2][3]). I'm about to create ones for the ABC and SBS in the same style as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:SevenNewsAnchors given that it's the only one using http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Navbox_generic – which appears to be the correct one.

Right now I'm working to fix this – I was just wondering if anybody had a particular opinion on it. timgraham 11:26, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Template:ABCNewsPresenters has been created: [4]. I'm currently adding it to each presenter's article.
Great work TimG, the infoboxes are very consistant, and I'd love to see an SBSNewsPresenters infobox. Stickeylabel 21:44, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
SBS's be done: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:SBSNewsPresenters. I've added what I know about past presenters to the ABC/SBS ones although I'm sure there are a lot that are missed out – if anyone knows any past presenters (particularly ABC) it'd be good if they could add them. timgraham 04:27, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

ive added info boxes a while ago for National Nine news presenters, and the today show. Template:NineNewsAnchors and Template:TodayPresenters

SBS News & Current Affairs

Given that all links relating to news and current affairs on SBS in general point to SBS World News Australia, I feel that there should probably be a page similar to ABC News and Current Affairs – given that the ABC and SBS are very simmilar, the structure of each section should probably be roughly similar. Does anyone else have thoughts on this? timgraham 11:55, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Episode coverage

The WikiProject Television episode coverage taskforce have recently been working on a review process for episode articles. There are a rash of articles about individual episodes which fail notability, and are unlikely to ever reach such requirements. Many contributors are unaware of the specific guidelines to assess notability in episode pages: Wikipedia:Television episodes. We have expanded these guidelines to make them more helpful and explanatory, and we invite you to read the guidelines, and make any comments on its talk page. After much discussion, we have created a proposed review process for dealing with problem articles. See: Wikipedia:Television article review process. We invite discussion of this process on its talk page. General comments about this whole process are welcome at the episode coverage taskforce talkpage. Thanks! Gwinva 10:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

News Service Layout

The discussion has been moved from the National Nine News talk page.

It was agreed on the WIN Television talk page that these headings were unneccessary and ugly – I'd like to question why they're included here? They don't add to that article and they prevent the proper structure from appearing in the table of contents and they are inconsistent with almost any other article on Wikipedia. There's also a number of web accessibility issues that arise from using tables for layout. timgraham 03:36, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree and I also propose an overhaul of news service article's that are covered by WikiProject Australian television. I believe the current layout is inconsistent with almost any other article on Wikipedia, and I believe that we should set a precedent for all other news service article's to follow. As this issue covers a range of articles for WikiProject Australian television, I have therefore moved discussion to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian television. Stickeylabel 04:25, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
I think the layout on the articles needs improvement, but so does their content – at the moment many of them are little more than an introductory paragraph and list of presenters – ideally something more like the article for World News Australia – some history and background and then details for each bulletin (ideally stuff about past names, presenters, signifagance, whatever). timgraham 06:10, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
I totally agree, alot of the articles are merely lists and serve little purpose. I think the first task should be to expand the articles, and to cite alot fo the information also. I have worked a bit on the navigation, however it will still need some more work. Stickeylabel 09:21, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Having recently rescued the Seven News article from being a glorified list of late, it appears that some have begun to add useless presenter details – I'd just like to point out that it's easier to follow when you have meaningful information rather than complicated bullet points.
Great work TimG, the article is far easier to read, and has much more substance. Also, it's great to see the bulk of lists integrated into actual paragraphs. I have added the article to my watch list, so I can monitor any vandalism. Stickeylabel 22:48, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

episode article review notice

The individual episode articles for 20 to 1 are now being reviewed according to episode notability guidelines. Please contribute to the discussion on Talk:20 to 1#Episode review. Thanks. – Ned Scott 04:37, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Australian television

May I please request that all members join the discussion at Talk:Australian television, and collaborate to expand the stub. The article is in need of immediate attention due to its high importance for WikiProject Australian television. Australian television should become an article of which summarises programming, broadcasting, news, presenters, and ratings, and which provides links to the main articles for each of these areas. Please continue discussion either below, or at Talk:Australian television, and please contribute to the article to raise its class status. Stickeylabel 08:35, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Australian television is a candidate to be the Australian Collaboration of the Fortnight. Please comment on the nomination.Stickeylabel 09:40, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Ten News articles

I'm a little confused as to why there are three articles for Ten News – the main one, Ten Early News and Ten Late News with Sports Tonight. None of the other Australian stations have individual articles for each bulletin, and Ten News isn't particularly distinctive or different, not enough to warrant a totally different structure of article.

I think the main one needs to be the focus moreso than seperate ones for each bulletin. I would do the whole propose-to-merge-and-discuss-it thing but I'm not sure how. What are others' thoughts?timgraham 04:58, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I totally agree timgraham, I have now merged Ten Early News and Ten Late News with Sports Tonight into Ten News. Each bulletin does not deserve a seperate article. Stickeylabel 06:32, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, it needs a bit of attention (it's lacking a bit content-wise). I'll try and add some more info over the next few days. timgraham 09:44, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Good work with the copy-editing of the Ten News article Tim :), I'll help try and expand a few sections as it currently seems to be stub-like. Stickeylabel 10:44, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
The article seems to have been reverted with certain sections. I will try and fix and expand certain sections soon. Stickeylabel 06:06, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

May I please request that all members of the WikiProject join the collaboration at Talk:Digital television in Australia, in order to expand the article, and raise it to a GA standard. Thanks. Stickeylabel 06:59, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Optus Aurora

I was about to start an article on it but noticed it had been deleted – why? I can see there is an article for RABS which to be honest confuses me since I can't really tell what it's actually about. It says that Optus Aurora is the platform although they appear to be the same.

I'm inclined to go with Optus Aurora though because of this description on Optus' website:

The Optus Aurora system provides transmission of free–to-air services for the national broadcasters, remote area commercial broadcasters, business television providers, radio broadcasters and audio narrowcasters. Reception of the services can be direct to home (DTH) or direct to business (DTB) via a satellite dish, set top box and Optus Aurora smartcard, or via retransmission facilities using terrestrial transmitters for broadcast to TV's.

The Optus Aurora system is designed to operate in an encrypted format, making use of smartcards, within the set top boxes, to decrypt the services applicable to the entitlements on the particular smartcard, held by the set top box. There are a few special instances where a small number of Aurora services are transmitted without encryption, allowing reception without a smartcard, but in general an official Optus Aurora smartcard is required for correct operation.

I think it would be correct to say that it's more a part of RABS, than the same thing.

Anyway, what are people's thoughts on creating thise article? I think it's pretty important since it's the only way for a lot of Australians to receive television.timgraham 05:23, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree Tim, in my opinion just create the article at Optus Aurora, and delete the RABS article, as in my opinion an Optus Aurora article would be more appropriate. I am not sure why it was initally deleted though. Stickeylabel 05:38, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Research links

Since there doesn't seem to be huge amounts of info I thought I'd start a list here of sites that might help with respect to researching and referencing stuff in Australian TV articles. The following sites might be of use:

There are a few others I've probably forgotten.

And another thing, how come all the articles for the various ABC regions (eg ABC Western have been merged with the respective capital city articles? There's a lot more to them than just the ABC TV stations – local radio for one, and there are quite a few of those. The ABC themselves tend to detail their history in terms of radio and television rather than just one or the other, so it would be good to dem-merge those articles. timgraham 02:18, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Categories

If you go down to "Categories" on the WikiProject Australian television page, you'll see that clicking on "Australian television series" reveals five categories. Is there any plausible reason why [[Category:Farscape|Farscape] should have its own sub-category? Although there may be more than one page on Farscape, it doesn't mean that it should be elevated to the same level as other sub-categories which are clearly of a different nature (e.g. Australian television series by genre), surely? Cyril Washbrook 08:46, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Current programming schedules?

I have noticed some pages contain listing of the current programming schedules. Should they really be included? According to Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_directory they shouldn't be. I'm not familiar with the Aus TV project so I bought it up here first rather than just barge in. Wongm (talk) 08:16, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

(delayed reaction) I agree with you. I have started a discussion about this at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Television schedules in network articles. Anyone with an opinion about this should go there and express their opinion. In lack of any dissenting opinions, I am going to remove the schedules from Australian TV network articles per WP:NOT a TV Guide. – Mark 02:27, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Centralized TV Episode Discussion

Over the past months, TV episodes have been redirected by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here [5]. Even if you have not, other opinions are needed because this issue is affecting all TV episodes in Wikipedia. --Maniwar (talk) 02:11, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1996 in Australian television

Project members might like to note the debate at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1996 in Australian television --Matilda talk 23:14, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Fair use images in Australian television articles

I have just performed a quite exhaustive (and exhausting) examination of a large number of Australian TV articles, to find fair use images which are being used in articles without fair use rationales for their use in those specific articles. I have created a list of all of them, which I will paste below. If anyone is interested in saving these images from being deleted/removed from use, please add detailed fair use rationales to the image pages, then strike through the image name below to indicate which ones have been done. – Mark 17:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Images which need fair use rationales, with the articles they need a rationale for:

ABC Shows

Channel Seven

Channel Nine

Channel Ten

SBS

Regionals and community TV

Pay TV

The Sunday article has a big problem with copyright infringement with the bulk of it being copied and pasted from Ninemsn Sunday – Our History. It is also written like an advertisement. It is at present a candidate for a speedy delete. --WikiCats (talk) 21:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

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For the Regional TV navigational boxes. – JSH-alive (talk)(cntrbtns)(mail me) 12:11, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Michael Pate is currently in the nominations for Wikipedia:Australian Collaboration of the Fortnight, so any support votes would greatly assist. For a actor who was internationally renowned for staring in over 300 television shows here in Australia and the U.S.A. his article could do with much improvement. Someone has even asked that his article be deleted stating: the actor is not important and irrelevent. It's time he was properly recognised for his contribution to television in Australia and overseas. Boylo (talk) 13:23, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Home and Away character article sourcing

The following is a copy of what I've posted on Talk:Home and Away:

Further up on this page in April I signalled that I had tagged a gazillion Home and Away character articles as being unreferenced, and that if reliable sources weren't given for them, there would be mass deletions in the near future. Well, I've just gone through the ones I tagged and haven't found more than a couple of random references given for them in the 5 months (or more) they have been tagged, so I have removed all unreferenced material. Any material which gets added to them in future without a reliable source given as a reference will get reverted by me. According to the Verifiability policy, "any material challenged... should be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation" and "the burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material".

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Underbelly Series

What you people think of creating an article about the underbelly series.

Sorta how film series have them like; spiderman, x-men, bond, harry potter. Judging that theres meant to be a third series by years end...... it would be a good thing to do yeah?

What you people think? IAmTheCoinMan (talk) 00:20, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

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Missing topics list?

I have a list on missing Australian tv shows based on AustralianTelevision.net if its any help to the project? 71.184.60.175 (talk) 19:50, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

User:Dank has kindly stopped the deletion of this article, and asked me whether the residual stub can be worked on to shore it up. Is anyone interested? Tony (talk) 07:49, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Program / Programme

No doubt this has been well and truly discussed somewhere in the past, but it did strike me as odd to see that all Australian TV programmes on wikipedia appear to be called (TV program). Was there consensus gained at some stage to use the American spelling even for Australian topics? It's hard to imagine this has been overlooked, but just wanted to check here.--Jeff79 (talk) 10:12, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

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Unreferenced BLPs

G'day TV fans, I'm not sure if you're aware of the issues surrounding unreferenced BLPs over the past 6 or so weeks, but we've been working through a list of over Australian 2000 unreferenced biographies of living people and we are down to under 500 – but almost 200 of them are actors – heaps from the Aussie soaps. Can someone from this project please assist in providing sources for these articles, or else there is a risk that they will be deleted. Have a look here for the list. We've had people working hard on politician, sportsmen and musicians but actors have been left behind a bit. Thanks The-Pope (talk) 11:56, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Virginia Hey needs attention

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Updates to TV#MOS

I'm not sure how many people monitor WP:MOSTV or even WP:TV (the basic WikiProject for all of us), but we've been trying to get some feedback on additions to the TV Manual of Style. It largely has to do with the inclusion of "Overview" tables at the start of the page, the order in which season lists are presented (currently, there is no concrete order), and what is considered too much info for DVDs (i.e. should we be placing every detail about the box set in the article, from each interview to the aspect ratio, or should be keep it more generalized). Please see discussion at WT:MOSTV#Updates to the MOS. Thank you.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 22:04, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

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Seasons episode list

Mhiji (talk · contribs) has moved a large number of season episode lists. Since there has been no consensus building discussions about the naming of these episode lists, I have started a discussion at WT:NC-TV. Thank you. —Farix (t | c) 03:53, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Call-signs

Greetings from the Great White North, everyone! I'm considering giving the radio and television stations an overhaul to bring them more in line with those of Canada and the United States (specifically, call-signs, transmitter power, frequency information... examples would be WDIV-TV and CFPL-FM). I thought I'd ask around to see what the consensus would be, before just going in and getting to work by myself. RingtailedFoxTalkContribs 04:41, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Merger of this project into WikiProject Television as a task force

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  • Comment isn't this a subproject of WP:Australia? 70.24.248.23 (talk) 08:07, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Actually no problem with having it as a task force of both parent projects (Aus and TV) at the same time – we have a few projects like that. Orderinchaos 22:49, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

A few formatting issues

Hi fellow editors, I'm going through a few of your articles. Please note:

  • Usually avoid repeat links
  • Usually avoid linking common country-names, including Australia and New Zealand, in the infobox too.
  • Avoid linking English (language), in the infobox too.
  • Italicise the names of programs.

Thanks Tony (talk) 11:49, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

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Articles nominated for deletion

I have nominated 2006 Australian network television schedule and 2007 Australian network television schedule for deletion. You are invited to participate in the the deletion discussion. DH85868993 (talk) 01:35, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Ratings information pages to be removed due to copyright violation 04.09.2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spencer Anne (talkcontribs) 07:03, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

The article, Television ratings in Australia, is in need of urgent attention. There is alot of information that could be ellaborated in this article, however at current it is very stub-like. I have added a framework for the article, however it is still minimal and other sections could be added. I have created a discussion section at Talk:Television ratings in Australia. Stickeylabel 13:17, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Deborah Mailman article desperately needs updating

Deborah Mailman is a very important Aboriginal Australian actress for both TV and Film. Her article needs updating ASAP as there are few sources and little information on her. There is plenty of information about her on the internet. It would be great if we could add some more content to it. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scoobysit (talkcontribs) 06:15, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Series overview tables

Please come to Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Television#Series overview tables and the like to discuss the implementation of these tables in television articles, from main articles to List of Episode pages.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 19:23, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Please ensure that articles on TV shows show SD or HD correctly in the infobox.

I've noticed countless errors in articles relating to Australian TV shows. Almost all of them list two formats: 576i and 1080i (HD). In most cases, this is incorrect. The resolutions listed in the infoboxes refer to *broadcast* resolutions, so while most Australian TV shows may be produced in HD, they are almost all only broadcast in SD. This is because 7, 9, and 10 are all SD-only channels, and have been for several years. HD content is only shown on GEM, 7Mate, and One HD. As such, probably 90% of Australian TV shows are only broadcast in SD. Please ensure that when creating new articles, the correct format is listed. Also, If a show is SD only, then it will only be in stereo, and not Dolby Digital.MisterZed (talk) 13:19, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Another important note: if a show was broadcast in HD in Australia, then listing *only* Dolby Digital is incorrect. Unlike the USA, where Dolby Digital is the only sound format used with digital TV (regardless of SD/HD), in Australia, Dolby Digital is only used in HD broadcasts. SD broadcasts use a different format, stereo only. So both stereo and Dolby Digital must be listed.MisterZed (talk) 06:00, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Logo History on SBS One article

So there's been a movement to try and remove the gallery of logos from the SBS One article even though the article clearly talks about the progression of the logo and how it has changed over time. Could others from this project please weigh in on the talk page or the user's talk page? Adammw 00:31, 9 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adammw (talkcontribs)

You are invited to participate in Wiki Loves Pride 2014, a campaign to create and improve LGBT-related content at Wikipedia and its sister projects. The campaign will take place throughout the month of June, culminating with a multinational edit-a-thon on June 21. Meetups are being held in some cities, or you can participate remotely. All constructive edits are welcome in order to contribute to Wikipedia's mission of providing quality, accurate information. Articles related to LGBT television programming may be of particular interest. You can also upload LGBT-related images by participating in Wikimedia Commons' LGBT-related photo challenge. You are encouraged to share the results of your work here. Happy editing! --Another Believer (Talk) 19:02, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet for Wikiproject Australian Television at Wikimania 2014

Hi all,

My name is Adi Khajuria and I am helping out with Wikimania 2014 in London.

One of our initiatives is to create leaflets to increase the discoverability of various wikimedia projects, and showcase the breadth of activity within wikimedia. Any kind of project can have a physical paper leaflet designed - for free - as a tool to help recruit new contributors. These leaflets will be printed at Wikimania 2014, and the designs can be re-used in the future at other events and locations.

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For those interested, I am reviewing this article's GA status as I do not believe it meets the criteria. CR4ZE (tc) 12:16, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Foxtel

Hello, I'm trying to find a list of Foxtel-only channels. Can you add that to that article or "Subscription television in Australia"? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 179.26.167.252 (talk) 23:29, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

  • This is actually an interesting idea. I recently updated the Fetch TV article, and noted those channels that were exclusively avilable on Fetch and NOT on Foxtel. I don't know if such a list would be considered strong enough to exist on it's own, but it could be included within another article, perhaps Foxtel or Television in Australia or the channels template? Whats new? (talk) 10:43, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live!

Hello everyone!

You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!

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WikiConfererence Australia 2015 - Save the date 3-5 October 2015

Our first Australian conference for Wikipedians/Wikimedians will be held 3-5 October 2015. Organised by Wikimedia Australia, there will be a 2-day conference (Saturday 3 October and Sunday 4 October) with an optional 3rd day (Monday 5 October) for specialist topics (unconference discussions, training sessions, etc). The venue is the State Library of Queensland in Brisbane. So put those dates in your diary! Note: Monday is a public holiday is some states but not others. Read about it here: WikiConference Australia 2015

As part of that page, there are now sections for you to:

  • indicate your interest in possibly attending the conference (this is not a binding commitment, of course)
  • add suggestions for topics to include in the conference: what you would like to hear/discuss (again, there is no commit to you presenting/organising that topic, although it’s great if you are willing to do so), or indicate your enthusiasm for any existing topic on the list by adding a note of support underneath it

It would really help our planning if you could let us know about possible attendance and the kind of topics that would make you want to come. If you don’t want to express your views on-wiki, please email me at kerry.raymond@wikimedia.org.au or committee@wikimedia.org.au

We are hoping to have travel subsidies available to assist active Australasian Wikipedians to attend the conference, although we are not currently in a position to provide details, but be assured we are doing everything we can to make it possible for active Australian Wikipedians to come to the conference. Kerry (talk) 00:17, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Folks, just letting you know we will not be proceeding with Wikiconference Australia 2015 originally proposed for 3-5 October 2015. Thanks to those of you who expressed your support. You are free to attend the football finals instead :-) Kerry (talk) 07:50, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board#WIN and SC Ten. JSH-alive/talk/cont/mail 14:25, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

The above article on an Australian actor has been tagged for notability since 2008; it does not cite any sources. I wonder if a member of the project could have a look and advise whether it's a notable actor? Otherwise, I plan to propose it for deletion. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:21, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Can someone update this article and correct the table with the contestants? --Gce (talk) 00:12, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

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Ditch Davey

Would someone from WP:AUTV mind taking a look at Ditch Davey and assessing it? Two IPs (most likely the same person) have recently removed some of the content possibly related to Davey's real name, etc., but I reverted them since the edits basically left the article without a lead sentence. It's quite possible that "Kristian Lind " is not his real name (IMDb lists his birth name as Kristian Davey) and all of the sources found online seem to refer to him as Ditch Davey; so, perhaps all of the other name stuff should be removed unless it can be properly sourced. FWIW, the "Kristian Davey" stuff was added by another IP but no supporting sources were provided. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:28, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

  • Only reliable info I can find re his name is from a 2002 Herald Sun article:

ANYONE expecting a Tinseltown-style story about how Ditch Davey got his unlikely name is bound to be disappointed.

The 26-year-old Blue Heelers star blames an older sister for the moniker change.

"When I was born, my sister, who was two, was tongue-tied at the time and couldn't say Kristian. She used to say Ditchin."

The name stuck, and Davey added Ditch to his name by deed poll when he turned 18.

— Cheryl Critchley, "Wrong side of the law." Herald Sun (22 January 2002) p. 104.
Couldn't find anything linking him to the surname Lind. Seeing as it appears he has legally changed his name, it'd probably be best to begin the lede with 'Ditch Davey (born Kristian Davey) or (born Kristian)'. —Kb.au (talk) 14:35, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for checking on this Kb.au. Removing any mention of the birthname might be the best thing to do. The IPs were also changing his wife's name from Dunn to Davey, but reliable sources continue to refer to her using her maiden name after the two eere married, so not sure if that should be changed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:47, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Updating the Behind the News article

Hello, I work at Behind the News and the show' 50th anniversary is next year. As part of this process we've done some original research (talking to past producers) and have a wealth of information we can provide. How do I go about updating the page in a legitimate way? My thinking was to pair up with a wikipedian who is able to look over a Google Doc we will write? Daniel Mee 04:15, 12 December 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielmee (talkcontribs)

Hi Danielmee. I'm not really a member of this WikiProject, but I'll just leave a few general comments. I am going to write this as if you're a total newbie, even though you're probably not. So, you may know most of this already.
First of all, you will have a conflict of interest with respect to the subject matter and also may even be considered a paid editor. Neither COI editing or paid editing is expressly forbidden on Wikipedia, but they are highly discouraged because they can lead to other more serious issues. So, please read Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide for some general information about what kinds of edits the Wikipedia community feels are acceptable for COI/paid editors to make. If it turns out that you are being paid or compensated for your work, then you should make sure you comply with WP:COIDISCLOSEPAY because you will be expected to do certain things to comply with Wikipedia's Terms of Service. In general, COI/paid editors are encourage to propose changes that they would like to seen made to articles on article talk pages so that they can be reviewed by others. In some cases, such as listed in WP:COIADVICE, it might be acceptable to directly edit the relevant article itself, but in the majority of cases it's better to use the article talk page. Nobody can force you to do so, but editing on Wikipedia is typically done by consensus and any changes you make to the COI article can simply be undone if someone else find's them controversial. So, it's better to establish a consensus first per WP:CAUTIOUS.
The next thing you need to be aware of is Wikipedia:Ownership of content because nobody techinically owns a Wikipedia article (unless you count Wikipedia) per se. This once again means that article content is expected to be determined for the most part through consensus and is to be in accordance with relevant policies and guidelines. Disagreements over content are supposed to be resolved according to Wikipedia:Dispute resolution so the subject of articles do not have any final editorial control over what goes into and article or what is removed.
Finally, the last thing you need to be aware of is Wikipedia:No original research. Article content is really only supposed to reflect what can be verified through citations to reliable sources. They sources are generally preferred to be independent and secondary, and are required to be published. Basically, Wikipedia is not too interested in what the subject of an article has to say about itself, but rather is interested in what others might be saying about it. A "reliable source" has a specific meaning with respect to Wikipedia, so even though you might considered these past producers to be quite reliable individuals, they probably don't qualify as a reliable source for Wikipedia purposes. Also, not everything which may be true and even verifiable by a citing a reliable sources needs to be mentioned in an article; so, sometimes a bit of editorial discretion might be needed to focus only the really encyclopedically relevant points.
If you have any more questions about this or editing in general, you can also try the Wikipedia Teahouse since experienced editors tend to hang out there trying to help others. Nore specific questions about COI/Paid editing can be asked at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:47, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks heaps @Marchjuly: for your help. @Cyphoidbomb: just recently clarified your first point to me over on my talk page which was great; point two I did know and I didn't know about point three. This is going to be hard as no one seems to be talking about BTN except the ABC despite being the third longest running TV show in Oz! I have sent a message to NLA though to see if they can help us... not sure if there are any other ways to get "published"...? Thanks heaps for your help! Daniel Mee 15:17, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
That's not to say a well researched piece of published material by the ABC on the history of BTN wouldn't qualify as a reliable source. It likely would to some degree or another depending on the depth of the research and analysis and the context of the publication (see WP:PRIMARY). I think the bigger point in relation to your original question is that research musn't be original – ie. it needs to be published first. Original research by the ABC/BTN which is subsequently published would no longer be original research for WP:NOR purposes because there would be a source for that info. Whether the source is reliable or not is, however, another question. Kb.au (talk) 16:07, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject

The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

Portals are being redesigned.

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Background

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Templates nominated for deletion

FYI, Template:Australian drama TV series, Template:Australian comedy TV series and Template:Australian reality TV shows have been nominated for deletion. Interested editors are welcome to contribute to the deletion discussion. DH85868993 (talk) 21:56, 12 June 2018 (UTC)