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La Castanyada

Hello! I'm not sure if this project is still active, but I would be really grateful if someone could check Castanyada for me. I just translated it from the article on the Catalan Wikipedia, but my Catalan is nowhere near perfect. Thanks! —Celestianpower háblame

Review: municipalities of the Land of Valencia

Reviewing official names and prompting requested moves

Municipalities:

List of municipalities in Castellón
List of municipalities in Valencia
List of municipalities in Alicante

Suggestions:

  • Review official names, as politics and laws change.
  • Defined names with either a Valencian or Castilian name stay unchanged, e.g. Dénia, Gandia (Valencian) or Orihuela, Villalonga (Castilian)
  • Use dual official names (separated by a forward slash) for localities that haven't been adapted into English, same as the Basque Country, Navarre, or the Swiss city of Biel/Bienne; e.g. Benitachell/El Poble Nou de Benitatxell.

Firsts attempts:

La Nucia (see talk:La Nucía)
Peníscola/Peñíscola (see talk:Peñíscola)
San Vicente del Raspeig/Sant Vicent del Raspeig (see talk:San Vicente del Raspeig).
Benicàssim (see talk:Benicasim)
Les Alqueries (see talk:Alquerías del Niño Perdido)

Other moves I made (without involving moves requests):

Facheca → Fageca (only official form, as Benigembla)
Gallinera → La Vall de Gallinera
Vall de Alcalá → La Vall d'Alcalà
Montroy → Montroi
Sant Joan de l'Ènova (former name) → Sant Joanet

I think we should make a list here with changes, and discuss it, rather than doing it article by article. It seems there are many mistakes, especially in the Valencia and Castellon provinces. Jɑυмe (xarrades) 08:35, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

List

Articles that should be moved to original names

Art of Catalonia

(Note: I have been redirected here from Wikipedia:WikiProject Arts and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Visual arts)

I have recently endeavored to translate this article over to the English Wikipedia. Due to me not being the most experienced person in the Catalonian language, some help from people knowledgeable in Catalonian artwork, or who know the Catalonian language very well would really help. Also i wanted to know if the article crossed over with any articles in this WikiProject. I know there is no explicit article on such a subject, but i wanted to know how much it crossed over with such pages as Spanish art. The article now rests at User:Coin945/Art of Catalonia. Thanks.--Coin945 (talk) 08:21, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Have you tried the Catalonian project on en:wikipedia for language help, or the Catalan wikipedia? You are unluikely to find Catalan speakers here. Spanish art is very poor indeed; I wouldn't worry about overlap. It stops at the Gothic - is there more? Some references in English also would be nice. Meanwhile the English is often pretty rough - is it based on a machine translation? Johnbod (talk) 10:47, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
I'm taking it one step at a time, translating over the article bit by bit, and adding in references/links as i go. That's why the article is only up to Gothic Art. Lately I've focused more on these two aspects rather than the actual translation... which is why its very rough at the moment.--Coin945 (talk) 09:09, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Antoni Gaudí GA review

The article Antoni Gaudí is currently under Good Article review. There are just a few more cleanup details left so it can pass. Any help would be appreciated. Elizium23 (talk) 07:04, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Barcelona#A few changes

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Barcelona#A few changes. Elizium23 (talk) 00:32, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Scope of this project

Does this project cover articles such as the train network of Catalonia? Liam987 11:37, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

AFD's of Catalonia articles and suggestion

There are about 12 Catalonia articles up for deletion (see today's AFD's). Most are on obscure political historical topics, have no editors, and no sources, but good content. One suggestion would be to create a "Political History of Catalonia" article and put all of those orphans into it and bring them out of obscurity so that they can get a bit of attention. Or else give the individual article some attention. Sincerely,North8000 (talk) 13:12, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

portaits of catalan writers

Hi, in the wikiArS project with Llotja school of art, in witch I'm involved, the illustration student Albert Pons had produced free licence portaits of 20th-century catalan writers. If someone wants to use them in any article you can found it here or here. --Dvdgmz (talk) 11:18, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Aljub de la Font Santa

Could somebody check Aljub de la Font Santa and translate (on Commons) the plaque depicted there, please? It might be worth translating the article to the Catalan Wikipedia, also. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:19, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

  • Hi Andy, I'm not sure where you want the translation so I'm writing it here: The restoration of this well, started in 2007 and completed in 2009, was unveiled being Mayor of Campos Mr. Guillem Ginard Sala and President of the Mancomunitat Migjorn Mallorca Mr. Joan Juan Pons. 8 May 2009.--Sergi Bio (talk) 00:30, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. I originally wanted it on the image's page on commons, but I think I will add it to the article also. Perhaps you could translate the article onto ca.Wikipedia? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:27, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Miquel Capllonch Rotger

I translated Miquel Capllonch Rotger from the Catalan Wikipedia, using Google Translate; can somebody check it, please? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:20, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Spanish MOS Needed?

This is copied from what was pasted on WP:SPAIN and a couple of other Talk pages

I noted three months back to a couple of IPA pronunciation expert editors that Category:Wikipedia_Manual_of_Style_(regional) has:

but not:

Is there really nothing at all that could benefit by giving guidance? For instance:
  1. Like when to use a Catalan place name, when to use a Spanish one?
  2. Like whether to use accents on capitals, like Oscar or Óscar?
  3. IPA pronunciation?
  4. Spelling between Iberian and American varieties of Spanish?
  5. How to treat Quechua (Runa Simi) and other articles?
  6. and so on?

In ictu oculi (talk) 07:52, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

@In ictu oculi: this may be 6 years late but I see you are still editing, so I'd like you to know that I just finished a MoS for this WikiProject. It's geared more towards the political side of this, but I can see that we also need to clarify pronuncation and writing. If you want to help by adding that, it would be appreciated. ping me when responding, gràcies! TheKaloo talk 13:19, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Els Montesinos

I saw that Els Montesinos is missing. The article in others Wikipedias: ca:Els Montesinos, es:Los Montesinos--Vivaelcelta {discussion  · contributions} 20:53, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Seny

This article could use more information. Bearian (talk) 16:50, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Spanish/Catalan

Please see contributions of editor Gavanzo, who is out to remove reference to Catalan nationality in biographies of prominent Catalan people. Elizium23 (talk) 07:31, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

New article Cant de la Senyera

An IP mentioned our surprising lack of Cant de la Senyera at en.wiki, so I translated the es.wiki version (which is not great, nor is the ca.wiki) and then fleshed it out with more citations, etc. If anyone is good in Catalan or Spanish and wants to take some of my footnotes and content back to those articles (which really need expanding) feel free. MatthewVanitas (talk) 16:29, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Antoni Gaudí#Catalan

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Antoni Gaudí#Catalan. Elizium23 (talk) 21:06, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

1000C

Maybe a good idea to reactivate the project would be translate ca:Viquiprojecte:Els 1000 Articles sobre la cultura catalana que tota viquipèdia hauria de tenir and use it as an "official" list of articles to take priority. Paucabot (talk) 06:18, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Alerts bot not activated

Hi, I just came to see how Talk:Flag of Minorca → Flag of Menorca was showing on the Alerts page and cannot find the Alerts page: Wikipedia:WikiProject Catalan-speaking countries/Article alerts. Is the bot not activated for this project? Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:56, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Redlink answers question. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:56, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Request for experts to mediate

Hi, I have been disputing with User:Walter Görlitz on whether the full name of Pep Guardiola, Josep Guardiola i Sala, is a Spanish or Catalan name. I said to him that due to the "i" connective (Catalan for "and", and mentioned in law), it is a Catalan name, which he has referred to as nonsense. Can an expert, with an opinion on any side of the argument, come to Talk:Pep Guardiola thank you The Almightey Drill (talk) 21:55, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Please see the article's talk page before making any changes. Thank you. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:40, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

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Castells

Hello,

I am translating/adapting articles from cawiki on the castellers field. So far I have created:

Please help me improve these articles and create new ones on the subject. The templates and the pages for each tower, may help people maintain the pages for each group, making it easier to mimic articles already in cawiki.

Thanks! Salut i castells! --JordiGran (talk) 10:28, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

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Squares in Barcelona - articles missing

Hi, loads of squares in Barcelona still calling for their article creation! It's one of the most important cities in Europe and Spain and deserves some more attention in this regard imho. Feel free to start with some squares you like :)


Ahoi, Horst-schlaemma (talk) 06:00, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

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Help requested with old Catalan

I have a passage to translate for an article that is in late medieval Catalan and I'm having some trouble with it in parts. It's the quotation from Pere Albert's Commemorations [ca], quoted here: ca:Catalunya Vella:

Catalan quote from Pere Albert's "Commemorations"

Commemoració 35. E si es pagès usas diversament en Cathalunya. Cor en alcuna part de Cathalunya qui ha nom Cathalunya veyla, axí com tot lo bisbat de Gerona e quax la meytat del bisbat de Barcelona, que és part lo flom de el Lobregat vers orient e la mayor part del bisbat de Vic, homes solius qui no són cavalers són si estrets a lurs senyors que lurs fils són homes de lurs senyors, e que no poden fer matrimonis ni dels mases partir. [..] En altra part de Cathalunya que és per tot lo dit flom de Lobregat ves ponent que tots temps sol ésser apel·lada dels temps de senyor Ramon Berenguer comte de Barcelona ençà nova Cathalunya.

I'm an English native speaker, my problem is in understanding the original, not in finding the right English words to represent it. So I need help understanding some sticky points, enumerated below. Feel free to respond in Catalan, Spanish, or French, if it's easier for you. A translation of the passage into modern es/fr/ca would be ideal.

My main points of difficulty, are these:

  1. The whole first sentence, I find mysterious: "And if you're a peasant.." then, what happens? You "use" differently? Wtf? And why doesn't es have an accent, it's not the reflexive particle (ca:es, es:se, fr:on) here.
  2. quax : I assume this is just an early version of quasi (es:casi)
  3. que és part lo flom de el Lobregat vers orient - It seems to be saying the Llobregat River is part of something (the diocese?), or else maybe that the river splits ('parts') the Barcelona diocese in two? But then why 'vers orient'? Is it because it cuts off the section to the east of the river from--everything else, the rest of the comarca, I guess?
  4. cavaler I know this is old Catalan for cavaller, so, caballero, chevalier; "gentlemen" doesn't really capture this, and "horseman" might be better here. It's the guy in service to the castlà defending the castle; maybe just "knight" here?
  5. si estrets - so close to? (in the partisan loyalty sense, not geographically)
  6. que és per tot lo dit flom... - that is nearby said Llobregat River (dicho rio de Ll.)
  7. ves ponent que - a mystery to me; some copies of this online (e.g. here) have a comma after "ponent"; with the comma, it seems like a pat phrase; could it mean "downstream"?

Anyway, here's what I've got so far: Commemoration 35. And if you're a peasant?? you use?? differently in Catalonia. Because in one part of Catalonia which is called Catalunya Vella, just like the whole diocese of Gerona and almost half the diocese of Barcelona, which is divided by the Llobregat River to the east [east of what??] and most of the diocese of Vic, the homo solidus [a] who are not knights and who are so close to their lords that their sons are men of their lords, who can neither marry nor leave their farmstead. [..] In another part of Catalonia that is nearby west of said Llobregat River [dit flom], you see that ever since the time of Sir Ramon Berenguer, Count of Barcelona, that area has usually been called Nova Catalunya.

Any help is appreciated. Mathglot (talk) 02:23, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Notes and References     for 'Help requested with Old Catalan'

Notes

  1. ^ ca:home soliu[1] = lat. "homo solidus"; a man who owed his fealty strictly to his lord, and could not transfer it to anyone else.[2]

References

  1. ^ Enciclopèdia Catalana, S.A. (2000). "home soliu" [homo solidus]. Gran Enciclopèdia Catalana (in Catalan). Barcelona: Enciclopedia Catalana S.A. OCLC 225886002. Retrieved 2017-07-05. Del segle XII al XV, a la Catalunya Vella, l'home propi o de remença que estava sota la dependència exclusiva d'un sol senyor i no podia prendre terres d'altres en emfiteusi.
  2. ^ North, William L. (17 May 2012). The Haskins Society Journal 22: 2010. Studies in Medieval History. Vol. 22. Boydell Press. p. 204. ISBN 978-1-84383-687-2. OCLC 967387487. Retrieved 2017-07-05. A knight might owe fealty to a number of lords, but could only have one lord for whom he was homo solidus (home soliu). The homo solidus was subject to his lord's jurisdiction and bound by a personal relationship; the homo non solidus simply had an agreement with the lord over a fief.
Oh, ves ponent must be a ponent de so "to the west of", right? So it must be : "In another part of Catalunya west of said Llobregat River, that area has usually been called Nova Catalunya ever since the time of Sir Ramon Berenguer, Count of Barcelona." At least, I think so. Wonder why they said "ves" ponent back then, and not "sol ponent" or something. Mathglot (talk) 02:35, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

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Catalan election, 2017

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