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Help on an AFD regarding a Samurai
[edit]Chōsokabe Chikatada has been nominated for deletion, but there are some questions about sourcing in the delete discussion regarding Japanese-language sources. Any Japanese-speakers want to give some input? FOARP (talk) 14:58, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
"Japanese idol" article in danger
[edit]Please take a look at this discussion:
Some people want to rename the "Japanese idol" article to "Idols in Japan" or "Pop idols in Japan"! It looks like they believe that "Japanese idol" is simply a term for any Japanese celebrity and that a Korean pop idol moving to Japan would automatically become a "Japanese idol".
(And only to think that the article "Korean idol" was created in 2011 by copy-pasting the lead section of the "Japanese idol" article. Just look at he first verison. And now that new article is creating problems for the article about the distinctly Japanese phenomenon that was roughly copied by Korean entertainment companies. Or maybe, they just used the word that was made popular in Asia by Japanese. Cause Korean idols are completely different.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 02:43, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
- Moscow Connection, although I had already closed this discussion before noticing this post, I think I should note that the tone here is not at all that of a neutral notification, and thus does not appear to follow WP:CANVASS. Please keep this in mind in the future. Dekimasuよ! 19:14, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
2019 list pages for music and movies
[edit]I've created the following pages that can be moved to mainspace around the end of December:
- User:Nihonjoe/2019 in Japanese music
- User:Nihonjoe/List of Hot 100 number-one singles of 2019 (Japan)
- User:Nihonjoe/List of Oricon number-one albums of 2019
- User:Nihonjoe/List of Oricon number-one singles of 2019
- User:Nihonjoe/List of 2019 box office number-one films in Japan
Feel free to list others below and I'll make them so we just have to move them at the end of the month. Pinging @Sonio194, Ss112, TheDeviantPro, Cattus, and Sid95Q: as they have been working on the 2018 pages. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:10, 17 December 2018 (UTC) Listing a few more action items:
- Template:Music of Japan will need to be updated.
- Template:Number-one singles in Japan will need to be updated
- Category:2019 in Japanese music will need to be created
- Category:2019 record charts will need to be created
- Category:Lists of 2019 box office number-one films will need to be created
···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:22, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, working on these:
- User:Nihonjoe/2019 in Japanese music → 2019 in Japanese music
Done
- User:Nihonjoe/List of Hot 100 number-one singles of 2019 (Japan) → List of Hot 100 number-one singles of 2019 (Japan)
Done
- User:Nihonjoe/List of Oricon number-one albums of 2019 → List of Oricon number-one albums of 2019
Done
- User:Nihonjoe/List of Oricon number-one singles of 2019 → List of Oricon number-one singles of 2019
Done
- User:Nihonjoe/List of 2019 box office number-one films in Japan → List of 2019 box office number-one films in Japan
Done
- Update Template:Music of Japan.
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- Update Template:Number-one singles in Japan.
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- Create Category:2019 in Japanese music.
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- Create Category:2019 record charts.
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- Create Category:Lists of 2019 box office number-one films.
Done
- User:Nihonjoe/2019 in Japanese music → 2019 in Japanese music
···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:16, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- Okay, these have all been created and updated. Pinging @Sonio194, Ss112, TheDeviantPro, Cattus, and Sid95Q: as they have been working on the 2018 pages. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:21, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
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Making a common page notice for WikiProject Japan articles linking to project guidelines?
[edit]As per Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Display_a_link_to_WikiProject/topic_specific_guidelines_when_editing_an_article? I suggested that WikiProjects could make pagenotices covering all articles relevant to their projects.
IMO a good way to notify new users of manual of style/project guidelines is to use a common pagenotice. Please take a look and consider what kind of pagenotice you would like. Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 05:53, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
Question
[edit]There's been some confusion at Folklore (TV series) about whether or not the Takumi Saitoh who directed an episode of that series is the same person as Takumi Saito the actor. Since in all likelihood both the series and the actor would have a lot more sourceability in Japanese-language sources than they do in English ones, but as a non-speaker of Japanese I had to start the article based strictly on what I could find in English sources around its preview screenings at North American film festivals, could somebody here look into this and determine whether the director's name should link to the actor's article or not? Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 17:52, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, it is the same person. Dekimasuよ! 18:00, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
- Here is an example of a cite using the spelling "Takumi Saito" (though it doesn't say he's the actor there). "Saito", "Saitoh", and "Saitō" are all ways to romanize the same surname. Dekimasuよ! 18:05, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 20:52, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
Gackt RIAJ certification
[edit]Hi! The article of Gackt claims that some of his albums were certified gold by RIAJ, I marked them with citation needed as I manually browsed through the RIAJ database month by month (yes, seriously), and could not find them. I put references to those I did find. Maybe the database is not 100% correct and previously existing older pages might show this, but this is how far my Japanese reading ability with Google Translate takes me. I'd appreciate if a Japanese speaker could check upon these albums and their RIAJ certification. The records in question are:
Thanks a lot. Teemeah 편지 (letter) 19:22, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, you are correct–they are not listed. Now, until June 2003 RIAJ used 200K units as the standard for gold certification and after June 2003 they switched to 100K, but I am not aware of any move to retroactively award gold status to things that didn't qualify under the old standard. Of course, based on the cited Oricon number, "Another World" should qualify either way (I couldn't immediately get the cited numbers for the albums off of Oricon's site, but they also look reasonable). It looks like the RIAJ site doesn't list things that hit the gold level if they are more than a year old, only things that reach a million-sales milestone. Whether or not gold status is awarded and unlisted, who knows (it also says the company putting the CD out has to apply for the status). But there is nothing on RIAJ that indicates gold status for these. Dekimasuよ! 20:20, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Dekimasu: thanks a lot! I will remove the sentences from the articles with this comment and in case someone manages to find any references, it can still be reinstated. I also tried searching archive.org with the Japanese word for "gold" and the album titles, but no luck there, either. Teemeah 편지 (letter) 20:22, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
- I can't find any sources for those releases in the scans of the hard copy documents, however I do have sources for Vanilla ([1]) and Mars ([2]) --Prosperosity (talk) 08:16, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Prosperosity:, thank you, those have been previously sourced, they are in the normal RIAJ database, too. The issue is with those three albums above. Cheers, Teemeah 편지 (letter) 10:37, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- You could keep checking through the hard-copy archives (http://web.archive.org/web/20131102225853/http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/1999/199910.pdf - just change the date in the link), but as far as I can tell, those releases were never certified. --Prosperosity (talk) 06:53, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Prosperosity:, thank you, those have been previously sourced, they are in the normal RIAJ database, too. The issue is with those three albums above. Cheers, Teemeah 편지 (letter) 10:37, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
References
- ^ "GOLD ALBUM 他認定作品 1999年8月度" [Gold Albums, and other certified works. August 1999 Edition] (PDF). The Record (Bulletin) (in Japanese). 479. Chūō, Tokyo: Recording Industry Association of Japan: 9. October 10, 1999. Archived from the original (PDF) on November 2, 2013. Retrieved January 18, 2014.
- ^ "GOLD ALBUM 他認定作品 2000年4月度" [Gold Albums, and other certified works. April 2000 Edition] (PDF). The Record (Bulletin) (in Japanese). 487. Chūō, Tokyo: Recording Industry Association of Japan: 8. June 10, 2000. Archived from the original (PDF) on September 22, 2013. Retrieved January 22, 2014.
Request translation from Japanese to English
[edit]Please, someone can help me with these translations, because I'm too busy: 烏丸家 (Karasumaru family), 亀井重清 (Shigekiyo Kamei), 片岡常春 (Tsuneharu Kataoka), 伊勢義盛 (Yoshimori Ise), 駿河次郎 (Jirō Suruga), 富樫泰家 (Yasuie Togashi), 大社駅 (Taisha Station). Thank you. --87.14.25.78 15:11, 27 January 2019 (UTC)