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Coordinators for the Christianity projects

I have recently started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Christianity#Coordinators? regarding the possibility of the various Christianity projects somewhat integrating, in the style of the Military history project, for the purposes of providing better coordination of project activities. Any parties interested in the idea, or perhaps willing to offer their services as one of the potential coordinators, is more than welcome to make any comments there. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 20:59, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

List of Meeting Houses

Hi -- I see your WikiProject has a goal of creating articles on Meeting Houses, and has a subpage that is beginning to track just 4 such articles-in-progress. I am involved in WP:NRHP, which focusses on sites that are listed on the U.S. National Register of Historic Places. I see that there are easily 30 or 100 or more historic Meeting Houses that are NRHP-listed by quick searches on "Friends" and "Quaker". A list article of those could be created, and each one of them individually is notable for an article to be created. There are tools to help with the article creation, for example an NRHP infobox generator (which you can also use to run the quick searches i mentioned). If someone wants to start a list article, if you don't have one already, or invite me to join with any one you have in progress, I would be glad to help. I have created many hundreds of other NRHP articles, and specialize in list-articles on NRHPs that are also U.S. National Historic Landmarks.

I find my way to your wikiproject by User:NSH001's addition of your WikiProject link to Old Quaker Meeting House in New York City, an article I worked on that also was edited by User:Drum guy who I see is a member here.

By the way, I've been contributing to List of Anglo-Catholic Churches‎, which was recently embroiled in a nomination for its deletion. By refocusing that list only on individually notable churches (including NRHPs in the U.S. and listed buildings in the UK), the deletion was staved off.

Hope this might be helpful. If you want to reach me, please post to my Talk page, or to the Talk page of WP:NRHP. Cheers, doncram (talk) 00:14, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually maybe one of you could help me. Several Quaker Meeting Houses that are NHLs are listed here: List of churches that are National Historic Landmarks in the United States#NHLs that are Quaker meetinghouses. Along with some I am not sure about, whether they are Quaker or Puritan or other. I'd appreciate any help in identifying those. Thanks, doncram (talk) 01:00, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Coordinator?

It has probably been noticed by most of the editors who frequent this page that there is often a pronounced degree of overlap between the various projects relating to Christianity. Given that overlap, and the rather large amount of content we have related to the subject of Christianity, it has been proposed that the various Christianity projects select a group of coordinators who would help ensure the cooperation of the various projects as well as help manage some project related activities, such as review, assessment, portal management, and the like. Preferably, we would like to consider the possibility of having one party from each of the major Christianity projects included, given the degree of specialization which some of the articles contain. We now are accepting nominations for the coordinators positions at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Coordinators/Election 1. Any parties interested in helping performing some of the management duties of the various Christianity projects is encouraged to nominate themselves there. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 17:34, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Much to my surprise, the period for the factual elections of the new coordinators has started a bit earlier than I expected. For what it's worth, as the "instigator" of the proposed coordinators, the purpose of having them is not to try to impose any sort of "discipline" on the various projects relating to Christianity, but just to ensure that things like assessment, peer review, portal maintainance, and other similar directly project-related functions get peformed for all the various projects relating to Christianity. If there are any individuals with this project who are already doing such activities for the project, and who want to take on the role more formally, I think nominations are being held open until the end of the elections themselves. And, for the purposes of this election, any member in good standing of any of the Christianity projects can either be nominated or express their votes at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Coordinators/Election 1. Thank you for your attention. John Carter (talk) 00:39, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Quaker customs around death

Please see Talk:Religious_Society_of_Friends#Mortal_remains. Do we need an article on this topic? If so, is my response at this page suitable? Vernon White . . . Talk 23:20, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

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Quakers in ODNB absent from Wikipedia

I've found that Quakers are statistically less well-represented in Wikipedia than they are in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. I've put a list of some Quakers prominent in ODNB but lacking a Wikipedia page on my userpage. Dsp13 (talk) 11:14, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk page archiving started

This page will now automatically archive discussion which no one has replied to in two years. It was getting a bit long.

Thanks, Drum guy (talk) 15:28, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I propose changing it to archive after there has been no discussion after one year. Any thoughts?
Thanks, Drum guy (talk) 22:34, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
OK, I've gone ahead and done that. Thanks, Drum guy (talk) 23:04, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject name

Has anyone thought of changing the WikiProject name to WikiProject Quakerism (or possibly WikiProject Quakers)? I know it's not the full title, but I think it would be easier to work with - more simple - and I'd support mentioning that Quakers are formally known as the Religious Society of Friends many places that it would be appropriate in - definitely in the first sentence on WP:WikiProject Religious Society of Friends (Quakers). I just wonder if it's a needless chore writing it out.

Please let me know what you think. Thanks, Drum guy (talk) 15:34, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I've put a redirect from WIkipedia:WikiProject Quakers.Dsp13 (talk) 14:48, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. And what about changing the official name of the project to WikiProject Quakerism - what would people think about that? Drum guy (talk) 22:35, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
I am not keen on the term "Quakerism" as the RSoF is in no way a unified faith community. The term implies a set of dogma to which all adherents subscribe. Conside the damage various ". . . ists" have done (excepting, of course, pianists and other instrumentalists). The Quaker faith never burnt anyone at the stake, "Quakerism" might. Vernon White . . . Talk 18:29, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

How to Join Project

I would very much like to join the project but am not sure how. I am a live long Quaker First 30 years FUM and The next 30 PYM.

Bill Smith —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wmgsmith (talk • contribs) 21:39, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Anyone is welcome to join the project. Not a great deal happens on these pages these days, but it has been from time to time. Just add your name to the list of project members. --Ahc (talk) 22:58, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

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Thomas Tompion

Thomas Tompion has been added to the list of quakers [1]. Can please somebody find a source for this? On the internet I find very few instances (one is Encylopedia Of Antiques). Do we go ahead an consider him as a Friend? -- MHM (talk) 11:21, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Neither his DNB not his ODNB entry mentions him being a Friend. Dsp13 (talk) 00:31, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Consensus_decision-making

Consensus_decision-making and Consensus_decision-making#Quaker_model have bugged me for some time; mostly because I feel what we practice is /not/ consensus, as such; it's determining unity with the will of the Divine.

However, I don't have a vision for what it should be replaced with. Sure, what we do is informed by consensus, and consensus forms have been affected by our decision-making process, and it's proper to recognize that.

Would anybody have a succinct way to state that, so at least we could put that at the top of the section on "Quaker Model"? As a step on the way toward a better answer? DAllen\talk 04:33, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

The Bulwark by Theodore Dreiser

Hello. I have just created a page on Dreiser's The Bulwark, which is a novel about Quakers. I have added your wikiproject tag.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:51, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

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Robert Pleasants

User:Ecoleetage created the page Robert Pleasants and added this name to the Template:Religious Society of Friends.
User:Ecoleetage has been banned from editing Wikipedia.

Is the article on Robert Pleasants accurate? Is it reasonable to add this name to the list of the most "famous" Friends in the template? -- MHM (talk) 20:25, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Discussion regarding project organization

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Possible navigation template

It doesn't seem that there is a box similar to Template:Roman Catholicism2 for use on the most important articles relating to the Quakers. Would the members of this project object to such a template, and, if you do think it is a good idea, which articles would you want to see included in it? I would think that the articles included would be effectively the most important ones, as those are the ones which give the best indication of the totality of the subject. John Carter (talk) 00:04, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Inactive QuakerWiki

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Journal of George Fox?

Some of the contents of the Journal is discussed in the article about George Fox, but any thoughts about adding an article specific to this work? It may be of interest. Surv1v4l1st (Talk|Contribs) 17:46, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

A Quaker Woman's Cookbook: The Domestic Cookery of Elizabeth Ellicott Lea

Any thoughts on adding an article for the book A Quaker Woman's Cookbook: The Domestic Cookery of Elizabeth Ellicott Lea? Might be of some historical note. Surv1v4l1st (Talk|Contribs) 00:40, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Christianity coordinators elections

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Quakers and human rights

Hi. I'm interested in writing about the Quaker influence on the development of human rights in the United States, and I was wondering if anyone can recommend some good sources, either off or online. I've begun looking at David Yount's How the Quakers Invented America (2007) and some other sources, but if anyone can point me in the right direction, that would be appreciated. Or, come on over to the human rights in the United States article and help expand it. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 12:48, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Here is a bibliography. You may try other searches on tripod, library catalogue from three quakers colleges. -- MHM (talk) 05:54, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

New category: Quakers and Russia

I have added a category: Quakers and Russia. Vernon White . . . Talk 08:52, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Your views on thsi would be welcome at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_June_3#Category:Quakers_and_Russia Vernon White . . . Talk 08:28, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Deleted 11 June 2009--MHM (talk) 05:58, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

(Quaker) or (Society of Friends)

Does, or should, your project have a policy on which should be used? I've just stub-sorted Richard Farnsworth (Society of Friends) but noticed that some other people in Category:Quakerism stubs are "... (Quaker)". PamD (talk) 19:44, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

For disambiguation, keep it short: "(Quaker)" is fine in my view. --NSH001 (talk) 07:29, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Agreed Vernon White . . . Talk 16:45, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

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Proposed split of Religious Society of Friends

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Proposed rename of Religious Society of Friends

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"Quaker Universalist Fellowship" article

Friends,

I am a convinced Friend, member of Columbia (SC) Monthly Meeting and attender of Jacksonville (FL) Monthly Meeting. I am also a public library reference librarian and a writer. My job involves me directly in the development and maintenance of online customer services.

In addition, I recently was invited to join the steering committee of Quaker Universalist Fellowship. In our December conference call meeting, I learned of the QUF committee's concern about shortcomings and inaccuracies in Wikipedia's Quaker Universalist Fellowship article. Another committee member tried to edit this article in November, but her edits were all rejected.

Because of my career experience with online resources, I was asked to pursue the matter. Today I learned that my committee colleague's edits were rejected because of the Conflict of Interest rule (which, of course, means that I cannot edit the article either).

I would appreciate collaborative help in updating and expanding the QUF article in ways which will not violate COI. If you can give assistance, please "talk" with me on my page.

Thanks, Crippled Wolf (talk) 22:47, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Proposed redirection of Christianity subproject talk pages

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Ohio Valley Yearly Meeting

This article was revised by the organisation itself and has serious COI problems among other problems, not least being what looks like a lot of copyvio. It reads almost like a report of the organisation (which I guess isn't surprising) and may have to be stubbed due to the copyvio problems. Anyone want to help turn it into an article that follows our MOS and copyvio/pov etc policies? Dougweller (talk) 17:36, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

I added a few WP:RS sources to that page now. I am not sue who is active on this project, but those sources do have material for use. The previous page material was not incorrect by and large but was copyvio, and was also written with an inspirational rather than encyclopedic tone. But if WP:RS references are used, the page can come back to life. And there is, of course, also Indiana Yearly Meeting which is linked now, but also needs help. History2007 (talk) 04:48, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Request re Quaker Universalist Fellowship article issues

Hello! I am not a Quaker. I am a childless Jewish widow with no COI about the Society of Friends. I was noticing how a Wikipedia editor and sysop had zealously removed a spam link to some awful commodities trading system website, "Turtle Trading", that was improperly wedged into the BLP of a distinguished, PhD'd elderly mathematician. I went to his, Jerzy the sysop's, talk page to thank and praise him, and noticed an old (2011?) request for a non-Friend to peruse a Friend-related article that had run into trouble due to COI issues. Jerzy the sysop had not taken any action that I could tell (he was on a vacation from Wikipedia at that time, I think).

I perused the article, and left a lengthy assessment on Crippled Wolf's talk page, #3 re Quaker Universalist Fellowship. Said user hasn't shown signs of activity since Jan 2012. The article in question, Quaker Universalist Fellowship, is even mentioned right here, on this page, as a subsection located approx. three sections above mine, number 19, I think. Might someone have a look? I provided a lot of detail on that talk page. Feel free to move it if the article talk page would have been a more appropriate place to enter it.

My primary concern is for your Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) Wikiproject to ascertain whether or not the article is merely a thinly veiled e-commerce promotion. The website and subject matter seemed genuine in 2005, (content was devoted to Quaker-ish ecclesiastical matters), but some guy is selling a book there now. I don't want to go any further with this, due to my lack of subject matter knowledge. I know about mathematics and miracle-online trading scams, not about the Society of Friends. If I am incorrect, and all is well with this organization, and Wikipedia article, please excuse my ignorance, and don't take offense? Thank you. --FeralOink (talk) 16:55, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

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Olney Friends School

I have been looking into Olney Friends School for personal reasons and checked out the article here. It sounded promotional--at least to the extent that Friends do that--rather than encyclopedic, especially when I came across the pronoun "we" for the subject of the article. Also, the Talk page lists several associated Wikiprojects and this one should probably be added. Matchups 19:34, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

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