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On 17 December 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Seven and Seven. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

Page name[edit]

As I see it, naming the article "Seven and Seven" would make more sense.~ 82.170.131.213 (talk) 17:34, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is ambiguity here because "seven and seven" also refers to the common practice in the offshore oil industry of cycling personnel to work seven days on the rig, and seven days off duty on-shore. MWaldon2 (talk) 21:29, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That seems like a minor ambiguity. That meaning is not mentioned on the Seven & Seven disambiguation page, and is probably not known to the general public (and there may not be very much to say about it as an encyclopedic subject). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 19:46, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Additional popular reference[edit]

Referenced in the film Narrow Margin, the bad guy orderes it. Zuckerberg (talk) 21:25, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

so what? who cares? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 345Kai (talk • contribs) 01:50, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Why two recipes?[edit]

Why are there two different recipes? Can we agree on one to use as an example, and then just say there are variations? Rees11 (talk) 20:19, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pop culture[edit]

I've removed the pop culture section. All of them seemed to be mere passing mentions, and thus trivia. All but one of the entries were unsourced, and it made the article enormously unbalanced - roughly 340 words were needed to illustrate the 7 and 7's overwhelming influence on popular culture, compared with about 56 words for the rest of the article. --Bongwarrior (talk) 02:32, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 17 December 2022[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. However, no opposition to a primary redirect for Seven & Seven. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 21:14, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

7 and 7 → Seven and Seven
Seven & Seven → Seven & Seven (disambiguation)

– MOS:SPELL09 and WP:& encourage us to spell out digits and ampersands as words, and the primary distinctive ingredient of this cocktail is Seagram's Seven Crown, which is ordinarily spelled out, and some of the sources spell out the cocktail name. The infobox heading is already "Seven and Seven". I'll acknowledge that 7 Up is typically not spelled out (since it's a trademark that uses the digit), but my impression is that the 7 Up is not as essential to this cocktail as the Seagram's; the cocktail can likely be made with any lemon-lime soda (e.g. Sprite) without offending most consumers of the mixture. I believe this cocktail is the primary meaning of "Seven & Seven" as well as "Seven and Seven", "7 and 7", "7 & 7", "Seven and seven", "Seven & seven", "Seven and 7" and "Seven & 7", so the disambiguation page should be renamed, and WP:PRIMARYREDIRECTs should be in place for the spelling and capitalization variations. The other topics listed at Seven & Seven are derived from the name of the cocktail. See also the related discussion at Talk:7 and 7#Page name. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 19:46, 17 December 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. echidnaLives - talk - edits 10:29, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose 1, support 2. I'm not seeing any evidence one is more commonly used than the other. However, both Seagram's [1] and 7UP [2] use "7 & 7", so I'd stick with that. Seven & Seven should definitely be a primary redirect, however. 162 etc. (talk) 23:02, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: To form a clearer consensus echidnaLives - talk - edits 10:29, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.