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Advert[edit]

Why this? Believe me, I am not related to the company behind. I just like this drink and prefer it to Coca Cola or whatever else, as long as it is organic and naturally brewed. I also find it's history rather interesting, and they are going to expand to the US market as well. That's why I started this article. What exactly can be described as "written like an advertisement."? Alex Ex 19:53, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

the entire "Product" section reads like a promotional brochure. it is not written in an encyclopedic manner. Anastrophe 02:40, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that was my guess... I didn't write most of that [1]. But I've re-written this part now. I've also find out that the "advertising" text was copyvio from [2] Alex Ex 14:31, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

excellent. thank you kindly! i'm going to do some minor copyediting for grammar/syntax, hope you don't mind. Anastrophe 16:16, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

thank You! Copyediting grammar/syntax is absolutely fine. I am not a native english-speaker, there may be mistakes or unusual constructions in some phrases. Alex Ex 19:36, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I still thought it was quite a PR piece so I tried to reorganize. I did not remove (except the word "independent" for the reviews on the ???bev site) but only moved text, and added the actual ingredients so people can see the promotion story is exaggerating the organicness and the healthiness. Oh and I wasn't logged in. Arakrys (talk) 17:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Factual basis for statements[edit]

I challenge the factual basis for this statement, added by editor 68junior88:

Bionade's innovative brewing process converts the malt sugar into gluconic acid instead of alcohol. This is a natural ingredient of bee honey and is considered to be very healthy. Because gluconic acid strengthens the taste of natural sugar, Bionade needs only a fraction of the sugar found in a normal soft drink.

Unless there's a source for this text, I propose to delete it. This page already appears to have a very biased POV, and this text would just make it worse. Bry9000 (talk) 00:53, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This page looks much better now, and the offending statements have been remedied. Bry9000 (talk) 22:28, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Factual Accuracy[edit]

I changed the text:"He was worried about the future of the company, which was about to go bankrupt, as import beers like Corona were taking away market shares from domestic producers.[1][2]", since in Germany the domestic market is not being taken over by imported beers, but rather imported beers are gaining market shares. This exagerates the facts. That Miller lite is one of the beers that is becoming popular in Germany is simply not true, despite the citation form Time magazin. I have been around Germany a lot and know this from experience. You'll be hard pressed to find a bar or shop that offers any American beer. Weeddude (talk) 16:42, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

the problem is, we don't know who you are, and have no way to verify the factual accuracy of your experiences. wikipedia relies upon verifiable information - Time magazine is verifiable, you are not. Anastrophe (talk) 16:46, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes thank you Anastrophe. Time is a popular news source, but their news must still be verifiable. Time does not cite where the information comes from and I have not been able to find another source that confirms their statement that Miller and Corona are taking over the German market. On the other hand, BILD, a popular German daily paper does not even list Miller in the top ten beers sold (http://www.bild.de/BTO/tipps-trends/geld-job/2007/08/09/bier-liste/beliebte-marken-deutschland,geo=2283880.html), so saying that Miller and Corona are taking over the German market is simply not true.Weeddude (talk) 16:22, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

calcium and magnesium[edit]

"calcium and magnesium, in such quantities that they do not cancel each other out" I'm not a chemist, but from what I remember, it doesn't make sense. What is that "cancel out" supposed to mean?

good point. the source mentions that the uptake of magnesium inhibits the uptake of calcium and vice versa. I deleted the section, since this does not seem like very relevant information but more like an advertisment.

Weeddude (talk) 09:07, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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