Talk:Eat Bulaga!

Untitled

Ok, I'm no poet but I figured that we should give English translations here. If anyone can improve them, do so. :) --Howard the Duck 15:27, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Marikina 11:42, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
No mention ng "Alaxan Gladiators"? That was one of the best EB segments of all time! Puwisto! :p

Lol. It should be added. Dunno the history of that, though. --Howard the Duck 14:38, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Did Kris and Sharon become hosts of EB? John earlm 13:19, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps a few episodes. --Howard the Duck 06:13, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Changing "Home network"

The article said that the concert in 1995 after leaving ABS-CBN marked the "return of Tito, Vic, and Joey to their home network GMA". Tito, Vic, and Joey only signed to GMA in 1995, the show originated on RPN, how can it be a "comeback to their homestation GMA" if they started at RPN and were never signed to GMA until 1995 since the show originated on RPN in the 1980s? I'm a fan of EB by the way. -RA

because Tito, Vic and Joey started out in discorama which is a show in GMA hosted by Bobby Ledesma. That is why it is a homecoming for the trio from where they started. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.1.173.21 (talk) 11:31, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Latin American ladies

Diana, Ariani Nogueira's replacement, is not mentioned in this article and neither is Ariana. Is Diana also Brazilian? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.97.154.50 (talk) 09:12, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Daiana Menezes is Brazilian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.97.222.23 (talk) 11:00, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Student Canteen

I thought it was aired at ABS-CBN? John earlm 20:27, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

.....

kelan ulit mggue2st c aiza seguerra sana mkita q xa khit one tym lang in person ha. walal lang gus2 q po kc xa eh.

Please post in natural English; not all people in Wikipedia can understand what you are trying to say, and this is NOT a forum for the show. Please remember to respect the talk page guidelines. Blake Gripling 13:23, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

article needs serous work

This article is in need of citations or something... Also a trimming of some trivial facts (like the list of competing shows)I'll try and help as much as i can but i don't want to just start killing whole sections without talking about it (esp since i really don't know the show)harlock_jds 22:16, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Did Gladys Guevarra came back to Eat Bulaga? -unknown1212

Popular Segments Article

What happened to that page ? AvengingStriker (talk) 04:35, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

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Joey de Leon

I removed the section due to the following concerns:

1. Wikipedia is not a soapbox. See WP:SOAPBOX. We do not promote any advocacy here.
2. information should be cited with sources. This section has no sources.
3. As said above, the negative information is not cited and might lead to libel claims. See WP:GRAPEVINE.

--Lenticel ^(talk) 23:55, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. We're here to present facts, not bear sympathy for Pokwang or the journalists, or say something against Joey. I'm not the guy who wrote the section, but I moved it to an appropriate one, hoping for a fix o two from you. Blake Gripling (talk) 00:00, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Doubt

I doubt that Eat Bulaga is the longest running show in the country. I think there is one even longer-running than the show, which is Kapwa Ko Mahal Ko. Any actions?

Sir Jazer 13 (talk) 06:09, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

I believe that "Eat Bulaga" is the longest running noontime show on Philippine television, not the longest running show. -Goodday51 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodday51 (talk • contribs) 03:59, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

TINDAHAN NI KA PURING(PUREGOLD) C/O EAT BULAGA GMA NOONTIME SHOW

Sa TINDAHAN NI KA PURING:

Pagbati at Pagpapala ang Suma Inyo!!!

Bagamat wala po akong TV upang mapanood at makita kung paano kayo nakakatulong sa maraming tao na umunlad ang kanilang pamumuhay sa tulong na ipinag kaloob po ninyo ang lahat ng ito ay akin lamang naririnig sa mga taong aking nakakasalamuha sa tuwing ako ay naghahanap ng trabaho, nakaka lungkot lamang sa kadahilanang ang mas binibigyang pansin at inuuna ay ang mga kabataang nakatapos ng pag aaral at nasa average age. Kaya't hanggang sa ngayon ako po ay di nawawalan ng pag asa na makakuha ng trabaho. Ka Puring kung inyo pong mamarapatin nais ko ring magkaroon ng TINDAHAN upang kami ng aking anak na kahit di siya nakatapos ng high school ay magtulungan kami upang sa darating na panahon siya ay makapag aral at makahanap ng maayos at marangal na trabaho, Ka Puring sa nakaraang Abril 18 aking ipinag diwang ang aking ika - 48 taong gulang at ako ay isang BALO, nais ko sana na maging isang patotoo at umunlad ang buhay dahil sa inyong pinagka loob na PAG-ASA at tulong

Lubos na Gumagalang at Nag papasalamat:

RAFAEL CRUZ SANTOS Cellphone No.: 09109215778 N0.422 Mahogany Street Camella Homes Subd.3 Greenheights Brgy San Isidro Dr. A Santos Avenue, Parañaque City —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.198.134.96 (talk) 10:09, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

This is not the place to write about petitions. I would delete this if I have a choice, but I think I can leave it here as a warning: Do not post these things here. Mvching (talk) 17:05, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Previous Hosts

Should we create a section for hosts that resigned from Eat Bulaga? Mvching (talk) 17:05, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2015

Golden Screen TV Awards 2015: Eat Bulaga! - Outsanding Variey Program 2015: Julia Clarete- Outsanding Female Host in a Musical/Variety Program Marksevilla110 (talk) 09:33, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 20:16, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Rivals of Eat Bulaga

1. Student Canteen (1979-March 10,1986) 2. Lunch Date (March 10 1986- March 19, 1993) 3. Salo- Salo Together (March 20, 1993-January 27, 1995) 4. 'Sang Linggo nAPO Sila (February 6, 1995- November 28, 1998) 5. Magandang Tanghali Bayan (November 30, 1998- February 4, 2005) 6. Wowowee (February 5, 2005 - July 30, 2010) 7. Pilipinas Win Na Win (July 31, 2010 - December 31, 2010) 8. Happy Yipee Yehey (February 12, 2011 - February 4, 2012) 9. It's Showtime (February 6, 2012 - present) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.150.199.95 (talk) 09:56, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 August 2015

Please change August 19, 2015 episode to August 12, 2015 episode Slick2 (talk) 19:59, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it is not for outdate from the episode, if only the update to the change to YYY and ZZZ. Oripaypaykim (talk) 21:48, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 May 2016

Please remove Pancho Oppus as one of the lyricists for the Eat Bulaga Theme. Credit for the lyrics belongs to Vincent Dy Buncio alone. I collaborated with Vincent on other TVJ material, but not the theme. - Pancho Oppus 184.105.245.164 (talk) 20:19, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 20:44, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 September 2016

UPDATE: I already edited it.

Totodilefan30 (talk) 10:35, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

 Not done Your account is very close to being auto-confirmed (please see Wikipedia:AUTOCONFIRM on how to get your account to an auto-confirmed status). With an auto-confirmed account, you will be able to edit semi-protected pages. Also I am a bit confused on what you want to add in the article. You say to add these people that you mentioned above, but given the context of the article and it's current layout, you will also need to provide a description for each of these additions that you add to the article. Please let me know if you have any other questions. Regards— MeowMoon (talk) 00:03, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 December 2016

In Co-Hosts list: Stefanie Walmsley appeared/hosted in 1998 EB episodes (e.g. August 15, 1998 episode). Please add year beside name (1998) Thanks. 122.53.234.31 (talk) 08:43, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Not done: Can you provide a source to support your statement. regards, DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 11:06, 6 December 2016 (UTC).

Lea Salonga

An IP editor added to Lea Salonga's article that she appeared in Eat Bulaga! from 1980-1985, 1989-1992 and 1995-1998 as an occasional co-host and guest performer. I removed the information pending verification. Can anyone verify any of this with one or more WP:Reliable sources? If so, please let me know on my Talk page. Thanks for any help. -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:48, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

EB ver. 4.0 title card

Hi, I noticed that this wiki still has the old "white plate" title card, but the show has used "EB ver. 4.0" title card for 1.5 years already. However, I don't know what's the process on uploading title cards. Can anybody assist on this? Thank you! elivic (talk) 12:15, 15 March 2020 (UTC) Elivic

Remove the inactive hosts from the list.

Alden, Jimmy and Baste are not hosts of Eat Bulaga now. So, you should remove the inactive hosts from the list. Jumark27 (talk) 08:06, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

But what is it?

This article is missing any explanation of what the show is. Except for the word "variety show" and a couple random mentions of "segment" in the long history section. It needs a stand alone section (before the history one) explaining the format/style/organization of this show. For some American comparisons, Is it old vaudeville style like The Ed Sullivan Show, or sketch comedy like Saturday Night Live or in between like The Carol Burnett Show? I came here because another page mentioned something that led me to expect it was like a Japanese game show format (Kinniku Banzuke). Rmhermen (talk) 17:44, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

This is a good question. The article does lack information on this aspect, although it is a bit of a challenge to find sources for Wikipedia to back up the events that transpired on this show—especially in its early days. This certainly needs a discussion but in the meantime, to answer your question, the show format is quite unconventional and unique in comparison with the Japanese and American shows you've mentioned. From its inception, the show featured various game shows, talent shows, comedy sketches, and public service segments. The genres of these segments vary greatly from time to time, but to oversimplify things, Eat Bulaga! falls under comedy; reality; game show; talent show and possibly talk show (ex. "Bawal Judgmental" and "Juan For All, All For Juan" segment). (Side note: Please correct me if I'm wrong or add if I missed something).

To give you an idea of the show's status: as of this writing, there are currently three game show segments, and a dance competition. In the past few months, there was a singing competition for little girls and a reality talent show. These information are sadly missing in the article.

I think it's a good idea to add a "format" section and clarify the genre on the infobox of the article. There was also a deleted article that listed some if not all the segments of Eat Bulaga! which was a complete mess and I'm thinking if that could be rewritten in a new section here or in a new article that could help explain the show further. FrostFleece (talk) 11:54, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Eat Bulaga, discontinued

For more information about the Eat Bulaga, please go search "Eat Bulaga, nagpaalam". Thank you, salamat sa inyo, dabarkads! 124.104.192.78 (talk) 06:32, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Fake news. I searched online and the show isn't canceled yet and still airing on GMA Network. GMA Network already released a statement through their official site, that the show has an existing contract with GMA Network until 2024. Refrain from using this as a speculation board.TheHotwiki (talk) 07:05, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

He didn't mean that the SHOW ended. 124.104.14.92 (talk) 01:01, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Don't even think about trying to literally take it so seriously, he's just not knowing it. :/ 124.104.14.92 (talk) 01:03, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Tabloid content

Per Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a newspaper, yet User:WayKurat is edit warring and insisting such statements to remain in the article: "The announcement stemmed from the ongoing feud between TVJ and TAPE, Inc. Chairman Romeo Jalosjos regarding the alleged removal of Tony Tuviera from day-to-day operations of Eat Bulaga!, and Jolosjos' plans for the show. TVJ's May 31 announcement was only livestreamed via Eat Bulaga's Facebook page and YouTube channel as the new management did not allow the show to go on-air live and a replay episode was broadcast instead on GMA Network." There's no Feud/alleged removal mentioned in the official press releases of Tape Inc., GMA Network and the former hosts. So why mention it here? I'm asking @WayKurat: to explain/justify why these statements, should remain in the article. Thank you.-TheHotwiki (talk) 05:54, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

@WayKurat:, I'm asking you yourself, to explain your edits before I go to Wikipedia:Peer review to look into this article. Thank you for your cooperation.TheHotwiki (talk) 05:59, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

I won't deal on the tone of your questions, but I will answer it. The "tabloid content" that you keep on removing has been covered by many media outlets since the controversy between TVJ and TAPE became public last March, especially now that they parted ways with TAPE last May 31. You can watch the GMA's Nelson Canlas interview with Tito Sotto on their official YouTube channel and it mentioned that Tony Tuviera was forcefully removed as president of TAPE. About the May 31 announcement, it was mentioned at the beginning of their announcement itself that they were prohibited to go live by the new management. -WayKurat (talk) 14:54, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2023

For the Fact Check in host's Johntimberlake08 (talk) 07:17, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 10:53, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 June 2023

Titlecard must be changed Kmresurreccion (talk) 06:36, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 07:19, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Move "Eat Bulaga!" to "Eat Bulaga! (TAPE Inc.)" and Move "E.A.T. (TV Program)" to "Eat Bulaga! (TVJ Productions Inc.)"

I suggest moving these articles to new titles to reflect the current reality: 1. Eat Bulaga! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eat_Bulaga! to Eat Bulaga! (TAPE Inc.) 2. E.A.T. (TV program) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.A.T._(TV_program) to Eat Bulaga! (TVJ Productions Inc.)

Both are now actively and directly claiming the name. And this will better reflect the two iterations of the show, should one of them be cancelled eventually, in view of TAPE's expiring contract with GMA this December 2024.

2001:4450:454A:8900:2C51:CD88:5BE4:B477 (talk) 03:45, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Disagree. This show existed since 1979. This is technically and will always be the original Eat Bulaga show. TheHotwiki (talk) 06:14, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Hintayin nyo muna yung final decision.

para kahit maging sa TVJ ang EB ay hindi na kailangan idelete ito, i modify nalang 158.62.96.10 (talk) 00:08, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Please use English in this talk page, this is English Wikipedia. Don't assume everybody who visits this talk page understands Tagalog words. TheHotwiki (talk) 14:23, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Wait for the court’s final verdict. So that even it finds that Eat Bulaga trade belongs to TVJ camp, all you need to do is to modify the page and not delete it. (Merge) 158.62.96.10 (talk) 00:32, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

There's no point of waiting. Its two different shows. TheHotwiki (talk) 05:26, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

It’s two different show. But another show is claiming to be the original.

It is challenged in court. So when another claimant win the court. It will continue as this one. 158.62.96.10 (talk) 21:49, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

You do know that the original hosts decided to leave their show that started in 1979, and created a new show with a different title which airs in a different network. The one being discussed in court is who gets to use the title "Eat Bulaga!". TheHotwiki (talk) 22:35, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

They are fighting for the title and also the originality

https://www.gmanetwork.com/entertainment/tv/eat_bulaga/53317/joey-de-leon-ikinuwento-kung-saan-nanggaling-ang-pangalan-ng-eat-bulaga/story?amp 158.62.96.10 (talk) 00:34, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

But what if Eat Bulaga (TV5) win? Wouldn’t you need to close this article? 158.62.96.10 (talk) 00:35, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

This article will remain open even if the show ends today. Again, you are ignoring the fact that its two separate shows. Eat Bulaga that airs in GMA (that also aired in RPN and ABS CBN in the past, and E.A.T. in TV5 which features former Eat Bulaga! hosts. This article is for the show that started in 1979, and will remain that way even if it gets a new title, unless TAPE Inc. decides to cancel this show, and create a new show like E.A.T. TheHotwiki (talk) 01:45, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Maybe you should consider now that the Marikina RTC already decided on it. While Tape, Inc. can appeal, the court decision and order remains. I suggest creating two articles for both the TAPE iteration and the TVJ-TV5 one. Both articles would mention TVJ but the would diverge on the 2023 historical timeline. RepublicaNegrense (talk) 18:07, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

And, as I said before, both shall be named Eat Bulaga with the (Tape, Inc.) and (TVJ Productions, Inc.) identifiers. One shall mention its continuation with the new hosts (and probably death by court decision), the other its new life in TV5 and clearer TVJ ownership of the title. Wiki should reflect this OBVIOUS and UNDENIABLE reality that involved decisions by government agencies and court of law. RepublicaNegrense (talk) 18:10, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Until there’s no 2nd show that uses the title "Eat Bulaga!", there's no need to move this article that covers the show that started in 1979. TheHotwiki (talk) 20:20, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

The show you call EAT now started the show with the title Eat Bulaga! The show you call Eat Bulaga! now calls itself Tahanang Pinakamasya. AGAIN, move the articles into Eat Bulaga! (TAPE, Inc.) and Eat Bulaga! (TVJ Productions, Inc.). Refusing to do so makes me suspicious of the purpose as to why we are not reflecting current realities, as we should. RepublicaNegrense (talk) 03:48, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

TVJ wins copyright case, owns Eat Bulaga trademark

In a 16-page decision on Monday, the Intellectual Property Office of the Philippines (IPOPHL) canceled the trademark registration of the Jalosjosowned company and declared that the trio who served as hosts of the longrunning noontime show are the owners of the trademark.

They also invalidated Tape's trademark of the name. This means Eat Bulaga continues its 45th year on TV5, now called E.A.T. Bulaga and will soon be changed to Eat Bulaga.

As a result of the ruling, the current show on GMA7 produced by TAPE, Inc is now infringing on the name "Eat Bulaga" and any reference to that show should be taken out from this page or amended to the fact that they will soon have to change the name they are using.

Here is a link to the ruling: https://entertainment.inquirer.net/530412/tvj-wins-copyright-case-owns-eat-bulaga-trademark 136.58.27.4 (talk) 22:44, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Pwede pa iapela ng TAPE yan.

pero sana i reflect din ang decision sa article na ito.

need final ruling 158.62.96.10 (talk) 00:07, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Eat Bulaga! (the one that started in the 70s) and E.A.T. are two separate shows. Even if E.A.T. gets renamed as Eat Bulaga! eventually. TheHotwiki (talk) 14:22, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Technically now they are different. But if they win. It is a continuation.

what’s the point of winning then? They must continue the reign. 158.62.96.10 (talk) 21:51, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

This should be modified already because TVJ is Eat Bulaga and has been moved to TV5 already

This should be modified already because TVJ is Eat Bulaga and has been moved to TV5 already 112.204.174.92 (talk) 06:44, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

False. Eat Bulaga! hasn't been moved to TV5, regardless if E.A.T. can now use the words "Eat Bulaga!" as the title of their show. The show in TV5 is a separate show. That's why it has its own Wikipedia article. TheHotwiki (talk) 14:17, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

The show is not different.

the article is. 158.62.96.10 (talk) 21:52, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

IPOPHIL

Hindi masasabi kung kanino sa ngayon ito. May apela sila sa IPOPHIL na nagkansela ng kanilang ownership. 158.62.96.10 (talk) 00:06, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

This is the English Wikipedia. Please refrain from using a different language, when discussing things in the talkpage. TheHotwiki (talk) 14:19, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Eat Bulaga is for TVJ

I read the news that TVJ won in Eat Bulaga trademark 3 weeks ago according to many newspapers such as Philstar.com, The Manila Times, Rappler, ABS-CBN News, etc. so please change that article Farfishman (talk) 05:43, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

F.Y.I. HOTWIKI USER

The article needs to be updated with the latest news regarding TVJ, as readers may compare it to TVJ E.A.T show, the original Eat Bulaga. Nestor i. sangalang (talk) 10:13, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Do you know what transparency means? Also its already mentioned in the controversy section. Why do you need to bring it up in the lead section? There are bigger things related to the show, that aren't highlighted in the lead section, such as Aldub, Wally Bayola being suspended for the leaked video, etc. Keep it under the controversy section. Your edits in this article is nothing but disruptive. TheHotwiki (talk) 12:16, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

THE CANCELLATION OF TAPE INC. IS A BIGGER ISSUE. TRADEMARK REGISTRATION CANCELLATION RELATING TO HOW THE OPERATION OF EAT BULAGA-TAPE WILL BE AFFECTED. ALDUB, WALLY BAYOLA IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS GOVERNMENT'S TRADEMARK CANCELLATION. UNDERSTAND MY PERCEPTION HERE. THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF CHANGING THEIR TITLE. Nestor i. sangalang (talk) 21:44, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Look at how you are spamming this talk page with your constant creation of sections, when you could just keep it all under one section, especially if all these messages are towards to 1 editor only (me)? Keep it civil. TheHotwiki (talk) 02:10, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

On Hotwiki, I already reverted to the controversy section, but you always end up making contradictory allegations with us other editors. Keep it also civil. We appreciate your hard work on this page, but not only your opinion and knowledge. Please respect the ideas of others. We are not biased; we only thought about the transparency of this page. We were not against it. Don't be so naive and arrogant toward us. This page, Eat Bulaga by TAPE, is on the verge of letting go of its own title because they lost the first trial of the case. I wrote about an important issue in the lead section because it needs to be addressed. It's a different thing when it comes to the controversy you're raising. Without the trademark, they can't operate their productions properly. It's not one-sided. The truth will prevail in this Wikipedia.

Thank you and God Bless! Nestor i. sangalang (talk) 02:52, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

I read in the History section particularly in GMA Network (since 2023) that their trademark renewal was approved last August 2023 where it suddenly disappeared after the cancellation. Now you insist that the cancellation should be addressed in the controversy section. I'm fed up with your one sided approach. Nestor i. sangalang (talk) 03:11, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 January 2024

98.14.152.226 (talk) 16:00, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

https://tl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eat_Bulaga!

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Liu1126 (talk) 16:11, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Give this page back to TVJ

TVJ is Eat Bulaga , Eat Bulaga is TVJ, give this page back to them 120.28.196.53 (talk) 14:53, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Make massive edits on this page.

The page is already misleading. Please do proper formatting and elaborations. Some editors have already revised the page with no proper interventions. Main Eat Bulaga! : The page should contain Eat Bulaga with TVJ from 1979–May 2023, Eat Bulaga TAPE from June 6 2023–January 5 2024, Eat Bulaga TVJ from January 5, 2024–present, and should be merge from EAT from July 1, 2023–January 5, 2024 Nestor i. sangalang (talk) 01:22, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Wait until TAPE Inc. officially cancels the show. No need to merge this with another show, when a merger or official takeover of the Eat Bulaga show, hasn't officially happened. TheHotwiki (talk) 02:00, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Hotwiki

According to the court ruling, Tape Inc. has no rights to use the Eat Bulaga title. There's no use in cleaning up. Hotwiki user is a biased editor. Nestor i. sangalang (talk) 02:05, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Hotwiki, theres no point that TAPE Inc. will make a statement; its obvious that they no longer have the title Eat Bulaga!.Please make massive editing on the page. Nestor i. sangalang (talk) 02:10, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Thats already written in the article that GMA/Tape Inc. cannot use the trademarks. As of January 6, 2024, both companies haven't announced what to do with the show. So why you are suddenly removing things, as if TVJ already took over this show? They won the trademark case, they have yet to take over the actual show. TheHotwiki (talk) 02:11, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Youre too much HOTWIKI user. As per the Marikina branch, they ordered that Tape Inc. has no valid grounds to use the Eat Bulaga title or other materials linking to Eat Bulaga! Please maintain the transparency of this page. TAPE Inc.'s upcoming new show should have a separate page because they do not own the title Eat Bulaga with a permanent injunction issued by the court. understood? Nestor i. sangalang (talk) 02:14, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

You're jumping into conclusions. Again wait until for the official announcement if there will be a new Eat Bulaga show from TV5/tvj Productions, and if Tape Inc./Eat Bulaga will resume the show under a new title. TheHotwiki (talk) 02:17, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. I have done with my issue with you. Just edit the page. You will just wait for the update, but it's obvious that the winning party will take over EAT Bulaga! And the losing party will rebrand that court ruling. Nestor i. sangalang (talk) 02:21, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

I don't understand why you keep telling us Wikipedia users to wait for the statement of TAPE Inc., wherein the court has officially released statement JANUARY 5, 2024 that TAPE Inc. will be separated from the Eat Bulaga title because TVJ has the copyright and trademark of the said title. Nestor i. sangalang (talk) 02:19, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Are you Tape Inc./GMA Network/TVJ Productions? This is Wikipedia, we don't use our own assumptions. TheHotwiki (talk) 02:21, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

I'm not into both parties; you're just implying that I'm one-sided, in fact, maybe you. Theres a court ruling about that issue, and you couldn't absord the real score in this issue. Nestor i. sangalang (talk) 02:24, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

You've recently made an edit that implied that the current hosts of Eat Bulaga (that ones that appear in GMA Network) were already terminated.[1] That is jumping into conclusion. Again wait for official announcement from GMA Network, Tape Inc. and TVJ Productions. TheHotwiki (talk) 02:27, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm taking my hands off of this conversation. It's up to you later to make massive edits for me. Nestor i. sangalang (talk) 02:31, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

You aren't in the position to dictate, that I should make massive edits for you later on. Whatever that means. TheHotwiki (talk) 02:33, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry my king Nestor i. sangalang (talk) 02:38, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Lets see later, but im sorry for you but i dont see that TAPE Inc. will use the title. Please have a massive edit after you see the results. Under court rule once they issue the order there is no other way for TAPE Inc to use the title and other material linking to it. Nestor i. sangalang (talk) 02:28, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

You don't need to be sorry for me as this article isn't about me. Refrain from jumping in conclusions. You are removing hosts as if something was already announced. That's misinformation. TheHotwiki (talk) 02:30, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry for that misinformation, but thank me later, 1-2 hours after our conversation. Nestor i. sangalang (talk) 02:32, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

From the official TVJ YouTube channel: "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88QiyXlV_VY&t=201s&ab_channel=TVJ"

It is pretty clear from their January 5 announcement. As far as TVJ is concerned, E.A.T. = Eat Bulaga!, especially with the recent PERMANENT injunction from Marikina RTC. An injunction is also immediately executory, it is not like the IPOPHIL decision or a TRO. 112.210.224.70 (talk) 04:46, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Attribution cleanup on this page and E.A.T. page

It is possible that there are revisions here on Eat Bulaga! and E.A.T. (TV program) that copied content from each other. Per WP:PATT, this needs proper attribution. Can anyone please help with looking at the revisions with copied content? Thank you so much - I do not have the energy to sift through this by myself. Caehlla2357 (talk) 02:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

I think certain editors are jumping into conclusions (because of the result of the 2023 Trademark case against Tape Inc.) about whats going to happen to the show and merging this with another show (E.A.T.), when a formal merger or takeover hasn't been announced yet. TheHotwiki (talk) 02:20, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

The "takeover" you are looking for was announced already (as far as TVJ is concerned). See January 5 TVJ video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88QiyXlV_VY&t=201s&ab_channel=TVJ"

And what is the point of updating their title card (since January 6) then: https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=256072447509438&set=a.111950595254958

In any case, more news articles should come out about this in the next few days. Dinocarlo (talk) 05:31, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Create a new article for "Tahanang Pinakamasaya!", do not rename this page.

Since TAPE Inc. already launched their new noontime show titled "Tahanang Pinakamasaya!" please make it a new article instead of renaming this page. EJA9398 (talk) 03:46, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Reference? TheHotwiki (talk) 03:53, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Are you serious? Are you not aware about the recent changes? Okay here's one reference

https://web.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1592157578220139&substory_index=1592157578220139&id=100094087455523&mibextid=Nif5oz EJA9398 (talk) 04:02, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Not everybody here watches live television. Also may I remind you, this is Wikipedia. Adding reliable sources is part of Wikipedia's rules. You just cannot claim things here without adding reliable sources, and expect everybody to believe you and not question about credibility of your edits, therefore I asked you to provide a reference. And Yes, I am serous.TheHotwiki (talk) 04:05, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

From the official TVJ YouTube channel: "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88QiyXlV_VY&t=201s&ab_channel=TVJ"

It is pretty clear from their January 5 announcement. As far as TVJ is concerned, E.A.T. = Eat Bulaga!, especially with the recent PERMANENT injunction from Marikina RTC. An injunction is also immediately executory, it is not like the IPOPHIL decision or a TRO. 112.210.224.70 (talk) 04:46, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Merger of Eat Bulaga! and E.A.T.

Since TVJ won the Eat Bulaga! trademark, I suggest the articles for Eat Bulaga! and E.A.T. will be merged into one. RMXY (talk • contribs) 04:49, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

I agree 103.171.89.203 (talk) 05:03, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

I agree. However we should increase the protection of both pages for the meantime until a consensus is reached and sufficient news articles about it have been published KuyaStephenAlaEH (talk) 05:19, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

I agree Nintendoswitchfan (talk) 05:34, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

We should discard all of TAPE's history of using Eat Bulaga in the main page as they've done disgrace to the show's name. We should let the TAPE Inc. history stop on 31st of May, 2023. 103.91.143.6 (talk) 08:21, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

This a biased and emotional opinion not worthy of Wikipedia. Please remain neutral. The court decision doesn't change the historical fact that from June 6, 2023 to Jan 5, 2026, TAPE's iteration is the de facto Eat Bulaga. Tagaaplaya (talk) 08:55, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

I agree Myrabert01 (talk) 06:40, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Since they all agree, permission to merge it now through Wikipedia:Redirect? Lowkeypedia (talk) 07:42, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

I second the motion. The next thing is to conduct cleanups and grammatical fix KuyaStephenAlaEH (talk) 07:51, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Agree WikiTG99 (talk) 07:52, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Disagree Tagaaplaya (talk) 09:14, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

There are a few opposes here. So, we should give it a few days. Apologies for some impatient users. 172.58.27.228 (talk) 05:31, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

I hate to say about this, but I can't count some users who agrees with no reason. That is in accordance to the WP:VOTE. 172.58.27.158 (talk) 00:37, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Disagree. EAT was not the de facto nor de jure Eat Bulaga from July 1, 2023 to January 2024. De jure Eat Bulaga 2023-2024 didn't exist. De facto Eat Bulaga 2023-2024 via TAPE's iteration existed though. TV5's EAT stopped existing upon name change to Eat Bulaga as allowed by the court. The court doesn't say that EAT 2023-2024 should be considered Eat Bulaga. That's not point of the case anyway. Edited.Tagaaplaya (talk) 09:13, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Agreed. As long as the histories of both EB and E.A.T. are included for objectivity. Nicco18 (talk) 10:43, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Agreed with the proposition of Nicco KuyaStephenAlaEH (talk) 10:50, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose. E.A.T. was first created as a separate show by different production companies, and TV network. TheHotwiki (talk) 12:15, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

I agree. EAT Bulaga and E.A.T wiki pages must be merged. Hanayorudango07 (talk) 15:47, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose. Comment. It had just happened that after TVJ (and company) left TAPE/GMA Network, Eat Bulaga! was hosted by another group of hosts while there was (let's say) a court battle on which one has the right to use Eat Bulaga! (and the likes); meanwhile TVJ hosted a program in TV5 but with different names of segments and program, hence, E.A.T. Now there's a court ruling, in that case, E.A.T. might serve as the predecessor of Eat Bulaga! in TV5, but not the another version of Eat Bulaga! in GMA. To make it brief and simple, TV5's E.A.T. was a short-lived program aired while there was a legal battle and technically, had no connection with the production of GMA's (and TAPE's) Eat Bulaga! at that time. To be honest and straight, i find E.A.T. deserving to have a separate article, so to avoid any confusion, i suggest: just keep the page for E.A.T.. That's all for my vote.—Raider000 (talk) 17:07, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Additional comment. (Sorry for taking a long time for this.) Reading user's (RMXY) suggestion, "Since TVJ won the Eat Bulaga! trademark..." implies that:

• TVJ (Tito, Vic and Joey) (aside from several hosts) had been hosting Eat Bulaga! since its beginning in then RPN-9 in 1979.
• However, the legal issue (esp. trademark) began when TVJ & company left TAPE & GMA in May 2023. TVJ did not brought Eat Bulaga! upon their move in TV5, and produced one with different title instead, E.A.T. For a while, GMA's Eat Bulaga, while under TAPE, was starred by another set of hosts. Given such matters, productions of TVJ's E.A.T. and TAPE's Eat Bulaga! are two different things.
• With the recent court decision, TVJ eventually used Eat Bulaga! once again. E.A.T. was discontinued. TAPE/GMA changed its title Eat Bulaga! to Tahanang Pinakamasaya (might deserving also a separate article). Thus, "TP" replaces "EB!" (no longer to be used by TAPE) in GMA. "EB!" (w/ court decision in favor of TVJ) replaces "E.A.T".
• If TVJ trio (not TVJ Productions) is to be given a separate article, we can say they hosted Eat Bulaga! (1979–2023; 2024–present) and E.A.T. (while there was a court case, 2023–24). For Eat Bulaga!, this has been in existence since 1979 (hosted by TVJ et al, except 2023–24 while in GMA); but E.A.T. (as what i've said before) while with TVJ, was not another version of Eat Bulaga! (same case for Tahanang Pinakamasaya, that's no "EB")

It might take time for this such long comment, it might be "repetitive" statements as well; but please consider these (my) "specified" points. Just advising; that's a friendly advice to readers.—Raider000 (talk) 03:59, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Either weak oppose or moderate support for now. [Removed some points.] Same explanations for the former; but i'm also agree with later ones by other voters. If merging is to be considered: there would be a history section for EB while in TAPE (until Jan. 2024; including that with different hosts since mid-2023), another for EB while in TVJ Productions (since Jan. 2024; including short-lived E.A.T. as a predecessor of TV5's "EB" considering the fact that while its production was totally different from that of GMA's "EB", TVJ used E.A.T while usage of Eat Bulaga! was the subject of the court case).—Raider000 (talk) 05:10, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Strong Oppose and Comment. Even after the court ruling, E.A.T. has a similar, but different segments. Like Raider000 said, "TV5's E.A.T. was a short-lived program aired while there was a legal battle and technically, had no connection with the production of GMA's (and TAPE's) Eat Bulaga! at the time." Merging the articles into one would make it a lot more confusing for readers. So, I would say keep those articles as separate as possible. Support and Comment. I just retracted my other argument after learning more about the information. Within the longtime histories between TVJ and TAPE Inc., I suppose that those two articles has to merge into one going forward. I suggest that instead of putting I agree and I disagree, Support and Oppose is a better way of voting whether those articles have to be merged or not. If supported by the majority, then those articles have to be merged. If opposed by the majority, then keep it separated.172.58.27.228 (talk) 21:49, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Support Although, it is a different name but the host clearly implies during their first episode on TV5 that, "Ang title po namin ay ang title kung ano ang alam niyong tawag sa amin". [2](which is Eat Bulaga)

The audience, the contestants thank the host and their program "Eat Bulaga" even though they used the name E.A.T.

Mayor Bullet even said that "Kahit baliktarin natin, hindi talaga sila pwedeng mawala, and 'Eat Bulaga' can’t live without TVJ, and [...]TVJ also cannot live without 'Eat Bulaga," [3]

So, it's still part of the history of Eat Bulaga, so it must be merged.

And hoping that the votes that said agree will be counted so that the decision of merging will be ASAP KnowlegdeFam (talk) 02:56, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

E.A.T. being philosophically Eat Bulaga doesn't make it factually Eat Bulaga! pre-court decision. Tagaaplaya (talk) 16:31, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Support To be completely fair, there is a bit of a precedent in the form of Atari with separate pages for all its numerous subsidiaries and corporate incarnations, but in the case of EB having separate articles for both incarnations of the show may be a source of confusion, especially as both the TAPE and TVJ incarnations had some shared history between each other. I am basing this on the fact that the page for Indian Motocycle Manufacturing Company has mentions of how the brand was passed around through different owners but it's all concisely incorporated into one page. Blake Gripling (talk) 03:27, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

But the brand, specifically the trademark Eat Bulaga!, was not passed to E.A.T during its run from 2023 - Jan 5, 2024. Without the brand in that specific period, it's not Eat Bulaga! Tagaaplaya (talk) 18:49, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Additional comment. We should give it a week few days before it will be the time to close this discussion. Here's a link on how to close this discussion: WP:MERGECLOSE. 172.58.27.228 (talk) 04:27, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your clarification.

Hopefully the part of Tape Bulaga (without TVJ) will be moved to the new article about "Tahanang Pinakamasaya" to avoid confusion.

Atty Buko. (Legal counsel of TVJ), said that they can legally use "Eat Bulaga", but TVJ insists to wait for the court ruling to avoid conflict. [4]

Nevertheless, Let's wait for user @RapMonstaXY and other editors to close the merger KnowlegdeFam (talk) 12:05, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose It's to my understanding that we can't merge those two articles. Within the neutrality of Wikipedia, I argued that the history of Eat Bulaga! and E.A.T. together while removing the existence of TAPE Inc. would create such biases, and it will also be a one-sided article. It wouldn't make sense to merge it ASAP. 172.58.27.205 (talk) 08:04, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Still oppose. What makes a TV show, that TV show is its name. It's important enough that TVJ sued to have Eat Bulaga!'s name as theirs. TV shows are not like persons, organizations or corporations, who can still be the same entities and claim continuity even with multiple name changes. With that, no court ruling can reverse the historical fact that TAPE's iteration (sanctioned by law or not) was the de facto Eat Bulaga! from June 2023 - January 2024. This also means that E.A.T. was not Eat Bulaga because it was not named Eat Bulaga! from July 2023 to January 2024. Merging Eat Bulaga! with E.A.T. retcons what actually happened in real history. TVJ fought for the ownership of the name (trademark), not the production, in court, because who carries the name is Eat Bulaga, de facto or de jure.Tagaaplaya (talk) 14:41, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

I disagree with the merging because it will appear biased towards TAPE since TAPE also used the title 'Eat Bulaga,' and moreover, the program 'E.A.T.' has no connection to TAPE. Another reason is, this goes against Wikipedia's principle of being fair to both sides. To avoid biases, please oppose the merging of these two articles: Eat Bulaga and E.A.T.. Jumark27 (talk) 21:47, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I disagree with this. it won’t really be biased to TAPE, or APT. Also, TVJ (with Jeny Fere) filed an unfair competition case with TAPE. This was played fair. With the IPO decision and TAPE’s compliance. 158.62.39.36 (talk) 18:38, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

This is how it should be done:

• Eat Bulaga! is the article title of the current TV5 program produced by TVJ. E.A.T. (TV program) redirects to his article. All history when TVJ produced the show, including editions from July 1, 2023 of the show aired on TV5, should be here.
• Tahanang Pinakamasaya is the article title of the current GMA program produced by TAPE. If you guys wanna redirect something like Eat Bulaga! (TAPE) or Eat Bulaga! (GMA) you are free to do so. The history of the TAPE produced program, including when TVJ were the hosts, should be on this article, from the start in 1979 up to now.
• Create Eat Bulaga! (disambiguation) linking to both programs.

Howard the Duck (talk) 22:52, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

You simply desire to create confusion because of your illusion. You want to forget that TAPE Inc. was once a part of the history of 'Eat Bulaga,' even during times when they debated the program's name in the court. We should know the fact that 'E.A.T.' was never ever become a part of the history of 'Eat Bulaga,' hence it cannot be included in the Wikipedia article about 'Eat Bulaga.' I hope you understand this to avoid confusion and prevent bias that contradicts Wikipedia's principles. That is why I am very disagree with this merging. Jumark27 (talk) 05:28, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

On my proposal, no merging shall be done. I know there is am education crisis, but wow. TAPE and TVJ programs each have their own articles. TVJ gets dibs on Eat Bulaga due to WP:AT. Howard the Duck (talk) 12:41, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Agree. The name E.A.T. was created as a temporary title for the show that TVJ brought from GMA to TV5 while actively fighting for the original title in court. Since they won, they scrapped the temporary title and are now back to using Eat Bulaga!. They basically are the same show.

But we should also include in the history section the odd period when there basically were two versions of the show: the TAPE-produced Eat Bulaga!, and E.A.T. airing at the same time. Astro.nick20 (talk) 10:48, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

@Howard the Duck But that doesn't mean that we can change the history that there was once a program on Philippine television titled "E.A.T.". And we cannot change the history that TAPE Inc. was once still used the title "Eat Bulaga" after TVJ left TAPE Inc.. The court decision cannot erase and change the history. And one of the principles of Wikipedia is transparency. That is am totally disagree with merging of these two articles: Eat Bulaga and E.A.T.. I hope you, you will understand that it is better to be transparent to avoid biases between two sides about this issue. And that is the principle of Wikipedia. Jumark27 (talk) 12:57, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

That there was once a program on Philippine television titled "E.A.T", which is now renamed "Eat Bulaga". This was like renamings of PBA teams, like from San Miguel Beermen to Magnolia Beverage Masters then back to San Miguel Beermen. TAPE's show is at Tahanang Pinakamasaya and will have Eat Bulaga's history from 1979 until 2023. The Eat Bulaga article will encompass TV5's program EAT, then was renamed Eat Bulaga. If anything that should have been done, This should have been an WP:RM at the "E.A.T." article... or even a straight up move as the TV5 show is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Howard the Duck (talk) 22:58, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

@Howard the Duck "E.A.T." is de facto not "Eat Bulaga", because the "Eat Bulaga" at that time was already existed through TAPE's iteration during June 2023 to 1st week of January 2024. And that is the history of "Eat Bulaga" that we need to recognize. We cannot change the history, our goal as Wikipedian editors is to remain transparent and avoid biases. Court's decision cannot and never ever can affect to change the principle's of Wikipedia. And do not compare "Eat Bulaga" to "San Miguel Beermen" because those are different matters. "Eat Bulaga" is facing a naming dispute between TVJ and TAPE, but "San Miguel Beermen" did not face any naming dispute because they only aimed to diversify their brand image within the PBA. So, it's far-fetched to compare "Eat Bulaga" to "San Miguel Beermen". That is why I will still be disagree for merging these two articles: "Eat Bulaga" and "E.A.T.". I hope you will understand why I am so much disagree. Jumark27 (talk) 03:55, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

TVJ's "E.A.T." was renamed into "Eat Bulaga".

TAPE's "Eat Bulaga" was renamed into "Tahanang Pinakamasaya"

These are renamings (or rebrandings), and not totally new programs with new identities. If it was indeed new identities, then a separate article can be argued (e.g. TVJ's "E.A.T." vs. TAPE's then named "Eat Bulaga"). But since these are renames, what should have been done is to rename "Eat Bulaga" to "Tahanang Pinakamasaya", and "E.A.T." to "Eat Bulaga". Howard the Duck (talk) 19:18, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

The "renaming" of E.A.T. to Eat Bulaga! heavily relied on the court decision. We should present E.A.T. as it was when we still don't know what the court decision would be because that's how it really happened in history. Do not retcon what actually happened from July 2023 to Jan 2024. And let me remind you that court decision is not yet final. It can still be reversed by a higher court. When that happens, does it mean E.A.T. was not again Eat Bulaga! for you? Tagaaplaya (talk) 12:02, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

The TVJ-produced program airing on TV5 and CNN Phililippines that was entitled "E.A.T." then and "Eat Bulaga" now are the same thing. The TAPE-produced program airing on GMA that was entitled "Eat Bulaga" then and "Tahanang Pinakamasaya" now, and previously aired on RPN and ABS-CBN are the same thing. We do not need a court to tell us that. Howard the Duck (talk) 21:10, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

We do not need a court to tell us that? Then we have no basis at all to call E.A.T Eat Bulaga. And this discussion should have not started in the first place after the court ruling. And by the way, the court decision doesn't include ruling if E.A.T is Eat Bulaga. And TVJ never directly claimed that E.A.T is Eat Bulaga. The interpretation of E.A.T being Eat Bulaga is based on nothing. Tagaaplaya (talk) 11:41, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

If a higher court reverses a lower court's ruling, we'd have to know then what comes next, and what would have happened to this article. If there would be two programs using the "Eat Bulaga" name, we'd probably need a disambiguation as the primary topic. The TVJ-produced program, if it is renamed, would have its article be renamed, keeping the same "lineage" from when it began on July 1, 2023. If the TAPE-produced program reverts to "Eat Bulaga" and is the only show using that name, it gets dibs on that name.

Again, this is what should be done:

• TVJ-produced program that is airing on TV5 and CNN Philippines starting July 1, 2023 as "EAT" and now called "Eat Bulaga" is one program. Its scope should be from when they began looking for a network to carry their show. That should be dealt with one article, excluding any other daughter articles.
• TAPE-produced program that is airing on GMA and previously on RPN and ABS-CBN, previously called "Eat Bulaga" and now called "Tahanang Pinakamasaya", is one program. Its scope should be from when it began its show in 1979 until now when it was renamed. That should be dealt with one article, excluding any other daughter articles.

Howard the Duck (talk) 21:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Those are exactly the reasons why solely relying on the court for "truthness" of which is Eat Bulaga is problematic. We should favor what happened in actuality because that's an unchanging fact. Tagaaplaya (talk) 11:45, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

It was named as such because the producers can't claim at the time. And we should record as such that it wasn't Eat Bulaga! And let me remind people that merging Eat Bulaga with E.A.T. now is careless because the court decision maybe executory now but it is not yet final and is still under appeal. We don't want to be put in a position in the future that we undo the merging when the next higher court or the Supreme Court sided with TAPE, Inc. Tagaaplaya (talk) 04:20, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Even if the courts make a final decision regarding the ownership of TVJ in the title "Eat Bulaga," if they agree to merge the two articles: "Eat Bulaga" and "E.A.T.," it would appear that they are denying the existence of the "E.A.T." program in the history of Philippine television and that TAPE Inc. once used the name "Eat Bulaga," even if it violates copyright infringements and trademarks of TVJ. That is why I still disagree and will still disagree with the merging. Jumark27 (talk) 04:30, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Agree. I don't understand why they are so biased with the law and completely disregard actual history. The court decision only covers legitimacy not factuality. Tagaaplaya (talk) 05:02, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Agree 2001:2042:33D7:FC00:6973:C23E:9DB4:35B (talk) 12:28, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

If you agree, you are denying the fact that the temporary use of TAPE Inc. in the name "Eat Bulaga" did not happen, and you are also denying that there was no "E.A.T." TV program that existed in the world of Philippine television. Therefore, the content of the "Eat Bulaga" article on Wikipedia would appear to be misleading, which goes against its principles of being transparent and free from biases. Jumark27 (talk) 04:22, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Comment. Can we at least postpone the decision to merge E.A.T and Eat Bulaga! or not until TAPE Inc. stopped appealing or the case had been decided with finality by the Supreme Court. While Marikina RTC's decision favors TVJ now, it's subject for review by higher courts and so can still change. Tagaaplaya (talk) 04:28, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

For me, it's wrong to have a proposal for merging these two articles on Wikipedia. The decisions of the court have no real relevance when it comes to the history of the program "Eat Bulaga" if it is to be placed on Wikipedia. History cannot be altered even by the Supreme Court. We should acknowledge that the "E.A.T." program existed in the history of Philippine television, and there should be an article for "E.A.T." There should also be a part for TAPE in the history of "Eat Bulaga", so the contributions of TAPE to the article "Eat Bulaga" on Wikipedia cannot be erased. As Wikipedia editors, we should maintain transparency and remain unbiased, siding only with the truth. This is the principle of Wikipedia, fairness to all sides. Therefore, we should oppose the merging even if the court decisions become final. History is history and can never be altered by anyone. Jumark27 (talk) 04:40, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

I agree. 158.62.39.36 (talk) 18:41, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

I think this discussion has gone way out of hand. It seems like the fact of the matter is, the version of Eat Bulaga! produced by TAPE from 2023 to 2024 was the same program as before with new hosts, and as a result, the previous hosts organized a facsimile of the show on TV5 called E.A.T. while filing a claim for the Eat Bulaga! trademark and format in court. When the court sided with the hosts and ordered an injunction against TAPE, Eat Bulaga! was immediately considered cancelled and then revived by TV5 the next day with the original hosts, while TAPE launched a replacement show entitled Tahanang Pinakamasaya (Naturally, this also means that claiming these shows had a de facto and a de jure run sounds rather ridiculous; aren’t these specific legal terms?). Ultimately, I think that this is the first time in the history of television anywhere in the world where there was such a dispute on the identity of a major entertainment show. It would be like if, for example, NBC fired the entire cast of Saturday Night Live and they retaliated by organizing a program called Night on CBS or something. I think this needs attention from experts on trademark law, television, and God knows what else. Image2012 (talk) 07:07, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

I introduced the concept of "de facto and de jure" run of show here. I really think it's accurate even I don't think it's necessary to mention. But it was necessary to mention at the time when confused (or even unintentionally biased) editors were so adamant to "overcorrect" after the court decision was released and were refusing to accept that GMA Network & TAPE were able to air their version of Eat Bulaga! in factuality. And I guess it worked. No need to mention it now. Tagaaplaya (talk) 12:43, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 January 2024

Update logo§– Gabriel Marollano (talk) 10:35, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 15:03, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 January 2024 (2)

Name Change To E.A.T... Bulaga! §— Gabriel Marollano (talk) 10:54, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 15:03, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

De facto Eat Bulaga

To avoid edit warring, can we agree that GMA's iteration from 2023-2024 is de facto despite court ruling. This doesn't mean that E.A.T from 2023-2024 is the de jure iteration. Granting E.A.T as the legitimate Eat Bulaga! from 2023-2024 is not covered by the court ruling. E.A.T is just E.A.T and it stopped existing after its final episode on January 5, 2024. Tagaaplaya (talk) 15:32, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

I agree 👍🏻 Jumark27 (talk) 21:53, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

I could agree on that. 172.58.27.158 (talk) 00:44, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Okay, I don’t understand why a TV show is considered to have a de facto airing run and a de jure run. I don’t think these terms are appropriate to use in this scenario. Image2012 (talk) 08:38, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

To still record what happened in fact regardless of legality. Tagaaplaya (talk) 04:10, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Eat Bulaga!

An article that you have been involved in editing—Eat Bulaga!—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. 172.58.27.228 (talk) 03:24, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Eat Bulaga Myanmar

I don't know your reasons why you want to include "Eat Bulaga Myanmar" on related shows to Eat Bulaga, well in fact, we don't have any updates if it is still ongoing, postponed or it will not push through anymore. I wish you give some updates here, if TVJ decides not to push through with this, let's refrain from adding it to Wikipedia as a related show of Eat Bulaga, to avoid misleading information on this Wikipedia page. Jumark27 (talk) 15:59, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 January 2024

Can you change the language from Tagalog to Filipino? Filipino is the national language. And TV5 series wikis says filipino and not tagalog 216.247.14.210 (talk) 03:55, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

 Partly done: since "Tagalog" is unsourced, I removed it from the article without replacing it with "Filipino" (which is also sourced). M.Bitton (talk) 23:53, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Title Card Replacement (Thirdie Ogena)

please change your uploaded title card where Eat... Bulaga! is currently using a colorful background (muti-color) instead of a gray background since you uploaded it in January 6,2023.

Thank you. Nestor i. sangalang (talk) 11:41, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Verifiability/Removal of Unsourced Material

Before adding a tag, at least consider the following alternatives, one of which may prove much more constructive: Do not use this tag because you don't understand a statement, or feel that "non-expert" readers are likely to be confused. Use {{Clarify}}, {{Explain}}, {{Confusing}}, {{Examples}}, {{Why}} or {{Non sequitur}}, as appropriate, instead. If the content is nonsense or is unlikely to be true, be bold and delete it! Do not tag controversial material about living people that is unsourced or poorly sourced. Remove it immediately! Per WP:DIARY, do not tag excessively trivial claims. Remove them. If you are sure the statement you want to tag is not factual, even if it does not come under either of the preceding headings, it may be more appropriate to simply remove the text (delete it!). Be sure to add a suitable edit summary, such as "Very doubtful – please add a citation if you return the content". If the original statement was accurate after all, this gives someone the chance to put it back, hopefully with a proper citation this time. If a statement sounds plausible, and is consistent with other statements in the article, but you doubt that it is totally accurate, then consider making a reasonable effort to find a reference yourself. In the process, you may end up confirming that the statement needs to be edited or deleted to better reflect the best knowledge about the topic. If an article, or a section within an article, is under-referenced, then consider adding an {{Unreferenced}}, {{Refimprove}}, or {{Unreferenced section}} tag to the article or section concerned – these tags allow you to indicate more systemic problems to the page. A reference at the end of a paragraph typically refers to the whole paragraph, and similarly a reference at the end of a sentence may almost always be taken as referring to the whole sentence. If a particular part of a sentence or paragraph seems to require a separate citation, or looks as if it may have been inserted into the text at a sentence or paragraph level, try to check the original reference rather than adding tags to text that may already be well referenced. The extra parameters available in the {{Citation needed span}} template may allow you to indicate which section you want to refer to. Do not insert a "Citation needed" tag to make a point, to "pay back" another editor, or because you "don't like" a subject, a particular article, or another editor. Nestor i. sangalang (talk) 15:59, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Vandalism - Jumark27 user

The user Jumark27 is warned about inappropriate editing on a page related to vandalism, and repeating the issue will result in a report on their account page. Nestor i. sangalang (talk) 14:56, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Revisions

I firmly believe that my revision dated 26th of January 2024 was of much better quality than the succeeding revisions. Why was it reverted so much? Image2012 (talk) 06:58, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Removal of Merge Suggestion Template Without Final Consensus

Whoever removed the merge template in the article DID NOT read the WP:MERGE properly. Please put it back until the discussion is closed, and whether or not it will be merged. 107.185.128.255 (talk) 04:31, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 February 2024

The merge template needs to be put back. The discussion for Merger of Eat Bulaga! and E.A.T. has not been closed just yet. In accordance to WP:MERGE, the merge discussion has to be closed with final consensus, and then the merger will go in effect or not. 107.185.128.255 (talk) 04:44, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Correct me if I'm wrong --

As an uninvolved user, it seems there is no clear consensus on a discussion that has only been idle for nearly a week now. (Or since 23 January if you don't count the excess commentary.) Thus, the discussion is likely to close soon. In this event, WP:NOCON (and WP:NOCON?) states that no changes should be made.
— Urro^{[talk][edits]} 17:48, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

@Urropean I was having the same thought about that merger discussion, it seems there wasn't any proper consensus on why they agree to merge those two articles. One question. Should I closed this discussion or request for closure? 107.185.128.255 (talk) 07:08, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

I recommend reviewing WP:MERGECLOSE:

"In more unclear, controversial cases, the determination that a consensus to merge has or has not been achieved should be made by an editor who is neutral and not directly involved in the merge proposal or the discussion. The discussion can be posted at WP:Proposed mergers to get some help. If necessary, a request that an administrator, who is not involved, close the discussion can be made at the Requests for Closure noticeboard."

If you see fit, you can make a request for closure. Otherwise -- or if you'd like for the discussion to continue -- you can make a request for comment to get more feedback on the conversation.

Upon further review of my own: I can't say whether it should be closed now or later. It's been inactive but, as someone who has stayed out of the discussion, I don't know if enough has been talked about yet. If you'd like me personally to help decide, just let me know and I can look into it more.

So,  Done for now. I recant my original conclusion and say that the merge template should remain until the discussion is officially closed.

P.S., I'm new to Wikipedia myself, but am merely referring you to the relevant meta pages. If you're ever unsure about how to do something, there's probably a page for it. I usually just search online, for instance: Close merge discussion Wikipedia. Any page in the namespace Wikipedia (aka with "Wikipedia:" in the title) should be of use. :)
— Urro^{[talk][edits]} 13:06, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

E.A.T. is just an interim title for TVJ's Eat Bulaga show due to a legal dispute with TAPE Inc., which favors them. The court ruling states TVJ was the originator, E.A.T. should be merge to EAT Bulaga page. Nestor i. sangalang (talk) 14:07, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your input, but this is not the place to continue the discussion, nor do I know enough about the topic to contribute. I hope the discussion comes to a close soon enough.
— Urro^{[talk][edits]} 14:18, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

@Urropean Thanks. That's very helpful. 107.185.128.255 (talk) 01:03, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Please be okay with the merger of the two pages to avoid misrepresentation since TVJ owns the rights of Eat Bulaga as per court ruling. Nestor i. sangalang (talk) 15:30, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Please don't continue this discussion going forward. I'm leaving it to the uninvolved editors by requesting a closure of merge discussion. If there is proper consensus, then the merge will proceed. If there's no consensus, then the merge will not proceed. 107.185.128.255 (talk) 02:49, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Adding "Lenten Drama Special" portion

Can we move the portion about "Lenten Drama Special" in this article? Currently, the portion can be found in TAPE Inc.'s wiki article entitled "Eat Bulaga! Lenten Drama Specials". EJA9398 (talk) 06:19, 9 March 2024 (UTC)