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In french and in spanish sheets and leaves are called the same, but in the case of the pastry the correct english translation is sheet not leaf. "Hoja" can be a leaf from a tree or a sheet of paper. In the case of the pastry, because it's made of many thin layers (thin as sheets) it's named mil (thousand) hojas (sheets). Thousand leaves simply doesn't make sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.214.250.173 (talk) 05:13, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, took the liberty of making the above correction, the name is thousand sheets

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Countries not grouped correctly (wrong regions)[edit]

Hello, I did not check the whole thing diligently, but Slovakia definitely does NOT belong with Balkans Countries - we are located south of Poland, north of Hungary (which itself lies north of Balkans). Pool us with Czechia or with Hungary - that makes both cultural and geographical sense, please. 2A01:C846:1A03:400:3DD2:408B:CCF0:9A58 (talk) 17:58, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Snow puffies[edit]

@Chedlund808: -- the problem with the Snow puffies entry is not that you don't have sources. You have added plenty of sources, and all of them confirm that this is a specialty of one particular bakery, not something that's considered part of Hawaiian cuisine in general. And surely you are joking in calling this minor variant of a French pastry an "indigenous peoples' dish". --Macrakis (talk) 15:00, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If someone in Hawaii was trying to figure out what a snow puffy actually was, which are more popular than you think otherwise there wouldn't be articles about it, they wouldn't know. The very definition of custard sandwich between puff pastry and dusted with sugar isn't enough?! It's like saying the malasadas aren't Hawaiian either, although it's associated with one bakery. There are many other countries listed that a claim the pastry without citation. Are they "popular" or even known? And how are King's Arthur and Martha Stewart recipes for the US counts as a source?! You've got to be kidding me. Chedlund808 (talk) 18:31, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The irony of the "indigenous people' dish"... They are the words used by another user who decided to reverse a merger that I thought was appropriate. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Purple_sweet_potato_haupia_pie&action=history Chedlund808 (talk) 21:23, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I see no evidence that they are widely popular in Hawaii in general. I just see evidence that there is one bakery that has a funny name for a minor variant of mille-feuille, which is not encyclopedic information. This is quite different from the situation with malasadas, where one of the books about Hawaiian cuisine (Laudan) has a whole chapter about them. I see that the Lonely Planet Honolulu mentions Snow Puffies, but again referring to the same bakery. It sounds to me like you're not very familiar with Wikipedia conventions around what counts as encyclopedic and what doesn't -- simply providing a definition for something for the convenience of travelers to Waialua isn't enough -- people can use Google or whatever for that. --Macrakis (talk) 16:22, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Again, if you're going to apply this encyclopedic standard, you should delete these other countries mentioned. There's no proof of their supposed popularity or existence. My contribution is for those who had a snow puffy from this isolated bakery who now make this mille-feuille variant in their homes, which is popularly done and not as some sort of novelty. I thought Wikipedia would be more open. If I wanted something a bit more rigid like your thinking, I'd go to Britannica. This sort of gatekeeping is what keeps people ignorant. Chedlund808 (talk) 17:42, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I certainly agree that many of the "national" sections are problematic. But all of them seem to be talking about widely-known variants, even if they are not well-sourced.
But for now, the Hawaii section is particularly egregious, and reads more like a promotion of a particular bakery than encyclopedic content.
I think it would in fact make more sense to talk about the variants in one place, not divided by country. Maybe I'll do that one of these days.
And the parts that just talk about variant names should either be deleted (WP is not a multilingual dictionary) or summarized in one paragraph.
As for WP's general notion of encyclopedic content, that's a more general discussion which you should have on our policy pages. In particular, see Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. --Macrakis (talk) 19:33, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for removing that section. However, keep in mind that we try to be civil around here, an the edit comment "Removing snow puffies because of a user with no good-faith" can be inteterpreted as a personal attack. --Macrakis (talk) 19:40, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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