Talk:Post Consumer Brands

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Two old favorite post cereals that I hear the most about is Crispy Critters featuring Linus The Lionhearted and Rice Krinkles. Both cereals are not made anymore by Post. Both were loved by many kids in the 1960's.

Toasties ARE discontinued.[edit]

Please do not remove the edits dealing with Post Toasties being discontinued in 2006. This information has been verified by Post via email and also by a personal phone call to the Post consumer help line (1-800-323-0768 Consumer Relations Center is open weekdays from 9am to 9pm, Eastern Standard Time).

The production of Toasties ceased in April of 2006 but it took until January of 2007 in most states before the last boxes finally left store shelves. This is what causes some confusion since the time from the of end of production to actual unavailability at the local supermarket was quite large and unfortunatley too late for people to realize that the cereal was no longer being produced. They are no longer being marketed in any real way - other than a slot on the Post/Kraft website.

As a follow-up I have sent a second email to Post/Kraft asking when Toasties will be removed from their website or at least acknowledged that they are no longer in production, no response as been given - I will post their repsonse here when I receive one. --Dleigh32 01:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That is not an acceptable standard for verifiable source, IMO. Until such time as there is some public announcement, it should remain in the current column. older ≠ wiser 01:10, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree. That falls under the category of personal research and thus not a reliable source for the article. Seems weird since you got the info from Post directly, but until a public announcement is made and reported in a source deemed reliable the article should not be changed.THX1136 (talk) 14:44, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Response from Kraft - sort of[edit]

Just got this response from Kraft and thought I would post it. I had asked when Post would put something on their site stating publically that Toasties had been discontinued.

Per email: Thank you for visiting http://www.kraftfoods.com/.

I wanted to write you back to let you know that I've shared your comments with our Web Development Team to investigate the issue.

Please log on to our site in the near future, as our team is working diligently to get this issue resolved.

It was great hearing from you, and remember we're always updating our site so visit us again soon!

Kim McMiller Associate Director, Consumer Relations --Dleigh32 23:19, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Post Foods[edit]

As the official name of the company is now Post Foods, that should also be the name of the article. Steelbeard1 (talk) 17:47, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Company is now Post Holdings. Steelbeard1 (talk) 03:43, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Post Holdings or Post Foods?[edit]

Should the name of this article be the official name of Post Holdings or the casual name of Post Foods? Steelbeard1 (talk) 18:02, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Post Holdings as that is the official name of the company. Steelbeard1 (talk) 18:02, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Post Foods, we go by common name in most cases. For example, Walmart, the company, is Wal-Mart Stores, Inc., but the article title is Walmart. Toyota, the company, is Toyota Motor Corporation, but the article title is Toyota. Kraft, the company, is Kraft Foods Group Inc., but the article title is Kraft Foods. Doubtless there may be examples going the other way as well, but in general, I think using the common name over the official name is more closely aligned with long-standing practices. older ≠ wiser 18:28, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Post Foods. As I indicated when I moved the page, it has been made clear that the "official" name is in no way necessarily the correct title for the article. Post refers to themselves as "Post Foods", as that is their public corporate identity. 128.151.71.16 (talk) 20:00, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Didn't realize I wasn't logged in. Previous comment is mine. Rhindle The Red (talk) 20:13, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the Post official web site, they call the cereal company Post Foods LLC. So I changed my mind. Let's make the article Post Foods. Steelbeard1 (talk) 22:34, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The holding company is corporate entity and has stock traded on NYSE. Post Foods LLC is essentially the US business. The holding company also owns Post Foods Canada. older ≠ wiser 01:21, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The official name of the company is Post Holdings. The company is publicly traded under the ticker 'POST' and is incorporated as Post Holdings, Inc. Post Holdings is a holding company that owns Post Foods LLC, Post Foods Canada, Attune Foods, Premier Nutrition Corporation, Dakota Growers Pasta Company, Golden Boy Foods and Dymatize Enterprises. Post Foods LLC is not the same as Post Holdings and is not the public corporate identity. Post Foods is Post Holdings' US branded cereal business under the Post brand. Post Holdings owns a portfolio of companies in which each company has their own unique identity that is separate from Post Holdings as the owner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.51.184.30 (talk) 19:22, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Split proposal 13 February 2014[edit]

Post Foods → Post Holdings – The official name of the company is Post Holdings, not Post Foods. The company is publicly traded under the ticker 'POST' and is incorporated as Post Holdings, Inc. Post Holdings is a holding company that owns Post Foods LLC, Post Foods Canada, Attune Foods, Premier Nutrition Corporation, Dakota Growers Pasta Company, Golden Boy Foods and Dymatize Enterprises. Post Foods is not the same as Post Holdings and is not the public corporate identity. Post Foods is Post Holdings' US branded cereal business under the Post brand. Post Holdings owns a portfolio of companies in which each company has their own unique identity that is separate from Post Holdings as the owner. 209.51.184.30 (talk) 15:01, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Survey[edit]

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

Split split the article in two, one about the company Post Foods, another about its corporate parent Post Holdings. -- 70.24.244.161 (talk) 04:00, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Split Yes, I agree because Post Foods has the history regarding the cereal operations. Post Holdings is about the food conglomerate. Steelbeard1 (talk) 13:19, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

SplitThe article should be split as described in the first response. Seems reasonable as some folks may be looking for the "cereal" company and not the parent - especially in the US.THX1136 (talk) 14:49, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

Any additional comments:

Markup error[edit]

There's something seriously wrong with the column layout formatting at the end of the article. Can someone who understands the markup syntax please fix that? —BarrelProof (talk) 03:27, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

External Links[edit]

Most of the external links need to be moved to the Post Holdings page as they are relevant to Post Holdings, not Post Foods. (They are subsidiaries of Post Holdings). The following can stay: Post Foods US Official Site Post Foods Canada Official Site MOM Brands Official Site

While the others should be moved to the Post Holdings page: Post Holdings Official Site Attune Foods Official Site Michael Foods Official Site Dymatize Official Site PowerBar Official Site Premier Nutrition Official Site Supreme Protein Official Site Dakota Growers Official Site Golden Boy Foods Official Site — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpeoysetr (talk • contribs) 21:44, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Move content[edit]

The box at the bottom of the page under References that says Post Holdings at the top and shows a list of Post Holdings' subsidiaries and brands should be moved to the Post Holdings page, it should not be on the Post Foods page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpeoysetr (talk • contribs) 15:02, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Non-free logo use in infobox[edit]

@Steelbeard1: File:Post logo new.png is a non-free logo and Wikipedia requires that each usage of a non-free logo satisfy all 10 of the non-free content criteria listed at WP:NFCCP. The file currently does not have the separate, specific non-free use rationale required by WP:NFCC#10c for this particular usage so it may be removed per WP:NFCCE. It is the burden of the editor wanting to use non-free content in an article to provide a valid rationale which complies with WP:NFCC. Note simply adding a rationale does not automatically make it valid; it only prevents a file from being deleted per WP:F6 or removed per NFCCE. There are other possible problems regarding the file's usage which have to do with No. 17 of WP:NFC#UUI. Generally, it's considered acceptable to use a logo of a parent organization in the stand-alone article about the parent, but not in articles about any subsdiaries (child entities). The parent in this case seems to be Post Holdings so an article specific to Post Cereals should be used in this article if such branding exists. For example, something like the "Post Consumer Brands" logo used here might exist for Post Cereals. If specific branding doesn't exist, then using the parent's logo is not automatically assumed to be NFCC compliant. So, if you feel non-free use is justified and you can write the appropriate rationale, then please do so before re-adding the logo. Then, it's usage can be further discussed at WP:FFD to determine if it is NFCC compliant. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:26, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Both the Post Holdings parent and the Post Foods subsidiary use the same logo. That logo appears on Post Foods cereal as seen on their website here. Post Foods and MOM Brands (another subsidiary of Post Holdings) have been combined into one business unit called Post Consumer Brands (see the press release here). However, currently Post Foods products and MOM Brands products continue to be branded and sold with their respective legacy logos. -- Mpeoysetr (talk) 14:44, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect error[edit]

For some reason the term 'Michael Foods' is redirecting to this page. It should not be redirecting here. There is no Michael Foods page. Can someone please fix this redirect error? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jheisposthold (talk • contribs) 15:23, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Though this is an old comment, I'll say for posterity that Michael Foods is a company that was acquired by Post in 2014, a fact which was not present in the article until today, so don't go deleting the redirect if you happen across this comment in the future. /Tpdwkouaa (talk) 01:50, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

1929 Needs Cleanup / Elaboration.[edit]

The paragraph that describes events of 1929 is simultaneously repetitive and inadequate. It seems 5 important things happened: 1) Merger with Birdseye's Frozen 2) a new "General Foods" comglomerate strategy 3) taking/changing names of GF company or corporation 4) and somehow this is "by far" important (unsourced) and 5) involves the famous stockbroker EF Hutton. Can someone tell the story both more succinctly (less repetition of GF name) and in greater detail why becoming a General Motors of Foods with EF Hutton was a big deal in the era of General Motors and AlfredSloan)?KevinCuddeback (talk) 13:59, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ralcorp[edit]

Ralcorp is introduced as an apparent owner without explanation. The first we hear of them is when they plan to spin off post foods. Reader had not heard of Ralcorp prior to this 47.222.42.229 (talk) 14:46, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]