Talk:Sesame chicken

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Deletions by 24.185.105.199[edit]

Do not remove editing comments unless they have been addressed. That is very bad practice. Ketchup/catsup is indeed used in General Tso's chicken sauce by many Chinese chefs in North America, as sources show. Badagnani 01:30, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment was addressed then removed, what is your damage?24.185.105.199 01:38, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The use of the term "nonsense" to refer to a correct statement was uncalled for and un-Wikipedian. Please restore the editing comment pending proper evaluation here, and consideration of sources. Please show you are able to edit in a thoughtful, considered manner. This would also involve not violating our 3RR rule. Badagnani 01:41, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Further deletions by 24.185.105.19[edit]

The text "although in buffet-style restaurants it generally appears as chicken pieces only" was accurate, and the added "at table" is un-idiomatic, ungrammatical English. Badagnani 01:31, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While the bit about the buffet is accurate, it is also unneeded and redundant, of course a buffet serves buffet style. I removed the nonsense about catsup because it was commented out, inaccurate, and I listed the proper sauce ingredients.24.185.105.199 01:35, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ketchup/catsup is indeed commonly used in General Tso's chicken (though most Americans who consume it don't know that). Sesame chicken is essentially the same recipe. Please restore the comment pending our consideration of sources here. Please also restore the phrase about the buffet, thanks. Badagnani 01:43, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article cleanup[edit]

I've added a photo as requested, and removed the photo request template. As for the ketchup dispute, I've been through about 30 cookbooks and spent a great deal of time at cooksillustrated.com, food.com, and other sites and can find NO evidence at all of tomato use in sesame chicken or general's chicken; just variations on the H2O, vinegar, sugar, sherry, cornstarch combo. If one of you has a source for the ketchup use please cite it (even our article on general's chicken says it is rarely used and that has no cited source either. L0b0t 14:58, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User:Badagnani, I've addressed and removed the comments you've hidden in the article. The comment about Canada is trumped by the world-view template, the article already quite clearly mentions the similarity to general's chicken, and I have added information on the sauce color. More work to follow. In future it would probably be better if you posted on the talkpage rather than inserting hidden comments into the article text. The issues you are trying to raise will be dealt with much faster if we can see the comments on the talk page without having to start editing the article first. Cheers. L0b0t 05:20, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sources don't say the recipe is similar to GTC; they say it is identical, with the only difference of the added sesame seeds. Badagnani 05:25, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Which is what the article already states. You really need to stop being so pedantic. Cheers. L0b0t 13:28, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deletions[edit]

Why was this text removed without comment?

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The dish is meant to be spicy, but today it is often served in a syrupy sauce with almost no spice. Like General Tso's chicken, Sesame chicken does not closely resemble any traditional Chinese dish, and its origins are a mystery.

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Badagnani 22:19, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This seemed to totally contradict. The sentences suggest the origin is a mystery, yet the dish was meant to be spicy? It's questionable since it is claiming an original taste without knowing the origin. Benjwong 22:36, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The only reason I can think of for this text is that if indeed sesame chicken, like General Tso's chicken, has its origin deep in Chinese history (in Hunan cuisine)--as a variation in Hunan cuisine of the original General Tso's chicken--that it also originally had a spicy rather than syrupy, sweet sauce. Is that plausible? The General Tso's chicken says that in its original Hunan-style version, it had no sugar. Badagnani 22:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I like to think of General T chicken as sweet, spicy. And this one as sweet. The history stuff is tough to trace. The article is making a friendly comparison. Ideally they are really really different. Benjwong 22:56, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

syncretic[edit]

The article says this is a "syncretic dish". Can we find a more common word for this? Perhaps hybrid or fusion? RJFJR (talk) 01:24, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]