Talk:Stamppot

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Merge?[edit]

The result is no consensus to merge. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:50, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

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I'm guessing this is the same as Stoemp - which would be the better one to merge to? Is this a Flemish/Dutch difference? FlagSteward 20:26, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's definitely not the same. I'm Dutch and I've never heard of stoemp, while, of course, I do know stamppot. 210.55.206.227 (talk) 09:28, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nee, do not merge. Not the same thing as stamppot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.102.185.86 (talk) 00:34, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I happen to be Dutch and therefore I am quite familiar with stamppot, while I am aware that south of the border it's called stoemp, across the Channel it's called bubble and squeak, and so on. This is just to point out two things, namely that 1) your unawareness is no valid argument to not merge the articles, and that 2) merging one and another by simply redirecting one to the other is probably going to end in tears. I am fairly certain that all of these different dishes have the same origin, while the exact preparation will have diverted somewhat over space (hence the different names and different added vegetables/seasoning) as well as time (since, for instance nowadays we are nutritionally aware of the effects of "overcooking"). However, since none of the articles involved actually explains where mashed potatoes mixed with vegetables originated, and what dish it might have popularly replaced, and since all of these similar articles lack citations, they should probably be reviewed as one, and by an expert too, prior to merging them and setting redirects that would probably only upset reader's feelings unnecessarily. Ultimately we should end up with a single article describing mashed potatoes mixed with vegetables in different cultures, and with all redirects pointing there. --JeR (talk) 03:24, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am porposing a merge in all the languages I know. Many people say they are the same (just google it) and in any case in dutch wikipedia stoemp is just a redirect to stammpot, so it semms to me it is better if we unify them. I made the same proposal in italian and in French (where this has already been discussed in one discussion page, with a belgian guy or lady saying they are the same). if we keep them separated IMHO this will just increase confusion. So I suggest the lowest energy pathway, let's follow dutch wikipedia. The single "mashed potato" article can be a solution, but i think a simple merger for the moment is the easiest strategy.--Alexmar983 (talk) 10:14, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Your logic is good and your solution elegant. I am against merging either into a broader article on mashed potatoes. Oreo Priest ^talk 04:15, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

people agreed also in the discussion page of the food project, together with readers of it.wiki and fr.wiki. I am going to do it in the WE.. I can merge the content and create a redirect on the Stoemp page, but I hope I make no mistake with the right warning/note to put in the discussion pages at the end of the process, that's my first merge on en.wiki. Please take a look and check it if you think it is ok. --Alexmar983 (talk) 14:04, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok I didn't do it because there is a "problem" on fr.wiki (I answered in English there: [1] so for the moment I stop for 7 days.--Alexmar983 (talk) 20:33, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Ratio[edit]

How much potato and how much vegetabls are included?

Half potato and half vegetable, ot a third of each .. or?

Warrington (talk) 18:37, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Most recipes call for at least 2 parts potato to 1 part vegetables, often more(more potato that is) 82.215.51.36 (talk) 21:08, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that was good to know.

Warrington (talk) 22:27, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

Given the word-of-mouth nature of this dish, it is difficult to find many references aside from personal experience of the authors. I have added a reference from a cookbook that covers essentially what stamppot is made of. For this reason I think we should remove the citation warning. Qwilleranfan (talk) 17:53, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Peasant Dish[edit]

What I had originally intended to mean was that it's origins were peasant-born. That is, it was a dish traditionally made by lower-class dutch families (as many potato-based dishes are). I do not have a reference for that, however, so until I find one we'll leave it out. Qwilleranfan (talk) 18:04, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Methods[edit]

no. 3, as it is currently written, stands out as if it is a separate method and looks confusing. I have no intention to change it if it was meant this way, though 145.100.125.133 (talk) 17:47, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Origin[edit]

Its from the war (WW2) when many mouths had to be fed, so they took vegetables and potatoes from what they had, and put them together.