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Recent Web Player Issues[edit]

Someone needs to clean this up. What is 'recent'? Where are users complaining?

VeohTV is malware?[edit]

There is discussion breeding on the internet pertaining to Veoh's ability to delete downloaded files without warning. There's also a section that says they collect credit card information.

From the Privacy Statement:

Veoh privacy statement: "We may collect personally identifiable information from you when you seek access to certain portions of the Veoh Service, publish or download content, and/or register for our services. This information may include, but is not limited to, your name, physical and e-mail addresses, phone and/or fax numbers, Internet address, type of computer and credit card or other payment information, as well as your preferences and usage patterns.

Opinions? Comments? Omegadramon 22:29, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply] 

 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xsleuth (talk • contribs) 00:42, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
ONE of the reasons why VTV is garbage. I don't know if we can still do this on VTV, but you may be able to transfer the files away from it, to prevent deletion. But my files were deleted before I could do this.

-G

why is this shit in the discussion page and not in the wiki itself? this should be brought to the immediate attention of everyone viewing this.

That's why when you DLed something, you should have immediately moved it to a different folder when the DL was complete.

99.149.122.28 (talk) 11:54, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Windows Defender reports malware in the VEOH installation file :

Summary Adware:Win32/OpenCandy is an adware program that may be bundled with certain third-party software installation programs. Some versions of this program may send user-specific information, including a unique machine code, operating system information, locale (country), and certain other information to a remote server without obtaining adequate user consent. These versions are detected by Microsoft’s anti-malware products. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.11.12.189 (talk) 20:02, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My wife just installed Veoh, and it started installing DriverScanner 2011, which caused her alarm and she called me over to look. She insists it didn't ask first. Apparently that's the kind of crap OpenCandy does. Uninstalled DriverScanner immediately, and uninstalled Veoh. It uninstalls in two parts and begs you to not uninstall each time. May not technically be malware, but it's too close for comfort. We're sticking to Netflix and Hulu, they don't pull this kind of bullshit. Beware. 64.83.196.13 (talk) 23:31, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Veoh left a Chrome extension installed that had to be uninstalled within chrome. The extension apparently changed her chrome preferences to open to some Veoh branded search page instead of "open tabs from last time" causing my wife to lose all her tabs. Now THAT is crossing the line into spyware. Fuck Veoh, seriously. 64.83.196.13 (talk) 19:31, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Update #2: Veoh is still spreading diferent adware and spyware with its installed. the 2012 version contains (as per Eset Nod #4) "a variant of Win32/toolbar.zugo" Why there is noone adding this to the main page? --187.146.235.159 (talk) 07:16, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why no article?[edit]

Can someone please explain why this article is not allowed? There are articles for lots of other computer programs, even controversial ones such as Kazaa so I don't understand why not Veoh. I would find an informative article useful right now. --Ishel99 00:27, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  1. This essentially appeared as an advertisement.
  2. Wikipedia articles must be verifiable in reliable published sources.
—Centrx→talk • 04:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree I think that there should be some kind of article about Veoh. It is a very popular website, and I think there should at least be some kind of page about it. I am going to work over this weekend on drafting a comprehensive page about Veoh, and I will post it to the talk section. --Cooleymd 01:38, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please someone make an article about Veoh. It is a very good site for vewing various videos, most of all animation. Everybody loves it! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.24.200.185 (talk • contribs) 23:23, 12 Feb 2007 (UTC)

WP:ILIKEIT is not a valid reason for including an article in Wikipedia --Iamunknown 03:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Youtube is on the wiki. Why not veoh? What kind of nazis ran this place anyhow? Has the wiki got sponsorship from youtube? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 125.238.227.87 (talk • contribs) 17:18, 15 Feb 2007 (UTC)

Cute --Iamunknown 03:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

what is this if not an advertisement: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youtube youtube is:"Invention of the Year (2006)" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Takarada (talk • contribs) 17:22, 15 Feb 2007 (UTC)

Yup. Youtube is the invention of the year, as is clearly verifiable from reliable sources such as, oh, say, TIME magazine. If an article can be written about Veoh with verifiable, reliable sources, I'm sure it'll be kept. --Iamunknown 03:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I came here for an unbiased overview of their downloadable player. The deletion recommendation needs to be removed, people want info. 71.231.13.21 04:53, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia NOT a dumping ground for random information. That said, the article will go through our deletion process, and then a consensual decision will be made. --Iamunknown 05:04, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oh get off it. Wiki is a joke. Veoh needs an extensive article, there's is still much more that is needed to be known about it.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 134.117.157.7 (talk • contribs).
I agree on BOTH accounts.

-G

Looks like all your talk about the great Wikipedia not allowing a Veoh article was entirely POV and wrong. I'm sitting here in 2009 looking at it and wondering why you guys in 2007 couldn't dream of this article existing. And since this article does exist, this talk section shouldn't, or at least it should be archived. Promontoriumispromontorium (talk) 05:30, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Plug ins[edit]

Can someone explain what plug-ins are needed to access this website? Whenever their content is posted on TV Links, it doesn't work. Nqnpipnr 21:39, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, the article needs more information on the technology behind Veoh.

Legality[edit]

Is there any information on how this evades copyright violations? There are a few site users who remove videos after being told they're violating copyrights, but why are some videos (of the same series, for example) allowed when others aren't?

---There's a form thing you have to fill out when you upload something. People probably admit to not owning the rights on the form, state who does, etc. and Veoh allows it.

Reads like an ad for Veoh[edit]

The wiki entry reads like an add for Veoh and could use some major reworking.70.231.255.77 11:42, 29 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, it still reads like adds for this (crappy) site. Guess it pays to advertise on wikipedia. --IceHunter (talk) 00:56, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Controversy"[edit]

This section looks like nothing more than a list of peoples' personal greviances. No evidence is given of any notable controversy, and more than half of it is various complaints about the 5 minute limitation. It would be better to factually describe the consequences of this limitation in the main article, without making it sound like a rant. – Smyth\talk 10:40, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It can be rewriten but should stay.Claycrow 17:48, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, it shouldn't. It's not even accurate. 72.130.138.117 04:31, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is the 5-minute rule still in effect? --68.161.190.195 (talk) 20:54, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, just everyone is too lazy to change it, I don't even edit on Wikipedia hardly ever. --Claycrow (talk) 14:10, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've cut most of this and toned it down significantly, because it read like an unsourced rant. However even the part I've left is inadequately sourced; a random complainer on forums.veoh.com is not a reliable source. If someone has reliable sources documenting a controversy over this issue, it should be used as a reference instead; otherwise this section should probably be removed. --Delirium (talk) 21:55, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I can't get veoh tv to work when I try to login it just resets the information I put in and I have to keep putting in my username and password over and over how can I fix this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xsleuth (talk • contribs) 00:47, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I removed it completely, it's all uncited speculation, looks like it's been here for a while looking at the date stamp on the comments above. Alastairward (talk) 22:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

as per January 2012....the 5 minute limit is still there, they want you to install the VEOH player. --187.146.235.159 (talk) 07:21, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

original format vs. flash[edit]

The article says "As of February 2008, Veoh changed back to high resolution downloads for those using veoh TV Beta," but that's just not true, well, OK, I'm not 100% sure, but what I'm seeing sure looks like .flv, I have not tried to "save" the videos just "play" them on VeohTV (in either case something is being saved on my computer), but what I'm getting looks like flv, not as crappy as YouTube though. Lysis rationale (talk) 08:50, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, the "saved" videos are of the original format. Lysis rationale (talk) 19:19, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anime[edit]

Many of the people who visit Veoh watch anime episodes. If you visit sites such as http://www.watchanimenow.com/, then you'll notice that most of the videos are veoh videos. Is this worth mentioning in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.58.96.135 (talk) 02:31, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

nope--The Last Uchiha 05:25, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Discontinuation of services in different parts of the world[edit]

here's the thread in their forum: http://forums.veoh.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3780&page=2

This far the country list is: EU members:

  • Luxembourg
  • Latvia
  • Bulgaria
  • Hungary
  • Slovenia
  • Slovakia
  • Romania
  • Cyprus
  • Lithuania
  • Czech Republic

Non-EU members:

  • Chile
  • Venezuela
  • Malaysia
  • Indonesia
  • Dominican Republic
  • Lebanon
  • United Arab Emirates
  • Indonesia
  • Chile
  • Argentina
  • Guatemala
  • Brazil
  • Puerto Rico
  • Guam, Jamaica, Barbados, El Salvador
  • Malta
  • Macedonia
  • Ukraine
  • Colombia
  • The Cayman Islands, Guadeloupe
  • Saudi Arabia
  • Peru
  • Panama
  • Turkey
  • Croatia
  • Jordan
  • Egypt
  • Serbia
  • Iceland
  • Bermuda
  • Thailand
  • Brunei
  • Honduras
  • Bahamas
  • Nicaragua

quote:

Veoh is maintaining markets when[sic] we have the highest concentration of viewers.

— post by Veoh staff

Lysis rationale (talk) 01:33, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Veoh in Jamaica[edit]

Could someone explain to me why veoh blocked the access to their site from Jamaica? (Speaker180 (talk))

Blocked countries[edit]

Algeria * Antigua and Barbuda Argentina Bahrain * Barbados * Bermuda Brazil Brunei * Bulgaria Cayman Islands Chile Colombia Costa Rica Croatia Cyprus Czech Republic Denmark * Dominican Republic Egypt El Savaldor Faroe Islands * Guadeloupe Guam Guatemala Guyana * Hungary Iceland Indonesia Iran Jamaica Jordan Kuwait * Latvia Lebanon * Lithuania Luxembourg Malaysia Malta Mauritius Morocco Nicaragua * Panama Peru Puerto Rico Qatar * Romania Saudi Arabia Serbia Slovakia Slovenia Sri Lanka Syria * Tanzania Thailand Trinidad and Tobago Tunisia * Turkey Ukraine * United Arab Emirates Venezuela Vietnam * Virgin Island * (62 countries) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.168.57.56 (talk) 08:41, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unsuprisingly, most of these are so-called "developing countries", but Denmark and Luxembourg are among the richest places on Earth, besting USA or UK in per capita income. How did they get on this Veoh-block list, unless the company has no interest in paying customers? 91.83.20.238 (talk) 11:42, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
They're small markets, very small. Restorak (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 02:25, 4 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Veoh block possible tech reason explained[edit]

It appears Veoh started to block due to bandwidht problems. A website called "lemonscripts" developed and hosts a Java applet which allows you to download the original video (not the degraded flash-flv transcript) from Veoh, without having to use the P2P-type Veoh TV utility. The unofficial method takes about 27 minutes to download a 20 min/200MB video via lemonscripts, it uses a CPU-intensive method to fake P2P-like activity. It works very well and countless people use it.

Probably everybody outside of the anglo-saxon world willl be blocked eventually. I think many in the third world and europe will be much pissed off and there are many hackers among them, they may even retaliate against Veoh for the discrimination with a network flood. 91.83.20.238 (talk) 11:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What a load of bull... There are other ways to block leechers. And since not every country on the list is a "third world country". And even if they were - this is just plain unfair. Very similar to dvd regions and all similar "features" that are designed to milk more profit. Its just that here I don't see no way this helps their profits, seems more like to backslash. --Neikius (talk) 21:44, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

169 Countries Blocked[edit]

  1. Afghanistan
  2. Albania
  3. Algeria
  4. Andorra
  5. Angola
  6. Anguilla
  7. Antigua and Barbuda
  8. Argentina
  9. Armenia
  10. Aruba
  11. Azerbaijan
  12. Bahamas
  13. Bahrain
  14. Bangladesh
  15. Barbados
  16. Belarus
  17. Belize
  18. Benin
  19. Bhutan
  20. Bolivia
  21. Bosnia and Herzegovina
  22. Botswana
  23. Brazil
  24. Brunei
  25. Bulgaria
  26. Burkina Faso
  27. Burundi
  28. Cambodia
  29. Cameroon
  30. Cape Verde
  31. Central African Republic
  32. Chad
  33. Chile
  34. Colombia
  35. Comoros
  36. Congo]]
  37. Costa Rica
  38. Côte d'Ivoire
  39. Croatia
  40. Cuba
  41. Cyprus
  42. Czech Republic
  43. Djibouti
  44. Dominica
  45. Dominican Republic
  46. East Timor (Timor Timur)
  47. Ecuador
  48. Egypt
  49. El Salvador
  50. Equatorial Guinea
  51. Eritrea
  52. Estonia
  53. Ethiopia
  54. Fiji
  55. Gabon
  56. Gambia, The
  57. Georgia (country)|Georgia
  58. Ghana
  59. Guam
  60. Grenada
  61. Guatemala
  62. Guinea
  63. Guinea-Bissau
  64. Guyana
  65. Haiti
  66. Honduras
  67. Hungary
  68. Iceland
  69. India
  70. Indonesia
  71. Iran
  72. Iraq
  73. Jamaica
  74. Jordan
  75. Kazakhstan
  76. Kenya
  77. Kiribati
  78. Korea, North
  79. Kuwait
  80. Kyrgyzstan
  81. Laos
  82. Latvia
  83. Lebanon
  84. Lesotho
  85. Liberia
  86. Libya
  87. Liechtenstein
  88. Lithuania
  89. Luxembourg
  90. Macedonia
  91. Madagascar
  92. Malawi
  93. Malaysia
  94. Maldives
  95. Mali
  96. Malta
  97. Marshall Islands
  98. Mauritania
  99. Mauritius
  100. Mexico
  101. Micronesia
  102. Moldova
  103. Mongolia
  104. Montenegro
  105. Morocco
  106. Mozambique
  107. Myanmar|Myanmar (Burma)
  108. Namibia
  109. Nauru
  110. Nepal
  111. Netherlands Antilles
  112. Nicaragua
  113. Niger
  114. Nigeria
  115. Oman]]
  116. Pakistan
  117. Palau
  118. Panama
  119. Papua New Guinea
  120. Paraguay
  121. Peru
  122. Qatar
  123. Romania
  124. Rwanda
  125. Saint Kitts and Nevis
  126. Saint Lucia
  127. Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
  128. Samoa
  129. San Marino
  130. Sao Tome and Principe
  131. Saudi Arabia
  132. Senegal
  133. Serbia
  134. Seychelles
  135. Sierra Leone
  136. Singapore
  137. Slovakia
  138. Slovenia
  139. Solomon Islands
  140. Somalia
  141. South Africa
  142. Sri Lanka
  143. Sudan]]
  144. Suriname
  145. Swaziland
  146. Syria
  147. Tajikistan
  148. Tanzania
  149. Thailand
  150. Togo
  151. Tonga
  152. Trinidad and Tobago
  153. Tunisia
  154. Turkey
  155. Turkmenistan
  156. Tuvalu
  157. Uganda
  158. Ukraine
  159. United Arab Emirates
  160. Uruguay
  161. Uzbekistan
  162. Vanuatu
  163. Vatican City
  164. Venezuela
  165. Vietnam
  166. Western Sahara
  167. Yemen
  168. Zambia
  169. Zimbabwe

well iceland has bin unblock more than 2 months so you can remove it from the list —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andri12 (talk • contribs) 13:44, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My Veoh does not play any more. Cannot believe they block it over here - in GERMANY.

Very POV[edit]

This article does nothing but brings up criticism of Veoh TV, so we should work to make it much more neutral than it is now. For this, everybody should help. Some by editting, some others by not editting.--96.232.61.201 (talk) 01:34, 15 July 2008 (UTC) I just put a POV tag.[reply]

Whatever, just let Veoh die. There is apparently a lot to criticize and nothing special to tell. --193.77.254.198 (talk) 10:09, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, i deleted my uploaded video and account, let veoh die.--79.116.209.130 (talk) 19:17, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But Wikipedia is supposed to be NPOV. This article is heavily Anti-Veoh. Whether you like Veoh or not is beside the point... 90.240.0.228 (talk) 23:00, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Do us a favor and shut up. This article is neutral enough, it's just that there are more reasons to criticize Veoh than to praise it. So yeah, let Veoh die alone. 190.139.43.178 (talk) 01:29, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Restrictions lifted[edit]

It seems like the restrictions have been taken off - just watched a video on the website itself. Does anyone have information on this ? Ezhuks (talk) 00:46, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Categorization within Intel[edit]

Why is this article categorized under Category:Intel Corporation? Intel does not own Veoh and is just an investor. --Sbluen (talk) 22:10, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Veoh and Mixin[edit]

I noticed that in many (but not all) cases Veoh now shows just a 5 minute preview and links to Mixin for the full video. Example: http://www.veoh.com/watch/e42374SpCjXdDH I suppose these two websites belong together and this should be reflected in the article. -- 77.184.170.209 (talk) 14:45, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Those f**king horrible embedded ads[edit]

Straight from their forum messageboard:

My major concern is the advertisements. Dear heavens. I will be watching a video, fullscreen and whatnot, been watching for 15 minutes, and then suddenly I hear a terribly loud advertisement just start playing. So I pause the video, minimize it, and look over to the right and see the ad window, screaming at me to buy this product. I then have to mute my computer because its one of those ads that don't have any sort of volume control or pause button. So I wait until its over and wait for the video after the ad to load and then pause it and continue my video. 15 minutes later, history repeats itself. Seriously, I'm not going to buy any Dove products for at least the next months out of sheer fury toward that event. I dunno if it's the people that own the ads or if it's you guys who maybe programmed something incorrectly, but it's just awful, and I would like to suggest that you maybe change that.

Myself and the person above CANNOT be the only people having these problems with Veoh. Basically the sole administrator (yes, this site has just one, and he's a condescending asshole) says you have to go off-site and get download something to deal with it, rather than to simple change the way advertisments work on the site. The invasive ads deserve some kind of mention in the article. Period. --98.246.156.76 (talk) 21:06, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It would be easiest to include this information if it was written in a news article somewhere, whether online or not, so that we have a source that meets this wiki's standards. As for how to solve the problem, you can consider making a personal blacklist of websites and including Veoh in it. Or add/agree with complaints on http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/veoh.com. --Sbluen (talk) 17:14, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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