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Copied from WP:RFD with few changes

XFD backlog
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AfD 0 0 0 0 0

Redirects for discussion (RfD) is the place where potentially problematic redirects are discussed. Items usually stay listed for a week or so, after which they are deleted, kept, or retargeted.

  • If you want to replace an unprotected redirect with an article, do not list it here. Turning redirects into articles is wholly encouraged. Be bold!
  • If you want to move a page but a redirect is in the way, do not list it here. For non-controversial cases, place a technical request; if a discussion is required, then start a requested move.
  • If you think a redirect points to the wrong target article, this is a good place to discuss what should be the proper target.
  • Redirects should not be deleted just because they have no incoming links. Please do not use this as the only reason to delete a redirect. However, redirects that do have incoming links are sometimes deleted, so that is not a sufficient condition for keeping. (See § When should we delete a redirect? for more information.)

Please do not unilaterally rename or change the target of a redirect while it is under discussion. This adds unnecessary complication to the discussion for participants and closers.

Before listing a redirect for discussion[edit]

Please be aware of these general policies, which apply here as elsewhere:

The guiding principles of RfD[edit]

  • The purpose of a good redirect is to eliminate the possibility that readers will find themselves staring blankly at "Search results 1–10 out of 378" instead of the article they were looking for. If someone could plausibly enter the redirect's name when searching for the target article, it's a good redirect.
  • Redirects are cheap. They take up little storage space and use very little bandwidth. It doesn't really hurt things if there are a few of them scattered around. On the flip side, deleting redirects is also cheap because recording the deletion takes up little storage space and uses very little bandwidth. There is no harm in deleting problematic redirects.
  • If a good-faith RfD nomination proposes to delete a redirect and has no discussion after at least 7 days, the default result is delete.
  • Redirects nominated in contravention of Wikipedia:Redirect will be speedily kept.
  • RfD can also serve as a central discussion forum for debates about which page a redirect should target. In cases where retargeting the redirect could be considered controversial, it is advisable to leave a notice on the talk page of the redirect's current target page or the proposed target page to refer readers to the redirect's nomination to allow input and help form consensus for the redirect's target.
  • Requests for deletion of redirects from one page's talk page to another's do not need to be listed here. Anyone can remove the redirect by blanking the page. The G6 criterion for speedy deletion may be appropriate.
  • In discussions, always ask yourself whether or not a redirect would be helpful to the reader.

When should we delete a redirect?[edit]


The major reasons why deletion of redirects is harmful are:

  • a redirect may contain non-trivial edit history;
  • if a redirect is reasonably old (or is the result of moving a page that has been there for quite some time), then it is possible that its deletion will break incoming links (such links coming from older revisions of Wikipedia pages, from edit summaries, from other Wikimedia projects or from elsewhere on the internet, do not show up in "What links here").

Therefore consider the deletion only of either harmful redirects or of recent ones.

Reasons for deleting[edit]

You might want to delete a redirect if one or more of the following conditions is met (but note also the exceptions listed below this list):

  1. The redirect page makes it unreasonably difficult for users to locate similarly named articles via the search engine. For example, if the user searches for "New Articles", and is redirected to a disambiguation page for "Articles", it would take much longer to get to the newly added articles on Wikipedia.
  2. The redirect might cause confusion. For example, if "Adam B. Smith" was redirected to "Andrew B. Smith", because Andrew was accidentally called Adam in one source, this could cause confusion with the article on Adam Smith, so the redirect should be deleted.
  3. The redirect is offensive or abusive, such as redirecting "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" to "Joe Bloggs" (unless "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" is legitimately discussed in the article), or "Joe Bloggs" to "Loser". (Speedy deletion criterion G10 and G3 may apply.) See also § Neutrality of redirects.
  4. The redirect constitutes self-promotion or spam. (Speedy deletion criterion G11 may apply.)
  5. The redirect makes no sense, such as redirecting "Apple" to "Orange". (Speedy deletion criterion G1 may apply.)
  6. It is a cross-namespace redirect out of article space, such as one pointing into the User or Wikipedia namespace. The major exception to this rule are the pseudo-namespace shortcut redirects, which technically are in the main article space. Some long-standing cross-namespace redirects are also kept because of their long-standing history and potential usefulness. "MOS:" redirects, for example, are an exception to this rule. (Note also the existence of namespace aliases such as WP:. Speedy deletion criterion R2 may apply if the target namespace is something other than Category:, Template:, Wikipedia:, Help:, or Portal:.)
  7. If the redirect is broken, meaning it redirects to an article that does not exist, it can be immediately deleted under speedy deletion criterion G8. You should check that there is not an alternative place it could be appropriately redirected to first and that it has not become broken through vandalism.
  8. If the redirect is a novel or very obscure synonym for an article name that is not mentioned in the target, it is unlikely to be useful. In particular, redirects in a language other than English to a page whose subject is unrelated to that language (or a culture that speaks that language) should generally not be created. (Implausible typos or misnomers are candidates for speedy deletion criterion R3, if recently created.)
  9. If the target article needs to be moved to the redirect title, but the redirect has been edited before and has a history of its own, then the title needs to be freed up to make way for the move. If the move is uncontroversial, tag the redirect for G6 speedy deletion, or alternatively (with the suppressredirect user right; available to page movers and admins), perform a round-robin move. If not, take the article to Requested moves.
  10. If the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject.

Reasons for not deleting[edit]

However, avoid deleting such redirects if:

  1. They have a potentially useful page history, or an edit history that should be kept to comply with the licensing requirements for a merge (see Wikipedia:Merge and delete). On the other hand, if the redirect was created by renaming a page with that name, and the page history just mentions the renaming, and for one of the reasons above you want to delete the page, copy the page history to the Talk page of the article it redirects to. The act of renaming is useful page history, and even more so if there has been discussion on the page name.
  2. They would aid accidental linking and make the creation of duplicate articles less likely, whether by redirecting a plural to a singular, by redirecting a frequent misspelling to a correct spelling, by redirecting a misnomer to a correct term, by redirecting to a synonym, etc. In other words, redirects with no incoming links are not candidates for deletion on those grounds because they are of benefit to the browsing user. Some extra vigilance by editors will be required to minimize the occurrence of those frequent misspellings in the article texts because the linkified misspellings will not appear as broken links; consider tagging the redirect with the {{R from misspelling}} template to assist editors in monitoring these misspellings.
  3. They aid searches on certain terms. For example, users who might see the "Keystone State" mentioned somewhere but do not know what that refers to will be able to find out at the Pennsylvania (target) article.
  4. Deleting redirects runs the risk of breaking incoming or internal links. For example, redirects resulting from page moves should not normally be deleted without good reason. Links that have existed for a significant length of time, including CamelCase links (e.g. WolVes) and old subpage links, should be left alone in case there are any existing links on external pages pointing to them. See also Wikipedia:Link rot § Link rot on non-Wikimedia sites.
  5. Someone finds them useful. Hint: If someone says they find a redirect useful, they probably do. You might not find it useful—this is not because the other person is being untruthful, but because you browse Wikipedia in different ways. Evidence of usage can be gauged by using the wikishark or pageviews tool on the redirect to see the number of views it gets.
  6. The redirect is to a closely related word form, such as a plural form to a singular form.

Neutrality of redirects[edit]

Just as article titles using non-neutral language are permitted in some circumstances, so are such redirects. Because redirects are less visible to readers, more latitude is allowed in their names, therefore perceived lack of neutrality in redirect names is not a sufficient reason for their deletion. In most cases, non-neutral but verifiable redirects should point to neutrally titled articles about the subject of the term. Non-neutral redirects may be tagged with {{R from non-neutral name}}.

Non-neutral redirects are commonly created for three reasons:

  1. Articles that are created using non-neutral titles are routinely moved to a new neutral title, which leaves behind the old non-neutral title as a working redirect (e.g. ClimategateClimatic Research Unit email controversy).
  2. Articles created as POV forks may be deleted and replaced by a redirect pointing towards the article from which the fork originated (e.g. Barack Obama Muslim rumor → deleted and now redirected to Barack Obama religion conspiracy theories).
  3. The subject matter of articles may be represented by some sources outside Wikipedia in non-neutral terms. Such terms are generally avoided in Wikipedia article titles, per the words to avoid guidelines and the general neutral point of view policy. For instance the non-neutral expression "Attorneygate" is used to redirect to the neutrally titled Dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy. The article in question has never used that title, but the redirect was created to provide an alternative means of reaching it because a number of press reports use the term.

The exceptions to this rule would be redirects that are not established terms and are unlikely to be useful, and therefore may be nominated for deletion, perhaps under deletion reason #3. However, if a redirect represents an established term that is used in multiple mainstream reliable sources, it should be kept even if non-neutral, as it will facilitate searches on such terms. Please keep in mind that RfD is not the place to resolve most editorial disputes.

Closing notes[edit]

Details at Administrator instructions for RfD

Nominations should remain open, per policy, about a week before they are closed, unless they meet the general criteria for speedy deletion, the criteria for speedy deletion of a redirect, or are not valid redirect discussion requests (e.g. are actually move requests).

How to list a redirect for discussion[edit]

STEP I.
Tag the redirect(s).

  Enter {{subst:rfd|content= at the very beginning of the redirect page you are listing for discussion and enter }} at the very end of the page.

  • Please do not mark the edit as minor (m).
  • Please include in the edit summary the phrase:
    Nominated for RfD: see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion]].
  • Save the page ("Publish changes").
  • If you are unable to edit the redirect page because of protection, this step can be omitted, and after step 2 is completed, a request to add the RFD template can be put on the redirect's talk page.
  • If the redirect you are nominating is in template namespace, consider adding |showontransclusion=1 to the RfD tag so that people using the template redirect are aware of the nomination.
  • If you are nominating multiple redirects as a group, repeat all the above steps for each redirect being nominated.
STEP II.
List the entry on RfD.

 Click here to edit the section of RfD for today's entries.

  • Enter this text below the date heading:
{{subst:Rfd2|redirect=RedirectName|target=TargetArticle|text=The action you would like to occur (deletion, re-targeting, etc.) and the rationale for that action.}} ~~~~
  • For this template:
    • Put the redirect's name in place of RedirectName, put the target article's name in place of TargetArticle, and include a reason after text=.
    • Note that, for this step, the "target article" is the current target of the redirect (if you have a suggestion for a better target, include this in the text that you insert after text=).
  • Please use an edit summary such as:
    Nominating [[RedirectName]]
    (replacing RedirectName with the name of the redirect you are nominating).
  • To list multiple related redirects for discussion, use the following syntax. Repeat line 2 for N number of redirects:
{{subst:Rfd2|redirect=RedirectName1|target=TargetArticle1}}
{{subst:Rfd2|multi=yes|redirect=RedirectName2|target=TargetArticle2}}
{{subst:Rfd2|multi=yes|redirect=RedirectNameN|target=TargetArticleN|text=The actions you would like to occur (deletion, re-targeting, etc.) and the rationale for those actions.}} ~~~~
  • If the redirect has had previous RfDs, you can add {{Oldrfdlist|previous RfD without brackets|result of previous RfD}} directly after the rfd2 template.
STEP III.
Notify users.

  It is generally considered good practice to notify the creator and main contributors of the redirect(s) that you nominate.

To find the main contributors, look in the page history of the respective redirect(s). For convenience, the template

{{subst:Rfd notice|RedirectName}} ~~~~

may be placed on the creator/main contributors' user talk page to provide notice of the discussion. Please replace RedirectName with the name of the respective creator/main contributors' redirect and use an edit summary such as:
Notice of redirect discussion at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion]]

Notices about the RfD discussion may also be left on relevant talk pages.

  • Please consider using What links here to locate other redirects that may be related to the one you are nominating. After going to the redirect target page and selecting "What links here" in the toolbox on the left side of your computer screen, select both "Hide transclusions" and "Hide links" filters to display the redirects to the redirect target page.

Current list[edit]

May 4[edit]

Airport route[edit]

It's impossible to associate this term with a single article, and I doubt a dab will be useful either. Propose retargeting to somewhere like Airport#Access_and_onward_travel or deleting. NotAGenious (talk) 16:27, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Can someone merge Airport Route with this nomination? NotAGenious (talk) 16:32, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting since the second redirect wasn't tagged until now.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 21:22, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Na Sé Contaethe[edit]

Not a plausible search term. Also not mentioned in target (I tried ctrl+f/F3) JuniperChill (talk) 21:58, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Also nominated Na Se Contaethe per the two comments below for the same reason JuniperChill (talk) 20:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ToadetteEdit! 07:01, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nom and bundle Na Se Contaethe along with this. Okmrman (talk) 04:15, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
@Shhhnotsoloud / @Okmrman  Done JuniperChill (talk) 20:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Keep The Irish term translates to 'The Six Counties' which is an alternative name for Northern Ireland. I believe that this is a plausible redirect and does not violate WP:RFOREIGN hence I would opt for keep. Golem08 (talk) 21:19, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 21:16, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Nanashi (MÄR)[edit]

Separating this out from the below because there is an episode of the manga titled just "Nanashi" so this could justifiably be thought of as a redirect for that. But really people typing this are likely to be looking for the character, on whom there's not enough substance to warrant a redirect. Has prior history but Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of MÄR characters establishes sufficient agreement from AfD that there's no need to restore. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:47, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Delete per nom Okmrman (talk) 04:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Keep but retarget to the chapter list. I don't see a reason to delete it since it's mentioned and redirects are WP:CHEAP. Link20XX (talk) 15:52, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Turing recognizable[edit]

I think this should redirect to the more general notion of Computably enumerable set. (When this discussion is closed, a Turing-recognizable redirect should be created with the same target.) 1234qwer1234qwer4 20:02, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

You may want to treat the redirect Turing-recognizable language the same way. –jacobolus (t) 20:05, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
...Or add it to this discussion, like I just did. Steel1943 (talk) 20:53, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
...Or you could just create Turing-recognizable and add it to this nomination ... like I just did... Steel1943 (talk) 20:52, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Doctor (rapper)[edit]

Not mentioned in the target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the target article unclear. Per the edit history trail left by the redirect, the subject of this redirect may have a connection to the subject at Life (Sigma album). Steel1943 (talk) 18:58, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

  • Comment: This redirect previously targeted the page now at Rudeboy (Sigma song), where the sole reference (outside of the infobox and citations) to the rapper was that the song was featuring vocals from British singer MC Doctor (permalink). That page was BLARed in Jan 2023 and now targets Life (Sigma album), which - outside of the tracklist - references Doctor once, in the sentence "Rudeboy" featuring Doctor was released as the album's first single on 15 December 2013. (The reason Doctor (rapper) currently targets Rude boy is because the redirect Rudeboy (song) was retargeted to that article not long after a move, causing a bot to retarget this redirect there as well.) All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 22:04, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Dr. Rapp[edit]

Not mentioned in target article. Apparently, the subject of these redirects is in regards to a true story (doctor who became a rapper after the doctor had a blackout) that Netflix bought the rights for in 2019. However, 2019 seems to be where all the news about this ends. There is no other information on Wikipedia about this subject. Steel1943 (talk) 18:56, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

2025 PDC World Darts Championship[edit]

Deletion. The 2025 WC is not mentioned in the target article yet.
The previous PDC Darts WC articles were created months before they started, when there was some official info about them. ArtiK-99 (talk) 16:06, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Latin peoples[edit]

History indicates that this used to be a problematic article that was then redirected to Italic peoples, then to Romance-speaking world which was relatively recently deleted (2023), and now re-created as a redirect to Latins by a new user. This should be discussed before we let it stay. Joy (talk) 13:19, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Getting Out Our Dreams II LLC[edit]

Recently created at WP:AFC/R. My concerns regarding these redirects are the same as I left as a comment there: judging from this 2022 Variety article, I'm not sure that this is the same company - the fact that Getting Out Our Dreams II, LLC is referenced in that article as a variation on the name of his earlier label, Getting Out Our Dreams makes me feel like this company might not be the same thing as GOOD Music. If it isn't the same company, I worry that having this redirect might cause confusion to our readers, by implying to those who are redirected from this term that this is a company name for the GOOD Music we have an article on (which, according to this RS, would seem to be incorrect). I'm not sure what the best thing to do here is, so bringing to RfD for more thoughts, but would lean in favour of deletion if a better solution can't be found. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 06:45, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

@A smart kitten I definitely didn’t do well for not telling you why I went ahead to accept the request even though I saw your comment. I actually did a bit of research and found some song releases where Kanye West was the artist and the label was “Getting Out Our Dreams” then at the copyright text, it was “Getting Out Our Dreams II LLC”. I’m currently mobile, I’d drop what I saw later. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:50, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
@Vanderwaalforces: Please feel free to link what you saw; however, I'm not sure if that would confirm them as being the same company - according to the Variety article, Kanye's contracts have been renegotiated more than once, meaning that it seems possible to me that the songs might have been released under GOOD Music initially and the copyright later transferred to Getting Out Our Dreams II, LLC. For example, The Life of Pablo mentions that it was released through GOOD Music, but the Variety article states that [t]he copyright on all of his albums from 2016’s “Life of Pablo” album onward is credited to his company [GOOD II LLC]. I'll admit that this is quite a murky situation, though - the Variety article was the only RS I was able to find that mentioned GOOD II, and the company names being similar doesn't help! All the best ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 07:17, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

United Penn Bank[edit]

The only mention of "United" comes from the United States. The only mention of "Penn" is within Pennsylvania. Besides that, no mention of "United Penn", or "Penn Bank" at the target article. Apparently might be a predecessor in the building, and the article is tagged with possibilities, but if this isn't mentioned at the target it may be better off to convert this into a red link to encourage article creation, if the possibility is indeed there. Utopes (talk / cont) 21:32, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

  • Weak retarget to Mellon Financial, where it is mentioned. I'm not opposed to deleting if others feel it would be better as a red link as the nominator suggests. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 14:24, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
    • This seems like a good target. —Ost (talk) 21:23, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 05:44, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Evil Mario[edit]

could also be referring to bowser jr., doopliss, or mario himself in earlier continuities. also arguably not fitting in the first place after... his debut, but that's besides the point cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:19, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nom as it could easily mean several other different entities and characters, not just Wario. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 02:32, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete Overly vague, and could conceivably refer to numerous different characters. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 10:34, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Delete per nom. Very ambiguous. Okmrman (talk) 04:13, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Also bundle Evil Luigi along with this discussion Okmrman (talk) 04:16, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep per Hey man im josh. This goes where I'd expect it to. --BDD (talk) 14:52, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Keep or delete?
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PORTIA[edit]

Although I see PORTIA (in all caps) mentioned here, I think it makes sense to redirect to Portia (disambig page) instead. JuniperChill (talk) 10:56, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

  • REtarget to dab page -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 05:45, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep. This capitalised redirect is correctly targeted and there's a hatnote to other uses. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:37, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Russell Westbrick[edit]

Per WP:RNEUTRAL and WP:RFD#DELETE. Also it is never discussed nor mentioned in the article. Mazewaxie (talkcontribs) 07:57, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

  • Weak keep as navigationally useful. The nickname is used by WP:RS e.g. [1] and it is plausible that someone not familiar with him or American sports in general might search the phrase based off something they see in sports media or just in a forum post where his actual name is not mentioned. Should be re-tagged with Template:R from non-neutral name rather than Template:R from alternative name.
Remember WP:RNEUTRAL explicitly allows non-neutral but verifiable redirects, and states they should point to neutrally titled articles about the subject of the term. You declined to specify which part of WP:RFD#DELETE applies which makes that hard to examine, but WP:RFD#K3 certainly applies here. Redirects from pejorative nicknames are rather common actually. For example just from a quick scroll I see His Fraudulency, Big Yud, Bastard brat, Milk Snatcher, Mark Uterus, President Pooh, Pootin, Fredo Cuomo.
I don't know how likely it is for someone who doesn't follow the NBA to run across this, and someone who already follows the NBA will know who it refers to already, which is why my keep is weak here, but it seems plausible that will happen every so often. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:49B:2883:34FC:225B (talk) 14:29, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Any further thoughts?
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Rape of Nancheng[edit]

Delete: neither rape nor Nancheng are mentioned in the article, the term has virtually no views and I only found it when trying to find other articles known as 'Rape of X'. I did contact the creator of the redirect but he didn't respond Traumnovelle (talk) 03:16, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Jonny cochrane[edit]

honestly, i feel like it could refer to both Johnnie Cochran or Johnny Cochrane. Probably even more to the latter since the redirect uses the exact last name. Okmrman (talk) 00:55, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Disambiguate with links to both. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:18, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete for 2 errors (from whichever target is intended). There's no justification for any further disambiguation: both targets have a hatnote. 16:04, 27 April 2024 (UTC)Shhhnotsoloud (talk)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Keep A disambiguation page consisting of nothing but errors is questionable IMO, especially with only two entries. Since both articles appropriately have hatnotes to each other and the lawyer is ultimately more notable, I'm fine with the status quo. As a second choice, go ahead and redirect it to the football manager—the nominator has a point that at least there's an exact match for the surname. --BDD (talk) 19:45, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Bedbg bite[edit]

Delete, misspelled Plantdrew (talk) 03:48, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

G-Men(Slang)[edit]

Not eligible for speedy due to being redirected as a result of a previous AFD, nonetheless this is an unecessary redirect with no space before a parenthetical disambiguation that has only minor page history and no incoming links from mainspace. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A490:821A:272C:B909 (talk) 03:37, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Cetian[edit]

Not mentioned at the target. Using the search function results in hits for several articles, mainly the works of Ursula K. Le Guin (e.g. The Word for World Is Forest), but also Cerberus (board game), Tim Sullivan (writer), and Ariaethus of Tegea. I don't think there is an obvious "correct" target here. TompaDompa (talk) 00:00, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

May 3[edit]

Rigel IV[edit]

Not mentioned at the target. Using the search function results in hits at Wolf in the Fold, On Venus, Have We Got a Rabbi!, Cap'n Magneto, Lensman series, The Simpsons season 2, and Treehouse of Horror (The Simpsons episode), none of which are obviously the "correct" target. I think the best option here is to let the reader use the search function. TompaDompa (talk) 23:55, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Eta Ursae Majoris in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Alkaid to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:50, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Atlas (star) in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Atlas (star) to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:49, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Epsilon Canis Majoris in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Epsilon Canis Majoris to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:49, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Delta Eridani in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Delta Eridani to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Sigma Sculptoris in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Sigma Sculptoris to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:46, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Iota Persei in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Iota Persei to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:46, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Gamma Hydrae in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Gamma Hydrae to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:46, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Iota Geminorum in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Iota Geminorum to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:45, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Vegan (fiction)[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Vega to retarget to. Seems an implausible search term. Doesn't seem appropriate to retarget to anything related to veganism either. TompaDompa (talk) 23:44, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Zeta Tucanae in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Zeta Tucanae to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:41, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Zeta Persei in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Zeta Persei to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:41, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Zeta Ophiuchi in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Zeta Ophiuchi to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:40, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Zeta Draconis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Zeta Draconis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:40, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Zeta Aquilae in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Zeta Aquilae to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:38, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Xi Puppis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Xi Puppis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:38, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Theta Hydrae in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Theta Hydrae to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:37, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Theta Centauri in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Theta Centauri to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:37, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Theta Capricorni in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Theta Capricorni to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:36, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Tau Coronae Borealis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Tau Coronae Borealis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:36, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

T Coronae Borealis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at T Coronae Borealis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Ross 248 in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Ross 248 to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:34, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Ross 154 in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Ross 154 to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:34, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Ross 128 in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Ross 128 to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:33, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Phi Orionis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Phi Orionis, Phi1 Orionis, or Phi2 Orionis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:33, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Phi Ophiuchi in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Phi Ophiuchi to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:31, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

P Eridani in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at p Eridani to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:31, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Nu Ophiuchi in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Nu Ophiuchi to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:31, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Mu Herculis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Mu Herculis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:30, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Mu Capricorni in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Mu Capricorni to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:30, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Mizar and Alcor in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Mizar and Alcor to retarget to. There is relevant content at Mizar (where Mizar in fiction redirects), but none at Alcor (star). There are also plausible targets at the disambiguation pages Mizar (disambiguation) (so maybe Mizar in fiction should be retargeted) and Alcor. Methinks it would be best to delete this redirect. TompaDompa (talk) 23:29, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Mintaka in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Mintaka to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:19, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Luyten's Star in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Luyten's Star to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:18, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Luyten 726-8 in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Gliese 65 to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Lambda Serpentis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Lambda Serpentis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Lambda Scorpii in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Lambda Scorpii to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:16, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Lalande 46650 in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Gliese 908 (whereto Lalande 46650 redirects) to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:15, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Kruger 60 in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Kruger 60 to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Kappa Velorum in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Kappa Velorum to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Kappa Coronae Borealis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Kappa Coronae Borealis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Groombridge 34 in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Groombridge 34 to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:10, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Gliese 876 in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Gliese 876 to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:10, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Gliese 754 in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Gliese 754 to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:09, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Gliese 687 in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Gliese 687 to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:09, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Gamma Ursae Majoris in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Phecda to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:08, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Gamma Trianguli in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Gamma Trianguli to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:08, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Gamma Serpentis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Gamma Serpentis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:07, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Gamma Leporis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Gamma Leporis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:07, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Gamma Andromedae in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Gamma Andromedae to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:06, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Eta Orionis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Eta Orionis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Eta Cassiopeiae in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Eta Cassiopeiae to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Eta Boötis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Eta Boötis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:04, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Epsilon Scorpii in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Epsilon Scorpii to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:04, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Epsilon Indi in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Epsilon Indi to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:04, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Epsilon Gruis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Epsilon Gruis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:03, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Epsilon Boötis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Epsilon Boötis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:02, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Delta Draconis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Delta Draconis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Delta Crateris in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Delta Crateris to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 23:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

CY Aquarii in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, and CY Aquarii is at time of writing a WP:REDLINK, so that's not a possible retarget. TompaDompa (talk) 22:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Chi Draconis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Chi Draconis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:57, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Beta Virginis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Beta Virginis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:56, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Beta Tauri in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Beta Tauri to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:56, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Beta Hydri in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Beta Hydri to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:55, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Beta Eridani in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Beta Eridani to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:55, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Beta Corvi in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Beta Corvi to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:54, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Beta Cassiopeiae in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Beta Cassiopeiae to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:53, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Beta Canum Venaticorum in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Beta Canum Venaticorum to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:53, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Beta Caeli in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Beta Caeli to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Beta Aurigae in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Beta Aurigae to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:49, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Beta Aquarii in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Beta Aquarii to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:46, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Beta Andromedae in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Mirach to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:45, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Bellatrix in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Bellatrix to retarget to. Bellatrix (disambiguation) mentions a fictional character, Bellatrix Lestrange, but that seems like an unlikely article to be looking for if anybody is searching for "Bellatrix in fiction". TompaDompa (talk) 22:28, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Barnard's Star in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Barnard's Star to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:22, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Alpha Tucanae in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Alpha Tucanae to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:22, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Alpha Serpentis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Alpha Serpentis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:21, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Alpha Pavonis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Alpha Pavonis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Alpha Hydri in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Alpha Hydri to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:19, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Alpha Draconis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Thuban to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:18, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Alpha Coronae Borealis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Alpha Coronae Borealis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:16, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Alpha Ceti in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Alpha Ceti to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:15, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Alnitak in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Alnitak to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:13, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Alnilam in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Alnilam to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Alkalurops in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Mu Boötis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Alioth in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Alioth to retarget to. Per Alioth (disambiguation), there are two fictional entities/characters by this name: Alioth (Marvel Cinematic Universe) and Alioth Epsilon Fenrir (both redirect pages, by the way). TompaDompa (talk) 22:10, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Alhena in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Gamma Geminorum to retarget to. No reasonable target at Alhena (disambiguation). TompaDompa (talk) 22:06, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Algenubi in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Epsilon Leonis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Achernar in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Achernar to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:03, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Acamar in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Theta Eridani to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 22:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

94 Aquarii in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at 94 Aquarii to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 21:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

61 Cygni in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at 61 Cygni to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 21:58, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

47 Ursae Majoris in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at 47 Ursae Majoris to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 21:56, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Spica in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Spica to retarget to. Spica (disambiguation)#Fictional characters might be a possible target, but I'm more inclined to just delete this redirect. TompaDompa (talk) 21:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Wolf 359 in fiction[edit]

Not mentioned at the target. Wolf 359 has no content to retarget to, but mentions a fictional Star Trek battle and an episode of The Outer Limits in a hatnote. TompaDompa (talk) 21:49, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

List of stars in Star Trek[edit]

Not mentioned at the target. If there is an appropriate place it can be retargeted to, I don't know of it. TompaDompa (talk) 21:46, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

  • Delete Nowhere on this site should we have such a list, and I do not believe we have such a list anywhere on the site. This redirect is useless. QuicoleJR (talk) 23:26, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
When the redirect was first created, it pointed at a list with several Star Trek stars. jlwoodwa (talk) 23:58, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Fictional planetary systems and stars[edit]

These two topics are now covered at two different articles: Extrasolar planets in fiction and Stars in fiction. Neither of those is the correct target and a disambiguation page seems silly, so I think letting readers rely on the search function is probably the best option here. TompaDompa (talk) 21:44, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Fictional stars and planetary systems[edit]

These two topics are now covered at two different articles: Stars in fiction and Extrasolar planets in fiction. Neither of those is the correct target and a disambiguation page seems silly, so I think letting readers rely on the search function is probably the best option here. TompaDompa (talk) 21:44, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Rigel 7[edit]

Not mentioned at the target. Rigel 7 or Rigel VII is apparently the name of the fictional home planet of Kang and Kodos in The Simpsons as well as a planet visited in The Cage (Star Trek: The Original Series). I don't know if either of those possible targets is more appropriate than the other. TompaDompa (talk) 21:40, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Rigel VII[edit]

Not mentioned at the target. Rigel 7 or Rigel VII is apparently the name of the fictional home planet of Kang and Kodos in The Simpsons as well as a planet visited in The Cage (Star Trek: The Original Series). I don't know if either of those possible targets is more appropriate than the other. TompaDompa (talk) 21:40, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Poke-navi[edit]

Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

delete. it's not even called that, it's the "pokénav" cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 23:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Pokegear[edit]

Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:33, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

delete, as it's extremely minor for a mechanic the games want you to think is vital cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 23:21, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Pollux in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Pollux (star) to retarget to. I don't think any other "Pollux" listed at the disambiguation page Pollux would make for a good target either (nor, for that matter, the disambiguation page itself). TompaDompa (talk) 21:30, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Regulus in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Regulus to retarget to. Regulus (disambiguation)#Fiction is a possible target, though I doubt the entries there are what people searching for "Regulus in fiction" are looking for. TompaDompa (talk) 21:27, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Beta Lyrae in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Beta Lyrae to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 21:26, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Sheliak in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Beta Lyrae to retarget to. Could perhaps be retargeted to The Ensigns of Command, whereto Sheliak redirects. TompaDompa (talk) 21:25, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Sigma Draconis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Sigma Draconis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 21:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Zeta Reticuli in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Zeta Reticuli to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 21:22, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Gamma Draconis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Gamma Draconis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 21:19, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Beta Librae in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Beta Librae to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 21:18, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Epsilon Pegasi in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Epsilon Pegasi to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 21:15, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Groombridge 1618 in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Groombridge 1618 to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 21:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Delta Sagittarii in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Delta Sagittarii to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 21:13, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Lalande 21185 in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Lalande 21185 to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 21:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

107 Piscium in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at 107 Piscium to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 21:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

70 Ophiuchi in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at 70 Ophiuchi to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 21:10, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Delta Pavonis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Delta Pavonis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 20:43, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Iota Horologii in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Iota Horologii to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 20:41, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Lacaille 9352 in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Lacaille 9352 to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 20:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Mu Cassiopeiae in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Mu Cassiopeiae to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 20:34, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Tau Cygni in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Tau Cygni to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 20:33, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Van Maanen 2 in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at van Maanen 2 to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 20:30, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

82 Eridani in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at 82 G. Eridani to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 20:19, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Theta Ursae Majoris in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Theta Ursae Majoris to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 20:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

61 Virginis in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at 61 Virginis to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 19:46, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Gliese 710 in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Gliese 710 to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 19:34, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Zeta Piscium in fiction[edit]

Nothing at the target on this topic, no content at Zeta Piscium to retarget to. TompaDompa (talk) 19:32, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

List of fictional desert planets[edit]

No such list at the target (or elsewhere, so nowhere to retarget) and not in use. TompaDompa (talk) 19:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

That girl is so dangerous[edit]

Redirect from an internal song lyric to a song title, which is (a) not even accurate, and (b) ambiguous even if it were. MJ's song features the line ''The girl is so dangerous", but never once says "That girl is so dangerous" according to lyrics databases, while that girl being dangerous is Kardinal Offishall's thing in his otherwise unrelated "Dangerous". Song-lyric to song-title redirects are not generally useful in most instances -- but even when they are warranted, they need to actually be accurate and exclusive to that song, where this is neither of those things. Bearcat (talk) 14:40, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

  • Delete - besides being inaccurate, song lyrics are also normally copyrighted, which means we should have a very good reason to have them as redirects. This one is not recognizable enough to outweigh the copyright concern and should be deleted. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:44, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 Comment: Neutral: go ahead and delete it if you please. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 16:52, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete per Ivanvector's comment. Waylon (was) (here) 16:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Lady Godiva syndrome[edit]

Lady Godiva is never mentioned or referred to at the target article. Redirect a hyper-specific reference to an apparent synonym where it never is talked about is not very helpful. People looking for exhibitionism would have gotten to that point through just searching Exhibitionism. The current title might just be more helpful pointed at Lady Godiva, if anything, as the presence of a name within the title makes it seem like the name is the most defining aspect. Utopes (talk / cont) 04:59, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the page history?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 06:35, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

  • Keep - The page history just says it's an eponymous synonym for Exhibitionism, which is presumably why it was replaced with a redirect instead. A google search pops up a PubMed article entitled "Lady Godiva syndrome" and while I can't see what the paper says, the "Similar articles" list contains multiple entries all about female exhibitionism, so I find it quite plausible that this synonym is in fact established as a thing in this reliable source. Some non-reliable sources also appear on google stating that it is a synonym, along with "apodysophilia". As an attested synonym, albeit a rare one, I think the redirect is acceptable for wikipedia. The lack of mention at the target shouldn't be a problem, as this is a case of being a direct synonym, and one that is rare enough that it isn't notable. It seems to be reliably sourced, just not interesting enough for article inclusion. Fieari (talk) 06:47, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Keep or retarget? Also notified of this discussion at the proposed target talk.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 14:32, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Super Saiyan 6[edit]

This transformation doesn't even exist. No one is going to use it to find "Dragon Ball". Mazewaxie (talkcontribs) 07:27, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

  • Delete seems to be different fanon creations unrelated to official materials according to my GSearch. My kid self would enjoy SS6 pictures though. --Lenticel (talk) 01:17, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the page history?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 13:42, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

  • SNOW delete This is just fan made nonsense. Waylon (was) (here) 16:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Knightfall (comics)[edit]

Delete. No mention of "Knightfall" in the target article. Mika1h (talk) 11:52, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

  • Retarget "(comics)" to Batman: Knightfall, a DC Comics comic book storyline; when Bruce Wayne Batman broke his back and was replaced by Azrael and then Nightwing as Batman -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 05:44, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: For an opinion on Knightfall (character). Also notified of this discussion at the current and proposed target talk pages.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 13:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Rizalito David[edit]

Redirect can be expanded into an article, Target page does not have the biography of Rizalito David. Also found that redirect creator is a sockpuppet of user 23prootie.TheNuggeteer (talk) 12:45, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

  • Keep - at the moment, the information we have on this person is at the current target. If someone wants to write a separate bio the redirect is not stopping them, or they could write it as a draft. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Hubert’s Lemonade[edit]

Neither "Hubert" nor, surprisingly, "Lemonade" comes up at the target article. Seems to be a brand of lemonade owned by Coca-Cola, but targeting this specific brand to the overarching company is not useful for people looking for Hubert's Lemonade. If people wanted to read about the Coca Cola company instead, they'd just search for the Coca Cola company directly. Utopes (talk / cont) 03:50, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ToadetteEdit! 18:08, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Delete or move without creating additional redirect per PPPery Okmrman (talk) 21:03, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Retarget per BDD and create the additional redirect. There is nothing "incorrect" about curly quotes. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:53, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: A new target has been proposed. Also notified of this discussion at the proposed target talk pages.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 12:32, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Головна сторінка[edit]

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

I originally WP:G4'd this as this has been previously discussed and deleted at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 August 6#Redirects to Main Page, however the creator contested this stating This redirect created for users who trying switch language from Ukrainian to English. Ther always just remove //uk. and input //en. This redirect allow to users going to Main Page dirrectly from Main page of Ukrainian Wiki and We, in the Ukrainian-language Wikipedia, have a similar redirection, and if you erase en and write uk, the user will be redirected to the main page accordingly. Fork99 (talk) 11:54, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

  • Comment – Ukrainian isn't special in this respect. A similar argument could be made for the redirects from other languages which were deleted in the RfD cited above. (The Vietnamese one reappeared recently, and was deleted again and salted.) Even the main page isn't qualitatively special; one could make a similar argument about a hypothetical redirect from Гірнича промисловість Гаяни to Mining in Guyana, though obviously it would affect a much smaller number of readers (probably zero). Certes (talk) 12:39, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment by nominator: I vaguely remember reading somewhere that what other Wikipedias decide to do has no bearing on what the English Wikipedia does, can anyone confirm this for the second argument made by the creator? If so, I would support a G4 speedy deletion per Certes. Fork99 (talk) 12:50, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment – Friends I also want to appeal, apart from all the rules and instructions, to one of the rules of Wikipedia, which is based on the words of the founder.
"If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it."
Currently, the redirect that I created is intended only so that users from Ukraine who enter from the main page and do not go to the link, but change it in the address bar, can conveniently get to the main page of Wikipedia itself, and not to some 404 page. VollyM (talk) 14:30, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Well no, without this redirect you would not end up at a 404 page, you'd end up at a page that looks like this. If you want to go to the Main Page from there, just click on the Wikipedia logo. -- Tavix (talk) 15:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
That's a good point. To anyone who knows Wikipedia intimately enough to alter its URLs in a productive way, the globe logo is a universal and language-independent symbol for a link to the current wiki's main page. Certes (talk) 17:24, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Yes, I meant this (creating new page is like 404). Also yes, sure, but this is two action. First we have change url, and then click to globe. But all reason why we need this redirect is no additional action needed. We can always going to front-page and then scroll down for change language of front-page but this isn't comfortable. There also is some people who need just change language to going to home page.
We made in Ukrainian version also redirect from [2]https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?redirect=no to https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B0 and this is comfortable for users. VollyM (talk) 20:22, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete per the previous discussion. As I explained above, it is simple to get to the English Wikipedia Main Page from the Ukrainian Wikipedia without this redirect. In fact, this would work from anywhere in the Ukrainian Wikipedia, not just from their Main Page. -- Tavix (talk) 15:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete its confusing to have such a redirect on enwiki as it may make people think its ruewiki. Also it can probably be deleted per G4. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:34, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
    How users may think this is ruwiki if these words is Ukrainian? VollyM (talk) 20:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
    users likely to mistake this for ruewiki and edit in the wrong language, probably cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 23:25, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
    It's impossible because of Russian and Ukrainian languages is different.
    It's like Polish and Czech. Symbols is look like same, but words is different. Or like English and German. VollyM (talk) 13:20, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
    by that logic, wouldn't they know that they're not in the right wiki for a головна сторінка?
    if wp:rlang was somehow completely wrong about this exact type of situation and those redirects would somehow help people who come here without knowing a word of english, we'd also need a página principal for the folks who make the mistake of bumping into enwiki while brazilian (my condolences to them), or a メインページ for the japanese, and the flood gates would be open to wrong language edits
    am i... citing pandora without citing pandora? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:17, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
    Russian is a bit of a red herring. Even a reader who can easily distinguish Ukrainian on sight, and not mistake it for another Cyrillic script such as Russian, might think they are on Ukrainian Wikipedia. Certes (talk) 20:37, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Thonk[edit]

Yet another confusing vocabulary word redirect. Apparently "Thonk" was the title of one album this guy made in 1994, but as many of y'all might know, it's also the name of a commonly used emoji (particularly on Discord). I think Thinking, wikt:thonk, or (if mentioned there) List of Generation Z slang would all be better targets than this, but I'm not quite sure - I'd be happy with Michael Manring being mentioned in a hatnote though. Duckmather (talk) 04:28, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Soft redirect to wikit Okmrman (talk) 21:17, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Several targets were proposed by the nom, and it's not entirely clear which one is best.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 06:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Islamist insurgency in Somalia (2007–present)[edit]

Not appropriate for a "2007-present" redirect to point to events from a decade ago. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the page history of Islamist insurgency in Somalia (2007–present)?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 03:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Probably delete per nom. Okmrman (talk) 04:29, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Keep or delete?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 05:58, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Axis victory in world war ii[edit]

Grossly miscapitalized redirects like this one invite visual edits like this one. Due to a longstanding UI misfeature in the visual editor, links to such bad redirects are made every day. They show up in the report of links to miscapitalized redirects, and I fix them. If we would just delete such redirects, including things like united states, there would be a lot fewer errors to fix. Dicklyon (talk) 02:53, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

  • The problem with such grossly miscapitalized redirects is that they don't serve any purpose, since nobody would type that way, and if they did they'd be better served by seeing a redlink. The problem is compounded by the visual editor UI that offers up such links; I agree it would be better to see that fixed, but so far my attempts to get some attention on it have failed. The result of these things is that every day we multiple new entries in the report Wikipedia:Database_reports/Linked_miscapitalizations, and this report will only ever be useful if we can keep up with fixing things on it (at present I can't do the ones with many links, as I don't have JWB access, but I've been keeping up with the ones with fewer than a dozen links, which is a lot of work every day, partly due to the visual editor offering up such grossly miscapitalized redirects all the time). This one, unlike united states seemed to be so clearly useless that I thought I'd try this step as part of the fix for it. Dicklyon (talk) 17:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
  • User:Dicklyon is there a reason why piped links are listed there? Because since they have no effect on the visible output of the page there is no reason they should be. If even excluding those the report is still useless then I think a village pump discussion would be a better way to find a solution, because regardless of outcome, nomination of a handful of arbitrary redirects is not going to resolve the issue. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:32:BC47:A9D:406B (talk) 16:54, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
    Excellent question. If we could exclude piped links from the report, life would be better all around, and I'd stop working on and being distracted by those. I've forgotten who does that report, but will try to look into it. Dicklyon (talk) 17:00, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep per others: Who is "nobody" you're talking about? AFAIK, people are lazy and don't usually bother with correct capitalisation of search queries on search engines like Google, so it's plausible that readers might do the same on Wikipedia. Fork99 (talk) 23:32, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Bonde (disambiguation)[edit]

I listed this rdr for a G14 because the target, as I stated in my nomination, is now an article with a list of names bearing this title/name. This IPv6 address (2601:5cc:8300:a7f0:9d60:98f8:7049:a67e) reverted my edit as "explicitly" not so, but I want it deleted since it longer serves the purpose for which it was created in the first place. Intrisit (talk) 02:10, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

With that explained, it is true WP:INTDABLINK is no longer a concern, and permanent hatnoting for other people with the name could be done through say Bonde (surname), though there is the additional complication of its use as one of the estates of the Swedish Riksdag which may justify maintenance retention. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:9D60:98F8:7049:A67E (talk) 04:03, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Current text of "Bonde" should be moved to House of Bonde or Bonde family or similar, and there should be a separate list as a way to reach Bill Bonde, Alexander Bonde, Arne Bonde, Line Bonde, James Bonde, William Bonde and a number of other people with that surname. (Disambiguate) --Joy (talk) 07:39, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep - anthroponymy pages disambiguate people with the same name. If someone were to look for the disambiguation page for articles titled "Bonde", the current target is it. If we moved Bonde to a different title with similar content, it would still serve this function and the redirect would still be valid. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:27, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
    I also support Joy's solution for those individuals who are surnamed "Bonde" but aren't members of the noble house. The current list is confusing. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:31, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
    To that end I've created Bonde (surname). Retarget to the newly-created dab page, which links to the House article. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:40, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
    @Ivanvector it'd be a two-entry disambiguation page, so I'd just squash the surname list into the base title, and keep the link to the medieval nobility on top. We do that elsewhere, and I don't recall seeing anyone having an issue with that. --Joy (talk) 14:53, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
    BTW looking into the history, this actually started off ambiguous twenty years ago, but was reformatted. In the meantime, that other topic mention was deleted five years ago with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Foundation universe planets. --Joy (talk) 14:58, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
    Looks like three topics actually since the current page also disambiguates one of the four estates of the Swedish Riksdag, which could still be kept on the same DAB. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:32:BC47:A9D:406B (talk) 17:00, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
    The linked article Riksdag of the Estates doesn't actually mention the term as such, only as part of words Bondeståndet and bönder. Are there actual ambiguous references to this term as such, or is it just part of the etymology? --Joy (talk) 18:12, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
    The situation is somewhat analogous to say Mississippi River since once context is supplied Bonde may be used to refer to the Bondeståndet in the same way that Mississippi will be used to refer to the river. But you make a point and the standard way to resolve that is to place it within a "see also" section. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:95B3:1631:747A:2941 (talk) 21:48, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Older[edit]

Old business[edit]