User talk:CNMall41/Archive 9

Draft: Pilot Light

Hello, I see that you've declined my draft for Pilot Light. I have removed the original research and am wondering how I am lacking suitable references; numbers #1, 2, 6, and 8, I thought, meet the requirements. If I am wrong, please let me know. Thanks. Tjblmc20 (talk) 01:44, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

You are wrong in my opinion. See WP:ORGCRIT and WP:RSPSS. Only source I see is the Chicago Tribune but that is mainly about the founder(s) and even so would only amount to one source. --CNMall41 (talk) 02:58, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

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Draft:Hues and Cues

Hi! I got the notification that you've declined my draft for Hues and Cues. In my research and writing I was following the reliable source list for the BTG Wkiproject and I believe most of my sources to be reliable (with the ones that aren't being primary sources). I could very well be wrong, in which case I'm happy to go back to improving the draft, but I wanted to check in with you and understand your thought process. Thanks! Salem Ander (talk) 21:46, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

They appear to be blogs without any type of editorial oversight. How can they be considered reliable? --CNMall41 (talk) 22:00, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

I understand that, but as per the reliable source list they are considered reliable for mundane details such as they are being used for in the draft. However, I do see your point and will resubmit once I have found a reliable non-"blog" secondary source. Thanks for your input and review! :D Salem Ander (talk) 01:39, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Needs to meet WP:NCORP, particularly WP:PRODUCT according to that WikiProject. We are talking about reliable sources to show notability, not to use for mundane details. --CNMall41 (talk) 05:33, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

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Rejection of Draft:Georgios Mikellides

Hi - a heads up, you may wish to reassess, he's a fellow of the Royal College of Psychiatrists, that satisfies WP:NPROF #3. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 06:20, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Very familiar but it was not declined based on notability. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:22, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Actually, just sought to verify the fellowship and it appears to fail. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 06:30, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

That sucks. I was originally going to stub and accept it prior to declining it. Then I saw in the history the many removals of declines and the failure to clean up the tone from prior rejections and decided against it. Good catch. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:35, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Apologies, I've rechecked this - it does in fact verify. The first time I searched I got no result, but I've now checked twice and I get a result showing him elected as a fellow in 2011 with his region as Cyprus. I could go ahead and make a stub and leave you to patrol it...thoughs? Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 21:30, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

@Goldsztajn: Feel free, although despite the warnings to the submitter, they went ahead a removed the decline notices yest again. I simply don't wish to entertain that type of conduct. If you wish to stubify and move it I won't object but I won't be involved in the process. Thanks for the notice and verifying their position. Cheers. --CNMall41 (talk) 08:49, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Your reviewing

Re: your comment " I do not have access to the references without links so not sure what they say about the subject."

What kind of lazy smug insult is this? If you DON'T have access to the print references an editor has supplied, or more correctly, can't be arsed investing your precious time to access the references to check them, DON'T review the article, period. Either exercise some initiative, or exercise some humility. MisterWizzy (talk) 17:52, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

(drive-by comment) @MisterWizzy You've selectively quoted CNMall41's comment. They indicated they did check those items that were linked and engaged in a WP:BEFORE. In this situation, the simplest response is to make it easier for reviewers to verify. I've no reason to doubt you've made this draft in good faith and I've converted as many references as I could using the {{cite}} templates, to facilitate a subsequent reviewer to verifiy the claims. The draft has not been rejected, but declined, which means there's still an opportunity for the article to be accepted. If you could add links to The Advocate, which I could not find, with my changes it should be ready for resubmission. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 22:23, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

I managed to find one of the pieces from The Advocate on ProQuest and added links that to the article, but was not successful with the other one (although found the issue it is cited to, but could not find an article under the title "Caught in the web". Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 01:40, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, although I won't be doing anything with that draft in the future as I'm not obligated to entertain the misery of the draft submitter. --CNMall41 (talk) 08:52, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Let me be perfectly clear that I nor anyone in Wikipedia is obligated to put up with that type of incivility. In fact, I have zero tolerance for it. Stay the fuck off my talk page. --CNMall41 (talk) 08:52, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Request on 16:58:06, 16 January 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by Walnuthillstreet

• Walnuthillstreet (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Tom Musca (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi there thanks for your insight as to your rejection of my Draft: Tom Musca entry, -- Tom is the writer and producer of Stand and Deliver and many other films, i did a little research and have discovered many more articles from sources including the New York Times, LA times, Variety that quote his influence on the film and tell more of the story. Also articles that confirm he won the independent spirit award for co-writing the script. I didn't go in depth my first time around because his co-writer's wikipedia page had the same references i used and thought that would be sufficient, do you think that adding these references i have referred to above will be enough ? ThanksWalnuthillstreet (talk) 16:58, 16 January 2023 (UTC) can i share them with you here? Walnuthillstreet (talk) 16:58, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

@Walnuthillstreet:, there are two ways that notability can be shown for him. The first is WP:GNG which means he needs significant coverage in reliable sources. These sources should talk about him in-depth, not just mention him in articles related to the films. The other is WP:NFILMMAKER where there are 4 criteria in which he could qualify. The most common way to show notability for a filmmaker is under criteria #3 - "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, or of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series)." So, I would say the best way to go about this is to reference all of the films that he has worked on with the most reliable source for each. Once you do that, feel free to resubmit and a reviewer will check. Good luck. --CNMall41 (talk) 08:48, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

is it possible for you to re- review the draft before i resubmit to make sure i did all that is needed? i just want to make sure i am not missing anything else. i made sure each film in the filmography was sourced (most are via wikipedia) and added references that had more in depth information about Musca's involvement in all ? Walnuthillstreet (talk) 19:03, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Feel free to resubmit when you believe you have the correct sources. Someone will be able to review and opine if anything is missing. Good luck. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:03, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Dirty Sound Magnet

Hi CNMall41, I undid your reject on this one. You had rejected it which is understandable because it had already been declined a couple times and they resubmitted without any improvement . However I had told the creator on their talk page if they resubmitted it, I would accept it but I had logged off by the time they resubmitted so you got to it before I did. :) S0091 (talk) 15:57, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

@S0091:, how dare you? lol. No biggie. I get it. Cheers!--CNMall41 (talk) 23:49, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

I know, the nerve of me! :) Good to know you have a sense of humor. Its hard to tell sometimes how someone will take things. S0091 (talk) 23:57, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Yeah. I respect civility so I don't really care what you did to the draft as long as I don't get the shit like you see in the threads above. --CNMall41 (talk) 00:02, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

That is what I call general jackassery. I don't know about you but I have been called biased, racist, etc...although never "smug" so that's a new one. S0091 (talk) 00:21, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Exactly. I get enough crap in the real world so I no longer tolerate it here on Wikipedia. Some people act like we're customer service at Waffle House or something. --CNMall41 (talk) 00:30, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Decline of the TripSitMafia draft page

Hey there, thank you very much for reviewing my article, what all do I need to fix with my article to get it published. I know now that the spotify links aren’t good enough to verify the information about the artist even though there is an artist “about” section at the bottom of the page but other than the songs are there other references in the article that need fixing? Let me know. Thanks again 2605:B100:1132:310D:AC17:E7B2:E935:481B (talk) 01:07, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

I left a comment about what is needed. Did you review that?--CNMall41 (talk) 01:07, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Just read it, so just clarifying that I’ll need more than spotify as a reference to confirm artist information. Let me know. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 444.Brev (talk • contribs) 01:18, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

No. Not "more" than Spotify. Spotify is not a reliable source for Wikipedia. You will need to find significant coverage in reliable sources. Start at this link which will help explain better. --CNMall41 (talk) 01:21, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Awesome thanks, you’ve been awesome — Preceding unsigned comment added by 444.Brev (talk • contribs) 01:26, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Draft: Nividous

Hello - thank you for reviewing my recent submission on Nividous! It was declined and I am trying to improve it. Is there a time limit with regard to resubmitting? Also, you commented that the services and reception sections alone are advertorial. Are the other sections OK as is? And is the issue with wording or do we need better sources (or both)? I am also wondering about the viability of the Forbes India source, whether it needs to be replaced. Thank you for any insights you can provide! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gomiranda (talk • contribs) 16:06, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

@Gomiranda:, looks like you signed in to a different account instead of the one you originally used to disclose your paid edits. I don't feel like playing games so find another sandbox to play in. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:25, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

File:Chewy Pet Food Logo.png listed for discussion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Chewy Pet Food Logo.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you.

(It's listed as fair use, but I believe it's too simple for copyright to apply.) Cheers, The Quirky Kitty (talk) 05:34, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Draft: OpenPetition

Dear @CNMall41, thanks for sharing your impression. You are not correct in assuming that I work there, but I am sorry if it leaves the impression. Please give me further information on how I can improve my editing in Wikipedia. English is not my mother tongue which is why I was improving my grammar and vocabulary by an AI. I follow the development of the petition law, especially in Germany, for a long time now which is why I also made an article once about the different rules in all German states. Openpetition publishes a lot of information (especially in German they seem to work transparent), so I follow that NGO, too. They have a German Wikipedia page and I just wanted to add an English version. Best wishes! LaJuerguista (talk) 09:12, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

@LaJuerguista:, thanks for the reply although I am not sure if I can assist with the language barrier. I would suggest you first look over WP:COI and WP:PAID as you would be required to make a disclosure of your connection to the subject. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:25, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Request on 21:27:21, 3 February 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by Diegoesquivel2004

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  • User:Diegoesquivel2004/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi CNMall41, the draft I wanted to submit is the Battlefield Mobile one that I have in my sandbox.
In regards of Project Q draft, I'm considering on delete it since wasn't a relevant video game apart from it's cancellation.
Thanks in advance. Diego Esquivel (Got any questions?) 21:27, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

The draft is actually three or four DIFFERENT drafts in a single submission. You will need to create a separate submission for each page you would like created. If there is one that you want deleted, simply do not submit it and it will not be reviewed. Cheers!--CNMall41 (talk) 01:21, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Reference verifies actually

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I don't see it. Can you help me out? Neither reference mentions any connection between Lanza and Wake Forest.

jps (talk) 17:55, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

As is often the case, I resolved it after posting here. For some reason, the search function wasn't indicating on Lanza's name. Still, I think the Brittanica cite isn't correct. jps (talk) 17:58, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

I would say Brittanica could be removed if it doesn't serve a purpose. I only reverted it back in case it was supporting something else in the paragraph. I looked only at the university reference which shows him as a professor. There may be better references available but I only looked at verification based on the edit comment. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:26, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

thank you for your feedback

thank you for your feedback on my submission. it would help me to understand Wikipedia better. I've another article written about an government research institute but I am unable to publish it as it has no option to submit. how to resolve this issue? Yusrashafiqjutt (talk) 19:30, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

@Yusrashafiqjutt:, I added the AfC script to it so you have the option to submit. I would advise using the article wizard when you start drafts so this template will automatically populate the draft and give you the option to submit. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:56, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Please help

Hey! Would you be kind enough and view my article Draft:Michael Nicholson#cite note-2 one more time and give me a feedback if this is better! Thanks! Stefani94 (talk) 16:06, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Answered on your talk page. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:10, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

well that was a disappointing waste of our time. Thanks for handling. Star Mississippi 00:29, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Yeah. Its common. Cheers! --CNMall41 (talk) 00:36, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Dispute in Hori7on page

Hi! If you're available, can you help us with our dispute here regarding the Hori7on main space? There had been a misunderstanding between me and another author who had a draft of the said page. I wasn't aware that a draft was up so I just created the page and put it up the mainspace. However, the draft's author, having learned that it was already available on the main space, copied (most of) my content onto his/her draft and sent it for Afc. When I learned about it, I talked with the author through the talk page, and the author acknowledged it so he/she removed my edits on his/her draft. Now, another Wiki volunteer probably thought I just copied the content from the draft so I was called out. It may be a trivial matter and my content for Hori7on may not be notable enough, but somebody else took my hard work and made it his/hers. Moreover, while he/she acknowledged the mistake, another one blamed me for not following the rules. I just wanted a fair input on the matter and be acknowledged on the content I wrote. Thank you! 001Jrm (talk) 14:43, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

I responded on that talk page. Cheers!--CNMall41 (talk) 21:30, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Box Tops for Education (February 25)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Robert McClenon were:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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• Talk page stalker comment: This is surprising. If you're over a certain age, you remember everyone's parents clipping those Box Tops for Education things off of dozens of products and sending them in. I would expect there to be a lot more sources. Newspapers.com gives 15,000+ hits for the phrase, with articles like this one. BD2412 T 22:39, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

@BD2412: I am a little shocked but not really upset. I am going to just move the mainspace as a BEFORE will be required (despite the references in the draft more than meeting WP:ORGCRIT). Only issue is there is a redirect there now. Is there a way to have that deleted? --CNMall41 (talk) 23:23, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Hang on a minute, I'll add the reference and do a page swap. BD2412 T 23:35, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Techecies (March 3)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by CNMall41 were: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Rexa ghandipour

Hello, good time, dear colleague. Thank you for your attention. Please help me to solve the problem instead of posting a problem. I really don't know what to do. Thank you.Rezagkdk (talk) 19:47, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

There was a typo in the previous message Reza ghandipour LT is Rezagkdk (talk) 19:49, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

@Rezagkdk:, I cannot help you until you help yourself. You created an autobiography that was deleted and then you moved it from AfC to mainspace without being reviewed by editors. You then proceeded to remove tags from the page identifying it as having a COI which is disruptive. WP:CIR and I would suggest you cease any further editing until you understand the guidelines on WP:COI. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:54, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Rumble

How exactly is “ Stop lying about the website Wikipedia is far left propaganda” not trolling? Dronebogus (talk) 05:11, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

I would say its more of a personal attack on the talk page of a contentious article. Can be taken care of at ANI but blanking the discussion as not a forum and then closing the discussion immediately after the last comment isn't necessary. I don't think anyone in that thread, including myself, supports the OP's contention, but they have the right to discuss it.--CNMall41 (talk) 05:14, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

@Zaathras:, I definitely won't be baited into 3RR. Not worth it. The contentiousness on that talk page and everyone involved is amusing though. Not sure why everyone can't just relax. Its an encyclopedia, not the real world. --CNMall41 (talk) 05:27, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Talk page watcher, here. Blanking discussions is a fairly extreme step, one not generally taken absent the posting of outright gibberish or blatant personal attacks. In this case, in the context of the subject, I would not support blanking the discussion. There are less abrupt solutions available. BD2412 T 03:40, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

It's all good. I think if the OP comment was blanked that would have been acceptable. However, there was a longer discussion that was taking place which should never be blanked. Its like baby with the bath water at that point. Either way, no harm no foul I guess. --CNMall41 (talk) 03:45, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Minhaj Chowdhury

You added a tag on that page stating I have connection with the subject. I noticed Minhaj Chowdhury on the list of awarded people by the U.S. Secretary of State, while creating an article on Muhammad Nur Khan, noticed him from this source. If the article looks promo, a rewrite of those phrases may be performed. I've asked for copy edits on this article before, and a few editors did those. Maybe it needs some more, but nonetheless, I'm not associated with the subject. Thanks. X (talk) 10:08, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

See the talk page. There are also other discussions about your editing behavior. An independent editor can remove the template once a review for NPOV has been complete (assuming it survives the AfD). --CNMall41 (talk) 20:03, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

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My references

Hey is it possible to remove the references that are not necessary and resubmit for creation? I did put links that I believe were unnecessary. Rrr884 (talk) 10:29, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

It appears you did this prior to my response. Just note that it is not about removing references. You will need to remove unreliable references but also ensure that you include references that show how this subject is notable. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:47, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks alot. I really want this page by the end of the year. Would a reference from sites like Hype magazine, allhiphop, hiphopsince1987, kazi magazine, medium, be considered as reliable sources? Rrr884 (talk) 22:30, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Are you the subject of the draft? --CNMall41 (talk) 07:20, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes i am Rrr884 (talk) 07:50, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Please refer to WP:COI and WP:AUTOBIO.--CNMall41 (talk) 08:13, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks Rrr884 (talk) 10:09, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Pixpa Talks

@CNMall41 Thanks for the review , Could you help me point out the sources that are not reliable ? Also I'm sharing a few more references with you.

thenextweb.com

w3techs.com

softwareadvice.com

I have cross checked all sources to know whether they are acceptable or not. Articles listed under Cloud platforms (Webflow, Squarespace) have citations from the above.

4eyedpeas (talk) 05:10, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Reliability is only one prong. Please review WP:ORGCRIT as stated. This will guide you through what is needed. Good luck. --CNMall41 (talk) 05:12, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

I have gone through WP:ORGCRIT & Wikipedia:Notability . as per the guidelines I have removed 2 references from Hubspot & Digital Trends (These have no independent mention on the subject, also removed the text that cited.

Also added reference to support notability from NextWeb All other cited sources are independent to article subject & reliable secondary sources that is accepted by Wiki.

please let me know if the draft is okay to resubmit. Thanks 4eyedpeas (talk) 04:36, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

I cannot tell you to resubmit or not. That is up to you. I can tell you that based on what I currently see in the draft I would not approve it. --CNMall41 (talk) 05:09, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Could you let me know which of the sources are irrelevant out of the 4 references added? are they all not relevant?. Also can I go with reliable review sources WP:PRODUCTREV for citations ? Thanks 4eyedpeas (talk) 07:53, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

If they talk about the company, then all will likely be considered relevant to the topic. --CNMall41 (talk) 07:56, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

I honestly believe you are wasting your time as the topic is not notable in my opinion. I did a quick search for references meeting WP:ORGCRIT and found none. At this point, I wouldn't be able to assist as I am not sure how to help. --CNMall41 (talk) 08:00, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Nase Lino

Dear @CNMall41,

I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to share with you that I have made some improvements to the "Draft:Nase Lino" draft and would like to request your kind review before proceeding with its resubmission.

In the previous version of the draft, it was noted that there were insufficient sources of information, so I took the time to conduct thorough research and collect a series of files that I consider reliable.

For this reason, I would greatly appreciate it if you could review the updated draft and provide me with your valuable feedback on it.

Thank you for your time and attention to this matter.

Redactando0.3 (talk) 02:53, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

You would need to resubmit if you feel it is ready. There are more reviewers than just me. I will recommend reviewing [{WP:REFBOMB]] however. --CNMall41 (talk) 05:52, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Draft:uPerform

Are you able to provide any additional feedback on why the draft for uPerform is getting rejected? It mentions sources, but the sources are in-depth, reliable, secondary and independent of the subject, so not sure why those are getting flagged - at least in general. Was it a particular source that caused this?

I believe notability was brought up in a previous draft too, but this seems very vaguely defined and uPerform's direct competitors have Wiki articles (most notably, Whatfix). It serves a pretty niche area of focus (EHR education), but it is a very relevant player in that.

Just trying to get this published, so any feedback is appreciated! Redfinch8 (talk) 16:39, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

@Redfinch8:, I replied on the talk page of the draft since you started a convo there. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:19, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeremy Dewitte

I think you forgot to sign your comment. CT55555(talk) 06:31, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

I seem to forget a lot of things these days. Thanks. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:42, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Beljanski

Good job getting Mirko Beljanski cleaned up. Now, can you do the same on the French wiki version? Jimminiesong (talk) 03:39, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I do not have the capacity with the language. Very little and what I do know is NSFW. --CNMall41 (talk) 04:20, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

(Talk page watched comment): I am reasonably active on French Wikipedia, and can give this a shot. I will add it to my list of things to do. BD2412 T 21:29, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Perfect. If you have access, this proved to be a very good source. --CNMall41 (talk) 23:40, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Interesting, thanks. I was unaware of the bookfinder resource. I have access to the book via the Internet Archive. BD2412 T 23:51, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Grupa Kapitałowa Immobile

Dear @CNMall41, Thanks for the review. I've added new sources that in my view are reliable. If you are able to provide any feedback, that would be great.Imerr (talk) 09:09, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

I see this was resubmitted after you added the sources. I will allow another reviewer to look at it so there is a new set of eyes and you can get a second opinion regarding notability. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:43, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Imerr (talk) 11:54, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Request on 12:15:39, 30 March 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by Kcmastrpc

• Kcmastrpc (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Traefik (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Greetings CNMall41. I noticed you failed the AfC due to not meeting WP:ORGCRIT. I have a few questions and I'd very much like to hear your feedback:

• Did you see Draft_talk:Traefik where I covered sources that combined should demonstrate all the criteria outlined in WP:ORGCRIT? While the other sources cited (tech blogs, tech reviews) are often considered unreliable, the specific posts I chose do not appear to be sponsored and are written by subject-matter experts. Typically sponsored posts are labeled as such and while the article did use those at some time, I've since removed them. Is there anything specific about the sources that I used that you feel we should take to WP:RS/N for discussion?
• Do the secondary sources such as Traefik API Gateway for Microservices not meet the bar for notability? Similarly for the other books that include Traefik in both a "how-to" and/or non-passing manner -- my understanding is that Examples of substantial coverage, more specifically, An extensive how-to guide written by people wholly independent of the company or product, additionally, book passage [...] focusing on a product is applicable here.

Thank you in advanced for your time and feedback.

Kcmastrpc (talk) 12:15, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately, there is no such thing as "combined" when it comes to ORGCRIT. It specifically says "Individual sources must be evaluated separately and independently of each other and meet the four criteria below to determine if a source qualifies towards establishing notability." I see the book sources but they do not appear to be significant in my opinion. At the end of the day, an AfC reviewer needs to determine if a draft would likely survive a deletion discussion after being moved to the main space. My opinion is that this would not. Of course, that is just my opinion. You are free to resubmit if you like as there are other reviewers who may disagree with my assessment. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:42, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

How could the sheer volume of coverage in published (book) sources not suffice to pass all the criteria laid out in ORGCRIT? Specifically the examples I mentioned re "substantial coverage". Allow me to reiterate, in addition to being included in dozens of published sources, several have dedicated large passages and chapters to the product, and an entire book was authored and published on it! If it were just tech news articles sourced I can see the rationale, as those likely wouldn't survive AfD, but the combination of the two in addition to the sheer volume of published sources seems like it should be enough to show significance. Would you reconsider your opinion and move this into the mainspace? As I pointed out in the Talk page, there are products that are similar to Traefik that have Wiki articles which don't have nearly the number of published sources that I referenced in the Traefik article (if any at all), would those survive AfD? Kcmastrpc (talk) 12:25, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

You were advised what to do. What case are you trying to make on my talk page? And what result are you looking for?--CNMall41 (talk) 23:41, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Your reconsideration in lieu of the evidence I represented on the Traefik Talk page. Kcmastrpc (talk) 01:36, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Okay. You asked for that, and I already responded to that so I am not sure I can assist you any further. Especially with the WP:ASPERSIONS you left elsewhere. --CNMall41 (talk) 01:40, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

I'm not going to respond further, but perhaps you should visit WP:DONTBITE and I honestly don't know what you're referring to, but you may want to consider WP:ACCUSE as well. Kcmastrpc (talk) 02:01, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Probably wise not to. I will say that no one on Wikipedia is required to entertain a user who casts aspersions towards editors who disagree with their point of view regarding the notability of a draft. So do not come here and make your own accusation. WP:ANI is that way if you feel I am out of line. You will need to go there with your complaint but do not come back to this talk page as you're no longer welcome.--CNMall41 (talk) 04:21, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

I am also curious as to why you claimed to the owner of the company logo when you are (or were) just an employee. --CNMall41 (talk) 00:24, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for finding that. That wasn't my intention. I will fix it as the attribution and permissions can be found on https://github.com/traefik/traefik#credits Kcmastrpc (talk) 01:36, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

So unless that person specifically releases it under a creative commons license, it could not be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. Only option I see (maybe others can advise differently) would be fair use, but the draft would need to be live in order to do that. --CNMall41 (talk) 01:39, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Does Creative Commons 3.0 Attributions license not give us the permission to use it with proper attribution? (see github link) Kcmastrpc (talk) 01:43, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

[2] --CNMall41 (talk) 01:45, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Ok Kcmastrpc (talk) 01:55, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Starting an article, but am currently left clueless, where do i start?

I have recently started working on an article that I am putting together via cited Sources on Wikipedia general topic-based Pages. The sources, well they are basically focused on computer, and only computer-based science on the study of Tech and Computer Tech Engineering science studies alone. Do you know how I could, by some possibility perhaps, tell me any advice on how I would start the page from introduction to the part of the stuff to end the page in my conclusion while relating it all back to technology. I understand if this will confuse you, as well me possibly thinking nobody has ever quite but at least you for help on writing topics like.

Anything works, and I will be happy to hear any and all possible advice you could

give as well.

-M. R, Ritzert(michaelritzert13@outlook.com

Mike3880 Mik3PromasterC4PR343 (talk) 05:35, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

@Mik3PromasterC4PR343:, absolutely. I would recommend staring at this link WP:FIRST as it will guide you through everything you need to know. There are also links on that page which will guide you to more sources. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:23, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Request on 22:42:28, 3 April 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by Daniel.pandza

• Daniel.pandza (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Interlub Group (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Interlub Group is an iconic organization from Zapopan, Mexico that should be featured on Wikipedia.

The company and/or it´s subsidiaries interlub s.a. de c.v. and interglass sa. de cv. have received three national awards by the president of Mexico:

• (Premio Nacional de Exportación,
• Premio Nacional de Calidad
• and Premio Nacional de Tecnología e Innovación.

Interlub Group´s CEO, Rene Freudenberg, was even asked to talk at the ceremony of the National Quality Award delivery ceremony in 2018 where Mexico´s former President, Enrique Peña Nieto was present.

In the history of these awards, only 3 other organizations have received all these distinctions.

Moreover, the company forms part of the Best Mexican Companies since 2015 (Las Mejores Empresas Mexicanas), a distinction granted by Citibanamex, Deloitte and Tecnológico de Monterrey.

Also two of the most important academic institutions in Mexico have featured case studies, highlighting the company´s unique business model, organiztional structure and response to the 2020 global pandemic.

Interlub Group´s leadership team feature in a series of articles in Mexico Business News as well as speakers at local TEDx events (TEDxZapopan), Coparmex events.

I have added many third party sources to the article.

Also, Interlub Group and it´s subsidiaries serve customers in niche markets (highly specialized lubricants) in over 40 countries. Therefore, there is not too much information available on the web.

I am happy to edit the parts of the content that sound too commercial and remove the links to Interlub or interglass website.

Daniel.pandza (talk) 22:42, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

@Daniel.pandza: You are a paid editor, although just now disclosing it after attempting to submit this draft previously. Based on your current draft, you have absolutely no idea of Wikipedia policy of WP:NCORP (specially WP:ORGCRIT), WP:PROMOTION, and WP:RSes in general. Once you can demonstrate competency and understanding of Wikipedia guidelines, I would be happy to assist. Until then, keep in mind that volunteer editors such as myself are not here to do the job you are paid for. --CNMall41 (talk) 02:43, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback. I am sorry for the misunderstanding.

I did disclose the fact that I am a collaborator of the organization and added the following official declaration:

"This user has publicly declared that they have a conflict of interest regarding the Wikipedia article Interlub Group." (below the references).

I also mentioned it in my about me page as well as at the end of my submission (with the yellow logo)

I will read the policies that you have cited above and improve my submission.

Have a great day. Daniel.pandza (talk) 16:41, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Draft: Nicholas Jackiw

Dear @CNMall41

Thanks for your generous offers and explanations regarding my recent proposed article! The article was rejected for citing references that did not show “published, reliable, secondary sources” independent of the subject. I am writing to ask for possible review or proof-read of a revised draft, and for clarification of a suggestion you had in your kind letter to me yesterday.

My rewritten draft (on my User page) attempts both to eliminate any statement of opinion for a clearer statement of fact, and to cite every statement of fact in the piece to a published, reliable, secondary source. In particular, I've removed a book reference published by iUniverse (“vanity press” warning), and added several additional, more reputable sources. In the new draft, three of my ten references are to peer-reviewed scientific journals, an additional one is to an entire research volume dedicated to the topic of my reference published by the largest mathematics organization in the US, and one is to a chapter in another peer-reviewed academic research volume published by Springer, the 2nd largest science/mathematics publisher in the world. Finally, additional references now link to external (independent) research bibliographies of published work authored both by the subject of my article (22 publications on Research Gate) and by other scholars researching topics of his invention either directly (Google Scholar, 11.9K results) or indirectly (3.4M results, respectively). I hope collectively these meet the criteria of being both substantial and reputable!

I’ve hosted the new draft directly on my User page as you recommended. If you were able to proofread and/or review it there, I would appreciate hearing your comment as to whether I have substantively engaged with the criticism that led it previously being declined.

The additional clarification I ask for relates to your comments about “accounts used by more than one person” or editors who “receive or expect to receive compensation” for contributions. Neither applies to my case. I am the only user (to my knowledge!) of Stravo123, which I created just yesterday. I'm also receiving no compensation for my contribution. I am, however, hoping to fill with usable hyperlinks holes in at least three currently-published Wikipedia articles that link to a “no page exists”-entry from the subject of my piece! I've also already disclosed my conflict of interest on my User page, as instructed by Wikipedia when first drafting the article. It could be your comments are somewhat boilerplate when writing to Wikipedians with apparent conflicts of interest, but it could be you are also responding to something specific in my draft or my profile of which I'm not aware. If so, can you help me better understand the concern? Thanks. Again, I really appreciate your courteous letter, existing suggestions, and offer of further help. I hope that my revised draft usefully engages all three!

Best regards Stravo123 (talk) 05:03, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Answered on your talk page. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:51, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Lady Slim Drag Queen

if you don't mind, add drag queen or travesti to the beginning or end of the Lady Slim name to search for sources in the removal template on the Lady Slim page. I wanted to do it myself but I couldn't. because things that do not belong to the topic come out with the phrase Lady Slim during the search. Therefore, I ask you to add Lady Slim drag queen travesti expressions.Futurolog21 (talk) 09:21, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for confirming how to search for reliable sources. Unfortunately, the results are the same. I left a note on your talk page in response to your other question. I would also suggest keeping all comments about this person's notability on the deletion discussion page so that it is all in one place. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:52, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Draft: Zoomex

Hi there, thank you for your comment. While editing the article, I also encountered the concern you raised in your comment. I decided to research other entities within the same industry, and I discovered that they also face similar issues with citation sources, such as cryptoblogs or other media channels. This situation has left me puzzled about the WP:ORGCRIT guidelines and how they apply in this context. Momo857 (talk) 05:23, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Answered on your talk page. --CNMall41 (talk) 05:27, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

VeePN Draft

Hello!

I totally understand the Wikipedia rules regarding notability and the lack of solid references that made you decline my draft. However, while seeking other Wikipedia articles on similar topics, I bumped into several ones that, in my opinion, have even fewer reliable and independent references than mine. Could you please have a look here and here and help me understand why those drafts were approved? Thank you in advance! Tirion999 (talk) 23:30, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

@Tirion999: "I totally understand the Wikipedia rules regarding notability and the lack of solid references that made you decline my draft" - Perfect. Notability is the cornerstone of all Wikiepdia pages. We absolutely need to see coverage meet the criteria of WP:ORGCRIT in order to approve a page for that company. Regarding the other comment, Wikipedia pages are based on guidelines, not the existence of other Wikipedia pages. Please see WP:OTHERSTUFF. Finally, I left you a welcome message on your talk page with a link to WP:PAID. If you can please review that and make the appropriate disclosure if applicable. --CNMall41 (talk) 03:37, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

More info re: AfC comment

Hi, I”ve left a response to your AfC comment at Draft:Mark Melton that might resolve the matter for you. Thanks for your attention. Ct1711 (talk) 20:37, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

I left a comment on the draft. You can ping me there if additional commentary is required. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:51, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Elicit new article

To be clear, I am not in any way associated with Elicit.

Elicit was a primary subject in a recent Nature article (referenced in draft Elict wikipedia article) I can't think of a source that is more reliable or secondary or independent than Nature. The other references, aside from the Elicit reference itself, meet this same criteria to a lesser degree. In-depth is debatable. Elicit is too new to have a lot of in-depth coverage yet. If the argument is to wait until more in-depth coverage is available, I can see that as a point. If that is the point then just reply "Wait until more in-depth coverage is available." RM2001ASO (talk) 21:53, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying although I do not think that was mentioned. If you see that as a point then I am glad we are on the same page. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:00, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Peng Zhao

Hi CNMall41. I am a disclosed COI editor working for Citadel. I noticed that you are an active member of WP:Biographies and WP:Companies, so I am hoping you might be interested in looking at an edit request I posted for Peng Zhao, the CEO of Citadel Securities, which is found here: Talk:Peng_Zhao#Education,_Philanthropy_and_Boards. The fourth bullet point was already implemented, but the first three are still open. I would be thankful if you could implement the rest of the request. All the best. Cduffymul (talk) 12:54, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

I see that the request was properly submitted so it is in queue. An editor should be around shortly to review the requested changes. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:45, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

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Request on 17:54:40, 22 April 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by Filmforme

• Filmforme (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Karenssa LeGear (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I have added a couple more reliable sources for reviews on a film she is in. Do you think they need more? Filmforme (talk) 17:54, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

@Filmforme:, feel free to resubmit if you feel the sources help the draft meet WP:ANYBIO. The references will need to talk about her, not just be about the films and give her a mention. --CNMall41 (talk) 05:05, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, the film reviews are mostly about the film, though she is talked about more than a mention. I don't know if I could say it is significant coverage though. This film and stage credits may pass WP:NACTOR though. Filmforme (talk) 06:16, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Heat Above

Please complete the AfC acceptance you requested this redirect be deleted for. Thanks. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 04:39, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

@Pppery:, haven't been on in a few days. Will take care of now. Cheers. --CNMall41 (talk) 05:01, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Barnstar for you

		The Articles for Creation Barnstar
		Just wanted to throw some recognition your way for the work you do at AfC, which is usually a thankless task. So thank you. Your work is not going unnoticed.Onel5969 TT me 09:32, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Appreciated but not necessary. Thanks. --CNMall41 (talk) 02:48, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

I second that barnstar. Not just for AfC, but for taking on the thankless task of insisting on reliable sources and due coverage throughout the encyclopedia. Cheers! BD2412 T 03:12, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Truly appreciate it. Gets to the point of burnout where I don't even have fun. Then this happens so thanks again. --CNMall41 (talk) 03:14, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Friendly query :)

I believe you mean to say this comment AFC not AFD? NP83 (talk) 01:10, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

@NP83:, I actually meant AfD as written but wasn't very clear what I meant so thanks for pointing it out. I go by the AfD test in situations where I am on the fence for notability. Based on experience with seeing the direction AfD comments go with similarly referenced pages, I tend to decline a draft if I do not think it would survive an AfD (no sense in approving something that likely will be deleted as it wastes everyone's time). Hope that makes better sense.--CNMall41 (talk) 03:03, 26 April 2023 (UTC) --

Thanks for clearing my doubt. Happy editing! NP83 (talk) 03:20, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

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Thank you for this tagging. I knew there was a way to set off the round robin, but wasn't positive how. Star Mississippi 00:48, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

@Star Mississippi:, I just figured it out myself. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:41, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Wrench (company)

Hello @CNMall41,

Thank you for taking the time to review this article and providing detailed feedback.

Per your suggestions, I've removed all partnerships and some the seemingly repetitive references, then added reputable sources including but not limited to; Daily News (Los Angeles), KIRO 7 News Seattle, Seattle Business Magazine, The Wall Street Journal, The Seattle Times, and Chicago Tribune.

Would you mind reviewing the changes? Thank you. Matt the Mech (talk) 17:09, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Sure. Just reviewed. Will provide feedback there and on your talk page. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:45, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

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Scammer Payback

Hi

Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD-D78Rhqnw minutes 8:00 and you hear he introduces himself as "Pierogi Wilson".

And you say his YouTube video and his word is not reliable? Shkuru Afshar (talk) 09:50, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I have watched most of his content. Unfortunately, we cannot use YouTube as a reliable source. --CNMall41 (talk) 09:59, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

What you say doesn't make sense. There are many events that are recorded and uploaded to YouTube on official channels. I have seen them been used as a reference.

Also, where he should declare "Pierogi Wilson"? A news agency? Do you really think he does that? Is he big enough to give interview to a news agency? Shkuru Afshar (talk) 10:34, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

The proper place to discuss would be on the article talk page. That way other editors can weigh in with their opinions as well. Feel free to start a discussion there and I will opine. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:08, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Derrick Acosta

Hi, thanks for the review. IMO, references 2, 3 & 5 are significant coverage in reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Are you looking for more like these, or is it enough and the other references with mentions are preventing publication? Filmforme (talk) 20:39, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

@Filmforme:, I see two as being listed as one of 10 so not actually about him. Yes, it covers him, but he is not the focus of the story. Three is the same, although better and contains more information, as it focuses on the group and not him as an individual. Five only mentions his name once and then focuses on the collective. I do not see any of these holding up in an AfD which is why it was declined. You could seek a second opinion or add more significant coverage that is more in-depth about the subject. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:01, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying. By my count, he is mentioned nine times in the Kill Screen article which is pretty significant, but I will seek out further coverage before resubmitting. Filmforme (talk) 21:10, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

@Filmforme:, I get that. Significant coverage isn't just mentions though. I would save yourself some time and may ask for a second opinion at the Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/New question. Maybe others disagree with my assessment. Cheers! --CNMall41 (talk) 23:20, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks. Filmforme (talk) 23:33, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

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Draft:Consort

Hello, CNMall41,

I don't know about other administrators but I will never move this page to main space until it is ready for main space. That means removing all of the AFC tags and messages and cleaning up the article. Some editors take care of this and so the draft article is clean and ready to be moved but a lot of editors ask admins to move over an article that still looks like an attempt at a draft and is messy. So, I do what most other admins do, pass on dealing with this request and let it sit until an admin comes along who wants to deal with it. Just giving you a head's up here. Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:37, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

@Liz:, thanks for the direction. I was going to clean it up once I knew the target was clear but I can see how an admin would be leery. I will clean it up now. Thanks again.--CNMall41 (talk) 05:12, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi, CNMall41! I'm afraid I've declined G6 at Consort. As I tried to explain in an edit summary, I'm far from convinced that the draft represents the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC – the first page of a JSTOR search, for example, seems to have 13 uses of the music term, 9 of the partner term, and 3 others. Unless you feel strongly about it, perhaps it'd be simplest to choose a different destination title for the draft? Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:59, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

I have moved Consort (disambiguation) back to Consort because of the above point by Justlettersandnumbers, and I would advise you to open a WP:RM or similar discussion if you wish to justify how Draft:Consort should be moved to Consort. The Night Watch (talk) 18:39, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Perhaps the draft can be moved to Royal consort (currently a redirect to the disambiguation page), since it is mostly focused on royals. BD2412 T 19:04, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

@Justlettersandnumbers: Thanks for the note and direction. It's Wikipedia so the only thing I really feel strongly about is COI and NPOV. I think Royal consort would be a good target per the suggestion of BD2412. I will hold off requesting any move for a little bit in case you or @The Night Watch: has any objection. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:04, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, CNMall41, BD2412! Please, I've no reason to object to anything here – I declined the G6 request mostly because I feared that accepting it might lead to extended RM discussions and all-round waste of time. I've no opinion on what the best title for the page might be, and whatever is chosen is just fine with me; I will just point out that (I believe) 'consort' in this meaning is also used of various gods (in the JSTOR search I linked above, see "Asherah, Consort of Yahweh" and "Rādhā: Consort of Kṛṣṇa"), so 'royal' may not be 100% accurate (but still OK?). I can never remember whether, for a title with no clear primary topic, we're supposed to have the dab page at Foo and a redirect from Foo (disambiguation), or vice versa, but assume that The Night Watch has got that right. Regards all round, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:57, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

That's a good call and I probably could have dug deeper on it in the first place. Been missing some things as of late with so much late night editing. Cheers!

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shubhada Varadkar

Hi CNMall41, I am wondering if you can help clarify the notability guidelines for people in this discussion - it appears this article has been created by an editor without a lot of experience, and while I have tried to discuss the guideline more broadly in the AfD, your discussion of WP:ANYBIO may be confusing to a newer editor, because there are other ways to demonstrate notability beyond this part of the guideline. Any assistance you can provide is appreciated. Thank you, Beccaynr (talk) 15:27, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

And to clarify, the article at the time of the AfD nomination appears to rely on WP:ANYBIO for notability because of the lead, but as the AfD discussion has progressed, there appears to be other options to support notability that are emerging as further sources are identified and discussed. Thanks again, Beccaynr (talk) 16:03, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

@Beccaynr:, I will respond in the discussion but user has been led to the water many times. The numerous declines of this draft with notices prior to them moving it to the mainspace is more than sufficient. I took the time to see if I could clean it up myself but there is nothing to support notability. Just a bunch of mentions and at this point I would suspect the OP of the article has a COI with getting this published. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:50, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, CNMall41 - I tend to work on articles about 'creatives' (usually authors) and find the WP:BASIC guideline useful when there are multiple sources over time that may, e.g. include some quotes from the subject, or discussion about others, but nevertheless include notability-supporting commentary/analysis about the subject. I think your nomination of the article for deletion is justified based on its history as well as your view of the sources and the guidelines - I also think I can save this article with sources I found, based on my perspective. And I appreciate your clarification in the discussion. Cheers, Beccaynr (talk) 21:52, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

I get it and appreciate your work. I am more of an inclusionist but don't care for Wikipedia being turned into promotion or a directory for borderline notable people. Cheers!--CNMall41 (talk) 22:05, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you again, and for your work at NPP and AfC. My time at AfD has definitely increased my awareness about the deluge of promotional and directory-style content on Wikipedia, and your efforts to help stem the tide are greatly appreciated. Cheers again, Beccaynr (talk) 22:25, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

I get it. I used to spend a lot of time at AfD. It gives a good perspective on how the community interprets various guidelines. --CNMall41 (talk) 23:23, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

LINBIT article references

Thanks for reviewing the LINBIT article for me. I added a reference that describes an industry record the company recently set for compute performance. I think that reference, and the references that describe the company's products—which are themselves Wikipedia articles—satisfies the notability criteria. Thanks for your consideration and the time you've spent with me so far on this. I am learning as I go. Isolary (talk) 21:21, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

I'll take a look and comment on the draft. Thanks for the notice. --CNMall41 (talk) 05:22, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks again for your help on this. I added a reference (https://www.zdnet.de/88405623/linbit-linstor-auf-aws-marketplace/) that goes a bit more in-depth on the company and its products, and calls the company's software "the fastest... in the Linux world." There are probably several other articles in German that I could add to lend notability. I'm finding that much of LINBIT's coverage is (understandably) in European media. I do think that ZDNET's article demonstrates notability, especially referring to LINBIT's offerings in the superlative. Isolary (talk) 00:42, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

@Isolary: In the draft comments I asked if you could point out the references that meet WP:ORGCRIT. The best advice I can give is for you to do so on the draft page. Language does not matter as long as they meet ORGCRIT but nothing so far other than potentially the zdnet article meet that criteria.

Consensus, bludgeoning, and onus

You aren't using any of those policy concepts correctly. Show me where there was a consensus to remove this long-standing content. I see just as many people objecting as who want to remove it. Andre🚐 06:31, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Give me a few I will add a comment on the talk page. And, thank you for the discussion as opposed to the war. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:34, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

You can say I am edit warring but you are the one edit warring by removing long-standing content, and you were already reverted by 3 different editors and a 4th that objected on talk. You should self-revert. Andre🚐 06:37, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

You can disagree obviously. However, per ONUS, "the responsibility for achieving consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content." So I really would not need to show consensus to remove, but you would need to show consensus why disputed content should remain. Being longstanding does not matter unless there was already consensus to include you which I do not see that there is. You are welcome to report the edit warring as well. Would you like me to continue providing the information you asked for in the original statement? --CNMall41 (talk) 06:41, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Onus isn't a carte blanche to claim a consensus that doesn't exist and remove whatever you don't like and keep reverting to remove it when multiple editors have disputed and reverted your removal. Once again I invite you to revert yourself. Andre🚐 06:43, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

You are correct. That would be WP:TE for me to remove content and claim ONUS just because I don't like something. It was removed based on the discussion in which there was ample time for objection. Had there been more support for keeping it, I likely would not have removed it (hence the reason why I have not reverted the climate change information claiming ONUS). I would decline the invitation to revert at this point. But again, would be happy to discuss on the talk page. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:47, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Once again go to that talk page and show me said consensus. I don't see that. All I see is you edit warring repeatedly to remove this while being reverted by other editors. Andre🚐 06:48, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

At this point it seems you are arguing just to argue. You rightfully started a new section which I responded to. I would caution you to be careful making accusations such as the one you did about me "whitewashing." I do understand your passion for the topic, but these types of comments are not civil. If you have further, please use the talk page of that article. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:52, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Ha, it's not civil to wrongly accuse someone of WP:BLUDGEONing. Good day. Andre🚐 06:54, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

It is in fact bludgeoning when you circumvent the process. Of course, I would ask that you go to ANI if I have in fact overstepped. If you need the WP:LASTWORD you can have it, but may I suggest to stay WP:COOL and simply use the talk page of the article?--CNMall41 (talk) 06:59, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

How did I circumvent the process? You are the one claiming a consensus when none has taken place. I do not need a last word, but you accused me falsely of bludgeoning, I did not circumvent any process. Andre🚐 07:06, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

CNM, if you ever had a tiny, silent, consensus, it has clearly evaporated, so stop edit warring and exhibiting OWNership behavior. Long-standing and properly sourced content needs a strong consensus for removal. You don't have it. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 16:32, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Edit warring and OWNership behavior

Your recent editing history at The Daily Caller shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 16:27, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

It is unfortunate you decided to template a regular and then use a loophole as a way to revert content to your preferred version. Regardless, here we are. Do not come back to my talk page for any reason. You are not welcome. I would encourage you to go directly to ANI for any and all conduct concerns you may have. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:53, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

On Climate Change in Poland

Hey! I saw you left a comment on our (first) wiki-article, about Climate Change in Poland, and I must say that I don't quite understand it. It seemed to me as if you assumed that Poland was a city, but it is a country in Europe. I might not understand the comment, and this might not be the place to ask for an explanation, but I would love to hear what you thought! Best regards! ILoveWisents (talk) 10:02, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

@ILoveWisents:, Only thing you need to understand is that I apologize for not looking closer. I am not sure why I read that as "Portland" and not "Poland" but I will eat crow as that was an embarrassing mistake and I greatly apologize. The first thing I checked was to see if it was common to have individual cites as I thought it was strange, hence the draft comment. I would go back and do a more thorough review for you but I see you already posted it to the main space. On a side note, you declared a COI in relation to the article and it is generally frowned upon to post directly to the mainspace. If you could provide more details per WP:PAID about who is paying you for the article it will help when new page patrol editors look at the newly created article. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:22, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi, that explains a lot! Yes, I thought I was supposed to do a COI, it is part of a course project for my Masters degree. I am technically paid to do it (in the sense that I get student loans to live from when studying, which, if I don't do my projects, I won't anymore) but it is not really a COI in the classic sense. I will figure it out, thanks for your advice! ILoveWisents (talk) 14:32, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

@ILoveWisents:, yes, it was embarrassing. Funny, but embarrassing more than anything. Good luck with your projects. --CNMall41 (talk) 03:16, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Reverting edits with regards to real estate collusion in the US housing sector

I'd like you to stop reverting my edits with regards to broker-to-broker collusion in the US real estate sector in relations to Realtor (Opcity), Redfin Partner Program, and Rocket Homes. Rocket Homes is a subsidiary of NYSE: RKT, same as Rocket Mortgage, etc. No new article is required. If you want to educate yourself on this issue, I suggest you start here:

https://homeopenly.com/guide/Rocket-Homes-Possible-Antitrust-Violations

https://homeopenly.com/guide/Realtor-Opcity-Possible-Antitrust-Violations

https://homeopenly.com/guide/Blanket-Referral-Agreements-in-Real-Estate

https://homeopenly.com/guide/Redfin-Partner-Agents-Open-Collusion

Please go back and remove your edits. The information I referenced, specifically about Rocket Homes and Redfin is primary source.

Litesand (talk) 17:02, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. Unfortunately, that is not how this works. We can continue the discussion on your talk page where this originated. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:50, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

See the following:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Digital_economy#Gig_economy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Redfin#Redfin_Partner_Program

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rocket_Mortgage#Rocket_Homes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Realtor.com#UpNest_and_Opcity_%22sham%22_brokerages Litesand (talk) 21:34, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Year Up draft review

Hi CNMall41, stopping by to let you know that I edited the Year Up article draft to cut down the Programs section, as you'd suggested. I think it's ready for you to look at again, when you have the chance. Thanks again for the great feedback, it was so helpful. Also, I will be leaving Year Up, so if you do have further questions or suggest any additional changes to the draft, a colleague of mine will be setting up a Wikipedia account so that they can take over from me. TLunnon with Year Up (talk) 13:00, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

I toned it down the rest of the way so that we don't have to go back and forth. It was moved to the mainspace. Cheers!--CNMall41 (talk) 17:56, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Freakout Festival draft review

Hello CNMall41, just letting you know I made some revisions to the Freakout Festival page to tone it down. However any suggestions for further edits would be very welcome. Thank you for the suggestions and reviewing the page. Sarahaounlanz (talk) 00:18, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

@Sarahaounlanz:, Please have a look at WP:WEASEL as it relates to wording like "eclectic mix of performers."--CNMall41 (talk) 05:01, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Ok great - I made some edits to many words that would appear to be weasel wording, so it should have a more objective feel to the language now. Please let me know if further editing should still be done or if this is sufficient now. Sarahaounlanz (talk) 16:32, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Conagra request

Hi CNMall41, just wanted to let you know that I made another request of the History section of the Conagra Brands article in case you were interested in reviewing. Cheers RWConagra (talk) 16:40, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

I will give it a few weeks so that other opinions can be involved. Wikipedia has no WP:DEADLINE. If no one chimes in after a while I will go over and address. Thanks for letting me know. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:04, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Sounds good, thanks for being willing to come back to it! RWConagra (talk) 20:24, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Peter Perry (Colonialist)

I have the books and I can load citation proof to wikimedia, as long as there is no copywrite time restriction. I'll also check online. Thank's for your review. Lord Milner (talk) 19:51, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Perfect. Make sure to check on copyright concerns prior though. There are also Google Books that could be cited with links if you search within the book and link to specific pages. I would also check out Newspapers.com (I tried but there are too many search results and did not take the time to isolate them). --CNMall41 (talk) 19:54, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

On footnote (Marlowe, pg. 135) I just added from Internet Archive (from my External Link). Please sign up for a free account, and stay logged in. IA is an amazing place.🙂 Lord Milner (talk) 20:04, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Wow. I guess old guys can learn new tricks. Thanks for the lesson. Signing up now. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:07, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

I put a page link in for Alfred Gollen, and for the O'Brien footnotes I have a temporary pic loaded to Wikimedia. Just click on the portal at the bottom right. It will be good for 10 days, but I would like to delete it earlier. I don't know if you're into World War I but I have quite a stash of quality books here, found on IA. IA is best for old material, but lots of new stuff comes up too. You can even watch movies for free.😁 Lord Milner (talk) 23:03, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

I will let you handle the Wikilinks. I am taking care of the Wikidata entry. Cheers!--CNMall41 (talk) 03:30, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Who United the Western Front During World War I

This article is the last of three that I submitted as part of a larger one. The other two are "Allied Troop Movements During Operation Michael", and "Beauvais Conference". The title originally ended with a question mark, but an editor told me it would be best to remove it (to make it more encyclopedic like). I can make it anything, meaning I can change it again, but my focus here is on the specific events that led up to the Doullens Conference, one of the secret meetings that occurred during World War I. If it reads essay like, well I guess I was too good. Honestly, I backed it up with the most credible of sources, including aprox. 25 unmatched references (most important), and twice as may footnotes. Because much of the book material is old, it meets Wikimedia's licensing criteria for pictures, and I so would like to load the best footnote evidence on that portal (bottom right of the mainpage). Thank you for your review, and for helping me on Peter Perry, above.🙂

The main issue is WP:TITLE. --CNMall41 (talk) 15:36, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Sure. The title is correct. To prevent lost or orphan articles from appearing in Wikipedia, the very top of this article has relevant links to the "Supreme War Council", "Dury Compeigne and Abbeville Meetings", "Doullens Conference" and Beauvais Conference". Also, below the "Further Reading" section, a category area appears to allow readers to investigate similar relevant articles. For example, selecting "Category: 1918 conferences" brings you to all the secret, and not so secret, conferences held in 1918. While not all relate to World War I, most do, and the reader can pick and choose what he likes. "Who United the Western Front During World War I" culminates with the Doullens Conference, which appears at both the very top, and very bottom, of the article. I hope this helps. Lord Milner (talk) 03:14, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

I am not sure what you mean. What is the title??--CNMall41 (talk) 03:20, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

It's from your previous reply, "The main issue is WP:TITLE".

By the way, I increased the number of footnotes on the first paragraph (the 1st, 2nd & last paragraphs I knew by heart, so they were a little light), and in wikimedia commons (the portal on the bottom right of the article that takes you to pictures, I added a spreadsheet that compares the versions of events at the Doullens Conference, based on eyewitness recollections.

Last, my references are the best, found from trips taken to The Library of Congress in Washington, D.C., Princeton University, the New York Public Library, internet purchases of books, and, of course, the Internet Archive. Please sign up here, Link, with a free account to obtain access to most of the references and footnote details. Lord Milner (talk) 07:51, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

And yet it was not in your reply. Simple question but yet not answer. --CNMall41 (talk) 16:17, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

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DeadAnt Media

Hi CNMall41,

I've just seen the notification for the deletion of the page. Could you let me know why the page was deleted? I work for the organisation and created the page for Wikipedia generation. Could you also let me know how I can see the original page or source to make speedy edits and resubmit it. AyeshaRT (talk) 10:17, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

@AyeshaRT:, then you should probably read WP:PAID and make the appropriate disclosure prior to doing anything further in Wikipedia. --CNMall41 (talk) 16:16, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Query

Hello, CNMall41,

I think I saw you move a draft from User space to Draft space and then tag it for speedy deletion. If you are going to tag a page for deletion, then why bother moving it? That just creates redirects that then have to be deleted. I appreciate all of the work you do, I just can't figure out why you moved a page that you then tagged for deletion. I hope this doesn't offend you, it just seems curious. Depending on the CSD criteria, it could have been tagged in User space. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:20, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

@Liz:, absolutely NOT offended. I am always learning. The moves I do are normally from userspace to draft space in order to get them into the AfC queue for review. I don't really take a closer look until after they are moved. In fact, many I just move into the queue for others to review. I believe you are referring specifically to Draft:Dhanireddy Sudarshan Reddy (this is the most recent), which I did in fact review right after the move and it was quickly apparent it was over the top promotional so I recommended for speedy. Let me know if there is a different procedure you recommend so as not to create additional work on your end. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:31, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

UnitedHealth Group requests

Hello, CNMall41! You may recall that I've been submitting some edit requests for the UnitedHealth Group article. Unfortunately, there has been no movement since your last comment a month ago. I was wondering if you might be willing to review some of my concerns. Or, do you know where else I can go to find other editors who could help? Thanks! Barbara at UHG (talk) 20:31, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

I see that Spintendo reviewed and left a comment there yesterday. Are you able to review and address those concerns? Once you do, I will be happy to review. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:14, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Applied Predictive Technologies

Hi, thank you again for reviewing my requests on Applied Predictive Technologies. I left a question for you on the Talk page. If you have a moment, I'd appreciate your insight to help inform a request I am working on. Thanks! SarahP2023 (talk) 21:24, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Answered on the talk page. Also, feel free to WP:MENTION when leaving a response on the talk page as I will see it quicker. Thanks and good luck. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:09, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Saw your response and it makes sense. I will draft some possible additions and share them. Also, thanks for the tip about WP:MENTION. SarahP2023 (talk) 18:13, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi CNMall41, I drafted some use examples and posted them in a new edit request here. Very curious to hear your thoughts if you have time to review. Thanks! SarahP2023 (talk) 23:13, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

@SarahP2023:, you will need to notify editors by placing the "request edit" template to the request. --CNMall41 (talk) 01:56, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Will do, thanks! SarahP2023 (talk) 21:48, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

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Vents Magazine

Is there a discussion you can refer me to that points to this source as unreliable or deprecated? I don't know of any discussion about this. Jalen Folf (talk) 18:30, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

@JalenFolf:, there is this at RSN and a more recent one here at RSN. However, it is more about the fact they do not list any type of editorial oversight, have writers openly seeking pay for posts, and have spammy blog content such as this. I am on the fence about bringing it up for depreciation or blacklisting so just removing for now. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:55, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Actually, I did a quick search and found (fiverr dot com / gigs / ventsmagazine) so probably will bring it up for blacklisting. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:59, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

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Welspun India

Can you explain the mass deletion of well-sourced content with this edit? The removal of "notability" and "additional citations" tags was self-explanatory as I have added several citations and consequently proved notability of the company(?) You also wrote that the sources are "likely sponsored posts", can you point me to the sources which are problematic so that I can replace them with better ones? It is quite disheartening to see my sincere efforts to expand a two line article get undone like this. 49.37.249.171 (talk) 20:54, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Sure. See this. This reference is written in a promotional tone as if the company wrote it. This had absolutely zero editorial oversight given the number of errors (looks like it was copy and pasted from Word). I am also concerned with the current references on the page, especially LiveMint which sells articles on Fiverr. I should add that I also have a COI concern based on the history of the page, including a now banned paid editor who voted !keep in the last deletion discussion (which makes me think it should have a second AfD discussion as a result). --CNMall41 (talk) 23:09, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

I think this Times of India article is fine. It was published 20 years ago and the weird characters are due to UTF-8 encoding errors. I have seen similar errors on other websites that haven't updated the encoding on their old articles. I wasn't aware of the COI concern, so maybe I will steer clear of that page. Welspun is a pretty notable business group in India, which is why I was surprised that there wasn't more information on here than those two lines. 49.37.249.171 (talk) 15:22, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Understood. The fact that it was published with those errors or that errors were never corrected tells me that it was never reviewed. Coding error or not, I would think a publication that has oversight would take the time to fix those errors. The COI is common for company pages and this one is no different unfortunately. The company seems to have some prominence but the references simply aren't there. I find references like this that mention them but very little as far as coverage that would meet WP:ORGCRIT. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:03, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Review of Page - Remoteli

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I am reaching out concerning the Remoteli Wikipedia page which has been reviewed by you previously. I value your critical feedback and have integrated your comments into the page's revision.

Upon the first evaluation, you deemed the page could potentially achieve notability in the future, but currently lacked substantial coverage. Following the second review, additional references were incorporated to enhance the page's notability.

I kindly request you to revisit the page for a reassessment, as I believe the changes made align with Wikipedia's quality and notability standards. I am grateful for your time and effort dedicated to ensuring the rigor and quality of Wikipedia content.

Thank you for your understanding and continued support. Justtheeditor1 (talk) 14:07, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

@Justtheeditor1:, I left a comment on the draft. I would also ask that you read WP:COI and WP:PAID and make the appropriate disclosure if applicable. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:43, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Dear CNMall41,

Thank you for taking the time to provide your feedback on the Remoteli page draft. I appreciate your commitment to maintaining the integrity of Wikipedia content.

I wanted to clarify a few points in response to your comments. Firstly, while the added references are recent, they offer important insights into Remoteli's developments and impact, contributing to the company's notability.

Regarding the source credibility, it's important to note that Forbes, including Forbes Africa, is a respected publication with a rigorous editorial process. Freelance writers, like staff writers, are held to high standards of reporting. Furthermore, Africa.com's "editor" designation is a common practice in many news organizations when collaborative pieces are produced. Startups Magazine, while perhaps lesser-known, has proven to be a valuable source of information on innovative companies around the world.

I have read and fully understood the Wikipedia policies WP:COI and WP:PAID. I assure you that all rules are being strictly adhered to during the drafting and editing of this page. It's my sincere intention to create an unbiased, factual, and notable page that contributes positively to the Wikipedia community.

I kindly request that you reconsider the approval of the Remoteli page in light of these points.

Thank you for your understanding and ongoing support. Justtheeditor1 (talk) 08:14, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

In addition to this, you have previously noted that the coverage of Remoteli fell short, but would likely be notable in the future. Since then, the company has garnered significant coverage in respected publications like The Times, CNN, and GQ, which attests to its growing influence. The recent addition of Forbes, another highly reputable source, further supplements this coverage and assures Remoteli's status no longer 'falls short'.

According to WP:ORGCRIT, the extensive media attention that Remoteli has received meets the notability criteria. It is therefore surprising that despite this level of coverage, the company's notability might still be questioned. Justtheeditor1 (talk) 08:27, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

@Justtheeditor1:, Nothing said above addresses the concerns of the references. Forbes does NOT hold freelancers to the same editorial standards as staff writers. This has been discussed at length by editors and we do not use contributor pieces to show notability. Also, being a "common practice" of Africa.com does not mean that it is an acceptable source. Please keep the remainder of this discussion on the draft page so other editors are able to review and opine. Finally, I will ask directly, do you have any conflict of interest as outlined in WP:COI or WP:PAID? --CNMall41 (talk) 16:21, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Dear CNMall41,

I appreciate your diligent efforts to uphold Wikipedia's content standards. However, I'd like to address a potential misunderstanding. The Forbes article cited was not written by a freelancer, but by Peace Hyde, the Head of Digital Media for Forbes Africa. This information can be quickly verified with a straightforward Google search.

Your assumption about freelancers might not apply in this case, as the piece was composed by a key staff member of Forbes. Therefore, the argument concerning different editorial standards for staff writers and freelancers does not seem relevant here.

Regarding the Africa.com source, it would be beneficial if you could further elaborate on why this particular source doesn't meet Wikipedia's acceptable source criteria. Merely stating that it's a "common practice" doesn't necessarily invalidate its reliability or relevance.

As for your final query, I assure you I have no conflict of interest as defined in WP:COI or WP:PAID. My primary aim is to ensure the accuracy and comprehensiveness of Wikipedia content.

It might be more productive to continue this discussion on the draft page, as you suggested, where other editors can weigh in on these matters. I believe a collaborative effort will lead us to a more balanced and factual representation of the topic at hand.

Thank you. Justtheeditor1 (talk) 18:32, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

I had stated that this discussion needs to be on that draft page. I will leave a note on your talk page with a warning about your removal of draft comments (second warning). --CNMall41 (talk) 18:56, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

I appreciate your reminder about the principles of respectful dialogue on Wikipedia. However, I would like to query your stance on maintaining a comment that is now known to be incorrect.

The purpose of our discussions here is to collaboratively create and improve content that is accurate, fair, and unbiased. Leaving an incorrect comment unaddressed may mislead other editors or readers, which is contrary to the essence of Wikipedia's mission.

In light of this, how should we proceed when we encounter comments that we now understand to be factually incorrect? I believe addressing this question will aid in maintaining the integrity of our discussions and the quality of the content we generate together. Justtheeditor1 (talk) 19:23, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

"we now understand to be factually incorrect" - I am at a loss here and want to AGF but you will need to take any further discussion to the draft page. As stated on your talk page, you can certainly opine on the draft, but do NOT erase other's comments. "You" (not "we") may feel those comments are incorrect but that is up to you to respond to them on that page. If you need further help, please use the HelpDesk. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:35, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Dear CNMall41,

Thank you for your response. However, I find it disconcerting that despite clear evidence provided, you are not making an effort to rectify a factual error in your comments. Peace Hyde, who is the author of the Forbes article in question, holds the position of Head of Digital Media for Forbes Africa. This is not subjective information but a verifiable fact that can be ascertained with a simple Google search.

I believe our primary goal here should be to ensure the accuracy of information and maintain the integrity of discussions on Wikipedia. Persisting with comments that have been proven incorrect could potentially mislead other editors and hamper the objective of constructive dialogue.

It's evident that your reluctance to amend your comment, in spite of having factual inaccuracies highlighted, could be perceived as obstructive rather than collaborative. Wikipedia thrives on the principle of collaborative editing, and each of us has a responsibility to contribute to it in the best way possible.

Once again, I assure you that my actions are in good faith and aimed at upholding the accuracy and reliability of Wikipedia content. I look forward to a more cooperative and constructive interaction moving forward.

Thank you. Justtheeditor1 (talk) 19:43, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

FreshTunes article declined

Hi, CNMall41!

Thank you for checking the submitted article. I followed the recommendations of the previous commentators and updated the text to make it more neutral. I also added references to the publications in trusted international media. Could you please give any examples to help me understand what is wrong with the article? I examined some other articles that meet the Wiki criteria for the publishing such as Amuse, Ditto Music, Spinnup and others. I tried to write the text as close to their style as possible.

I will greatly appreciate your help in showing my mistakes in the text so I could correct them.

Thank you so much in advance! Clara Nur (talk) 19:17, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

@Clara Nur:, I left a comment on the draft when it was declined. Were you able to review the information in the link? --CNMall41 (talk) 21:44, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi, sure I read all the information in the links. I don't really understand why you consider Musicweek, PRnewswire, Releese not reliable. Is it possible to get more specific feedback on references? Thank you in advance. Clara Nur (talk) 20:28, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

@Clara Nur:, If you followed the link to WP:ORGCRIT, it has all the feedback on those references. Can you tell me how PRnewswire is Independent within that guideline? --CNMall41 (talk) 20:55, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

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Dang it. I missed that the paragraph was another soft review attributed to the "magazine". Thanks for finishing it up. Sam Kuru (talk) 17:01, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@Kuru:, being there were about 400-500 of these, I am sure I missed a few as well. Thanks for finishing off the lot. There were about 200 left when I stopped and when I came back I see they were all gone. Great job!--CNMall41 (talk) 07:07, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

review Impulse Space

Hi CNMall41, just reaching out if you have the capacity to review and approve this draft article for Impulse Space. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Impulse_Space I've done a complete re-write since the last author's submission. Thanks for your time Rosswi88 (talk) 01:38, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

I see that it was submitted for a review so it is in queue. --CNMall41 (talk) 04:55, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

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Requesting a G.7 Speedy for draft

Hello, I'd like to request a G.7 Speedy for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Vecteezy Expressive101 (talk) 17:45, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

@Expressive101:, this is a strange request. You originally created the draft with a disclosure of paid editing (back in 2022). The draft is now being worked on by another user. What would be the reason for deletion? --CNMall41 (talk) 19:43, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

I'd like the article to be deleted via a G7 Speedy. Thank you! Expressive101 (talk) 13:37, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for reviewing this request. Can you provide an update at your convenience? I'm not familiar with the typical timeline of a G.7 Speedy. @CNMall41 Expressive101 (talk) 14:49, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I'm unclear what the status of this request is. Can you please advise? @CNMall41 Expressive101 (talk) 13:50, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

You will need to make the request at the draft. I would also advise re-reading my comment left for you above. --CNMall41 (talk) 16:42, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Ok I'm not familiar with the correct protocol for that, I am sorry. Do I simply add the request to the draft? Thanks. @CNMall41 Expressive101 (talk) 20:08, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

If you know the term G7 then you should be familiar with WP:SPEEDY which contains the procedure. If you could answer my question about the reasoning for deletion I would appreciate it. Seems like a draft you were working on as a paid editor which is now being worked on by another editor. This raises a red flag. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:30, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. To clarify, I am not a paid editor. I work for the brand that the page is about. I thought I was supposed to disclose that. There are a variety of reasons I'd like to delete it. I'm unclear why this would be an issue. I will follow the procedure in linked Wiki, thank you for sharing. @CNMall41 Expressive101 (talk) 03:15, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

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Hi Sir, I saw your comment on my Article Pravesh_Lal which is in Draftspace. I removed Co-actors row from Filmography. Requesting you to please check it again if any mistake is there please let me know and help me so i can improve my article. Awdhesh123 (talk) 08:32, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

@Awdhesh123:, I left a message on your talk page. If you can respond there I would appreciate it. There has been a previous COIN report to which have not responded so hopefully you can provide some clarification to your connection. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:23, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

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Definitely not one I created. May have been something through AfC originally. --CNMall41 (talk) 23:00, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

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Unfortunate

Its unfortunate how your efforts failed at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/J._Sai_Deepak_(2nd_nomination) despite your very good assessment of the sources.

What you really missed was, that you had to use the term Godi media while describing the mentioned sources.

If you are ready to participate once again then let me know. I am all set to launch another AfD. Capitals00 (talk) 07:22, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

I think the best route would be WP:DRV. I disagree with the close but do not blame the closer as on its face it was likely the right call. There has been a lot of gaming going on in AfDs lately and this was one of them (not all votes obviously, but some of them). Filing a SPI today on it in a few actually. Was going to file it during the AfD but did not want to give the appearance of going after editors because I disagree with their assessment. Maybe after the SPI a filing at DRV would be better. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:52, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Draft: Knest Manufacturers LLC

Hello - you deleted my article, stating that it was unambiguous advertising. I would like to improve the article, so I'm kindly requesting that you move it back to the draft space. One love, Cyberesources Cyberesources (talk) 12:41, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

The information on your talk page related to your username and PAID should address the issue. Once addressed, you will need to ask an admin to undelete as I do not have the ability to do so. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:54, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

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Please do not revert my edits, because yours are not accurate

Hello. I am a Webull insider and made changes to Webull's page in order to make the description of markets in which Webull operates, its corporate webpage and its ownership structure more accurate. The changes you reverted back to reference sources that concern the wrong entity and are no longer accurate. For example, the statement that Webull is owned by Fumi Technologies referenced an outdated brokercheck.org sheet concerning the wrong Webull entity. Webull Financial LLC, which is a subsidiary of Webull Corporation (the entity that the article is about), is a FINRA member who must publish its information on brokercheck.org, and its updated brokercheck.org sheet (available here: https://files.brokercheck.finra.org/firm/firm_289063.pdf) now states that Webull Financial LLC is ultimately held by Webull Corporation. Of course, that says nothing as to who the owners of Webull Corporation are, which is the topic of this article. I can assure that Webull Corporation is owned by a variety of global private equity firms, but this information is confidential and not something we publicly disclose. To say Webull Corporation is only owned by Chinese PE firms is simply wrong and also misleading, because Chinese PE firms hold significantly less than half of Webull's equity interests, so a broad description such as I have revised to is much more accurate. Further Webull has recently launched in several additional markets, information which is available on webullcorp.com, Webull's website for information about the company, not the webull.com site you reverted to, which is designed for customer trading. FatherOf5 (talk) 04:14, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Why do you insist on keeping the Webull article inaccurate?

I have revised the Webull page multiple time to improve its accuracy, but you insist on reverting those revisions. For example, the statement that Webull is owned by Hunan Fumi is inaccurate and not supported by the source cited. Open that source and search for the word "Fumi" and you won't find it. Again, that source is about Webull Financial LLC, not Webull Corporation, which is the subject of the article. This has real consequences as well because journalists reference Wikipedia and as a result continue to spread this incorrect information. Unless you have proof that the revisions you keep undoing are incorrect (which you of course don't), then please leave my updates alone, otherwise I will conclude that you yourself are conflict against Webull. FatherOf5 (talk) 06:32, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

@FatherOf5:, You will need to read the edit summaries as well as the warning on your talk page. As you have a COI with regards to Webull, you will need to use the talk page to request your edits. You also introduced promotional content and used a press release to source it which is not something that is done in Wikipedia. You also continue to edit war (see your talk page for additional information on that). --CNMall41 (talk) 06:35, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Also, that reference you requested was added, verifying its connection to the stated owner. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:53, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

I responded on the article Talk page. Your added reference proves nothing. FatherOf5 (talk) 07:45, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not based on what can be proved. It is based on what can be verified. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:28, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Review Request

Sir Can you Review this Draft:Tagaru Palya Arumobileworld (talk) 07:53, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

GroupM

Just wanted to make sure you saw my reply here. Happy to continue the discussion on the draft's talk page, if you prefer. Thanks again! Inkian Jason (talk) 18:31, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I saw the ping. Left you a reply. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:49, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi again, CNMall41. I am sorry to bother, but I was wondering if you might be able to revisit the GroupM draft. You'll notice I've trimmed the entry significantly, especially the number of sources (which had peaked at 66). During the drafting process, I was trying to add claims which could be attributed to multiple reliable sources. I thought I was taking a more conservative approach, but I see how including all of the supplemental citations resulted in WP:OVERKILL. I have removed all of the citations which were essentially "doubling down" on specific details, and I'd like the think the result is a cleaner, tighter entry that more clearly demonstrates notability. Additionally, I've shared some of the better sources, per your request. I sure hope you don't think your advice has been ignored.

I will be reaching out to User:Robert McClenon separately, but first I'd like to see if you're satisfied with the changes I've made to the draft. If you have any other thoughts, I welcome them here or on the draft Talk page. Thanks again, Inkian Jason (talk) 17:00, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

As stated, you are one of the few paid editors I respect based on your openness and willingness to follow Wikipedia guidelines. However, the contentiousness and underlying tone of some of your responses on the draft talk page have soured me on wanting to assist. The advice I gave is not my "preference," but based on policies and guidelines. I think best to allow another reviewer through AfC review. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:08, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Concerns

Hi @CNMall41, I saw the article you rejected on afC, curious cause the article meets WP:Companies and other GNG, so I am just curious cause I know how this review works sometimes, most of the fintechs like Moniepoint and others with Wikipedia pages all meets notability guide and at first glance you’d think one is advertising the companies, but that’s not the case, if you look at the article very well, I’ve resubmitted it for review and will let another reviewer or you take a look at it again before. Cheers B.Korlah (talk) 18:42, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Answered on the draft page. Please be aware of WP:CANVASSing as well. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:58, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

So asking another reviewer to check and advise is now canvassing, that’s really not fair and it’s really not fair, you can please go ahead and decline it again, cause this is just unethical, how did I canvass, I only asked for another look from another reviewer to advise on how to best improve cause obviously you didn’t do that. Cheers! B.Korlah (talk) 19:01, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Why this particular editor? You have already resubmitted so it is in queue for anyone at AfC. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:04, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

If this was your concern, as a reviewer and someone more experienced you advise or give a clearer reason it was declined, I reached out to Ibjaja055 cause I know he’d give a more clearer reason to why it was declined and advise on how to make it better which was entirely different from what you did, but next thing is to tell me I am canvassing, please take a look at the number of articles I’ve created, I’m not entirely a newbie here , but it’s fine. I’m trying to move it back to draft, you can help me do that. Cheers B.Korlah (talk) 19:07, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Never called you a newbie. You could have asked for clarification and I would have gladly provided it. Instead, you left a message basically stating that I was wrong and you would resubmit for someone else to review. Now we're at this point. What type of response are you expecting here?--CNMall41 (talk) 19:10, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Clarification is supposed to be provided upon review, but be that as it may, kindly move it back to draft and let it remain there, cause honestly telling me I am canvassing is just the funniest thing I’ve heard inna while. Thank you, just move it back to draft and we will all be fine. Cheers! B.Korlah (talk) 19:13, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Clarification was provided in the template. I also asked on the draft for you to point out the references that meet WP:ORGCRIT (which you have still failed to do). Instead, you have gone down this path. If you feel my actions are not appropriate, there are noticeboards where they can be addressed. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:15, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Hey! We are all about free knowledge and there’s no ill feeling whatsoever, I could have answered your questions if you didn’t term me wrongfully canvassing, but I’m over that and I’m just over this. Which is why I am simply requesting you kindly push the article back to draft or just decline the submission or tell me how to do that, let me do it myself. Cheers B.Korlah (talk) 19:18, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

It is already in draft space so not sure what you mean by "push the article back to draft." Also, I am no longer entertaining this. If you cannot take accountability for your initial comment and instead put it on me like I did you wrong, then there is no point discussing. You have already resubmitted the draft so another reviewer can come along and opine. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:25, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Like I told you, no ill feelings, I told you what I do not appreciate - calling me out wrongly, and that’s fine. Have a nice day and happy editing. Cheers ! B.Korlah (talk) 19:29, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

All the while not taking accountability for your original comment. It looks like another reviewer has already provided feedback so we are done here. If you have anything else to address with me, you will need to do it at a noticeboard, not on my talk page. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:30, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

I honestly do not know why you’re really taking this thing too deep👀👀, I mean we had a misunderstanding in communication and I explained myself and you explained yourself and I said we are good, so why you talking bout noticeboard amongst other things, I mean that’s not necessary B.Korlah (talk) 19:33, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

And I do not have anything to address with you, the other reviewer had provided the feedback I wanted and feedback taken, my only issue with you was calling me out for what I didn’t do which I expected you to advise on what to do, howbeit, that’s done and I am over that and I will still come to your talk page to ask you question if need be. Cheers! B.Korlah (talk) 19:35, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

So @CNMall41 there’s no issue whatsoever! We are good. Cheers B.Korlah (talk) 19:38, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

And you are still here, leaving three more replies despite being told to not come back to my talk page. Let me be clear........do not leave another message here. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:43, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Peter Geiger review

Hello – regarding your review of the page Peter Geiger you removed the literature category from it, which is fine. But then, how exactly is the article written like a résumé? It just outlines what he's done and his personal life in a neutral way, so I fail to see how it falls under this distinction. Thanks. TheBritinator (talk) 01:55, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

@TheBritinator: The page reads more like a LinkedIn profile which is why it was tagged (it only says where he worked with the exception of the paragraph about his personal life). Of course, there are many options you have such as bringing it up on the talk page or removing the tag yourself (which I see you have already done, albeit without an edit summary explaining why). For the notability tag, are you able to point to the references that constitute significant coverage of the individual? --CNMall41 (talk) 21:10, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Is Histories Lekiton and Liechtensteiner Volksblatt really not enough? They are two independent sources that cover him, not to mention the magazines. Though I can find more if I must. TheBritinator (talk) 21:20, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

@TheBritinator:, great question!! I am unsure if either of those sites would be considered reliable sources so it could be something to pose at WP:RSN or the appropriate language projects. I judged those based on their content. The first is a bio piece so there is no independent research or anything that talks about him in-depth. The other is just an announcement of an appointment. In my search the other day I found some references about editing the Farmers' Almanac. Is this the same person? --CNMall41 (talk) 21:24, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Its unlikely, no evidence he did that. I have made several pages on Wikipedia based of sources of Histories Lekiton and similar things, which haven't called into question WP:RSN since they were produced by various historians. Though granted those people are not living so it could very well he stricter here for all I know. TheBritinator (talk) 21:30, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

@TheBritinator:, there is a very low bar for meeting WP:ACADEMIC so some of those creations may have fallen under that guideline. I do not think Peter Geiger would based on a quick assessment but I could be wrong. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:45, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Then what is the problem? TheBritinator (talk) 17:39, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Not sure if I understand exactly what you are asking for. To clarify, I do not think the subject meets WP:GNG and they would also fail WP:NACADEMIC as I do not see any fellowships, etc. --CNMall41 (talk) 02:53, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

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Hi, I saw your post on Clan Watson talk, could you be more specific, I did what I thought was extensive editing to address the issues of conflict of interest, notability and sources. I you think there are still issues I should address could you point them out with tags in the article; your COI tag is difficult to address, I can't help who created the article. should I delete the article and recreate it? Yours ever, Czar Brodie (talk) 21:25, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

@Czar Brodie:, I will take a look and comment on the talk page. Cheers!--CNMall41 (talk) 04:58, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

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Thank you CNMall41 for the question. Miss Universe Cambodia was the same as Miss Cambodia from 2017-2018, but they created a new pageant called Miss Universe Cambodia under the same organisation from 2019. Miss Cambodia redirected their priority to Miss International from 2021. There was a Miss Cambodia in 2020 but that was for Miss World. Miss Universe Cambodia was a separate pageant under the Cambodia Models Agency (the same organisation who owned Miss Cambodia) from 2019-2022. In 2023 however, the Cambodia Models Agency had to give away their license to another company due to the agency sending other women to international pageants other than Miss Universe. Because of this, the Mohahang Production company (past owner of Miss Grand Cambodia from 2020-2022, and current owner of Miss Supranational Cambodia) was granted the license of Miss Universe Cambodia from 2023. So for a period of time, Miss Universe Cambodia was the same as Miss Cambodia from 2017-2019, but was a different pageant from 2020. CyraxSmoke (talk) 00:57, 31 October 2023 (AEST) CyraxSmoke (talk) 13:58, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

@CyraxSmoke:, thanks for this. I replied on the draft page to keep all the comments in one place. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:47, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

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Hi, thank you for your feedback on the Draft:Tim Levene page. I have edited it based on your comments and wondered if you could please have a look and see if there's anything else I need to do to get this approved? Thanks GHK2023 (talk) 16:51, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification. I left a comment on the draft page. Getting closer. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:36, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. I have made the edits as per your feedback... Please could you have a look and let me know if there is anything else that needs updating? GHK2023 (talk) 10:29, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

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Hi CNMall41, hope you are doing well

I was looking in Category:Pending AfC submissions being reviewed now and saw that you have Draft:Kenneth Roper marked as under review since the 3rd November. Are you still reviewing this article or can it be reset back in to the queue? Cheers! - Rich^T|C|E-Mail 11:16, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

@Rich Smith:, I must have marked it and walked away without coming back. I will remove now. In the future, if I have something marked for more than 10 minutes feel free to revert. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:38, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

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Thanks for reviewing Draft:Frank Slootman. I trimmed the draft to less than half its original length, per your feedback and removed the ebook another editor felt may not be reliable. Do you mind taking another look? Kiwikarma19 (talk) 00:18, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

I am hoping

Hoping that a little calm dentistry will cure the bite. I find them to be somewhat pushy. It is not the first time they and I have interacted. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 08:47, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

I was actually surprised at the back and forth during the process as I had only positive interactions previously. It felt like a horse to water situation. --CNMall41 (talk) 08:49, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Often one can make the horse drink by putting sufficient salt into its mouth 😇

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Babil Khan

Hi CNMall41, I hope you're doing well. I came across Babil Khan's article today, on which you're working, and saw that a new user WaftCinematic published it and has literally just copy-pasted Draft:Babil Khan on which I was working for a few months now and was waiting for it to be moved to the mainspace through AfC since it was rejected once by a reviewer. Now that the article is already published, what do you think can be done with the draft, delete or redirect? ManaliJain (talk) 05:16, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

@ManaliJain:, I am not sure really. There are some issues with that user moving a lot of pages to mainspace that do not meet guidelines. I am on the fence with taking Babil Khan to AfD so I was cleaning it up to try to hopefully find notability to save it. Maybe just keep the draft as-is for now so there is a copy in the event the mainspace page gets deleted?--CNMall41 (talk) 05:26, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

@ManaliJain:, actually, I think most of the offending content and references are now gone. Appears to meet WP:GNG. As far as the draft, it is up to you if you want to delete it or redirect (although I do not see many redirects from drafts). --CNMall41 (talk) 05:56, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the update. It's good to hear that the issues with the content and references have been addressed, and that the page now appears to meet WP:GNG. Appreciate your input on this matter. ManaliJain (talk) 06:29, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Heyo CNMail41

hey @CNMall41 –– after my last experience with creating a page, I must admit I am nervous to 'be bold' and try to add more pages.

My question is this, should I never publish without AfD? Is AfD the requirement? (Draftspace)

Also I did a lot of browsing and reading through the forums last night and want to say I am sorry if I came off defense. I didn't realize that people abusing wikipedia and doing paid stuff was so prevalent and bad –– and I can totally understand why someone like me (new editor) might raise eyebrows. Thanks for your help thus far! Comintell (talk) 21:42, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

I'm curious what Wikipedia "forums" this editor read. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:10, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

These: Wikipedia:Teahouse Wikipedia:Dispute resolution Wikipedia:Reference desk Comintell (talk) 03:24, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Don't be discouraged. I will tell you there is no requirement that you submit through WP:AfC, although I highly recommend it. When I first started I created pages in the mainspace and only after learning guideline more thoroughly did I realize that some of them shouldn't have been created. I subsequently went back and requested some be deleted. For someone just starting out, I would recommend going through AfC as you can get feedback on drafts prior to them being moved to the mainspace. You will pick up on guidelines quicker until you have the hang of it and are more comfortable with moving them yourself. I still occasionally submit to AfC if I feel the community may disagree with my notability assessment on a page I want to create.--CNMall41 (talk) 06:59, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! Comintell (talk) 08:03, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Tagging pages for deletion

Hello, CNMall41,

Please do not tag pages for CSD G5 speedy deletion when you suspect the page creator is a sockpuppet or when you file a SPI case. Please wait until they've been identified as a block-evading sockpupet by a Checkuser or an SPI admin clerk. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:51, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi, @Liz:, I never do it on suspicion. They were blocked a little while ago as an obvious sock of the original blocked/banned user:Bikrookanpurgangster. --CNMall41 (talk) 04:54, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

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Kavya Kishor is a notable magazine. So I think it may eligible for approve. Mohammad Husen (talk) 17:02, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

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G5 declined

Shaheen Sayyed was created by a sock. It is also a spam article. Why was the G5 declined by an admin. What is the next step to delete this article? 2409:40F3:28:76FE:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 15:03, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

This is a question for the declining admin as I was not involved with the speedy deletion request. It looks like it was requested by @Liz: for A7 which was declined on November 24, 2023, with your nomination under A5 declined on November 27, 2023. Would be eligible for speedy if the sock is confirmed but there could be a number of reasons for the decline. Pinging @Ivanvector: who made the actual decline as I don't have the same information they have so cannot opine about reasoning. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:40, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

The speedy deletion criteria are not mandatory (possibly excepting WP:G10 and WP:G12) - tagging an article does not mean that it will be deleted. They are meant to be used for uncontroversial deletions, and once a tag has been removed then deletion is by definition controversial, thus speedy deletion is no longer available. I started a deletion discussion for the article earlier today, you're welcome to comment there. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 21:43, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@Ivanvector:, Which makes perfect sense. I am looking at the references now and will leave a !vote. I see the comments on the SPI as well. Only reason I added to it is because I saw the case was open and there was a comment at this SPI I filed which mentions one was already open for connected users and requested to merge the two. Let me know for sure if should just start a new one for these when they come up as I don't want to bog down the process. Cheers!--CNMall41 (talk) 21:48, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

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Hi, @CNMall41, hope all are good and well. As you have redirect tye page Family Star to Vijay Deverakonda as per deletion discussion. But I want to tell you that once the page has been deleted for the reason: WP:TOOSOON and It was later accepted for mainspace. I think you have done this for previous reason. Please see the matter. Thank you in anticipation. Rasel Hasan🇮🇳 (talk) (contribs) 11:04, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

@Mr. Rasel Hasan:, AfC is not an "approval," it is a review by editors who will move something to the mainspace if they feel it is notable. This page was already decided at the discussion to be a redirect so undoing the page that was created was an WP:ATD. You are free to remove if you so wish but I would need to then take it back to AfD for discussion. I will say I am suspicious that despite two previous declines, moving it to the mainspace, draftification, then re-moving it to the main space, then an AfD discussion for redirect (all within a two month period), you would attempt to recreate the page so soon. I have to ask if you have a WP:COI with regards to this topic, especially per WP:PAID. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:23, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Business trends

Hey,

actually I cannot understand why you removed the business trends I added in the Alibaba Group article. The readability of the former table was bad. That's more a reason to improve the readablity than to delete it per WP:FIXTHEPROBLEM. I also cannot see anything 'promotional' in that table. It's neutral data based information that improves the understanding of the company's state for the reader. Actually the infobox and the text in the articles of many company articles 'host a company's financials'. Wikipedia is surely not a 10K. A 10K has dozens of pages and that table is less than one page - focused on the key figures.

Can you give the WP rule that says key business figures require consensus on the article's talk page? WikiPate (talk) 04:07, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

The specific WP rule would be WP:ONUS which is the policy for inclusion. Alibaba is a publicly traded company so it would be promotional to promote figures like this unless there is some type of context (meaning, why is it relevant). In regards to infoboxes, those only show the current company snapshot so it would be a false comparison as what was removed is a historical record dating back to 2016. So it was removed under WP:NOT, specifically WP:PROMO and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Best place for this discussion is on that talk page. --CNMall41 (talk) 07:56, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Irritating all of us

What are thinking about always reverting the changes eventhough which i have made it correctly. Deleting the pages saying that abusing accounts blocking You are a idiotic user nonsense.... CVSDW (talk) 07:54, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

"All of us" is the issue. WP:UPE is the issue. Sorry, not sorry. --CNMall41 (talk) 07:58, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Because of you and User:Liz only Jishnu Raghavavan article has been deleteted. Why are making so upset I don't know CVSDW (talk) 09:18, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia means is free to edit but beacause of you all of fellow users I'm unfree TO Edit and again my edits are reverting with your certain rules like Speedy deletion, SOCK, CSD, COI...You making me so upset... CVSDW (talk) 09:24, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Maybe you should stop editing in violation of WP:UPE. That would help. --CNMall41 (talk) 09:55, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

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Regarding Jishnu Raghavan

Hi. I've always admired and still admires your contributions. I just wanted to say something regarding Jishnu Raghavan. I still don't think it has to be G5'd. Firstly I don't believe any UPE is involved. Secondly Jishnu Raghavan was a well-known Malayalam actor and easily passes WP:GNG and WP:ENT. Multiple editors including myself had objected the G5. I must say that it is totally unfair that we do not have an article about him. Despite everything, I would have written the article myself. But the problem is that I'm back on traveling like I was at the end of October, and I'm even worried about my active participation in the upcoming NPP backlog drive. I'm not sure how long I'll be able to contribute to wikipedia at my usual rate because I'm considering taking a permanent break owing to my demanding and hectic travel schedule. Sooner or someday I will look into creating the article myself. Finally I would like to appreciate you for keeping an eye on the newly emerging socks. Thanks again. Thilsebatti (talk) 16:20, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

See the thread above (irritating "us" all). This is a sock farm of UPE. I would again refer you to the links left at COIN. Also, if you could address the question posed to you at COIN about the IP addresses as it is slightly concerning to me given the activity of this farm. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:31, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi. I have found out from the log that Geniac has configured pending changes settings for Jishnu Raghavan on 04:10, 5 May 2022. I can't find anything before 2022. Is it correct that Jishnu did not have an article in enwp until 2022, or am I specifically missing something? Because I'm still amazed that a popular actor like Jishnu had no article even after his death in 2016. Another fact is that there is an article about him in 20 other languages ([3]). Thilsebatti (talk) 06:02, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@Thilsebatti:, I cannot see the log. Can you point me to it? I am still wondering how someone can see the edit history of a deleted page. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:00, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

I cannot see the edit history of the deleted page as well. I was talking about this ([4]). There is no records before May 2022. Does that mean that his article was first created in 2022? Thilsebatti (talk) 04:14, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

@Thilsebatti: Hopefully you can understand my point of view here. At COIN, you commented "What about the content addition from IP's. If I remember correctly, the version deleted by Liz had some content added by IP's. Is it the same editor behind those IP's?" You were not involved with that page, only the recreation of that page. The log you are looking at does not indicate the page deleted by Liz was edited by IPs. I want to assume good faith but it is just strange to me. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:37, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

I think you don't understand the point I was attempting to convey to you. I have reviewed the article twice. I also placed some maintenance tags to the article and warned the editor to declare any COI, which they ignored. Because the subject is a well-known face and generates interest to me, I can recall part of the article's history. However, I'm not sure which version the IP's added the content to. That is why I made that comment and I don't see what the problem is if I do so. Thank you for assuming good faith. But to be honest, I feel like that you have been acting as if I am one of the perpetrators since the beginning of this discussion at COIN, which is really upsetting. You just commented above that you were not involved with that page, only the recreation of that page. I don't understand why you made this comment. Thilsebatti (talk) 09:17, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Just to be clear, I don't think you are involved or I would have stated so. Please don't take this as an accusation. Your comments and advocating for the page raised an eyebrow and I find it best to ask questions than to simply let things build a cloud. Me asking questions have led to better understanding of editors in good standing and have also led me to finding people abusing Wikipedia (see thread below for discussion about an artist - now blocked SOCK). I honestly would rather be editing pages on companies or golf (topics I enjoy) than chasing around paid socks attempting to game the system.

You are correct in that I do not understand your point which is why I have been asking for clarification. Your statements made it seem that you were familiar with the history of a deleted page despite nothing evident of you being involved with the version you referenced (only clarification given by you is the most recent comment above). As far as a notable page not being created, it is sad that a paid sock continues to recreate the page. Unfortunately, this is not the type of conduct that is acceptable for Wikipedia which is what I stated here and at COIN. If we are just going to allow this type of conduct because a page is notable, then everyone on Wikipedia should become a paid editor and bludgeon the process until an article is finally created. I could list about 20 editors I have interacted with who could do a better job at it.--CNMall41 (talk) 22:46, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

I can understand your dedication to preserving the integrity of this site. One of my main goals on Wikipedia is to write articles about underserved topics, particularly women. So you can image how frustrated I would be if it were not possible to create an article about an actor that readily meets our notability requirements. But they had resumed socking, which had demotivated me to write Jishnu's article. Before ending this discussion, I would like to ask you one more question. Why do you think any UPE is involved in creating an article for a person who is no more alive? Thilsebatti (talk) 04:33, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

@Thilsebatti:, I won't opine on notability as its hard to get the ambition to review when socks keep trying to jam it down our throats. That is a great question about PAID as well as one would assume that it is not paid since the person is no longer living. However, there are a number of things that make me believe paid such as the conduct of this sock and others in the film-related space. While I do not know their motivation, the editing is likely done to promote other film related pages. Having a page for one of the actors with a list of their credits promotes those films and the studios who create and distribute them. Those investigations is what led me to the page in the first place. So while I cannot say for sure, it is a strong likelihood it is paid. What causes some stress is the fact they could have just submitted this as a draft and if notable it would likely have been approved. Instead, these socks submit, received feedback about improvements that need to be made, then circumvent the process and move the pages anyway (not the most recent time with this page but with many others they have been involved with). Another sign of paid editing. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:39, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Regarding Jishnu Raghavan article I'm here to Say truth

I'm Arjun Menon alias Helloo 68. I'm here to Share some truth to you. Why i'm eager to Jishnu Raghavan article means. Jishnu is one of the notable actor in Malayalam and also he was my late best friend from my childhood so don't badly understand that I have obsession on his article. First time, I had started my Contribution for Jishnu on December 2021. Unexpectedly Jishnu's article deleted on 8 June 2022 and deleted by user:Jimfbleak I will say the reason for that too why he was deleted the article I had created article for the film Choonda which was acted by my friend Jishnu I had created successfully but suddenly deleted because he mentioned that no sources and copyvio. Deletion of Choonda article is really acceptable for me but suddenly at the same time that user deleted Jishnu Raghavan's article also It's totally unfair.

So only after 1 yr I had struggled but created successfully that also again deleted. Anyways, i know that again u all will block me as Sockpuppet if you block me block again means also no problem for me. The sockpuppet cannot able to create article, but administrators users like you can create article right. Can u do one favour?The Favour is u should create article for Jishnu Raghavan. Mark my words, After creation of Jishnu Raghavan article I will not come again as SOCK and not disturb anyone unwantedly please. Please. Whoever will create article for Jishnu Raghavan it is ok for me. But please there should be an article for Jishnu in english wikipedia article for Jishnu Raghavan please now i'm so helpless please....😣 🙏 🙏 🙏 Arjun Menon1980 (talk) 16:34, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

You are NOT one person ("Irritating all of us" - thread above). I also find your veiled threat of continuing to return appalling. As far as your request for me to create the page after you used numerous accounts to WP:BLUDGEON the process and waste everyone's time, you must be out of your damn mind. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:33, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

CNMall41 that "Irritating all of us" is sended by only myself. But now other than ur help I doesn't have any option please. I will convey my Apology for wasting ur time. But, please create english wikipedia article for my Late friend and Film actor Jishnu Raghavan. After creating article for him seriously I will not come again unwantedly. I hope you will fulfill my wish. This was my last conservation. 2409:4072:6189:5A93:A99D:E4DE:A0F2:B3DB (talk) 05:18, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

CNMall41 Please reply mee 2409:40F4:2B:3469:BC7D:7AE4:BD37:CDB7 (talk) 13:38, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) I think CNMall41 has acted exactly correctly in this circumstance. The shame of it all is that it is the proponents of the subject that are doing the most damage to the subject's prospects of ever having a Wikipedia article. BD2412 T 16:57, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

You are also likely to get the IP range you are editing from blocked. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:46, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Discussion about an artist page

Dear @CNMall41 hope you are good ... You have added coi tag on a page even though I had informed you about it that I am not directly associated with this topic. She is a very well-known name in indian theater industry so I thought of writing about her.. Worldiswide (talk) 02:20, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

@Worldiswide:, I did ask a specific question on your talk page about ever using more than one account for any Wikimedia projects which have failed to answer despite editing Wikipedia and responding to other notes on your talk page thereafter. If you can address that question it would help. Also, I am wondering if you have ever edited Wikipedia without being logged into an account. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:44, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Dear @CNMall41 It is possible that I may have edited something in the past without logging into my account. And I would like to tell that right now I am not using any other account other than mine, but sometimes for help (when I do not understand something) I definitely take the help of some Wikipedia usar or editor Worldiswide (talk) 04:41, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@Worldiswide:, This image was uploaded to Wikimedia Commons by user Bollywoodphoto on October 22, 2023. You then uploaded a cropped version of the image exactly 2 minutes later. This image was uploaded by you on October 1, 2023 with a similar caption as that uploaded by Bollywoodphoto (and you credited the image to "Bollywood Hungama." This image was uploaded by Bollywoodphoto on October 3, 2023 and you uploaded a cropped version exactly 7 minutes later. Were this my first day on Wikipedia I would say this is a coincidence, but given your editing behavior of pages that involve socks from the film industry and the relationship to the images (take Vishal Nayak for example), I would say there is a strong likelihood you have a conflict of interest. I would request that you make the appropriate disclosure of these conflicts so we can move forward with any edits you are requesting on the Preeta Mathur page. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:15, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Dear @CNMall41 You are right in thinking but please see my side once.

The first thing is that bollywoodphoto user has photographs related to all the industries. He is a photographer as he told me and has also written on his talk page. While writing the article, I have asked him for information about photographs through email several times. If they have it, they upload it. The second thing is that I did not know that doing this is against the rules, for which I apologize.

If I had known about this, I would not have asked for photos from any other user like this. For example, I could have uploaded this photo myself because it could be used fair. Similarly, many photos of this artist were also available for fair use, like this and this one.. I had no intention of violating Wikipedia's rules.

I hope you will understand me sir, I assure you that in future I will not use photographs which have been uploaded by any user. This was all a mistake. I have no affiliation with any artist. If so, then I will take your guidance. I will definitely reveal it but it is not there yet. thanks for telling me about it Worldiswide (talk) 02:51, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

@Worldiswide:, I do not see that user having email enabled nor do I see a discussion on their talk page that you engaged in. There is no way to know their email unless you know them personally as their username does not indicate their real name. I feel at this point you do not wish to disclose your actual conflict so this would be something to address at the conflict of interest noticeboard. I do not see the issue being resolved through discussion here. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:30, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Regarding the maintenance tag on Who Said Boys Can't Wear Makeup? article

Hi, CNMall41. I hope you are doing well. I am aware that you have put the maintenance tag on the article, Who Said Boys Can't Wear Makeup? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Said_Boys_Can%27t_Wear_Makeup%3F), stating that some of the sources are unreliable. But the sources that I have put like East Mojo (https://www.eastmojo.com/), Northeast Now (https://nenow.in/) , Scroll.in (https://scroll.in/) , The Indian Express (https://indianexpress.com/), The Sangai Express (https://www.thesangaiexpress.com/), Imphal Times (https://www.imphaltimes.com/) are all reliable and independent sources. Can you please enlighten me on this? I hope this issue gets resolved. Thank you. Manipuri Mirror (talk) 08:42, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Just one example is East Mojo. I question its reliability and will bring to the reliable source noticeboard in hopes of getting more opinions. However, assuming it IS notable, the specific reference used from that publication falls under WP:NEWSORGINDIA and cannot be used. Finally, I see that EastMojo was created by and edited by sock puppets so that page is now up for deletion. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:45, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

RfA

Hi CNMall41! I noticed you've been very active at AfD and other maintenance venues over the years but have never requested adminship. Would you be interested in having the admin toolset? It seems to me from an initial look that you could make good use of the extra buttons. Sam Walton (talk) 21:51, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, @Samwalton9:. I honestly never gave it serious consideration. What does the process involve? --CNMall41 (talk) 22:33, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

@CNMall41 The full overview is outlined at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship - in short, a one-week long community discussion, prompted by nominations from one or more editors. I would be interested in nominating you, if you're interested. My personal process is to create a user-space venue for drafting responses to the standard questions and discussing any potential issues that might crop up during the request process (see previous examples at User:Samwalton9/RfA). Let me know if you're interested and I can get that process started :) Sam Walton (talk) 22:56, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

@Samwalton9:, thank you for the outreach and the offer. I appreciate the willingness to help as well. Let me take a few days to think about it. I think I would love to tools but don't want to jump into anything unless I think it would be beneficial to the community. --CNMall41 (talk) 23:07, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

No problem at all - just let me know. Sam Walton (talk) 10:07, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm not a SOCK

I had thought to create articles for Jishnu Raghavan and other 3 articles so only I linked wikilined to them. Then now, only I saw my name is under SPI clerk. After that I checked this Jishnu Raghavan's deletion history then I thought now I no need to create is page. Thank you for Alerting me Sreenu S (talk) 11:04, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm glad to speak with u can you give some ideas about wikinews Sreenu S (talk) 11:06, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't believe you. Not only are you likely a sock, but also likely fall under WP:PAID and WP:COI. If you review those guidelines and make the appropriate disclosure about your affiliation, there is possibly a way forward with your editing. However, I assume you will not make such disclosure so it is what it is. --CNMall41 (talk) 11:09, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Anyways, Thank you for guiding me Sreenu S (talk) 11:11, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm not a paid editor but why COI is showing Sreenu S (talk) 11:12, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

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New draft

Hi CNMall41, thanks for your feedback on the article I submitted. Following your suggestions, I tried to clean up the references and remove any content that sounds more promotional rather than strictly factual. I’m hoping that you’re still willing to review the next draft before I resubmit. If not, no problem. Thanks again… Msbreslow (talk) 14:49, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the note. I will comment at the submission page so that all comments are in one place. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:21, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

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Thank you. You as well!!! --CNMall41 (talk) 06:50, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

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Declined G4

Hi there, FYI this. Not an ideal situation to be caught in for any of us, but unfortunately this will need to go back to AfD. Sorry, and thanks in advance, Daniel (talk) 11:30, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

@Daniel:, thanks for the notice. I know it puts you in a tough spot. Are you able to look at the SPI I filed yesterda? I know that CUs are extremely busy and many people are out for the holidays, but user is still editing. It is part of a larger sock farm from a company called Waft Cinema. This user is also still editing so if we can get a blocked based on WP:DUCK at least I can start cleaning up their PAID work. The pages they are creating would then be eligible for G5 as well. --CNMall41 (talk) 02:38, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi CNMall41, I'm an absolute novice (worse than a novice, actually) with SPI so I'll probably swerve this one, if that's OK. If it gets to later this week and it still hasn't been actioned, flick me a ping and I'll see if I can rustle up a CU or experienced admin to assist. Cheers, Daniel (talk) 03:43, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

I completely understand. Believe me. I am sure I am driving CUs crazy at this point. Enjoy your holidays. --CNMall41 (talk) 03:51, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Its an obvious UPE. I have nominated it for AFD. Thilsebatti (talk) 05:54, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

@Thilsebatti:, sigh. I see they also removed the AfD template from the page which I just restored. Also filed with WP:AIV as its disruptive at this point. --CNMall41 (talk) 08:43, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

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Failure? Not that simple

Napoleon. I was merely restoring the status quo. Calling it a box office failure(diff) is not that simple, as the box office section of the article explains. If as you say the New York Times called it a failure that needs to be made clearer in the article body before it is summarised in the lead section. Anyway someone else also reverted the change as WP:OR. -- 109.79.164.19 (talk) 00:14, 28 December 2023 (UTC)