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Hello Jen, I hope you understand my reasons for suspicion on the Lunada Bay Boys article. The Bay Boys are not like other gangs, they have money, and they heavily involve themselves online (the article would be reasonable target). Wrong or not - my concerns were valid in the context of the article. I appreciate your sincerity regarding where you found the article, but also your knowledge of law to better its content. Anyways, now that my suspicions are cleared, I apologize for any wrong assessments on my part. And if you continue to edit the article, I would be happy to do so with you constructively and help maintain its integrity. [qub/x q;o++a] ++ 00:44, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Apology accepted. I have the attention span of a gnat, but I'll try to check back in on the article in the days/weeks to come. Calliopejen1 (talk) 00:59, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Absolutely, thanks for help on cleanup. There's a lot more work to be done. [qub/x q;o++a] ++ 09:55, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

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How can I create a page? Whoofta (talk) 20:55, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

@Whoofta: Provided you're here to make constructive edits, you can visit Wikipedia:Article wizard. Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:21, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

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Would you please add something?Xx236 (talk) 09:08, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I do not know any more about this topic. I believe that I created the article to accommodate another user's translation request. Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:51, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
@Xx236: Me neither; I could probably translate some more of it, but the I'd be loathe to do so, without a bunch more references at the original German article. If you can get them to do so, ping me whenever and I'll have another look. Mathglot (talk) 20:01, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

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I have looked back through my old edits and can't find any clues as to why I might have created this article or where I got the information from. So I would agree the article should be deleted. Deb (talk) 12:54, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

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Welcome back to WP, Calliopejen1. You may or may not be fluent in English, but I would like to point out a situation in which your approach to spelling the English word "minnow" apparently inserted a great number of misspellings throughout the above-referenced article. Thank you for your efforts to improve Wikipedia.--Quisqualis (talk) 21:58, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

This was a replace-all typo. Calliopejen1 (talk) 00:02, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

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An experiment (possibly involving you)

I am trying an experiment and would like to know if you would be willing to contribute.

I am actively involved in OTRS. You probably know (although a surprising number of editors do not) that OTRS is the place where readers and some brand-new editors write to for assistance. (Also, licensing of text and images is handled there but that's unrelated to my request).

We have a challenge that the number of volunteers isn't quite sufficient to keep our backlog adequately managed. I am trying to explore a number of alternatives to address the problem. While one of the solutions involves adding more general-purpose agents (and if you are interested let's talk), it is my belief that there are some people who have more than enough to do and are not interested in taking on a responsibility which might involve a substantial amount of time, but might be willing to help out in a very limited, defined way.

My experiment is to define some highly qualified editors who have particular experience in a particular area. Then, if a query comes into OTRS in that area, we would ask the editor to help respond, but we would not ask that editor to become a general agent, logging in at various times to see if there's anything they can help answer.

I'm contacting you because of your contributions to Wikipedia:Translation. Every once in a while, someone writes into us telling us that they have some language skills and wonder if there's a way they can help with translations, or perhaps the opposite, they know of an article in one language and would like it translated into another language and wonder how they would go about asking for help.

I field a number of these requests and always point them to Wikipedia:Translation or Wikipedia:Translate us or both. Sometimes that's sufficient. However, sometimes, such as today, the customer thanked me for the links but asked who they should contact if you have further questions. I assume there are some editors who were knowledgeable (I hope you are one of them) but I'm definitely not one of them. My hope is that you would agree to be a contact person in case there are queries regarding translations. You could help hold their hand a little bit to get them started.Unlike a general-purpose OTRS agent, who are to be looking at several tickets every week, my guess is this would involve a ticket or two a month.

As I mentioned, this is an experiment and we haven't thought through how this should work but I'd like to start with some feedback from you to see if this makes any sense at all.S Philbrick(Talk) 18:24, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I have this Talk page on my Watchlist; co-incidentally, I have just roughed-out a message and machine-translated into Italian. I would like to request a Flickr user change the Creative Commons licence to allow me to use a few images on En Wiki articles. Is there any Wiki-resource that I could approach to look over and improve upon the machine translation? Many thanks.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 20:42, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

@Sphilbrick: Yes, I'd be happy to help periodically with translation-related questions. Would this mean interacting with inquirers on my talk page, through the OTRS interface (whatever that is), or via normal email? @Rocknrollmancer: I would try asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Italy or looking in Category:User it-N for a user who is recently active. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:21, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 18:51, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the positive response. As I mentioned, this is an experiment and I'm making it up as I go along. We only have one other example in this experiment and that one wasn't by design it just turned into one. Editor Doc James became an OTRS agent in the normal way but has an incredible amount on his plate, and finds it difficult to act like a canonical agent — that is log into the OTRS interface look for some open tickets and picks him to work on. Over time, what I have done is if I run into a ticket that contains a question that is fairly technical in a medical sense, I drop a note on his talk page with a link to the ticket and ask him to work on it. I am envisioning the same sort of process for you. I would work with you to become qualified as an agent but not expect you to login and look for your own tickets. I would inform other agents that if an issue comes up involving translation they of course can't handle it themselves, but they might drop a note on your talk page with a link to the ticket and ask you to look at it.
My next step is to run this by the other OTRS admins and see if there are any special issues we need to consider. Thanks again for your offer.--S Philbrick(Talk) 20:30, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

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Hi , the image you have in the Oskar Homolka template is not him. It's actor Tom Moore.Koplimek (talk) 15:14, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Fixed Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:53, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

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(talk page stalker) I'm not too familiar with Afc, but "insufficient content"? That's an absurd result concerning this article, which has way more content than thousands of articles on Wikipedia, and I'd say is even beyond a stub in its current state. The correct reason, if there is one for this draft, is the one made by commenter Kees08, namely, that it appears to be a duplicate of Ruth Virginia Bayton, in which case the result should be merge, not "insufficient content". Mathglot (talk) 18:54, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Mathglot, unfortunately the AFC script has a limited number of "pre-programmed" decline reasons, and the "this needs to be merged" decline has the text you see above. It does, however, state that the content should be merged into the target article, which is why it was used. Primefac (talk) 19:26, 9 May 2018 (UTC) (please ping on reply)
Ah, okay. Some templates are better than others at not ruffling feathers, and this one vicariously ruffled mine on CalliopeJen's behalf. Thanks for taking the time to reply. Mathglot (talk) 19:34, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
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Confusion

Can you help me with something? Trying to understand why you applied the {{promising draft}} template to User:Theatre_in_Paris/sandbox/Theatre_in_Paris.

  1. The user is indefinitely blocked 17:27, 16 August 2017 Widr (talk | contribs) blocked Theatre in Paris (talk | contribs) with an expiration time of indefinite (account creation blocked) ({{uw-spamublock}})
  2. The title of the page alone should have been a clue that the page didn't need to exist (page titled the same as the username)

Can I ask that you please be more cautious in your application of the promising draft template as this is not the first time that you've applied the template to pages for which the editor is indefinitely blocked for spam/COI. Hasteur (talk) 02:00, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

I did not investigate the author of the page, I only looked at the content of the page. It is slightly promotional, but not speedy-deletable IMO, and it included references to articles in two major newspapers (as well as other references -- not sure about how good those are). I disagree that the title alone indicates that it should be deleted. Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:32, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

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Promising draft

Though "Editors should not remove this tag unless they placed it themselves or the page creator placed it," at least seven drafts you marked as {{promising draft}} no longer bear the template. Other editors may have objected to the improper removals and already restored the template. However, you may want to check the pages yourself; furthermore, if you would like any of the above pages or other pages you have tagged with {{promising draft}} to retain the template, then you may want to monitor them. A convenient list of all promising drafts that is not affected by decategorization is manually maintained at User:Godsy/Promising drafts. Warmest regards, — Godsy (TALKCONT) 05:47, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

@Uanfala: You may find the above of interest. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 16:25, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
I don't want to spend that much effort on the draft discussion because frankly it is fucking depressing to me. This edit exemplifies the problem. A draft cannot be promising because it lacks sources?? I just moved it to mainspace. I think this is going to be my next approach, if I delve back into drafts at all. There is no benefit from deleting an article like this, about a plausibly encyclopedic target. But no drafts are safe from editors that are hell-bent on deleting all drafts once six months pass. Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:35, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
  • I'm afraid I'll echo Calliopejen1's sentiment here: I don't think I've seen an area of wikipedia as spectacularly dysfunctional, and an editing atmosphere as disagreeable as the one that surrounds the handling of drafts. – Uanfala (talk) 18:01, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

You will need to defend why exactly you have AFCH script access after submitting and accepting a draft with zero sources. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation#Accepting_a_Draft_with_Zero_sources? Also Kindly be more careful where you put the "Promising Draft" template as I've found quite a high error rate in your applications of it. Legacypac (talk) 18:25, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

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Nils Forsberg

I think your assessment is 100% correct. I added nine sources, mostly factual items for DOB and DOD and for the Paris salon medal. 104.163.150.200 (talk) 22:05, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. This is all insanity in my opinion. The delete voters also threatened me with desysopping for moving the article to mainspace. ??????? Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:09, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
I would just ignore the criticisms, and not engage the editor who rhymes with Pasteur as their arguments are not making any sense. Not worth your time. Other editors have chimed in with MANY sources! See the recent additions. It's obviously a spectacularly incorrect nomination. I'm not really sure why they are so intent on prosecuting you, but I have suspicions that would be of the most stereotypical.104.163.150.200 (talk) 22:15, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Borja Pérez (actor). Thanks! Legacypac (talk) 01:09, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Borja Pérez (actor) (June 3)

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It appears that you tagged Draft:Monster Reunion as a Promising Draft on 21 February 2018 (and it appears that you tagged a large number of drafts then, as in you may have been searching for which drafts were promising). However, now User:Legacypac has nominated Monster Reunion for deletion, and you have !voted Delete, saying that there is no independent evidence of notability. Does this mean that you have reconsidered your tagging? If so, would it be possible to review some of your other Promising Draft tags and see if they were mistaken and can be removed? Robert McClenon (talk) 18:19, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

I would appreciate an explanation. If the explanation is simply that you made a mistake, that is all right. However, if so, since some of us think that some of your other taggings at the time were also mistaken, would it be possible to recheck them? Robert McClenon (talk) 18:19, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: I responded at the MFD page. I will say that this was a borderline case. More generally, my view is that {{promising draft}} is appropriate not only where I think the article should be kept, but where it I think that reasonable minds could differ about whether it should be kept (and thus a discussion is warranted). FWIW I am going through postponed and promising draft pages as I can, mostly to move to mainspace where appropriate. If I find any tags that I placed that I no longer think are warranted, I will delete them. In any case, it appears that {{Promising draft}} won't prevent deletion much longer. Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:23, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
User:Calliopejen1 - First, as to whether Promising Draft will prevent deletion much longer, it is hard to say what the final result of the RFC will be. Second, are you aware that by apparently haphazard tagging, you are causing a reaction which is that users like Legacypac who are concerned about crud in draftspace will be dragging the drafts directly to MFD, which may not be your intention? Third, since you do appear to acknowledge that you did engage in overtagging, review of your tags is appreciated. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:07, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm fine with them being nominated at WP:MFD--what I don't want is the clock to run and them to be deleted without discussion. I don't know where I "acknowledge[d] that [I] did engage in overtagging".... But like I said before, I'm checking promising drafts and postponed drafts and if I see any I don't think are warranted, I will remove them. Or if another editor wants to ask me about removing one, I would be open to that too. If I had been asked about Draft:Monster Reunion by someone who looked at the article and explained why it should be removed, I think I would have willingly removed it. (Again, my goal is to prevent these drafts from getting deleted without more thorough review by others. The problem with WP:G13 is that many admins delete without thinking once the six months are up. Happy to provide examples upon request.) Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:12, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I'd remove the {{promising draft}} tag now from Monster Reunion (because my goal of getting other eyes on the draft has been accomplished), but it wouldn't really accomplish anything at this point. If it's hopeless crud, we should just delete it without delay at the MFD instead of sending it back for six more months in purgatory. Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:14, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

I know I risk piling on here, and I mean no disrespect. I do want to throw my very small 2 cents in here and note that the threat of G13-deletion and HasteurBot's notification got me off my ass and forced me to edit more and get John Raley into main-space. Surely that's how the current process is supposed to work? If someone put a tag like {{promising draft}} on the article out of the ether earlier in the process and that had the effect of removing the enforced activity in draft-space, I doubt that article would have gotten into mainspace through AFC. Of course, this could very well be an artifact of my chronic procrastination... Rejewskifan (talk) 04:27, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Gymnastics Contribution, Follow Up?

Greetings! Clearly, you are a much more advanced Wikipedia than I am!  :)

I wanted, firstly, to thank you for the photo you provided of the U.S. Women's Gymnastics Team in 1981 with Nancy Reagan on the [International Invitational 1980] page. I was wondering where you got that from. I am really ignorant of photo protocol in regards to improving the wikification of pages herein, so I don't know where to get them or make sure copyright is not being infringed upon, etc. etc. Would you mind doing any of the following: providing the men's photo also; or telling me where you got such a photo; or pointing me to a resource where my questions about the above could be answered.

I hate to be a pest, but I don't acquire technical skills so easily. But I do thank you for the attention you have already provided. I love your main page photo, by the way, with the cigar. Miloluvr (talk) 14:54, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

AFC

Hello I saw a couple of your recent AFC approvals and have some concerns,one has a pretty fair chunk of copyvio on it. The other has absolutely no sources.

In the future please be more careful when moving things to main space. --Cameron11598 (Talk) 21:36, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

@Cameron11598: Apologies about Milanka Dinic. I'm actually going to investigate that one further because I thought it was likely it was a translation of the Serbian article, and was going to add a translation tag once confirmed post-transfer. I stand by my transfer of tile wisdom, because there appear to be plenty of sources -- just not in a language that I (or presumably the other reviewer) understand. Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:40, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
But wouldn't it make more sense to have the draft author add a source and then move it? Or ask for help from someone who speaks dutch to translate a source and then approve? The point of WP:ACTRIAL before it came permanent from what I recall was to prevent un-sourced or poorly sourced material from making its way to main space. --Cameron11598 (Talk) 21:44, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Perhaps in theory, but most draft authors never come back after submission. This is what I saw as a very likely notable subject with a fine definition and a longstanding article on a different Wikipedia, plus tons of sources that I can't read. I put it in mainspace and someone collaborated and supplied a source. I think that is a good result. Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:46, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
@Cameron11598: By the way, it does seem to be an adaptation/translation of the Serbian article. I'm not finding an exact source for the Serbian article though. I presume it is also a copyvio but still investigating.... (Hard when I don't speak Serbian.)
The Serbian article comes from here. Tricky to find it because the source is in Latin script and the sr.wiki article is in Cyrillic script (in least in the default settings I see). I left a message at sr:Википедија:Трг/Ауторско право alerting the sr.wiki editors to the issue. Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:53, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm rather concerned about the tile wisdom article. Adding a Google Books link is not the same as providing sources, particularly when you cannot read those books and cannot assess what they say (or whether they're reliable - several looked like personal anecdotes or works of fiction to me). To make matters worse, the premise of that article is false; a tegeltjeswijsheid is not the tile but the aphorism; it can be applied to aphorisms that aren't put on tiles, too (compare this news article about a tegeltjeswijsheid by Albert Einstein - and no, Einstein wasn't a hobby potter). So you effectively rubber-stamped an unsourced, factually incorrect draft because Google Books showed some results you couldn't read and the Dutch Wikipedia had an article you also couldn't read? Huon (talk) 22:05, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
I did see that it applies to aphorisms that are not put on tiles, presumably metaphorically. But the word literally means "tile wisdom", and clearly if it is being used to describe an aphorism, it is because that is the sort of aphorism that would be put on a tile. I don't think the draft is factually incorrect, but perhaps could be expanded to cover the metaphorical usage. I also saw that many of the Google Books hits were poor-quality, but I could tell that the term is one that is in extremely wide use in Dutch. Please nominate this for deletion if you do not think it is an appropriate article. Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:09, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
This is totally not a reliable source but explains the point of the metaphorical use of "tile wisdom": "In Holland we love putting little one liners on little delft blue tiles so we can hang them our walls to show people what our moral, spiritual and/or mental standpoint is. This is so ingrained into Dutch culture that we call armchair psychological affirmations and cliches 'Tile Wisdom' (Tegelgetjeswijsheid)."[1] Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:14, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Here you are. To me there's a significant difference between an aphorism (tegeltjeswijsheid) and a piece of pottery (maybe "wijsheidstegeltje", but I don't think the Dutch actually use the term). Huon (talk) 22:49, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Test for article wizard (June 8)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Calliopejen1 was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
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A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Thanks for the review, I appreciate your good work. SegunMicheal (talk) 09:53, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Zelana Montminy page

I have made edits to the page Zelana Montminy that adhere close to a previous version of the page. Since that version of the page was approved and was on Wikipedia for years, I do not believe that the page should be deleted because the subject lacks notability. If there's anything you feel the page should have to avoid deletion, please advise - but the subject is published author and public figure and I do not believe their page should be deleted on any issues relating to notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CreoMontminy (talkcontribs) 15:57, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

@CreoMontminy: Articles sometimes stick around for some time even if they aren't appropriate topics. I'll open this up for a discussion with the broader community, and you can chime in there. Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:05, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

It's not clarified how that page is not an appropriate topic. What is not meeting the notability guidelines? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CreoMontminy (talkcontribs) 16:08, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

@CreoMontminy: I've explained further at the deletion discussion here. Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:20, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

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Hi Calliopejen1, thanks for reviewing my draft. I wanted more information in regards to why the article was declined, considering I added roughly 8 references that are notable, and also have seen other celebrity wiki pages that have less, unknown references have their submission accepted. Are there certain parts of the article you feel are under referenced? Do you think the amount of references is too low? Do you think the publishers that are mentioned are not credible enough? Please let me know your thoughts as I'd like to make revisions and update for resubmission. Thanks in advance, and hope to work together in getting this submission approved!


Jcrespo425 (talk) 17:48, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

The sources barely mention Karam Hinduja. Only people who have been covered in significant depth by multiple sources qualify for Wikipedia articles (e.g. multiple newspaper articles about Karam himself). Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:18, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for moving new article!

Hi, I just wanted to say: thank you for moving Zero Magazine (music magazine) out of draft space and into article space! I am happy to have this created. Thank you! --Culix (talk) 10:23, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

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Hi! You rejected the creation of an article titled "North Macedonian wine" by referring to the "Macedonian wine" article. The to articles refer to a different subject and the content of the article "Macedonian wine" is wrongly placed in it. These are two different subjects and I created the article to accuretly represent the matter. One article refers to the "Macedonian wine" as a PGI and one article refering to the wine of FYROM now North Macedonia. In any case the content of the article "Macedonia wine" was inaccurate. So please accept the article so I can update the contents. All the best

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There are several problems with your edit. One, the name "North Macedonia" is not yet official so that is not an acceptable article title. Two, you have essentially duplicated the contents of the current article at a new name (it is not only about the PGI but instead copies the entire contents of the article about wine from the country of Macedonia). If you would like to start a new article about the PGI, I recommend starting a draft with the title Draft:Macedonian wine (protected geographical indication). Once that article is developed, there are multiple ways to handle distinguishing the two topics. One is by creating a disambiguation page. Another is to leave a hatnote at the top of the current article. But the solution is not to create a near-duplicate article. Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:12, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

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I've opened a bug about VisualEditor inserting extra blank lines. Looks like that's what happened to both of us. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:58, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi you recently accepted the above article that I moved to draft space as it was unsourced as per WP:DRAFTIFY. I see the creator Scottburton-ba has now sourced it (hence your move) but I also note that one of the sources in Body Armour News was written by someone called Scott Burton. The user has regularly added, over the years, links to the publication he probably works for which in IMHO is WP:LINKSPAM. Over and above that there is nothing exceptional about the coverage it is purely routine coverage of a new equipement. If this had been a company product then it would never have passed WP:PRODUCT and would have been redirected to the company web page. I was going to tag for notability and needing more sources but before I did I just wanted to know what you thought first. Dom from Paris (talk) 15:17, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

It looked like the last iterations of these vests for the US military have articles, and it had a couple references. I agree there could be notability problems so I don't have a problem tagging it. But a move to draftspace is essentially a slow-motion prod, and I don't think this should be deleted without discussion. Looks plausibly notable. Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:52, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks I totally agree that it should not be moved back to draft space now it is sourced. When I moved it originally it fulfilled the 3 criteria for WP:DRAFTIFY. I sometimes use it for inexperienced users as a way of helping them understand that there are required standards as in general tagging has little or no effect and is often more efficient than lengthy discussions. I'll tag it for notability and remind the creator about linkspam. Cheers. Dom from Paris (talk) 06:23, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

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Greetings of the day, Sir, I'm currently working for an NGO named SAFE (social Action for Forest and Environment), founded by environment conservationist Vikrant Tongad. I want to publish a page on NGO for the same. Since the majority of the work is highlighted in the news clips/articles and I've used the same for my page. But that may contain some extra content which may be irrelevant from the topic, so can you please help me or give an optimum solution for the same. Thanks and Best regards Karamveer Singh

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Sir, I've updated the article with good references and resources. Please review it. Hoping for a postive reply. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KS=Karamveer (talkcontribs) 04:17, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Sir, please review my draft. KS=Karamveer (talk) 10:23, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Sir, I've added numerous of resources and coverage, can you please review it as it was flagged by you under subject notability. Thankyou :)

KS=Karamveer (talk) 17:39, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

User:KS=Karamveer, It appears that the draft has been deleted by another administrator as blatant advertising. In the future, you can resubmit the draft for review by the community as a whole (using a button for this on the draft page) rather than relying on my input specifically. Good luck, Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:43, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

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Something of interest

User_talk:Cryptic#Curious_about_a_stat. WBGconverse 18:35, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

@Winged Blades of Godric: Thanks. I don't have the time to go through and check whether my non-scientific take was correct, but please let me know if you confirm/deny the pattern I thought I observed. The section "Alternative proposal 2: The WMF was wrong to ban Fram" is where it jumped out at me. Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:42, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
At first glances, it's true enough. It's past midnight over here and tomorrow, I need to additionally check as to whether the male-female ratio is same w.r.t the entire encyclopedia or whether the discussion is even more male-dominated. WBGconverse 18:47, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

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Is this a good format? I feel like we got 90% of the way there on Panama and stopped... The rest of them are probably somewhere in a subpage to my userpage. Have you ever thought of working with Wikidata? This info would be good to put in Wikidata. I've never done mass imports of data there though. Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:42, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

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Hey! It's been a while, I hope you are doing well! I have been seeing a few of your articles about Agriculture in X and Health in X topics that use public domain sources. I am noticing that the US Gov source is not addressing climate change, even though Climate_change_and_agriculture and Effects of global warming on human health are some of the most pressing topics in most of these developing countries (recently encountered your early work on Agriculture in Senegal. Would you be interested in helping address this gap a bit more systematically? Its a really relevant way to make small contributions, with potentially long-term impact. Sadads (talk) 00:28, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Or if you are looking for PD sources like that, it would be great if you could focus on Energy or Climate change in (i.e. Energy in Senegal) articles that have clear US Gov sources of that data, Sadads (talk) 00:29, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi user:sadads! Climate change isn't a particular interest of mine, so I probably wont be doing any systematic edits like that. For topics in the developing world, I like adding PD text because it's a super easy way to fill gaps that often STILL exist in Wikipedia about pretty basic stuff. Maybe I'll think of some clever searches to turn up PD content about climate change but the US govt may not be producing much content like that, given our politics.... Also I dont think the EIA (energy information administration) reports have info about climate change, so there is probably no easy fix to get climate change content. thanks for your work in this area! Calliopejen1 (talk) 13:26, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
A good example, is that these Climate Risk Profiles, are USAID development: https://www.climatelinks.org/resources/climate-change-risk-profile-senegal -- not sure if they are GOV-PD or not, but labelled as if by the GOV. Sadads (talk) 13:51, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
@Sadads: Hmm. This is interesting because it looks like the actual drafting was done by a contractor called Chemonics -- search for AID-OAA-I-14-00013 in this doc. (The Risk Profile PDFs say "This document was prepared under the Climate Change Adaptation, Thought Leadership and Assessments (ATLAS) Task Order No. AID-OAA-I-14-00013.") If these were PD they would be good pasting candidates, but we need to get the PD status cleared up. Here are some contacts you could email from the ATLAS website:
  • USAID ATLAS TEAM
    • Jessica Torrens-Spence, Contracting Officer’s Representative, EGEA/AFR/SD, gtorrens-spence@usaid.gov, +1 (202) 712-0310
    • Colin Quinn, Africa Bureau Activity Manager, AFR/SD, cquinn@usaid.gov, +1 (512) 567-8071
    • Pete Epanchin, E3 Activity Manager E3/GCC, pepanchin@usaid.gov, +1 (202) 216-3528
    • Jessica Anderson, DCHA Activity Manager, RFS/AID, janderson@usaid.gov, +1 (202) 712 0219
  • ATLAS PROJECT TEAM
    • Chris Perine, Chief of Party, ATLASinfo@chemonics.com, +1 (202)955-3344
Presumably the terms of the contract specify whether their work product is PD or not. Then I suppose the next step would be to forward to OTRS whatever documentation we get re: copyright status. Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:34, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

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Hi Calliopejen1 I write two article with wikipedia roles. Please I wrote two articles according to Wikipedia rules. 1. Draft:Arash Ghaderi 2. Draft:Hasan Rahnamaeian Please check them and accept if there is no problem. Warm regards. Omid ahmadyani (talk) 10:11, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Request on 19:21:30, 11 May 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Glenn1489


Thank you for the feedback and suggestion. Regarding your comment: "On its own, it does not qualify for a Wikipedia article, based on the references you have provided." Can you suggest other references which might help qualify for inclusion of the article? I thought mention by US Fish & Wildlife sources would help the organization's noteworthiness. Glenn1489 (talk) 19:21, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

@Glenn1489: To be honest, I would be very surprised if any other references existed. This is a very small organization (I looked at its budget in Form 990). Lightweight references by USFW that basically acknowledge its existence as a routine sort of small volunteer/charitable organization are not going to be enough to qualify it for a Wikipedia article, unfortunately... Wikipedia:Run-of-the-mill is an essay, not a policy, but it explains the problems that an organization like this faces in terms of qualifying for an article. Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:24, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

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CBR Buidling

Hey Calliopejen1

Thank you for responding to my question so quickly and for your comment regarding some sentences which seem to be copied directly from my sources. This was definitely not my intention and as I went through the article I'm really not sure which phrases you mean. Is there perhaps a way I could copyright check the article myself and make sure I never make this mistake again?

Thanks again 18:15, 19 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MichaelHolemans (talkcontribs)

@MichaelHolemans: This edit is where I removed what I noticed had been copied. (It was actually copied from the Wallpaper article rather than the Dutch source it's cited to.) I did use a tool (this one) but it does not work 100% of the time, and it never will recognize direct translations -- that was actually my main concern, because many people think that it's okay to translate copyrighted sources and post in Wikipedia (it isn't). Those two sentences are all that it recognized as copied. If you can assure me that the rest of the article is not copied/directly translated, I can go ahead and approve it. Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:22, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Ohh I see, apologies for that! I read my article again and can assure you that I have written everything that remains myself! Thanks for the help and the useful tool! MichaelHolemans (talk) 18:34, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you for your feedback. I am fine with changing the title of this article to "Expulsion of Matthew L. Becker from the LCMS." I have now changed the title of the page and have added additional citations from secondary sources. I have also made clear the COI on my user page. Would you please consider lifting your objection to the publication of this page? Thank you. Mbecker1749 (talk) 03:49, 22 May 2020 (UTC)


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There is some issue with this URL and other boxes for the referencing my draft. It is not how the help video sets things out,

@Exsap: sorry, I don't understand your question. Could you rephrase it? 13:15, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

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Hello Calliopejen1, thanks for the valuable tips. I have amended the changes, can you please help me review again? Thanks. Gold9diamond9 (talk) 07:11, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

@Gold9diamond9: Thanks, I've approved the article! Calliopejen1 (talk) 07:14, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

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help with my draft Carnival Motion Pictures

i am unsure what you mean by references ? kindly help me understand as i did add references — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thangammal Rajasuran (talkcontribs) 05:09, 17 June 2020 (UTC) {{}}

There are references, but they do not show that the company qualifies for a Wikipedia article. Read WP:NCORP to understand why I declined the article. Calliopejen1 (talk) 12:40, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Request on 09:08:07, 17 June 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Vickydrv


Hey Calliopejen1 ! I saw that my draft was declined due to the lack of references. I thought I had enough and I'm new to this... could you tell me how many references I need, or give me advice on how to improve my draft ? Thansk !

Vickydrv (talk) 09:08, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

@Vickydrv: Actually, the problem may be that it has too many references. Many of the references have little to do with Generation or are primary sources affiliated with Generation. The article also reads a little bit like an ad. I'd recommend rewriting the article using only the high-quality sources in the article (articles about Generation in reputable periodicals). It's possible the organization is notable, but volunteers here take a stricter view of stuff that is bordering on spam. (We're not necessarily going to spend volunteer time hunting through an excessively long list of junky references to figure out whether it's a notable organization.) I'd also revise so the organization's quoted mission isn't first, and don't use marketing jargon like "partnering". Calliopejen1 (talk) 01:09, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Sweet Tooth (band) amendments made

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Hi @Calliopejen1! Thank you for the help on this draft. I've significantly redacted the article and chosen only to use sources that are published news organizations or large radio stations. Will you give the article another look at your earliest convenience? Thank you! 09:42, 19 June 2020 (UTC)Newmusicgeeking (talk)

@Newmusicgeeking: How does this band meet WP:NMUSIC? The coverage provided does not meet #1. Do they satisfy any of the other criteria? If so, how? Calliopejen1 (talk) 01:00, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
@Calliopejen1: Thank you for responding so quickly. Very excited to have you reviewing. Notability criteria requirement #9 for musicians and ensembles is: "Has won first, second or third place in a major music competition." Sweet Tooth won first place in a major music competition: KAABOO Discovery Tour. KAABOO is one of the largest international festivals in the world with more than 300,000 yearly attendees across its three events, KAABOO San Diego, KAABOO Texas, and KAABOO Cayman Islands with the top acts in the world performing: Black Eyed Peas, Foo Fighters, The Killers, Katy Perry, Zac Brown Band, No Doubt, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and so many more. Over the years hundreds of bands have traveled across the nation to perform in the KAABOO Discovery Tour. Newmusicgeeking (talk) 05:25, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
@Newmusicgeeking: I don't think that is considered a "major music competition"--no Wikipedia article, only 1000 google hits, not broadly covered by news media.... The band doesn't seem to meet our criteria for inclusion, sorry. Calliopejen1 (talk) 05:34, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
@Calliopejen1: Thank you again for the reply. It is a major competition, but there is no criteria for "major music competition" in the notability requirement which makes it difficult for me to prove it to you. Maybe I'll start by submitting an article on the KAABOO Music Festival, which is mentioned on the Wikipedia rock festival page. Within that page, maybe I can create a section on the Discovery Tour so the world can learn about the competition. Do you think this is a good approach? Do you have any other ideas? Cheers, a music geek.Newmusicgeeking (talk) 06:13, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
@Newmusicgeeking: I would recommend that you abandon your plans to write an article about Sweet Tooth. It's possible that the KAABOO Music Festival qualifies for an article, but I'm not sure. You are not going to meet #9 for Sweet Tooth based on the KAABOO Discovery Tour. Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:10, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Request on 01:52:08, 17 June 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by 1a364853


Hello. I wish to talk about the draft article "Monster Girl Quest". I am trying to create an article about this game and the reason given for its rejection is that there are insufficient reliable sources and/or coverage. There is already an article about this game on the Italian Wikipedia: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_Girl_Quest If possible, I would wish to know what sources that article contains that warrants its publication there but not here, so that I may add them in the draft article. Thanks.

1a364853 (talk) 01:52, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

@1a364853: Different Wikipedias have different rules. Also, it's possible that the article violates the Italian Wikipedia's rules but has not been noticed yet. So you cant draw any conclusions based on the existence of an article there. Calliopejen1 (talk) 04:24, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
@Calliopejen1: I wasn't drawing any conclusions. I just wished to know if there are any sources in that article that could help with the publication of that article here, and unfortunately I didn't get an answer to that question. Another question I have is if in case I can't get the article published at the present, can I copy the current draft of that article and paste it into my userpage so that future users may use the same draft and enhance it to make a future publication of the article? 1a364853 (talk) 19:34, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
@1a364853: You mean the youtube trailer and the page at a different wiki? No, these are obviously not sources that could establish notability. And no, you can't put that at your userpage per WP:NOTWEBHOST. Calliopejen1 (talk) 01:11, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
@Calliopejen1: Not necessarily the Youtube trailer and the wiki page, but anything that could be of help. About my second question, the link you sent says that "user pages (...) should be used primarily to present information relevant to work on the encyclopedia". In my view, not wanting the draft article to be deleted and lost forever by preserving it in my talk page is relevant to working on the encyclopedia, since the content may be used later by other users or by myself for a future publication on the website (in case it does not get approved). I have added different sources to the article recently (I would greatly appreciate if you could take another look at the article and see if they make any difference), but if they are still not enough I will need some help. 1a364853 (talk) 05:03, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
@1a364853: Sorry, this is not remotely an area of interest for me, so I'm not going to help further on this draft. I don't think this subject qualifies for an article, so your efforts are likely to be wasted. You can ask for further assistance at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games to see if anyone else wishes to assist. Calliopejen1 (talk) 05:44, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Knowledge retention

I've raised some questions about an article you reviewed from 'articles for creation'. It looks like it may be an attempt by the head of a KM Consultancy group to create an article on Wikipedia related to her business. If you could have a look? -----Snowded TALK 06:54, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

@Snowded: Knowledge retention is a notable concept -- see Google Scholar. I don't see in the article that looks like an advertisement either. Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:59, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

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Your efforts to an article Gyarvi Sharif is appreciating

can you please give me a detailed feedback to improve an article to B class thanksMajun e Baqi (talk) 07:12, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

@Majun e Baqi: What is most important to get an article to B class is making sure you have found the best sources for the article, then building from what they say. I'm not familiar with how you would find sources in an area like this. I'd recommend asking at WT:ISLAM for guidance. Once you've gotten all of the content you want in the article, it will also need to be copyedited; WP:GOCE can help with this. Good luck! Calliopejen1 (talk) 07:21, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks for your recommendations Majun e Baqi (talk) 07:25, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Would it be possible to cite the sources in pdf format, if yes can you please teach me because I am not aware of itMajun e Baqi (talk) 07:30, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

@Majun e Baqi: Can you give me more information about the source you want to cite? I'm not sure I understand your question. Calliopejen1 (talk) 07:32, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

I want to cite source for this link and it is pdf http://www.iecrcna.org/documents/WhatIsGiyarweenShareef.pdf would it be possible to cite PDFs like itMajun e Baqi (talk) 07:43, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

@Majun e Baqi: This doesn't look like the best source, because it is published by a community organization rather than an academic source. But assuming that you think it is good and want to cite it... I'd just use {{cite web}}. Fill in the relevant parameters, e.g. publisher=Islamic Educational and Cultural Research Center. You don't have to specify that it is a PDF; the software automatically will put a little PDF icon. There is no problem with citing a PDF; it's just a matter of evaluating whether the particular PDF is from a reputable publisher etc. Calliopejen1 (talk) 07:46, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Thankyou very much Majun e Baqi (talk) 07:49, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Not sure

Would it be possible to create an article on proposed Medical College of any state on wikipedia for example Government Medical College, Nandurbar

@Majun e Baqi: There's probably not a bright-line rule; I assume it depends on the degree of coverage a medical school has gotten (independent of the university with which it is affiliated). Some medical schools may qualify for coverage, and others probably must be covered in the article for the larger university. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:03, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
So what will be your opinion to an article Government Medical College, NandurbarMajun e Baqi (talk) 15:05, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
I don't know enough about the area to give a good answer... You could ask at WT:SCHOOLS. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:09, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Ah! I am just asking whether the article is fit for inclusion in wikipedia Majun e Baqi (talk) 15:11, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

I know, but that's not actually an easy question! Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:12, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Okay thanks a lot, so i am not moving it to draft space Majun e Baqi (talk) 15:14, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Poetry London, the 1939-51 magazine

I've added a reference to show notability, which please refer to. Others may add more if they wish. Good luck! Bucketbuckethorse (talk) 00:30, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

@Bucketbuckethorse: thanks. You may need more references for the draft to be approved, though. (I dont generally go back to the same drafts, so someone else will probably review it.) Calliopejen1 (talk) 01:53, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Help with my draft:Kuala Lumpur Diamond Triangle

Hi Callio, I would need your assistance to get my article approved as this is definitely not intended to be an advertisement but instead, to tell the history of some part in the center of Kuala Lumpur. Please advise, hear from you soon!

@Kianchin: please remove all flowery language ("beautiful", "colorful", etc.). Then make sure the rest sounds more like an encyclopedia or a tourist brochure. Calliopejen1 (talk) 01:51, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
@Calliopejen1: I have removed all flowery language as mentioned and strongly believe the rest of the paragraph is from the reference of the KL Tourist brochure without the advertisement element in it but with pure love towards the city and the historical landmarks. Please highly reconsider to approve my article Mr. Callio. Thanks a bunch Kianchin (talk) 02:55, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Request on 18:45:04, 30 June 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Lipav123


My draft article draft:Anthony Radetic was declined due to copyright violations. I do not know where because there are dozens of citations. I need assistance. Thank you.Lipav123 (talk) 18:45, 30 June 2020 (UTC) Lipav123 (talk) 18:45, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

@Lipav123: This report shows some copying. But you need to ensure that you have not copied from any sources, including sources not listed in the report. (The automated report does not necessarily identify all copying.) Presumably you should know how you wrote the article such that you can eliminate any copying. Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:36, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

I have made significant rewrites, deleted all external links except for a few important ones in the External Links sections, removed the personal motto information, and made the tone of the article more biographical instead of mimicking storytelling.

Lipav123 (talk) 19:47, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Draft Explosive Removal and Destruction Service

I have viewed the Wiki Reference Video and followed it to the letter but there are somethings when translating to English that are coming out red

I need assistance with the referencing my Draft, I filled in as many areas that I can but i am left with red areas that i cannot remove or amend

I have referenced my Draft from Belgium Government Defence site, a (Nl/Fr/En)Belgium veterans Explosive Removal and Destruction Service =Bedo.be site

I have viewed the Wiki Reference Video and followed it to the letter but there are somethings when translating to English that are coming out red

I think you are being unfair in not publishing my Draft I have followed all the requirements, I have provided all my reference material. and it is all my own work, written to best of my belief in a encyclopedia format.

@Exsap: My comment was from a while ago, and only related to copying in the draft. I'd recommend contacting User:Timtrent who was the most recent one to decline the article. Calliopejen1 (talk) 00:08, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
I have left them a full answer on my talk page, and helped by correcting their first reference error message, showing them how they might choose to correct the second and handed the work for doing that back to them. Thank you for pinging me. Fiddle Faddle 06:15, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Draft:1983 Tarragona City Council election

Hi, Calliopejen1! I corrected the references of the Draft:1983 Tarragona City Council election some weeks ago. I think now it is ready to be approved but anyone says nothing about it. Could you approve it? Thank you!

Tarraco 1 (talk) 13:42, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Exsite Webware article rejection

I'm not sure if this is going to the right editor. Regardless, it appears that you've rejected the Exsite Webware (Draft) article on the strength of weak notability. As we scour the planet for strong secondary sources (which are scarce in Exsite's realm of sub-atomic nuclear physics and mathematics), it would be a great help if you can confirm that the TriUniversities Meson Facility (TRIUMF) article (mentioned in the submitted article) is a useful source of notability. That would mean that we have one, so far. Then we can continue the search for additional sources. (FWIW, please advise if I'm not speaking to the correct editor) Thanks! Santamoly (talk) 01:33, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

@Santamoly: That one's marginal because TRIUMF licenses technology (or data? I just skimmed the article) to Exsite. So it's not independent. Calliopejen1 (talk) 01:53, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
So, just to confirm: "marginal" means it would never be accepted? I'm thinking that TRIUMF would not be licencing leading-edge technolgy to a bunch of nobodies, so this note might suggest that this source might be more than simply "marginal"? After all, these are particle physics scientists, and they're more focused on nutrinos, muons, and pions rather than being "notable".Santamoly (talk) 23:58, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
I don't know that I'd say never, but if it were me at a deletion discussion I personally would not consider that as contributing to notability.Calliopejen1 (talk) 00:11, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
I'm looking for some additional insight. Does this mean that "notability" is more defined as being "noted" by the popular press or media like Facebook or Twitter, rather than "accredited" by scientific or academic peers? There's a lot of material to search through, and this might help me to narrow the search. Also, as I locate sources related to "notability" (most likely academic journals), do I simple submit it again after adding each additional reference? Or is there a minimum number of additional academic sources I'd need to include before submitting? One last question: do references need to be in English (there appear to be additional references in German and French academic sources) Thanks! Santamoly (talk) 20:42, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
@Santamoly: have a look at WP:N and WP:RS which go into more detail. Facebook and Twitter are not acceptable. You're looking for sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy that have covered it in some depth. E.g. journal articles, reputable newspapers. Sources don't need to be in English. Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:32, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, that helps somewhat. I'm assuming that academic sources would be acceptable (they're normally accurate fact-checkers), but it appears not to be a reliable measuring stick in Wikipedia. I've added a few more in which Exsite Webware is covered (one from a German university), but I'm still not clear on what standard these are assessed. Santamoly (talk) 21:42, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
I haven't looked at all of the references in detail and am not inclined to spend more time on this draft (it's not a topic of interest for me). But I will say that the German link is not going to help the article qualify for inclusion. Its just one line in a chart; you need coverage of significant depth. Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:14, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
"Its just one line in a chart . . ."?? I don't understand your comment. The reference is an evaluation of static vs dynamic content served from Exsite-type servers. How many references would be necessary to qualify as "coverage of significant depth"? Also, can you tell me if it's necessary for the article to "interest you" in order to pass the notability test?? Thanks! Santamoly (talk) 02:00, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
@Santamoly: whether I'm interested has nothing to do with whether its notable. But I'm a volunteer here and dont care to invest my time in subjects outside my areas of interest. The reference is not about exsite specifically other than that line in the chart. Exsite-type servers may well be notable (I have no idea) but that reference does not support the notability of Exsite specifically. If you want another opinion, feel free to submit for review again to get the attention of a different editor. Calliopejen1 (talk) 02:25, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

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In re WP:THQ and translations without sources

Thank you very much for your very helpful answer at WP:THQ. I did not even consider copyright, for some reason I thought that it didn't matter as much with translations, but you are right, it is just as important to be sure foreign language text is free of copyright problems. Maybe more so, as foreign language wikis have fewer volunteers than enwiki. Psiĥedelisto (talkcontribs) please always ping! 18:01, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Request on 17:21:04, 4 July 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Tanumoyp



Tanumoyp (talk) 17:21, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Dear Sir/Madam,

I have answered all the questions to +Dragonfly6-7 and RichSmith regarding all the issues. I changed the draft considerably by putting many independent Newspaper sources. Its not an advertisement. Please reconsider and approve the post.Please review.

Regards, TanumoyP

Tanumoyp (talk) 17:21, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

I see that you have resubmitted this for review. I'll let another user take a look at it. Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:39, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you! :3

Hey, thank you for approving my "Batter my heart, three-person’d God" article! I wrote it as a part of my BA thesis and I hoped to publish it after I had defended it. I'm happy I finally could do it!

Fóranzó (talk) 14:13, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

@Fóranzó: You're welcome! Thanks for the great article! Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:39, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

I see you liked a comment I made to an editor

I'm rather flattered. I have a library of them. You may like those too. I put it together to save me a load of time a few years back. Fiddle Faddle 20:01, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Haha, thanks! Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:04, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Pretty much any normal situation at AFC can be given one or more of them. Fiddle Faddle 20:06, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Pastor Joshua Iginla's article

@Calliopejen1 and @Curb, welldone guys for the amazing editing and redrafting of this new article. I want to sincerely commend you guys for this. It is first time my article for creation has receive direct inputs and it certainly energizes and encourages developing authors like myself. I am also very very happy that the article was speedily approved. So a BIG THANK YOU! Like you guys rightly argued, the controversies surrounding this man of God in respect to his wife have to be duly reflected in this his Wiki page. It's good you guys weighed in and the final consensus reached was good. Welldone! (Ozonyiawiki (talk) 22:56, 6 July 2020 (UTC))

Attempted photo upload to Karl Groeger

Thank you for your guidance. In answer to you question about the source of the photo. It was taken by the mother of Karl Groeger. Frieda Groeger bwad my great Aunt..Gross Tante Frieda She died in Chicago in 1975 and I am the legal heir to the Estate. Does that help,? Intelife13 (talk) 19:33, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

@Intelife13: To confirm, you are the legal heir to the estate of the photographer (either inheriting the entire estate, the photo copyrights specifically, or the Residuary estate)? Note that whether you inherited the physical photos is probably not relevant. Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:34, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

I just saw a message you are taking a Wiki Break..so I'll make this brief. Frieda Groeger died in 1975. I have copies of her birth and death certificates, also copies of original documents pertaining to my second cousin Karl Groeger. Do i have a copy of her Last Will and Testament..no not any more. That was over 40 years ago. I don't know how else to prove I was heir to her estate!! Intelife13 (talk) 19:59, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

@Intelife13: I'm not asking for any proof other than your assertion... But can you confirm that you inherited the entire estate (or, if not, either the photo copyrights or the residuary estate)? Once you confirm, I'll send you in the right direction. I ask this because sometimes people are confused and only inherited physical copies of the photos (which isn't sufficient). Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:03, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. By Residuary estate I am assuming that means all physical properties including real estate and other assets, in which case the answer is yes. Intelife13 (talk) 15:11, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

@Intelife13: Okay, sounds good. Assuming the following is accurate and you agree to it, please fill in your name/date below and email the below, attaching the photos, to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. The referenced license is here if you want to read it in detail.

I hereby affirm that I, [NAME], am the sole owner of the exclusive copyright of the photo(s) attached to this email. The photo(s) were taken by my great aunt Frieda Groeger. I inherited her estate and therefore own the photo copyrights.
I agree to publish the above-mentioned photo(s) under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International.
I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the photo(s), even in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws.
I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites.
I am aware that the copyright holder always retains ownership of the copyright as well as the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by the copyright holder.
I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.
[NAME]
[DATE]

Let me know if you have any questions! FYI, sometimes it can take them a while to process these donations. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:58, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Kostio de War

Hallo Calliopejen1, I have a question. In the English version of the Kostio de War article are three French quotations with the english translations. I would like to format these quotations as on the German Kostio de War article. However, I cannot find a corresponding code template on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Quote. Do you have an idea how I can find a similar code template for the english Kostio de War article? Best regards, --20:59, 10 July 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael Oreal (talkcontribs)

@Michael Oreal: I would not take the German approach. First and most importantly, at least at en.wiki, quotes should be woven into the prose of the article rather than dropped in like that. Second, as a matter of house style, we use a translation in the article text and the original foreign-language quote in the footnote. When you do this, I'd recommend that you use the quote= parameter of whatever citation template ({{cite book}}, {{cite web}}, {{cite news}}, etc.) that you're using, and put the original French text there rather than in the body of the article. Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:22, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Request on 23:33:36, 13 July 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by DGHealy


This is a record of a historical event. Is this the wrong forum for such documentation? Do you need testimonials or receipts? I have the speaker commitment forms from the speakers which includes Paul Brainerd who coined the term, “Desktop Publishing” and was the founder of Aldus that created PageMaker. Have you heard of PageMaker? I know it has been a while.

Let me know.

Thanks, David Healy 415 388-7779 dh@first-image.com

DGHealy (talk) 23:33, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

@DGHealy: What you need are reliable secondary sources that covered the conference in some depth. Newspapers, books, academic journal articles, etc. If those exist, please cite them in your draft. If they don't exist, the subject does not qualify for an article. Calliopejen1 (talk) 01:21, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Also, to respond to your question about recording a historical event -- we're not really the right place for that. Documenting history from primary-source documents is the work of historians. Once historians take note of the conference and publish about it in reliable secondary sources, only then can Wikipedia have an article about the conference. Calliopejen1 (talk) 01:22, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Draft: Lilian Ajayi-Ore

Can you please have a look at the article 'Lilian Ajayi-Ore', which I created and worked so hard to improve it but at the end was declined. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ozonyiawiki (talkcontribs) 02:02, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

@Ozonyiawiki: This article has a lot of problems. I see a lot of poor sourcing -- the ASME and NYU pages, for example, she is affiliated with (and surely wrote herself). The ASME has obvious factual errors -- e.g. it says she received an "academic scholarship" at Harvard, but Harvard does not offer merit aid (and has not offered it in years, if it ever did). I spot checked a few statements in the article against the references, and much of what is in the article is not supported by the references. Stuff like this is just junk: "Ajayi-Ore's career cuts across academia, marketing and finance, social enterprise, public speaking as well as philanthropy with special interest and focus on youth and women empowerment." Especially because she appears to be working as an "SEO&Analytics Manager" doing generic digital marketing. It's not clear to me that Ajayi qualifies for an article, but if she does, the article needs a significant overhaul. I would reduce its length by 50% and reduce the number of references by 50%. Even if you do this, the article still may fail, unfortunately... If you provide me the WP:THREE top references from the article, I'll give you my assessment of whether she qualifies for an article. Calliopejen1 (talk) 04:19, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

@Calliopejen1, Thank you so much for this feedback. I have tried to improve on this article and it's difficult to know what to take out or what to do. I have read and re-read so many articles approved in wikipedia and tried to model accordingly my writing for AfC. I guess I still need to improve seriously on my skill and tone of writing. I wouldn't like to be wasting my precious time and energy writing AfC that would be declined or rejected after all the hardwork. You have just made important recommendations that I wouldn't have been able to consider. Thanks for the feedback. I will try and remove all those lines that are not useful to the article and reduce the whole article sieze by 50% as you suggested. I will also go through all those references and come back to you with three 'top references' as you advised. Thank you so much. You are very encouraging.(Ozonyiawiki (talk) 12:54, 14 July 2020 (UTC))

Request on 07:15:20, 14 July 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by BorderTensions


Hi Calliopejen1, I hope you're well!

I'm getting in touch in relation to a draft article I submitted on Michelle Boylan (see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Michelle_Boylan).

As a preselected candidate for a marginal seat in the upcoming WA State election, Boylan's notability as per the Wikipedia notability guidelines is be well-founded.

It seems that your main issue with my submission was the nature of the sources I have used in the article, chiefly that they don't show significant coverage of the subject. For what it's worth, I think you have a point. Even still, I think it is important that the subject has a presence on Wikipedia so that myself and other editors may work and improve on her article as more local and regional media attention is fixed upon her (which will certainly occur as the 2021 West Australian State Election draws near).

Of course, as a highly experienced editor, the final decision is in your hands. Still, I write this with some hope that you might reconsider your article rejection. I would regard it a considerable shame for a genuine political contender such as Boylan to have no presence on this website.

All the best,

BorderTensions

BorderTensions (talk) 07:15, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

@BorderTensions: Most political candidates are not notable by Wikipedia standards, unless they have achieved a level of coverage that is unusual among candidates. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:01, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Lely North America

Hi Calliopejen1 - you recently reviewed a page I submitted to Wikipedia and it was rejected for reading too much like an advertisement. If it's not too much trouble, could you point to the sentences/areas that you found specifically? Or I can just re-write it to read more like an encyclopedia like the message suggests. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ebel326 (talkcontribs) 14:35, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

(by talk reader) @Ebel326: The entire draft reads more like what the company wants people to know about it than an encyclopedia article. Part of this is due to your sourcing. For example in the lede it says "As a company, Lely works to create a sustainable, profitable and enjoyable future in farming for dairy farmers" which is pure ad speak. Worse, that sentence is sourced to a press release. Bad sources will lead to bad content. Also in the lede, it claims the subject "s able to keep farmers up-to-speed on the latest milking and feeding products and techniques through a vast network of Lely Centers" and that junk assertion is cited to the subject's website. We need to hear from independent reliable sources about the subject, not what the company's marketing team wants to tell us. Farther down the draft you claim "Lely North America manufactures a variety of solutions dairy farmers can use to achieve specific goals, whether they are more efficient use of labor, better cow health or increased milk production." This is also promotional dreck. It's uncited, so who is saying that Lely produces "a variety of solutions" and what does that even mean? All of this stuff forces me to ask if you have a conflict of interest regarding this subject. You are required to disclose such. None of your sources seem to be reliable news. For example, this URL is a broken link and I don't know that ruralnewsgroup.co.nz is good enough as a source. Based on the sources I could find, I don't think this company passes WP:NCORP. Chris Troutman (talk) 15:26, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Hira Ashar

Hi Calliopejen1, I hope you are doing well! You have mentioned for this page that they do not show significant coverage. However, the person appears has a massive fan base, appears on various videos with over millions of views, and appears on major streaming platforms. Can you please help us understand why this isn't approved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WeArtist (talkcontribs) 03:04, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Please read WP:BIO. It all comes down to coverage in reliable sources. The reference currently in the draft do not show the necessary coverage. Calliopejen1 (talk) 05:36, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

So IMDB isn't considered a reliable source? What about netflix? Isn't that a source? She is notable on Netflix, a huge platform. What about the large fan following? or notability? I've added new sources please just check again. This should work. WeArtist (talk) 03:55, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Berry Campbell Gallery

Greetings Calliopejen1, thank you for looking over this submission. In response to your request for three best sources, I would pick these:

Smith, Roberta (September 25, 2019). "New York Galleries: What to See Right Now". The New York Times.

Plagens, Peter (December 20, 2014). "Puzzling Social Commentary and Silky Elegance in Bronze: Art Exhibits by Ivan Witenstein, Ken Greenleaf and Barbara Chase-Riboud". The Wall Street Journal.

Kuspit, Donald (September 1, 2017). "Larry Zox". Artforum.

Links can be resolved here and here, and the text of the last item found here, if you can't reach them in the usual manner. I'm a domain expert, and we typically evaluate the strength of a gallery by its ability to attract the attention of notable critics at significant publications over a long period of time. Each of Smith, Plagens, and Kuspit (as well as the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and Artforum) have entries at Wikipedia. So do more than half of the artists represented at the gallery. This latter point is of some importance, as a listing for the gallery would aid scholarship about them.

Thank you again, and please let me know if there's anything further I can provide for you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ImmovableObject (talkcontribs) 20:38, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Link prediction I find perplexing

Thank you for sorting out the replacement draft and then moving it to the correct place. I'm a tad surprised to see you accepted it with almost no references. What have I missed, please? Fiddle Faddle 21:56, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

@Timtrent: It's a notable subject[2] and seems like a reasonable start. No copyvio or promotion issues. I was about to decline, but decided I'd rather have others improve it in mainspace at this point than potentially have it languish and get deleted in draftspace. For me the need for referencing is somewhat of a sliding scale depending on whether the article is promotional junk. Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:07, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
What you say makes sense. I shall apply a PROD to seek to ensure that referencing is forthcoming Fiddle Faddle 22:09, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
@Timtrent: I disagree with the prod. (I'm going to remove it.) If you have a particular reason to think there is something wrong with the draft, please AFD to get broader attention. I don't really have an opinion one way or the other, but don't think it should be deleted by a default process. Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:12, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
@Timtrent: I also note that the first authors the article refers to are the very top cited in the Google scholar search for link prediction, one positive indicator that the article is a not-insane summary of the literature. Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:15, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
@Calliopejen1: Just wanted to let you know I created the draft User:CCLevy/Link prediction, and it seems I accidentally submitted it too soon. See discussion with Timtrent here. I (and my colleagues) were planning to add references this weekend. We've actually done academic research in this area, which is why we wrote the article without references - we already had a basic structure in mind, and will pick from a set of articles to cite once we get around to formatting the bibliography in Wikipedia markdown.
I do fully realize the importance of proper citations, and agree this article should not have appeared on the mainspace without them. Thanks for your help, and let me know if there are any questions. Best wishes! CCLevy (talk) 23:34, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Request on 18:09:25, 20 July 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Bishalgupta52


As you may know i am writing this message to resolve the problem to publish my article. I have created this article after a long research from my own community in Nepal. This is the traditional game i have played when i was very young . Which remind me as i am a computer science student currently living in New York city why should not i create it online. With the help of my friends out here i have created the modern version of Jhandi Mundai/langur burja game. i tried to look for the resources but what all i found was youtube video . please provide any help to publish my article.thank you


Bishalgupta52 (talk) 18:09, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

@Bishalgupta52: Youbble Burza 100% does NOT qualify for a Wikipedia article, so please do not try to write an article about that. The article on the underlying game already exists at the title Crown and Anchor so you can improve that if you are interested in improving the article on the game generally. Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:47, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Submission of Draft

Please help to submit this draft: Olakunle Adedapo Soriyan Abbas Kwarbai (talk) 22:41, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

@Abbas Kwarbai: I added a template to that page, so you can click the "submit" button when you are ready. But I caution you that your draft will be declined in its current condition. Please read WP:NBIO for our standards on who qualifies for a biography, and how that must be demonstrated. Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:55, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Francis E. Waive

Good day, Ive made the corrections you suggested for the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Francis_E._Waive. Kindly review and advice — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frankwaive (talkcontribs) 12:26, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

@Frankwaive: I generally don't review drafts more than once, so I'll leave this for another reviewer. Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:58, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Greg Yuna has been accepted

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Dark core of personality has been accepted

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For a light of hope

The Half Barnstar
For the excellent collaboration at Cleavage (breasts). You have been a light of hope. I was about to give up on collaboration possibilties when you showed up. Thanks for everything. Note: I hope the collaboration will continue for some time. The article needs you, Spicy and the rest of the cleavage crew to get in shape. Aditya(talkcontribs) 02:10, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Spicy has posted a long list of observations on the talk page. Would you take a look at it? Aditya(talkcontribs) 05:41, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

@Aditya Kabir: Thanks for the barnstar (can't believe I let myself get sucked into this article), and done! Calliopejen1 (talk) 05:51, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
Superb work there, you and Spicy. It would have taken me years to get it this far. Thank lord that you got sucked in so unbelievably, especially the photo initiative. That was so beyond what I could think of. Hats off. I would request you to stay on for a little while longer, and probably take a look when I come knocking at the door begging for help. Thanks for everything so far and everything to come. Aditya(talkcontribs) 05:57, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Jakapun Viwatkurkul Article Draft

Hi Calliopenjen1, I have fix Mr.Jakapun Viwatkurkul article by adding a more solid and reliable source for him. This is the source I added: https://www.marketwatch.com/press-release/jakapun-viwatkurkul-of-mstar-inc-opens-a-new-office-in-thailand-2020-06-01

If you would be so kindly to review the article and approve it would be much appreciated. Thank you.

Pointimage1 (talk) 05:50, 26 July 2020 (UTC)PointImage1

Pointimage1, that source is a press release, so it does not count toward the subject's Notability. Sorry! Calliopejen1 (talk) 05:51, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Jakapun Viwatkurkul Article

Hi Calliopejen1, Is the current added source for Mr. Jakapun not valid enough for a submission like this? I've seen other articles with less source for example like this article here:Zhang_Jinmei

What can I do to make Mr. Jakapun article more valid? Please let me know. Thanks.

Pointimage1 (talk) 06:01, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Pointimage1, correct, it is not sufficient. There may be other articles out there we haven't gotten around to deleting yet. If proper sourcing does not yet exist, there is nothing to be done, except perhaps to hire a PR person with the goal of getting newspapers to write about the article subject. (BTW, most people in the world will never qualify for WP articles.) Calliopejen1 (talk) 06:06, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
Pointimage1, there are special rules that apply to athletes. See WP:NATHLETE. I don't personally agree with how we treat athletes, but it is how it is. Calliopejen1 (talk) 06:08, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

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Request on 06:01:08, 27 July 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Pruyseo


Hi there, I would like further clarification on the reasons given for the declined publication of the page I created for the company Beysis. I believe that this business meets the notoriety classification, due to the nature of their work with the PCI here in Australia and that their products are reducing the use of single use plastic material. The citations that I provided I believe were indeed noteworthy and, as far as I know anyway, were independent of the company (ie. not placed).

Some additional clarification on how this can be addressed would be most appreciated.

Cheers, Pruyseo (talk) 06:01, 27 July 2020 (UTC)Pruyseo

Pruyseo (talk) 06:01, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Pruyseo, many are trivial coverage, not independent, directory listings, etc. Read WP:CORP for the required depth of coverage. Most companies don't qualify. You need multiple in depth profiles of your company written by journalists. Calliopejen1 (talk) 07:05, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
Calliopejen1 Many thanks for the feedback. I'll insert some better citations in the hope it can get approved, as I believe in the worth of the listing. Cheers, Pruyseo (talk) 07:53, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Battle of Capua (343 BC)

Hi. In response to your comment of the Battle of Capua page, while I admit that the Samnite Wars article also covers this subject, adding a separate page for the battle can make it easier for people to find the information if needed. Also the article can be expanded to have more information and sources in the future. SamMcDermott (talk) 10:31, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Triton cockatoo

Actually, the other subspecies have their own article, that's why I created the draft. If you know any information, you can edit the draft, if possible. Regards, Vihaking277 (talk) 08:29, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Vihaking277, others at WT:BIRD were encouraging the merger of the other subspecies into the species article. (And just because one subspecies is notable doesn't mean others are.) In any event, I don't have any personal opinion on this -- just talk to others at the bird project or on the species talk page and reach a consensus about what the best approach is. If others think there should be a subspecies article, please resubmit your draft! Calliopejen1 (talk) 08:31, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

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I have worked some more on the Cleavage (breasts). Took longer than I expected. I believe it is ready for another scrutiny. If you can manage some time, please take another look. Aditya(talkcontribs) 06:33, 14 August 2020 (UTC)


Hi, I just wanna say I can’t find anything about the history or whatever about this place. You could help by expanding it, encouraging others to expand it and reference more things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OliverDeBriz (talkcontribs) 04:54, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

@OliverDeBriz: it's not an area of interest for me, so I personally likely will not improve the article. You could post At WT:AUSTRALIA and see if anyone else is interested. Calliopejen1 (talk) 06:38, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

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Dear Sir/Madam,

As per the suggestion new references were added fr the draft Monomousumi. Please review and suggest. Waiting eagerly for your reply.

Regards, Tanumoy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.87.244.255 (talk) 09:49, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

I'll let someone else do the follow-up review on this one. Good luck. Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:56, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

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Hello dear user, please help the article of Ms. [Hadis ChehrePardaz] not to be deleted because she is a very good actress in Iranian cinema and thank you for your kindness. Shahrooiy (talk) 00:35, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for your edits, I will work on a better compromise with Stuart today. You guys are fast!!!! TheServingLibrary (talk) 14:22, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Improvements to the Draft:Montserrat (typeface)

Hello, reciently I improved the draft of the article "Montserrat (typeface)" and also i added a infobox typeface. Would you like to transfer to the Encyclopedia article? Thanks and regards,--Rodney Araujo (talk) 00:48, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Rodney Araujo, I don't generally review the same article twice, so I will let another editor handle this one. I do note, however, that there are no reliable secondary sources among the references, so I expect your draft will be declined. If no reliable secondary sources exist, the typeface does not qualify for an article. Calliopejen1 (talk) 05:19, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Recently I added more references to this draft, and are you ready to publish in the mainspace?, thanks, --Rodney Araujo Tell me - My contributions 16:53, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

@Rodney Araujo: It's about quality, not quantity. The problem is that you don't have any quality sources yet. You need places where reliable sources are writing about the typeface (e.g. magazine/newspaper/journal articles, books). If sources like this don't exist (and I assume they don't because they have not been added yet, the typeface doesn't qualify for an article. Most typefaces do not qualify, even typefaces that are in relatively wide use. Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:46, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you

Calliopejen1, Your words encouraged me to reformulate the whole draft again And I think we are getting close. Thank you (LLC28146 (talk) 23:00, 20 August 2020 (UTC))

@LLC28146: I'm glad that you were encouraged! I do, however, think that the article has quite a ways to go. Every sentence in the article should contain the facts that are in one of the listed sources, ideally with a footnote to that source. It appears more like you have drafted based on what is in your head regarding kitchen islands than based on what the sources say (?). Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:02, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

I have to admit that I missed the footnotes completely, I feel like the real problem is not me sticking to the facts even though I noticed a mix-up or two. The issue is that all sourced are talking about 300 years of kitchen history and not about kitchen Island what was the original reason for me to undergo my research. (LLC28146 (talk) 23:15, 20 August 2020 (UTC))

@LLC28146: I think I've already mentioned these to you, but be sure to review WP:OR and specifically the subsection WP:SYN. Any article you write must be solely based on what your identified sources say specifically about kitchen islands. Wikipedia can only be a place to summarize existing knowledge from secondary sources, not a place to put new research about the history of kitchen islands. Calliopejen1 (talk) 00:12, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

I don't get this... This section WP:OR states and I cite " Rewriting source material in your own words, while substantially retaining the meaning of the references, is not considered to be original research." That is exactly what I did!? I am supposed to use my own words and refer to the source.

So now this is a "Daft" what does this mean in Wiki land? (LLC28146 (talk) 01:54, 22 August 2020 (UTC))


(LLC28146 (talk) 01:41, 22 August 2020 (UTC))

@LLC28146: "Draft" doesn't really much of anything, it's just the preferred naming for submissions in the Articles for Creation process. And let me give a couple examples of the problems I see:
  • The article says, "The Photographers at Harris & Ewing Inc, (1900-1945) took a picture of a kitchen on 1734 N Street that illustrates two kitchen Island set up as a T." The source for this seems to be a primary-source photograph. Assembling primary sources and writing about them is original research. Historians of kitchen design do that. We at Wikipedia don't do that. We let others sift through the photos and write their conclusions, and then we summarize the conclusions in an encyclopedia article.
  • Harriet Beecher Stowe's writings presumably don't mention kitchen islands, which are a new concept. So we shouldn't use them in an article about kitchen islands. Some historian writing elsewhere needs to draw the connection between Stowe and kitchen islands, and then we can use that historian's article as a source.
  • "In 1963 open Kitchens received a boost, sparked by Juliа Child the French Chеf that premiered her cooking show. " You're right that she had one, but I can't find any sources that discuss how her kitchen island contributed to the broader popularity of kitchen islands. Do you have one?
  • "The Kitchen Island itself is more of a recent development since it is typically found in open floor plans. And it was not until 1934 that the Architect Frank Lloyd Wright introduced the open floor plan in his House Willey (1934) and later in the House Jacobs in (1936)." You list a FLW work under references, but what we need is a writer drawing a connection between FLW's open floor plans and kitchen islands. And then we can source that.

If you don't have secondary sources that draw the connections between these historical works and kitchen islands, all this content needs to be deleted. Does that make sense? Calliopejen1 (talk) 02:59, 22 August 2020 (UTC) Thank you so much for explaining all this to me. For exactly that reason, I researched and published my article, before I set out and started this one addition for Wikipedia. However, I was told that I could not use it as a source because a blog is not reputable, tell that the folks from Houzz or that old home, or the History blog where I pulled most of my info. Either way, I did spend days on research. I looked at enough wiki pages with sources that are de-indexed or don't even exist throughout the years, maybe I should provide replacement resource links for those.

Well, So basically I need to scrap everything history; what does not leave enough to be worth mention it and even less worth arguing the point to get it published.

Again thank you for your help and sorry about wasting your time (LLC28146 (talk) 10:43, 22 August 2020 (UTC))

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Draft:Iván Enrique Rodríguez

Dear @Calliopejen1: I fixed and rediced the edits on the Draft:Iván Enrique Rodríguez. Thanks so much! --MahlerLover (talk) 19:22, 26 August 2020 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by MahlerLover (talkcontribs) 19:20, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

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Hi i really need some help with setting up a wilipwdia page, you have review it tonight and declined it , the reason This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject not really ure what that mdeans,could you give me some help please

Please read the links in the message I left you. Basically, you need to cite magazine/newspaper articles or books that discuss the subject of your article. Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:00, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

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Draft talk:Hazrat Peer Sufi Asrar Ullah Shah Baba

Hi Calliopejen1, answering these questions: Who wrote them and what are the books about? Their relation to the article subject isn't clear. Also, do the books have ISBNs? I'm not finding them in Worldcat.

These were written by Dr. Mustafa Ashraf Asrari and Shah Kaleem Asrari, students of Asrar ullah shah. The books are on the biography of Asrar ullah shah and a collection of his poems. These books don't have a ISBN as of now. Wasefayn (talk) 23:03, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Specially for the article Neurosexism from Rahulsomantalk - contribs 23:38, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! All I did was submit it for review, though... (I'll take credit only for saving it from the potential trash heap.) Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:46, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

The above recently G11'd draft is back; not sure if it's any better. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 04:06, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Marginally. Calliopejen1 (talk) 04:22, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi Calliopejen1, Hope you are in good health and safe from this virus.

Could you please let me know what changes you recommend I make to my article? It is the first time I am writing an article on Wikipedia.

Thank you for your time.

Much Appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newport2020 (talkcontribs) 04:34, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

@Newport2020: Please add citations to in-depth newspaper/magazine articles about Qaderi. You need to establish that he qualifies for a Wikipedia article in the first place, and you do that by citing good sources. Quality over quantity, please. Any language is fine. 3-5 excellent sources are generally enough to establish that someone qualifies. Don't pad your draft with bad sources, but if better sources exist then please identify them as the basis for the article. Also, write your article based solely on what the highest-quality sources say. If no better sources exist, then Qaderi doesn't qualify for an article at this time. Calliopejen1 (talk) 06:51, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Would an artist of a community who sang for more than 25 years not qualify for a wikipedia article? I have seen so many articles on wikipedia without any sourced or any reliable sources at all. Why is there an exception in Qaderi's case? If one artist can qualify why can't another one qualify in your opinion?

Plus this singer has released 8 albums in total. He has a huge social media presence and is a big star in our community. There are artist who are not even from his same caliber but they have wikipedia articles. Our country (Afghanistan) does not have magazine or good sources because it is a war zone for the past 35 years and whatever sources we have would be considered low quality sources. I feel like there is inequality if we are not allowed to write articles about our most famous artist due to the lack of (what you consider) sources.

Plus there is an injustice in allowing articles of other artists who do not have any sources available but rejects my article about this artist.

Can you explain? Thank you, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newport2020 (talkcontribs) 18:51, 28 August 2020 (UTC) Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newport2020 (talkcontribs) 18:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

@Newport2020: (talk page stalker) Please do not post the same question on 3-4 different editors pages. We have all given you pretty decent and in-depth answers. It is your choice what to do with it. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:49, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

That is because different people are attacking my article and you guys are being unfair. I can send you at least 100 articles right now on Wikipedia which promote/advertise a person, or articles without any sources added and they cannot be deleted. It feels like i am being cornered for some reason. No matter how honest my writing is, it feels like anything positive i write about this artist is getting deleted by one of you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newport2020 (talkcontribs) 23:56, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

@Newport2020: I am sorry you feel we are attacking you, that is not our goal. We are trying to educate you on Wikipedia's policies so you can become a resourceful and talented editor. I gave you explicit reasons on my talk page why I deleted said article but you seem to be failing to listen. Please share the 100 articles that you believe violate our WP:NPOV criteria and I will gladly delete them if I agree.
@Newport2020: Fixing ping. On that note, please end your paragraphs with four ~ to sign. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:58, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

My aim is not to get other articles deleted on wikipedia, my aim is to get my article published here. It is a neutral article talking about what this artist has done so far career wise. I'm just disappointed that there there is such imbalance because like I said, Wikipedia is filled with articles that are unbiased, unreliable and so much more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newport2020 (talkcontribs) 00:04, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Newport2020 (talk) 00:13, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Newport2020, OK but WP:Other stuff exists. Right now, we are focusing on the article you wrote. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 00:21, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

I understand. Can I send you my new article for review before submitting it? Newport2020 (talk) 03:18, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

If you get a chance, please review my new article. Thank you! Newport2020 (talk) 04:53, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

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Discrimination in education

I believe this is a fair summary of the research and that your doubts are not justifed. First, it is important to notice that Maalouf et al.'s meta-analysis is restricted to lab experiments where participants are asked to rate an assay – it therefore missed the vast majority of the research on the topic, where the standard is to compare open grading with blind grading in real-life school settings. The few studies reported in Maalouf's paper have a tiny sample size (n=86 and n=241, when most studies I cited have samples in the range of five thousands) . That being said, some experimental studies also found a bias against boys (for example Rangvid et al. 2018), they were simply too recent to be included in the meta-analysis you posted. Now, can we do a fair summary of the research? To my knowledge there is no meta-analysis of real-life grading studies. However, Protivinsky et al. did a systematic review of studies published before 2018. You can find it as Table 1 of their paper (here is a screenshot: https://imgur.com/KNasWgT). It shows overwhelming evidence for bias against boys. In addition, it is always possible to review the literature yourself, for example by looking it up on Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=teacher+grading+gap+gender There you will find most of the studies I referenced in the article. That being said, you were right: I missed some important references when I intially wrote the article. I went through the literature again, and here are studies that I missed:

As you can see, only two studies (out of more than twenty) found a bias against women, which make them outliers (they could still be mentioned in the wiki article). Adding this to the many studies that are already referenced in the page, there is in fact *even more* evidence for grading bias against boys than what I previously thought. Interestingly, the last link, which found bias against girls says "in contrast to previous results", meaning that the researchers are well aware that most studies find bias against boys. In summary, there is no ground for removing this section, so I am reverting it. If you think I missed some part of the evidence, feel free to enrich the article with new references. Cheers, Antovigo (talk) 14:47, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

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Just wanted to say thank you for getting the Claribel Ruth Barnett article moved to main space - we've been working on a huge project at the library and I hadn't been able to revisit it. Hoping to soon though. Thank you again! Jamie-NAL (talk) 14:54, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

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