It does my heart good to see a content creator and editor of your caliber now serving as a member of ArbCom. Congratulations to you and to all of us who helped get you there – it's a win-win! This may turn-out to be one the best ArbComs ever assembled. Atsme📞📧 10:09, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
My sentiments too (top of the list and a plant editor just adds to my pleasure!). Peter coxhead (talk) 10:50, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ditto. Many congratulations. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 11:00, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
My congratulations too, someone who understands content creation. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:10, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Isn't it exciting that all the people I recommended for Arbcom in my humble little guide have been elected; you must feel very pleased that I took such an interest in you – you really mustn't feel the need to thank me. Knowing that so many follow my sage advice is thanks enough. You really should think about moving to America though, you could earn an awful lot of money, especially now you're an Arb, they love that kind of think over there and will probably play extra to be analysed by a Arbitrator, not to mention all the very strange American Wikipedians who need analysing. Would you like to me to give you an advertising plug on my page? The Lady Catherine de Burgh (talk) 17:57, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Congrats! Good year for you, no? 5 million and now back on ArbCom? Glad to see you elected. Johannatalk to me!see my work 03:27, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, I don't really follow these matters, but nice to see you there! FunkMonk (talk) 03:49, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hello! Your submission of Phosphorosaurus at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!
Like yourself,[1] 'twas curious to me to see the at-wits-end principle, and I wondered from whence it came, whilst perusing the vested-contribs arb-case....
nce upon a time... the arbs of olde proposed and passed E.EU in Oct'07, apparently drafted by just-re-elected arb Kirill Lokshin. This boilerplate-principle was used again in a vested-contrib desysop-under-a-cloud of 2007, amongst other places,[2] and also in 2008 and 2009 apparently, after which it was immortalized by outgoing arb Roger Davies with slightly softer wording in Aug'09. Since that time, the at-wits-end verbiage has seen several uses.[3] Although of course I cannot be certain, about any of this, since the ArbCom archives are not public ... wikipedia has a once-top-secret-indefinitely-top-secret policy slash standing order.
Now, beyond the at-wits-end principle in question here, created in 2007 if public documents are to be believed, there are rumours.... Yes, dark rumours, whispered in the darker places of the 'pedia, that long ago an older and seemingly-100%-arbitrary principle, once reigned supreme.... Best not spake of such things now! 75.108.94.227 (talk) 15:33, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Heh, it's "whence" not "from whence" if I ever throw up a remedy "at wit's end"......then....do something arbitrary....Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 20:22, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting...well ya learn somethin' new every day.....Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 20:44, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I found (and have found for years) our article on the notwithstanding clause not very informative, as it glazes over what can actually be suspended. So I added a summary list. When one looks at it on the whole, and the impact it can have, it is no wonder it is the most controversial section. --kelapstick(bainuu) 21:04, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Canadian stuff I am not familar with at all...don't see it much referred to in Oz..... Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 00:14, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Cas Liber, I'm hoping you'll be able to promote some of the full preps to queues in the near future, assuming someone doesn't get there first. Right now all six preps are completely full, while only two queues are full. Thanks for anything you can do. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:35, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Was delighted to see. Its not an easy appointment to say the least, but have a lot of confidence in you, and that you'll be able to balance the content work. Best. Ceoil (talk) 21:12, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah...mixed feelings about it really. Mainly ran to stop things getting really stupid. Will see how it plays out. Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 21:20, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You have record, form and very obviously a mandate, very good signs. But even if, the goodwill towards you will out. In other news (opens begging bowl) I'm thinking of pushing a Fall album for FAC but might need help with a ce and re org, Hex Enduction Hour, if you get a chance. If not I'll decry u as part of the coordinated uncaring about Mark E Smith arb machine conspiracy-a! Ceoil (talk) 21:52, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ok – while I am twiddling my thumbs waiting for FAC reviewers....Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 23:15, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with C all the best in a very thankless task; but an honor to have been voted so handily on...Modernist (talk) 00:11, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Ceoil:, I'm not seeing much to complain about prose-wise, but have been distracted with RL chores and lunchtime beers so my eyes are not the sharpest at present...Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 05:30, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers Cas, appreciate the look, and relieved that you not going to list a list of complaints. It needs a lot of work yet, was just asking from one old ex-punk to another, which I suppose is a bit sad. Did we pretend to think we were still cool? (Now where's my stick) Ceoil (talk) 09:50, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sometimes I am not so good on detail..so I am cautious in reading rough articles that there might be stuff I have missed. Not really familiar with the Fall as they didn't really break over here...Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 10:48, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No probs. Paddy and Pomm music, eh. Ceoil (talk) 17:19, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
nothing to do with flatulence. first there was the idea there could be articles, and actually linked to things, as if meteorology of the southern climes might be of relevance and validity in this over-tech world, then there was an article, it struggled, and there was even an article for the higher number (fifities even had its own stub for a while), then there were the southern ocean battles, with very smart people telling us the great australian bight and bass straight were in the Indian ocean and all the rest. So for a christmas present, even the last vestige of something from the earlier edits Roaring_Forties gets booted, no wonder people think wikipedia is going to the dogs. :) JarrahTree 00:37, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Aah, just trying to trim some See Also stuff that is already in body of article...not been familiar with ocean article wars.....Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 00:42, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
apologies, probably my prob, maybe there is already a ref to the winds in the body of the article... oceanic distinctions is up there with star wars, but historical ... not much in recent years. JarrahTree 00:48, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Err...I suspect there are a butt-tonne of banana cultivars and the cultivar template would refer to a single one only....think the taxobox more prudent. Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 12:56, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
A taxobox is not appropriate and should not have been added. The article Banana does not discuss a taxon, either one named under the ICN or one named under the ICNCP. The taxobox added was for the genus Musa, but this includes many species other than the handful involved in the creation of cultivated bananas and is covered at Musa (genus). The article has not had a taxobox until one was added recently without discussion or consensus. Peter coxhead (talk) 13:36, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
See Talk:Banana#Taxobox for an example of an infobox that would be accurate, although not very useful in my view. Peter coxhead (talk) 13:52, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
(sigh) I shoulda realised that one. I am no autopilot as I am dealing with taxon pages 99% of the time....Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 19:06, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Cas, the orange colour you use to interweave some of your comments on talkpages I find harder to read than should be. I wonder whether you'll consider darkening it a little. Tony(talk) 01:08, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oh I couldn't help myself—pressed the button on your range puncutation in the archives list. Please revert if you don't like! Tony(talk) 01:09, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Meh, no problem. I did the orange for the orange mushroom. unfortunately "darkorange" doesn't appear to be an option....Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 11:19, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Cas Liber, you were going to check some sources and perhaps make some modification to the article based on it that would help with the issues raised in the DYK review. It's been a while; do you think you'll be able to get to this soon? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:10, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@BlueMoonset:, yes this has been tricky. I trawled a few books and couldn't find much interesting. Will have another look. Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 11:17, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Cas Liber, if you get the chance, we're down to only one queue filled, but there are five preps filled and waiting.
There's a potential issue with the iris hook in Prep 4, though, as noted in WT:DYK#Prep 4. I've suggested a potential fix, but if you've promoted the set to Queue 4 before it gets a thumbs up or down from the person who raised the issue, it'll require an admin to take care of it.
Thanks as always for your help in keeping the prep to queue promotions moving. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:34, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for doing those. Time marches on, and the queues are now completely empty while the preps are full. I updated the iris hook, so any preps (including Prep 4) that you can promote to queues would be welcome. Again, thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 06:24, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Casliber, congratulations on your appointment to the WP:AC. I am sure that you will serve the committee to the best of your abilities. Keep up the good work. Cheers, Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 17:53, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Aha, not bad for a first effort. Other points to note - look for copyvios - This tool [4] is useful for general check, or [5] for specific pages. Also that the prose is neutral and not puffy or displaying a POV. And finally that the hook sentence is faithful to the source it is reffed by. If an offline source then there is an AGF template () to use. Cas Liber (talk·contribs)
Hey, I'm still thinking of submitting to Sexuality after spinal cord injury FAC, wondered if you'd be interested in giving it a second look. It's undergone a lot of changes since you reviewed it, and now it's at peer review. Alternately I could just submit it at FAC but I'm intimidated, I've only ever done it once like seven years ago! Anyway, thanks for the advice you've already given and any you'd like to offer in the future! delldot∇. 06:04, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Delldot: I am thinking it looks pretty good (I was out and about so looked at it on smartphone) and within striking distance of FA-hood. I think you should nominate it at FAC. The other person to ping would be Doc JamesCas Liber (talk·contribs) 18:38, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for thinking of me. I do not have much experience with the FA process though. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:47, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It's pretty straightforward really. Big-picture it is just looking at an article and being satisfied that all possible improvements have been implemented...if you think like that it's fine. Maybe just have a look now. Having a long/involved FAC page often scares off other reviewers..... I really need to do another medical article some day....Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 18:50, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much Cas, if you think it's ready to be nominated I'm going to take that as high praise coming from someone with your experience. Doc James, any comments you have as far as errors or omissions would be much appreciated! I'm going to try and give it a final copy edit then nominate it (unless I chicken out). Thanks again to you both. delldot∇. 22:23, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If Doc James is happy then that is a good thing as he has a more exclusive rather than inclusive view of sourcing (generally a Good Thing for medical articles). I can also miss detail sometimes. Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 04:14, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Cas Liber, our last queue was just promoted to the main page about 15 minutes ago. As I write this, three prep sets are ready to go, and more may be made ready before you see this. If you can do any prep to queue promoting when you see this, that would be great. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:14, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Respect from another, though not as well travelled, ex-punk of a certain age, and hope you and yours have an nice upside down christmas. 2016 will be the year that I convert you to the Fall; you have been warned. Ceoil (talk) 17:29, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
We will indeed....humid as fuck here. Got bitten by a bullant on a walk just now...pointing out the critters to the kids..and found one....with my fkn ankle....Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 01:33, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Would hurt I'm sure, but not any reason to use the F word. Espically at christmas. Ceoil (talk) 01:38, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
They were fully 2.54 cm long I tell ya, with jaws all of 0.254 cm and all......Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 02:12, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Little bastards; you poor pet. Ceoil (talk) 02:31, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Noted. No promises, but I'll try to get to it today. --Dweller (talk) 09:40, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Can you help make the Lead more interesting? Seems ridiculously dull for such a successful period in the club's history (I also think it's too long). --Dweller (talk) 16:06, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Will have a go soo...just trying to think of another Xmas DYK. Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 20:07, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Incidentally, could you consider trimming this page a little? It's rather unwieldy for the visitor. --Dweller (talk) 09:09, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, will do soon. Just some stuff has come up. Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 09:12, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'll also get stuck into the prose. The start you made is useful. I've made a further comment at the FAC. --Dweller (talk) 09:24, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Casliber, just checking if you would like to revisit your comments at the FAC for History of Liverpool F.C. (1959–85). Progress has been made since you last commented and I feel the article is close to FA standard. I appreciate you are busy and may struggle for time, but another look would be greatly appreciated. Cheers NapHit (talk) 13:12, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, this is Colton Cosmic. I'm posting here on an administrator's page because I have no other way to seek unblock. I was blocked in 2012 on a unsubstantiated charge of sockpuppetry by an admin who just clicked a button, didn't link any evidence and refused discussion. I appealed but I found myself, I feel, pursued by a set of administrative participants from the WP:AN/ANI orbit, and this diminished my chances at a fair hearing, in fact normally it diminished my chances of even being able to speak in my own defense.
Why you? I figured the top three vote-getters in the Arbcom election would have the least to fear from reprisals by WP:AN/ANI if you saw things my way. So I went to you three on the list and did an eeny-meeny-miny-moe, which came up you.
It never that I've noticed helps to type a long account, so if you'll look into it, just do so and let me know what you see. I'd ask that you not fault me for "not going through normal appeal channels" because they've all been shut off to me. I'd also ask emphasizedly that you not accept anybody's allegations about me without giving me a chance to defend myself to you.
So, I hope you don't give me a curt "no," after all I did contribute to Wikipedia for five or six years without incident. I hope that you look into it and give me a chance to talk with you about what you see.
Colton Cosmic, 23:37, 25 December 2015
Given that you're responding to others that have posted here after me, yet not me, it appears you are ignoring me, which would be rude.
Colton Cosmic
I have been talking about it with others as I am not familiar with your situation and who you originally are/were. Answer me that and what encyclopedic material you intend improving and that would be a start. Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 22:00, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Familiarize you with my situation? Just read my first post as Colton Cosmic: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Colton_Cosmic&oldid=477070007. That was my conscientious statement when I abandoned my (only) prior account. I didn't know it at the time, I was just trying to do things in an honest way, but a privacy cleanstart is expressly, unequivocally authorized in WP:CLEANSTART which is policy.
Tell you my original account? WP:CLEANSTART says specifically one is not required to tell anybody that. It would also risk defeating my privacy concerns. However I did tell Jimbo Wales. He promised to help me get unbanned if I confided him my prior account. I was a bit star-struck and did so. He then had what he wanted and didn't bother to reply to my emails, though he had eagerly sent me some while he sought the account. He did not help me. However a year later, I think it was Nick prompted him, and Jimbo typed at my talkpage that my prior account wasn't blocked, banned, etc.: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AColton_Cosmic&action=historysubmit&type=revision&oldid=618171705&diff=618160512. Please go by Jimbo because I don't want to get burned again.
What do I intend to edit if reinstated? I used to edit whatever interested me, it was nearly always content, but truthfully this experience has changed my view of Wikipedia. I would like to put forth again the Universal Optout policy proposal for the living subjects of BLPs. They should be able to define themselves (*if they want*) not be defined by Wikipedia participants. I believe in a lot of cases BLPs tend to distress their subjects/ I would still edit content, I am interested (this is not facetious) in trees for example. Like Swamp White Oak. Thanks for responding and again I implore you not to accept allegations made against me without allowing me to defend myself to you about them.
Hello! Your submission of Peak oil at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 04:33, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Casliber, I would like to know the extended(?) reason behind the deletion of this page. Because as far as I know, after it was deleted accidentally, it has been restored as a redirect since then, with the edit history intact as an attribution (see here). I'm sure you had checked its log before deletion, so perhaps there's another reason I am not aware of? Regards. −Edward (t⋇c) 07:25, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Now that I have read the reason for CSD and the draft which had been rejected few hours ago, I think I got the full picture of what happened. Thanks for restoring, and was there anything useful in the talk page? I can't remember... On a side note, thanks for semi protecting Running Man (TV series). Cheers. −Edward (t⋇c) 08:26, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. I generally semiprotect articles instead of blocking IPs. Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 09:57, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Cas Liber, for the first time in a while, the queues are completely empty, and the next promotion is in under six hours. Fortunately, the preps are full, so if you could please promote one or two (or more), that would be a great help. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:11, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I left one in prep in case someone was to juggle hooks in the next set to prep...Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 07:21, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Page 14 has a section about involuntary celibacy. This is a citation of the study listed below ( Involuntary celibacy: A life course analysis)
For them, celibacy is not a choice. Since involuntary celibacy is a relatively new area of sex research, few studies have dealt with the dimensions, etiology and consequences of this phenomenon ... we define as one who desires sex but has been unable to find a willing partner for at least six months [...] but after a certain length of time begin to worry.
In addition involuntary celibacy is used to describe individuals who have not chosen to be celibate but who find themselves for various reasons in the position of wanting to engage in sexual activity but not having a partner.
Reasor: Involuntary celibacy negatively affects college students This may not be news to college students, but some people remain sexually inactive through no choice of their own. A desire for sex exists, but no prospects do. There's a term for people who can't get laid: involuntary celibacy, or 'incel.' A longer definition explains: “Involuntary celibacy is chronic near-total or total absence in a person's intimate relationships or sexual intercourse that is occurring for reasons other than voluntary celibacy, asexuality, antisexualism or sexual abstinence.” I think we can all remember that person on our floor freshman year that was involuntarily celibate, no matter how hard he or she tried. But incel is not something to be taken lightly. Newscaster Christine Chubbock committed suicide live on air in 1974, and it was believed that incel was a root reason. As a 30-year-old virgin, she'd suffered unrequited crushes and severe depression.
Denise Donnelly, Elisabeth Burgessb, Sally Andersonb, Regina Davisb & Joy Dillard. "Involuntary celibacy: A life course analysis". The Journal of Sex Research Volume 38, Issue 2, 2001. Retrieved 2015-12-28.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
The study notes:
Using a life course perspective, we explored the development and maintenance of involuntary celibacy for 82 respondents recruited over the I'nternet. Data were collected using an open‐ended electronic questionnaire. Modified grounded theory analysis yielded three groups of involuntary celibates, persons desiring to have sex but unable to find partners. Virgins were those who had never had sex, singles had sex in the past but were unable to establish current sexual relationships, and part‐nereds were currently in sexless relationships. These groups differed on dating experiences, the circumstances surrounding their celibacy, barriers to sexual activity, and the perceived likelihood of becoming sexually active. They were similar, however, in their negative reactions to celibacy. Pervasive in our respondents’ accounts was the theme of becoming and remaining off time in making normative sexual transitions, which in turn perpetuated a celibate life course or trajectory. (This study is peer review and cited over 40 times)
Involuntary celibacy - Often celibacy is an unbidden state, imposed by circumstances, for instance in modern China with its skewed sex ratio or in apartheid bound South Africa where rigid work and travel permits could confine one's marriage partner to a white city, the other to a black township. The American Civil War, which killed of a generation of young men, also doomed their sisters to spinsterhood as maiden aunts, burdensome family charges, and underpaid schoolmarms.
This source is from 1916 and uses the term involuntary abstinence to describe the same thing, if naming is an issue that can be corrected:
Considering the imperious nature of the sexual instinct and the consequences resulting from the failure to gratify it, we must consider the causes that lead to sexual abstinence. For our purposes we may divide sexual abstinence into two class: voluntary abstinence and involuntary abstinence. Involuntary abstinence to take the latter first results from causes beyond the individuals control and often without his knowledge.
Anything by Donnelly is a primary source and can't be used to establish notability, though can be used to flesh out an article. this is a very fleeting mention and is really talking about religious celibacy, this is a newspaper and not a medmos compliant source. The Abbott book I can't see but talks of it in a sociological aspect. I don't see why this need to be covered in a separate article. Spooner's is a one line statement, hardly a detailed discussion.
Thing is, when I was younger and had a bit of a spell between girlfriends, I grew frustrated and felt that I was trying my hardest and the World (and People) were being So Unreasonable. It was only years later when I got some self reflection that I realised I was a bit of a dick at times. Men are often externalisers and keen to blame things in the world around them. Sometimes they are right but sometimes wrong. This idea (incorrectly) reinforces externalisation of blame. Anyway, off we go to AfD #4 it seems. Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 11:38, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Wishing you a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! Bring on the Champagne! Hafspajen (talk) 09:26, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Excuse me. I am lead writer for the Signpost's "Arbitration Report" and am wondering if you would be interested in answering some interviews questions as a newly elected Arbitrator. The questions will be asked through email, unless answering them here would be a more suitable choice. GamerPro64 22:34, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Casliber. Please check your email; you've got mail! It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.
I've gotten told by another Arb about emailing issues. By any chance did you get the email? GamerPro64 18:53, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
We still know very little about the 26-year-old man who killed nine people and injured seven more in an Oregon community college classroom last week. Even before the fatalities had officially been totaled, there were whispers that Chris Harper-Mercer might have belonged to a fringe group that is much-reviled on the Internet: men calling themselves “incels,” for “involuntary celibates.”
But it has certainly drawn attention to the Internet cult of the “involuntary celibate”: people — almost always straight men — who have either never had sex or haven’t found a willing partner for an extended period.
On forums like 4chan’s /r9k/, Reddit’s r/ForeverAlone, and the old-timer Love-Shy.com, incels gather to swap stories and debate the causes of their situations. Some have physical handicaps or psychological disorders that have prevented them from meeting women; some just have bad luck; some are cripplingly introverted — hence “love shy” — or anxious.
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Both Gilmartin and the Georgia State researchers suggest that involuntary celibacy is part of a self-sustaining package of psychological issues: depression, neuroticism, anxiety, autistic disorders. Those problems prevent incels from forming relationships — which in turn makes their depression and anxiety more extreme.
This can be included in the article that mental health implications result in incel. Valoemtalkcontrib 21:03, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It missed the blindingly obvious point that someone needs some degree of sociopathy to pick up a gun and shoot people for starters. Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 21:06, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Also see my last question, if someone has one sexual encounter does that disqualify them? In which case is it "not strictly 100%" celibacy...in which case it equals sexual frustration. Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 21:06, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Did you know ... that back in 1885, Wikipedia editors wrote Good Articles with axes, hammers and chisels?
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I am asking for your assistance and/or help or just simply an opinion. I have been working on this article Draft:Alex Gilbert for a few years now. I keep having an issue with getting it to the main space. It was reviewed last year and then moved to the main space, but was then deleted as it had to go through a deletion review. Now more sources have been appearing for this subject more again. It has gone through 3 deletion reviews with each time the article having much improvement each time!. I don't think or know if anyone is clearly looking at the sources correctly. What are the guidelines for this? am I doing something wrong? Here are the 3 deletion reviews for this article. Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2015_August_24, Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2015_October_29 - The outcome was no consensus and the most recent one - Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2015_December_22. I have detailed all the sources, all reliable. I don't know what I am doing wrong? All of this started from a Nominated for Deletion which is not relevant at all to the subject now (See Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Alex_Gilbert_(2nd_nomination)) .
I will keep working on this draft but I don't want to annoy anyone in the deletion review, but the only way IF it got reviewed and approved again for it to get onto the mainspace is for the article to go through a deletion review. I have listed the references for this Draft below in detail for you. Please if you can have a look I would appreciate it. I appreciate your time and help. --DmitryPopovRU (talk) 08:42, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Long list of references
New Sources that were found since the last Deletion Review.
[7] Retrieved 22 December 2015 - Source is from Channel One Russia. Alex appeared on Russia’s biggest TV Talk show ‘Let them Talk’. This source talks about his journey and also his I’m Adopted Organisation. See [8] (YouTube link to the show) and look at 47:27
[9] and [10] Retrieved 22 December 2015 - Also from Channel One Russia
[11] Retrieved 22 December 2015 - From Yar.kp.ru - A reliable news source from Russia about his work and projects.
[12] Retrieved 24 December 2015 - From Progorod76 - A reliable news source from Russia.
[13] Retrieved 22 December 2015 - Another new source.
[14] Retrieved 22 November 2015. ‘’Whirlwind trip feels like it didn't happen’’ The Northern Advocate - Source talks about his recent trip to Russia for his TV Appearance on ‘Let them Talk’
[15] Retrieved 1 December 2015. ‘’To Russia with love: The Kiwi-Russian taking his homeland by storm’’ - TVNZ - Alex is featured on another TVNZ ‘’Sunday’’ Story about his recent trip to Russia. He is expected to appear on this huge TV Channel in Russia this year.
[16] 16 November 2015. ‘’Alex Gilbert - I crossed the ocean, to see my biological parents” - changeonelife.ru . This is another big article website. It also talks about his recent trip to Russia.
References that cover his 'I'm Adopted' OrganisationPlease note: Yes these were in the old DRV.
[17]Анатомия дня TV ShowNTV Russia Retrieved 29 October 2015. Source covers his Non-Profit Organisation 'I'm Adopted' and talks about him helping others.
[18] Retrieved 22 August 2015. Whangarei boy who traced Russian roots helps fellow Kiwi adoptees find bloodlines (TVNZ) - This source also talks about 'I'm Adopted'
[19] Retrieved August 7, 2015. Russian adoptee shares storiesThe Northern Advocate - This source is only about his 'I'm Adopted' page and mentions A former Russian adoptee raised in Whangarei is helping other adopted people share their stories. This is not a BLP1E am I correct?
[20] Retrieved 4 November 2015. Adoption project enthrals RussiansThe Northern Advocate - This article talks about what impact his page has had with the Russian Media. I have also added these news outlet links to the article. This is due to his 'I'm Adopted' page.
[21] Retrieved 29 October 2015. In social networks, a new unusual community. Children of Russia, adopted by foreigners looking for their biological parents Translated from Russian. NTV Russia - This source is from a huge Russian Media outlet about his I'm Adopted Organisation. Read the article or watch the video.
Other References
[22] Retrieved February 26, 2015. From Russia with loveThe Northern Advocate - This article is about his Book 'My Russian Side' that he published in 2014. It reads Now 22, Alex, has written a book about his journey.
[23] Retrieved 23 February 2015. TVNZ - This is his actual Full Length NZ TV Documentary Story which aired in NZ and yes at the time was an issue where BLP1E was talked about in the previous deletions. New Sources have since been found and updated. ALOT MORE
[24] Retrieved July 2, 2014. The New Zealand Herald - This article covers a meet up Alex Gilbert had with another New Zealander he found through his TV Documentary.
[25] Retrieved 16 November 2015. Change One Life Russia - This article is an excellent interview with Alex Gilbert about his own story and journey.
[26] Retrieved 5 June 2015. - TV3 NZ - This TV Show features Alex who talks to other adoptees who are going through the same journey as he went through.
References in Russian Language
If you can't understand them then don't comment. People have been ignoring these. These are put up as a support to the article. It shows you how much coverage it had.
[27] Retrieved 21 October 2015. yarcom.ru - This article talks about his experience and journey.
[28] Retrieved 21 October 2015 New Zealander Alex Gilbert found his mother in the Rybinsk, threw him in the hospital . echo76 - New Russian article talking also about his life and journey to Russia.
[29] Retrieved 21 October 2015. New Zealander found in Rybinsk own mother - 76.ru - This article notes if translated Now the young man helps the other people who find themselves in a similar situation, to find their loved ones.
[30] Retrieved 21 October 2015. progorod76.ru- The guy from New Zealand found in the Yaroslavl region his own mother
[31] Retrieved 21 October 2015. http://rweek.ru/ - This article talks about his journey and experience also
[32] Retrieved 21 October 2015. yarnews.net - New Zealander Alex Gilbert found his mother in the Rybinsk
[33] Retrieved 21 October 2015. vesti.ru - This source is from Vesti News. One of the largest TV News outlets in Russia - Russia-24
[34] Retrieved 22 October 2015. http://bsvesti.ru/ - This is another alternative news source
[35] Retrieved 1 November 2015 yar.kp.ru - Another news source in Russia
Thanks for your support in 2015, expecting even more in a year with you on arbcom ;) - ring the peace bell often, - look for hidden music by Bach, Sibelius and Verdi! - Any help with replacing the Sibelius hook for In Memoriam by BWV 171? (It's on DYKTALK, twice.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:57, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I can see it in prep 5 ...but where else? I am going to bed soon as 1am here. Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 14:04, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sibelius is in prep 5, but we have another one on the Main page right now, - people have complained about too much Sibelius already. Bach's cantata, composed for today (!), is not yet in prep at all. It could replace the Sibelius in prep, which could go to the end of prep or back to noms. See Wikipedia talk:Did you know#New Year music needs help. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:14, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Cas Liber, I placed the Sibelius in prep 4, which was the only open prep; I didn't think it made sense to unpromote it. When you're next editing, do you think you can promote at least one prep t
o queue? The queues are empty, and it would be a shame to end New Year's Day by going off schedule. Thanks as always. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:57, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Cas Liber, I liked what you did, happy that we didn't have the memory of the assassin so close to New Year's Day, also unpromote is ok at 1am. I like to see the cantata right now! Next concern (so sorry that I was a bit slow over the feast days, singing and family): another cantata is in special occasions for 3 January, and queues and preps are already quite full. I don't mind during the week, because more people tend to look then, but can you (or someone watching) get it in prep as soon as possible, because there will be a different one for the next Sunday ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:57, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I see you have the same problem in the message above. I got the same message. I'm trying to fix my nomination and tried to follow the directions but I still don't know if I got it right. Help! Best Regards,
Cas Liber, sorry to keep bothering you like this, but the last queue has just been main-paged, and the next four preps are ready. If you could do some promoting from prep to queue, that would be great. Many thanks as always for keeping DYK humming; I hope the New Year is a great one so far. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:16, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
WikiProject Rugby League on Wikipedia Signpost[edit]
WikiProject Rugby League will be appearing on the Wikipedia Signpost this week, and I'm wondering if you'd be interested in participating in the interview? Leeds United FC fan (talk) 20:01, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I assume you don't mind if the responses aren't in purple when the article is published? Leeds United FC fan (talk) 21:42, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah that's fine. Just colour coded it for navigation. 23:28, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Casliber, I feel almost naive asking after eight days of silence, but have you decided if you're going to do anything re: my ban? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Casliber#Will_You_Consider_Helping_Me_Get_Unbanned.3F.) You said you were looking into it, so it would be nice to hear something. I posted here once since then but my comment was deleted by a sockpuppet of (I guess) one of my pursuers. If you disapprove of such deletions on your talkpage, you might say so to those that do it.
Colton Cosmic 22:25, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Just in case you didn't know (and CC neglected to tell you), this user is site banned per this AN discussion. Favonian (talk) 22:47, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes been reading a bit. Colton I am unable to help you. Sorry. Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 01:00, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I believe WP:ADMIN obliges you to give a reason for your decision.
Colton Cosmic
PS: Interesting to see Favonian, a person whom I've never crossed or offended in any way that I know of, 18 months or whatever after he or she last voted to ban me, ever eager with his or her block button to get me again.
I'm currently in Melbourne - which explains my recent interest in Australian birds. This is my first visit to Australia - I've come to look after three small grandchildren. I've been struck by the number of large, noisy and colourful birds. I don't need binoculars. The Corymbia ficifolia are in flower and full of rainbow lorikeets. Frustratingly, my vpn access to scientific journals via my former institution appears to have been blocked. I'll need to ask for its reinstatement on my return to London - this is in two weeks. Aa77zz (talk) 22:52, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah there are some cool ones...I see lots of red wattlebirds in my garden. I've buffed many of the common city birds up to GA/FA, but there are a few more to go magpie-lark being a notable one too. Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 23:29, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I can't believe there is only one Cas Liber - surely there must be at least 100 of them. My thanks to every one of you for the amazing volume of work you do. Gderrin (talk) 03:37, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hola. The DYK process is something I have learnt anew. So it is special to have my page featured on Wikipedia's main page today. Feels surreal as I joined Wikipedia only last month. Thank you for this. Xender Lourdes (talk) 04:11, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Casliber. After your help in getting my DYK featured on the main page, I got two more DYKs reviewed and passed. But today is special. I got my first good article. Leaving a note as I just wanted to share with the editors who have helped me in one way or the other. Xender Lourdes (talk) 16:34, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Cas Liber, we've had our first warning in quite a while about empty queues with two hours to go. Right now Preps 1 and 2 are ready for promotion, so if you see this, please promote one or both of them. None of the subsequent preps are full enough as yet, unfortunately. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:25, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yikes. Not near a computer and won't be for several hours.....talk pages stalkers? Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 22:44, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hello! Your submission of Peak oil at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! North America1000 06:48, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Cas Liber. Thanks for your work on the lead contest so far. Could you please help me to move Draft:2015 Cape wildfires to my user space. It's been tagged for speedy deletion and I haven't had a lot of time to work on if. Thanks. Nathan121212 (talk) 03:50, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ta for that. It's interesting - I agree (at this stage) that she's not notable, yet if you Google her name, you get 750,000 hits. What a strange world.
Have a look at the notability guidelines on people (see Wikipedia:Notability (people)) and keep it in mind if you do find some reliable sources, as that might change things. Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 06:42, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Isopogon anemonifolius you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sainsf -- Sainsf (talk) 16:41, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Finding permalink of Diff for DYK on main page[edit]
Hi, Cas. How do I find the permalink or Diff for the main page version showing the DYK for P. t.? I think it was December 15 but I cannot find a way to lookup main page edit history. Ping me back. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 23:21, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Checkingfax: If you look at the history of the main page, you'll not see much change as it is all the daughter templates that change. Hence it'd be this page history you'd be wanting (hooks on main page). However, the only way to preserve what the main page looked like would be to do a screenshot. Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 12:35, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Bummer, Cas. I only recently learned that Diff pages still change dynamically for content that depends on daughter templates. Too bad DYKs and other main page daughter templates are not substituted—then they would be persistent instead of dynamic. Ugh. Maybe we could develop a bot to screenshoot the main page twice a day and upload it and index at the Commons then provide a hyperlink to the directory of screenshots from the DYK and other departments that template on to the main page? Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 07:43, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
UPDATE: I quickly found the Diffs for two DYKs I was interested in. Not as good as a main page Diff but a close cigar. Check out what I did with the links: User:Checkingfax#Did you know. Thank you, Cas. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 08:00, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You could always reconstitute the mainpage as it would have looked in a sandbox I guess...Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 12:05, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Cas Liber! For your excellent job for the whole clan of Banksias and, needless to mention, your infinite contributions to Wikipedia, especially to flora, for which no praise shall be praiseworthy enough! Sainsf <^>Talk all words 10:40, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The article Isopogon anemonifolius you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Isopogon anemonifolius for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sainsf -- Sainsf (talk) 04:21, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This. Then why am I being admonished while Arbcom allow FPAS a free pass to tell people to fuck off? To make blocks which are removed minutes later? To make personal attacks during the case itself? This is utterly screwed up. I understand how it works now. Goodbye. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:47, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You've been foul-tempered for months now (compared with years ago). I don't know what's up with you but you need to take a good hard look, maybe even go talk to someone. I don't know. I agree with folks trying to push to improve content and call out silly behaviour. I really do, but you undermine the value of this by gratuitous cantankerousness. Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 19:52, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Cantankerous behaviour does not equate (and has never, in my case equated to) telling a user to "fuck off". Nor has it resulted in a bad block (and never has, in my case) which has been undone minutes later. But have it your way. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:28, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
So you deny you've been more short tempered this past year or two? Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 21:09, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Firstly will you please archive this page more frequently. 336k bytes is just ridiculous. Spare a thought for users with slow connections or using devices with small screens. My personal rule is to archive when the page gets to 64K bytes - having grown up with 8 bit and 16 bit processors, I still find it a bit surprising that a page can exceed 65535 bytes without crashing.
No mate, this edit was not a mistake. OK, it would have been kinder if I had done this edit but a user of your experience ought to know the colon trick when talking about categories. The page popped up in CAT:CSD - what was expected to do about it? — RHaworth (talk·contribs) 21:53, 22 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'll archive the page soon. Regardless of whether I should know it or not, just deleting the message was akin to hittinga thumbtack with a sledgehammer. But whatever. Cas Liber (talk·contribs) 06:55, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Cas Liber, I'm hoping that you'll be editing again sometime in the next six hours, and will have time to promote a prep or three to queue before it's time for the bot to supply a set to the main page. Thanks as always. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:00, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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