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Re edits to "Ngaiire" page

Hi Christian75,

thanks for your interest in the Ngaiire page. I've a question for you though: You have listed the article as 'year of birth missing', however it does read "Ngaiire was born in Lae, Papua New Guinea in 1984 as Ngaire Laun Joseph" in the Early Life section. (her actual DOB is withheld due to a request from Ngaiire, even though it can be found in the public domain).

Is there a correct way to include the year of birth?

Thanks Werafa Werafa (talk) 21:59, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

@Werafa: I was just tagging a lot of article with Category:Living people but without Category:"Year" births. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biographies (shortcut MOS:BIO) describes how to add year of birth in the article – or you can look at any biography of a famous person (they follow the Manual of Style)... I changed the unknown category to 1984 births. Christian75 (talk) 07:29, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Christian75, There is obviously much that I have yet to learn :) Werafa (talk) 10:50, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

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Color links based on quality assessment

Fix:Any idea why this scipt User:Pyrospirit/metadata/assesslinks.js doesnt work anymore? (It stoped working a few years ago). It add a link in the sidebar (assess link) which color all links in the article in respect to its wikiproject class. Christian75 (talk) 13:28, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Here's one that might work: User:N8wilson/AQFetcher ("Article Quality Fetcher"). The Transhumanist 09:24, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
@The Transhumanist: Thanks for letting me know. I will try soon :-) Christian75 (talk) 07:22, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
You're welcome. I hope it works! The Transhumanist 07:24, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Still works for me. Been a while since I've looked at the script but feel free to let me know if you have issues. Cheers. N8 04:26, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

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Use of "(disambiguation)"

Since in the discussion at Talk:Haswell (CPU)#Requested move 11 February 2017, you expressed an opinion regarding the use of disambiguators, these two current discussions, Talk:Catherine Blake (disambiguation)#Requested move 4 February 2017 and Talk:Edward Wynne#Requested move 10 February 2017, both of which focus on that subject, may be of interest. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 15:27, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nominations

Hi, keep in mind [39] before you nominate new articles for speedy deletion. You could ask me if I would expand two articles I created before you nominated them. Ktrimi991 (talk) 11:38, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

@Ktrimi991: I didn't want to annoy you. You created two very small articles. I am aware of the content of your link (I think the nomination satisfies WP:A3). I suggest adding content and the article will probably not be deleted (seems notable subject), and in the future using a sandbox before publishing a one-liner and maybe read Wikipedia:Your first article. Christian75 (talk) 12:44, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
I was copying under construction template to put it in articles when I received your messages. I am aware of Wikipedia:Your first article because I have created other articles before. The articles were moved to Draft space and everything is OK. Thank you for your advice! Best regards! Ktrimi991 (talk) 16:19, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

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Hii dear help me please I want a Wikipedia article Giteshs78 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:02, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

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Re: suggest @ Template talk:this is a redirect

Since you didn't respond to my response on that section of the template talkpage we're both visiting frequently at the moment (perhaps you overlooked the response because we're also talking in two other sections?) I figured I'd drop you a line: would you mind if I make a start at the manual conversion of {{Redr|rmf|p}}? Like I said there, I can probably wipe those redrs out in two to two-and-a-half day, but I've held off in case you decided to pursue making a BOTREQ anyway—doing both would either waste your time or mine depending on who got to it faster, so I thought I'd double-check. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 08:06, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

@AddWittyNameHere: Hello. Sorry, I got distracted because I started reading at the "bot request" page to figure out how long time a request takes. You are welcome to start fix them. If you want a list of them just let me know. Christian75 (talk) 11:29, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
Happens, no worries. Just figured that since you had been on the page since I responded (as evident by your other post there), I might as well just ask because either you overlooked it or got distracted. Hm...the great majority of what is in that category uses those specific templates, right? May as well just work from the category itself then and see what else is there that needs fixing. (I'd suspect that of the 700 or so that aren't using the exact formula above, some are using alternate variations thereof or simply have yet more redirect templates and thus don't match perfectly. Some will perhaps not be using redr at all, but that's fine. It's not like pressing CTRL-W every now and then harms me any...) I'll finish my current string of categorizing taxa named by Józef Razowski as Category:Taxa named by Józef Razowski, and then I'll make a start on the chemical formula redrs. :) AddWittyNameHere (talk) 11:35, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

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You are editing incredibly fast, either in a bot-like manner / with an unapproved bot. Were these edits discussed? Assuming they have consensus, I strongly recommend getting a WP:BOTREQ/WP:BRFA for them so they can be done by a bot with the many benefits that come with it. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 14:27, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

@Headbomb: I know - I am editing fast, but its only four lines I have to watch, and only one line is changed and converted into three new lines. And because its only four lines in all, it take close to zero seconds to save the page and get a new one. I have suggested at Template_talk:This_is_a_redirect#Suggest:_Request_a_bot_for_Category:Redirects_from_molecular_formulas to let a boot do some of the conversions - but I didn't get consensus. I am watching every diff before I save it. Christian75 (talk) 14:40, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Reading that, I don't see any objection to having this done by a bot. That template is used 260,000 times (with 2000-3000 for molecular formulas), having this done manually is not viable. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 14:51, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
@Headbomb: Maybe you are right, there was no strong objection, but in the thread before ("Deprecation") Paine Ellsworth says "So far, no one has come forward with a bot that's able to make the conversions". I am converting one string to antoher string. No scripting magic involved, and if any {{R from ...} is placed outside the {{Rcat shell}} I'm moving them inside manually. I am not converting any {{redr|from move}} because I think that an enormous amount contains that string from a periode where MediaWiki:Move-redirect-text added that string to every move. I suggested (still in the "Deprecation" thread" to find every call to the template with just one parameter; but no consensus that. The reason for the suggestion was, that it would be really easy for a bot to convert. The biggist problem converting the old template to the new one is there is a hugh amount of shortcuts. Christian75 (talk) 15:12, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
This falls under WP:BOTPOL fairly unambiguously because of the repetitive task, number of pages and editing speed. Watching edits simply makes it a manual (WP:BOTASSIST, WP:MEATBOT) task. But you still need approval and demonstrable consensus to not only do the task, but to do it en masse. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 15:16, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
@Hellknowz: I will not continue the edits. WP:BOTPOL doesn't say much about semi-automated edits, except the WP:MEATBOT section which talks about errors. WP:BOTPOL cleary define what a bot is, and most of the page is about bots. WP:ASSISTED has a lot of "advised to" and "may" etc. but no shall. But it says "While such [assisted edits] contributions are not usually considered to constitute use of a bot, if there is any doubt, you should make an approval request". And I will figure out what to do. Thanks. Christian75 (talk) 16:05, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

There's a few thing you could do here. It's fine if a bot can't handle everything, but if it can handle 50% of cases, then you've made a big dent in the backlog. Then you look at the remaining ones, and trying to find a way to tackle another 10%, then refine and cover another 5%, and so on.

Another option is that you get a bot account and edit manually from there. The benefits would be that those edits would have the bot flag, which removes the edits from recent changes, and lets users hide them from their watchlists. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 15:19, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

@Headbomb: - thanks. I will think carefully about my next step. Christian75 (talk) 16:05, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

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Torra di Santa Maria Chjapella

Hello! I saw your request to speedy delete the article Torra di Santa Maria Chjapella per G6, so that the redirect Tour de Santa Maria della Chiappella can be moved to that title. I do not see any discussion of which title would be better, or why it would not best be titled "Tower of" as in the lede sentence of the article. I have temporarily removed the speedy tag, pending your explanation. Thanks. --MelanieN (talk) 20:25, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

@MelanieN: - I have no opinion about which title it should, but right now Torra di Santa Maria Chjapella is a copy/paste move and should be deleted. Article should be moved ot copied and redirected. See Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia - Christian75 (talk) 22:08, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I'm having trouble following this. I see multiple moves in the histories; where is the copy-paste, and from what? Is there some existing Wikipedia article that this was copied from? If so, should this be tagged as a copyvio (G12) instead of G6? Anyhow, here's the problem right now: Tour de Santa Maria della Chiappella is a redirect to Torra di Santa Maria Chjapella. You requested G6 deletion of the "Torra" article saying it was holding up a move from the "Tour" article. But the "Tour" article is just a redirect and has no content; the "Torra" article is the only one with any content. If I speedy-delete the "Torra" article, what is left? --MelanieN (talk) 22:34, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
@MelanieN: - Its opposite. The redirect Tour de Santa Maria della Chiappella contains the history and was copied and redirected to Torra di Santa Maria Chjapella which contains the "paste" and out edits [132]. Christian75 (talk) 05:20, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
(And G12: The G12 says it does not apply to "Wikipedia mirror" and "nor is mere lack of attribution of such works a reason for speedy deletion." - so I do not think it would pass a G12.) Christian75 (talk) 05:23, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
OK. So you are going to move the Tour article to Torra, and then you will restore the content from the history? Which leaves the article at Torra, and leaves unanswered the question of what the article should actually be called. OK, well, I'll delete it per G6 and let others figure out where things should actually be. --MelanieN (talk) 15:07, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
I have made the move and restored the content. Do you want to check and see if things are OK now? --MelanieN (talk) 15:35, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
@MelanieN: Thanks. My main concern was the history of the article - and that looks fine now :-) Christian75 (talk) 08:59, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

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Hi! Just replying to what seems like a question in your edit summary here. The redirect is being discussed at RfD and it was discovered it could be an acronym for hexahydroxytriphenylene. It would have been nice to get input from the chemistry wikiproject to see whether this might need to be covered somewhere, and tagging the redirect for that project would result in the RfD showing up in the project's article alerts. Well, it had been tagged for a while now, without much effect, so I don't have any objections to the removal of the tag. – Uanfala 11:56, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

@Uanfala: Thanks for the explanation. I was just surprised to see a link to http have a WP Chem. tag. There is a lot of initialism in chemistry, so do not expect that chemist know what HHTP means. Christian75 (talk) 10:03, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Importance ratings, not just Chemistry

Hi, re this edit: looking at their contribs, it looks like they've cranked a lot of other pages up to High or Top importance for several wikiprojects, beginning with this edit. Should we just put them all back to how they were before that user touched the pages? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:59, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

@Redrose64:. I looked at some of his talk page edits, and I really don't know what to say. A lot of the edits looks fair, but like many others, they think that topics are top or high, but do not consider that the wikiprojets have 1000++ articles, and not everything can be top/high importance. Another mistake is that the person add WP Chemicals to drug classes (WP Chemicals is just for pure chemicals - but thats a mistake a lot of people do). I do not know if WP womens health wants all the drug articles... Christian75 (talk) 10:30, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

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A recent page move

Hello there. I have done some editing on the newly created Christmas in Denmark article lately and noticed that you moved it to Yule and christmas in Denmark. While I have no opinion about the move itself, I just want to note that Christmas is written with a capital C. RhinoMind (talk) 02:03, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I moved it to Christmas with capital C. Christian75 (talk) 03:05, 27 December 2017 (UTC)