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Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2021).

Guideline and policy news

  • Consensus has been reached to delete all books in the book namespace. There was rough consensus that the deleted books should still be available on request at WP:REFUND even after the namespace is removed.
  • An RfC is open to discuss the next steps following a trial which automatically applied pending changes to TFAs.

Technical news

  • IP addresses of unregistered users are to be hidden from everyone. There is a rough draft of how IP addresses may be shown to users who need to see them. This currently details allowing administrators, checkusers, stewards and those with a new usergroup to view the full IP address of unregistered users. Editors with at least 500 edits and an account over a year old will be able to see all but the end of the IP address in the proposal. The ability to see the IP addresses hidden behind the mask would be dependent on agreeing to not share the parts of the IP address they can see with those who do not have access to the same information. Accessing part of or the full IP address of a masked editor would also be logged. Comments on the draft are being welcomed at the talk page.

Arbitration

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Tech News: 2021-27

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News

  • The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 19 July.

Recent changes

  • AutoWikiBrowser is a tool to make repetitive tasks easier. It now uses JSON. Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage has moved to Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPageJSON and Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Config. Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage/Version has moved to Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage/VersionJSON. The tool will eventually be configured on the wiki so that you don't have to wait until the new version to add templates or regular expression fixes. [1]

Problems

  • InternetArchiveBot helps saving online sources on some wikis. It adds them to Wayback Machine and links to them there. This is so they don't disappear if the page that was linked to is removed. It currently has a problem with linking to the wrong date when it moves pages from archive.is to web.archive.org. [2]

Changes later this week

  • The tool to find, add and remove templates will be updated. This is to make it easier to find and use the right templates. It will come to the first wikis on 7 July. It will come to more wikis later this year. [3][4]
  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

  • Some Wikimedia wikis use Flagged Revisions or pending changes. It hides edits from new and unregistered accounts for readers until they have been patrolled. The auto review action in Flagged Revisions will no longer be logged. All old logs of auto-review will be removed. This is because it creates a lot of logs that are not very useful. [5]

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17:31, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-29

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The tool to find, add and remove templates was updated. This is to make it easier to find and use the right templates. It was supposed to come to the first wikis on 7 July. It was delayed to 12 July instead. It will come to more wikis later this year. [6][7]
  • Special:UnconnectedPages lists pages that are not connected to Wikidata. This helps you find pages that can be connected to Wikidata items. Some pages should not be connected to Wikidata. You can use the magic word __EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ on pages that should not be listed on the special page. [8]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 July. It will be on all wikis from 22 July (calendar).

Future changes

  • Advanced item How media is structured in the parser's HTML output will soon change. This can affect bots, gadgets, user scripts and extensions. You can read more. You can test it on Testwiki or Testwiki 2.
  • Advanced item The parameters for how you obtain tokens in the MediaWiki API were changed in 2014. The old way will no longer work from 1 September. Scripts, bots and tools that use the parameters from before the 2014 change need to be updated. You can read more.

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15:29, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

The Signpost: 25 July 2021

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Tech News: 2021-30

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • A new version of MediaWiki came to the Wikimedia wikis the week before last week. This was not in Tech News because there was no newsletter that week.

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 July. It will be on all wikis from 29 July (calendar).

Future changes

  • If you use the Monobook skin you can choose to switch off responsive design on mobile. This will now work for more skins. If ⧼monobook-responsive-label⧽ is unticked you need to also untick the new preference Enable responsive mode. Otherwise it will stop working. Interface admins can automate this process on your wiki. You can read more.

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21:09, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2021).

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC is open to add a delay of one week from nomination to deletion for G13 speedy deletions.

Technical news

  • Last week all wikis were very slow or not accessible for 30 minutes. This was due to server lag caused by regenerating dynamic lists on the Russian Wikinews after a large bulk import. (T287380)

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

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Tech News: 2021-31

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Advanced item If your wiki uses markup like <div class="mw-content-ltr"> or <div class="mw-content-rtl"> without the required dir attribute, then these will no longer work in 2 weeks. There is a short-term fix that can be added to your local wiki's Common.css page, which is explained at T287701. From now on, all usages should include the full attributes, for example: <div class="mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr" lang="en"> or <div class="mw-content-rtl" dir="rtl" lang="he">. This also applies to some other HTML tags, such as span or code. You can find existing examples on your wiki that need to be updated, using the instructions at T287701.
  • Reminder: Wikimedia has migrated to the Libera Chat IRC network, from the old Freenode network. Local documentation should be updated.

Problems

  • Last week, all wikis had slow access or no access for 30 minutes. There was a problem with generating dynamic lists of articles on the Russian Wikinews, due to the bulk import of 200,000+ new articles over 3 days, which led to database problems. The problematic feature has been disabled on that wiki and developers are discussing if it can be fixed properly. [9][10]

Changes later this week

  • When adding links to a page using VisualEditor or the 2017 wikitext editor, disambiguation pages will now only appear at the bottom of search results. This is because users do not often want to link to disambiguation pages. [11]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 August. It will be on all wikis from 5 August (calendar).

Future changes

  • The team of the Wikipedia app for Android is working on communication in the app. The developers are working on how to talk to other editors and get notifications. You can read more. They are looking for users who want to test the plans. Any editor who has an Android phone and is willing to download the app can do this.
  • The Beta Feature for Discussion tools will be updated in the coming weeks. You will be able to subscribe to individual sections on a talk page at more wikis. You can test this now by adding ?dtenable=1 to the end of the talk page's URL (example).

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20:45, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-32

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

  • You can read but not edit 17 wikis for a few minutes on 10 August. This is planned at 05:00 UTC. This is because of work on the database. [12]

Changes later this week

  • The Wikimania Hackathon will take place remotely on 13 August, starting at 5:00 UTC, for 24 hours. You can participate in many ways. You can still propose projects and sessions.
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 August. It will be on all wikis from 12 August (calendar).
  • Advanced item The old CSS <div class="visualClear"></div> will not be supported after 12 August. Instead, templates and pages should use <div style="clear:both;"></div>. Please help to replace any existing uses on your wiki. There are global-search links available at T287962.

Future changes

  • The Wikipedia Library is a place for Wikipedia editors to get access to sources. There is an extension which has a new function to tell users when they can take part in it. It will use notifications. It will start pinging the first users in September. It will ping more users later. [13]
  • Advanced item Vue.js will be the JavaScript framework for MediaWiki in the future. [14]

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16:18, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi, good morning, can you help me fix my talk page? I must have pressed something and the page was blanked, your messages as well as others disappeared. I can't get it back to how it was. Bowling Agenda 2020 (talk) 04:17, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-33

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can add language links in the sidebar in the new Vector skin again. You do this by connecting the page to a Wikidata item. The new Vector skin has moved the language links but the new language selector cannot add language links yet. [15]

Problems

  • There was a problem on wikis which use the Translate extension. Translations were not updated or were replaced with the English text. The problems have been fixed. [16][17][18]

Changes later this week

  • A revision tag will soon be added to edits that add links to disambiguation pages. This is because these links are usually added by accident. The tag will allow editors to easily find the broken links and fix them. If your wiki does not like this feature, it can be hidden. [19]
  • Would you like to help improve the information about tools? Would you like to attend or help organize a small virtual meetup for your community to discuss the list of tools? Please get in touch on the Toolhub Quality Signal Sessions talk page. We are also looking for feedback from tool maintainers on some specific questions.
  • In the past, edits to any page in your user talk space ignored your mute list, e.g. sub-pages. Starting this week, this is only true for edits to your talk page. [20]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 August. It will be on all wikis from 19 August (calendar).

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19:25, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-34

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The Score extension (<score> notation) has been re-enabled on public wikis and upgraded to a newer version. Some musical score functionality may no longer work because the extension is only enabled in "safe mode". The security issue has been fixed and an advisory published.

Problems

  • You will be able to read but not edit some wikis for a few minutes on 25 August. This will happen around 06:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance. During this time, operations on the CentralAuth will also not be possible.

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 August. It will be on all wikis from 26 August (calendar).

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21:57, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Read-only reminder

A maintenance operation will be performed on Wednesday August 25 06:00 UTC. It should only last for a few minutes.

Also during this time, operations on the CentralAuth will not be possible (GlobalRenames, changing/confirming e-mail addresses, logging into new wikis, password changes).

For more details about the operation and on all impacted services, please check on Phabricator.

A banner will be displayed 30 minutes before the operation.

Please help your community to be aware of this maintenance operation. Thank you!

20:33, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

The Signpost: 29 August 2021

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Tech News: 2021-35

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

  • Musical scores were unable to render lyrics in some languages because of missing fonts. This has been fixed now. If your language would prefer a different font, please file a request in Phabricator. [21]

Changes later this week

  • Advanced item The parameters for how you obtain tokens in the MediaWiki API were changed in 2014. The old way will no longer work from 1 September. Scripts, bots and tools that use the parameters from before the 2014 change need to be updated. You can read more about this.
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 September. It will be on all wikis from 2 September (calendar).

Future changes

  • You will be able to read but not edit Commons for a few minutes on 6 September. This will happen around 05:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance.
  • All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes in the week of 13 September. More information will be published in Tech News later. It will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [22]

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15:59, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2021).

Administrator changes

readded Jake Wartenberg
removed Emperor • Viridian Bovary
renamed Ashleyyoursmile → Viridian Bovary

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The Score extension has been re-enabled on public wikis. It has been updated, but has been placed in safe mode to address unresolved security issues. Further information on the security issues can be found on the mediawiki page.

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:44, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Dinogad's smock

Hi just re your recent reviews of the redirects I set up for this page, there are a couple of incomplete statements there. The template you added states that the redirect is in an unknown language. If knowing the language is important, Peis Dinogat is the name in the Old Welsh language and Pais Dinogad is the name in the Welsh language. The phrase "Dinogat's Smock" is not a misspelling, it is simply an alternative name, as the poem itself is untitled.

I don't know the significance of the review messages you added, it may be they don't need any change. If so, feel free to ignore this message. All the best.Boynamedsue (talk) 11:21, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-36

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The wikis that have Growth features deployed have been part of A/B testing since deployment, in which some newcomers did not receive the new features. Now, all of the newcomers on 21 of the smallest of those wikis will be receiving the features. [23]

Changes later this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

  • Advanced item In 2017, the provided jQuery library was upgraded from version 1 to 3, with a compatibility layer. The migration will soon finish, to make the site load faster for everyone. If you maintain a gadget or user script, check if you have any JQMIGRATE errors and fix them, or they will break. [24][25]
  • Last year, the Portuguese Wikipedia community embarked on an experiment to make log-in compulsory for editing.  The impact report of this trial is ready. Moving forward, the Anti-Harassment Tools team is looking for projects that are willing to experiment with restricting IP editing on their wiki for a short-term experiment. Learn more.

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15:19, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Overlinking of locations

WP:OLINK clearly states: "...the following are usually not linked: locations (e.g., New Delhi; New York City, or just New York if the city context is already clear; London, if the context rules out London, Ontario; Southeast Asia".

Rome is one of the most famous and easily recognisable cities in the world; on other examples, a judgement-call may be needed, eg., South Georgia, Cameroon, some volatile arab countries Libya, Iraq and countries/places that have been renamed, Malagasy, Myanmar, Maputo.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 17:26, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

@Rocknrollmancer: In practice, we link every thing in someone's birthplace except the country (although there are cases where the country is linked, mostly the defunct countries). This is done not just to motorcycle racer articles; this is done in virtually almost all articles, especially sportspeople's articles. I would say this is a matter of consistency with the majority of the articles. Articles that populate Category:Sportspeople from Rome link to Rome (some even linking to Italy) so I don't think there is a problem linking Rome in Franco's article (Italy is not even linked). Engr. Smitty Werben 17:41, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
"In practice" this is likely due to fancruft, ie., partisan editing from IP addresses and drive by usernames, rather than from following guidelines.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 17:51, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-37

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 September. It will be on all wikis from 16 September (calendar).
  • Starting this week, Wikipedia in Italian will receive weekly software updates on Wednesdays. It used to receive the updates on Thursdays. Due to this change, bugs will be noticed and fixed sooner. [28]
  • You can add language links in the sidebar in the new Vector skin again. You do this by connecting the page to a Wikidata item. The new Vector skin has moved the language links but the new language selector cannot add language links yet. [29]
  • The syntax highlight tool marks up code with different colours. It now can highlight 23 new code languages. Additionally, golang can now be used as an alias for the Go programming language, and a special output mode has been added to show a program's output. [30][31]

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15:31, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021

New Page Review queue September 2021

Hello Dieter Lloyd Wexler,

Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.

Copyright violations are also a serious issue. Most non-regular contributors do not understand why, and most of our Reviewers are not experts on copyright law - and can't be expected to be, but there is excellent, easy-to-follow advice on COPYVIO detection here.

At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.

There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.

If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process or its software.

Various awards are due to be allocated by the end of the year and barnstars are overdue. If you would like to manage this, please let us know. Indeed, if you are interested in coordinating NPR, it does not involve much time and the tasks are described here.

To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here. Sent to 827 users. 04:31, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

New WikiProject Proposal Alert

This is a note to let editors know that a user has proposed "WikiProject MotoGP". You can visit the proposal and discussion here. (Proposer was not me, I am just a guy alerting editors to the proposal.) Elijahandskip (talk) 21:22, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Motoe

Hi, I did not add in thing related to the pole position, I just added nowrap so that would be consistent with users on mobile devices, so I don't understand what I did wrong. If you would give me a better explanation I would be better for me, thanks Awesometd (talk) 16:13, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-38

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Growth features are now deployed to almost all Wikipedias. For the majority of small Wikipedias, the features are only available for experienced users, to test the features and configure them. Features will be available for newcomers starting on 20 September 2021.
  • MediaWiki had a feature that would highlight local links to short articles in a different style. Each user could pick the size at which "stubs" would be highlighted. This feature was very bad for performance, and following a consultation, has been removed. [32]
  • A technical change was made to the MonoBook skin to allow for easier maintenance and upkeep. This has resulted in some minor changes to HTML that make MonoBook's HTML consistent with other skins. Efforts have been made to minimize the impact on editors, but please ping Jon (WMF) on wiki or in phabricator if any problems are reported.

Problems

  • There was a problem with search last week. Many search requests did not work for 2 hours because of an accidental restart of the search servers. [33]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 September. It will be on all wikis from 23 September (calendar).
  • Advanced item The meta=proofreadpage API has changed. The piprop parameter has been renamed to prpiprop. API users should update their code to avoid unrecognized parameter warnings. Pywikibot users should upgrade to 6.6.0. [34]

Future changes

  • The Reply tool will be deployed to the remaining wikis in the coming weeks. It is currently part of "Discussion tools" in Beta features at most wikis. You will be able to turn it off in Editing Preferences. [35]
  • Advanced item The previously announced change to how you obtain tokens from the API has been delayed to September 21 because of an incompatibility with Pywikibot. Bot operators using Pywikibot can follow T291202 for progress on a fix, and should plan to upgrade to 6.6.1 when it is released.

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18:29, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello

Hi User:Engr. Smitty I am here to ask you a question if you are a filipino? kung oo pwede ba tayo mag usap nais ko lang makipag kaibigan dito sa Wikipedia i'm here in wikipedia in almost a year ago so parang passion ko talaga ang pag bibigay ng contribute and edit sa mga articles dito sa wikipedia lalong lalo na sa Basketball and Sports Industry. Flex On Me (talk) 10:58, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Marquez page edit

Look, Marquez collected 334 points in 2013, 362 in 2014, 242 in 2015, 298 in 2016, 298 in 2017, 321 in 2018, 420 in 2019, 0 in 2020 and now has 92 points. My edit was correct, do the math and you'll find out yourself that he collected a total of 2367 point in premier class so far. Tommaso Righi (talk) 14:28, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

The Signpost: 26 September 2021

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Tech News: 2021-39

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • iOS 15 has a new function called Private Relay (Apple website). This can hide the user's IP when they use Safari browser. This is like using a VPN in that we see another IP address instead. It is opt-in and only for those who pay extra for iCloud. It will come to Safari users on OSX later. There is a technical discussion about what this means for the Wikimedia wikis.

Problems

  • Advanced item Some gadgets and user-scripts add items to the portlets (article tools) part of the skin. A recent change to the HTML may have made those links a different font-size. This can be fixed by adding the CSS class .vector-menu-dropdown-noicon. [36]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 September. It will be on all wikis from 30 September (calendar).
  • The GettingStarted extension was built in 2013, and provides an onboarding process for new account holders in a few versions of Wikipedia. However, the recently developed Growth features provide a better onboarding experience. Since the vast majority of Wikipedias now have access to the Growth features, GettingStarted will be deactivated starting on 4 October. [37]
  • A small number of users will not be able to connect to the Wikimedia wikis after 30 September. This is because an old root certificate will no longer work. They will also have problems with many other websites. Users who have updated their software in the last five years are unlikely to have problems. Users in Europe, Africa and Asia are less likely to have immediate problems even if their software is too old. You can read more.
  • You can receive notifications when someone leaves a comment on user talk page or mentions you in a talk page comment. Clicking the notification link will now bring you to the comment and highlight it. Previously, doing so brought you to the top of the section that contained the comment. You can find more information in T282029.

Future changes

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22:20, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – October 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2021).

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

  • A motion has standardised the 500/30 (extended confirmed) restrictions placed by the Arbitration Committee. The standardised restriction is now listed in the Arbitration Committee's procedures.
  • Following the closure of the Iranian politics case, standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, post-1978 Iranian politics, broadly construed.
  • The Arbitration Committee encourages uninvolved administrators to use the discretionary sanctions procedure in topic areas where it is authorised to facilitate consensus in RfCs. This includes, but is not limited to, enforcing sectioned comments, word/diff limits and moratoriums on a particular topic from being brought in an RfC for up to a year.

Miscellaneous

  • Editors have approved expanding the trial of Growth Features from 2% of new accounts to 25%, and the share of newcomers getting mentorship from 2% to 5%. Experienced editors are invited to add themselves to the mentor list.
  • The community consultation phase of the 2021 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process is open for editors to provide comments and ask questions to candidates.
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:03, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

2021 Motorcycle Grand Prix of the Americas

I noticed you edited this page. In the race section you have included Jack Miller at number 7 and Joan Mir at number 8 even though Mir finished ahead of Miller. But you don't give any reason for this or reference. Was Mir pushed back one place because of a racing incident? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chami46 (talk • contribs) 06:34, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Chami46 First of all, I was not the one who added the race classification section. And yes, he was penalized for that incident (1 place penalty). Engr. Smitty Werben 07:14, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-40

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • A more efficient way of sending changes from Wikidata to Wikimedia wikis that show them has been enabled for the following 10 wikis: mediawiki.org, the Italian, Catalan, Hebrew and Vietnamese Wikipedias, French Wikisource, and English Wikivoygage, Wikibooks, Wiktionary and Wikinews. If you notice anything strange about how changes from Wikidata appear in recent changes or your watchlist on those wikis you can let the developers know.

Changes later this week

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Date formats

Hi, when changing the date format to mdy in Formula One articles, please note that you need to change the "date" parameter to "fulldate" in the Template:Infobox Grand Prix race report, this is because the "date" parameter puts the date in dmy format, regardless of the date format put in the field. Thanks, SSSB (talk) 09:44, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

@SSSB: Was it really the case? Because after my edit at 2019 United States Grand Prix, I could actually see "November 3, 2019" in the infobox, but after your edit, it became "November 3" only. I'm not sure what causes that in my browser. Engr. Smitty Werben 09:50, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
After your edit (and looking again at the permalink, Special:Permalink/1052059687) I saw/see "3 November 2019" in the infobox. As an aside, I re-added the year. SSSB (talk) 10:06, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

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Hi. The changes I made to the Moto3 page are official - they were confirmed by the team this morning, hence why I changed the page. They haven't issued a press release yet but the team manager announced it live on this morning's coverage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DenkMit (talk • contribs) 09:30, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

@DenkMit: I have re-added them after finding a news article. We still need news articles/press releases for verifiability. Also, for sports transactions, these are important to determine if the transaction is already official or not (see this essay). Nevertheless, I have found a news article and have subsequently re-added Tatay and Artigas. Thanks Simon. Engr. Smitty Werben 10:51, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

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"Ti'Quan Forbes" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Hello Engr.Smitty i think my edits is correct on Alex Crisano, Don Camaso and Rudy Hatfield they totally undrafted and if you don't believe this is the list

Undrafted players signed by PBA team

Please check the main article of 2000 PBA draft Nyanda Barasa (talk) 10:56, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Undrafted players signed by PBA team

Please check the main article of 2000 PBA draft Nyanda Barasa (talk) 10:56, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Pertamina Mandalika SAG Is From Spain

Hello, I just want to let you know that Pertamina Mandalika SAG Racing Team is from Spain not Indonesia Pertamina And Mandalika Racing is Just a Sponsor and Partner. Please Edit Back I Can'tI just want to let you know that Pertamina Mandalika SAG Racing Team is from Spain not Indonesia Pertamina And Mandalika Racing is Just a Sponsor and Partner. Please Edit Back I can't edit it 180.252.237.65 (talk) 14:45, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

F1 podiums

Hi, today I tried to correct something and I see you have undone this. I'm quite new here so I'm sure how things work.

I'll try to explain why I corrected the percentage podiums finishes on the F1 driver records wiki.

The source cited is: statsf1.com. When I look for percentage podiums I see that besides Serafini also George Amick has a 1 in 1 (100%) podium ratio by competing in 1 Indy-500 during the years they counted as F1 GP. Since other Indy drivers from that era made it into the top-10 Amick needs to be included. To make the statistics more sensible (and as a bonus eliminate most Indy drivers) I set the minimum races to 5 entries. This was arbritary and just as easily I could have chosen for a minimum of 15 entries. There is a precedent by the percentage of point scores which is already in place on the same wiki. The reasons I chose minimum 5 entries is that it's more difficult to finish on an podium than to finish in the points. Also I hated to see Fagioli gone ;-)

I'm looking forward to your reply and maybe you'll consider reversing your reversal of my adaptations.

Best greetings!

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Query

Why have you removed the non-breaking spaces?--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 02:19, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Rocknrollmancer It's the 500cc championship, not 500 cc. If there is a guideline that says there is a space, I'd be happy to restore the spaces myself. Engr. Smitty Werben 02:21, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
This is a standard Wikipedia format for linewrapping AFAIK. I'll ask at the Motorcycle Project for clarity, rather than the Village Pump Technical - I think that's better venue, marginally.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 02:32, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Rocknrollmancer It won't line break because everything is connected (the 500, the cc, the slash, and the MotoGP). I connected them both to become "500cc", not just remove the non-breaking spaces and left it at "500 cc", so there shouldn't be any line breaks to worry about. 02:40, 18 November 2021 (UTC)Engr. Smitty Werben
To put it another way, my belief is that it is standard WP house style, and has been for several years that I have been doing it. Having established that, it would be strange for an individual to rail against it, IMO. Anyway, it needs an outside opinion.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 02:52, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Re:Number column

Hi, I am afraid I can't find a discussion; I have re-checked and found that numbers were removed by the well-experienced user:Cs-wolves back in July 2016 as being 'insignificant to the season'. As usual, it is impossible to communicate with those unstoppable disruptive Indonesian IPs and users, who will keep messing up with anything they wish (one day it's <sup>*</sup> vs {{asterisk}}, another day it's Present vs present, another day it's the numbers, ...). –Gpmat (talk) 09:04, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks to Gpmat for the alert. I had removed the numbers boldly way back (more than five years ago as linked), as the majority of World Championship riders ride with the same number throughout their career. At that time if I remember correctly, it was a UK-based IP that was introducing these numbers, but this just seemed to be unnecessary trivia. If we utilise the examples of Formula One drivers (post-2014 with the permanent driver numbers), none of the drivers have their car numbers in the racing summary sections. Hope this helps. Craig(talk) 20:12, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

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You have been removing top tags which were placed by myself to encourage others to leave where possible in the future more references. Perhaps you have mistakenly arrived at another conclusion?

Your edit summaries don't make sense to me; please engage at the relative Talk pages to explain why you think these minor race results satisfy notability (Talk:Jason Dupasquier and Talk:Dean Berta Viñales).

There are almost no published sources to support that these deceased riders were notable-enough to write about - just two of hundreds of schoolboy racers encouraged by the Spanish and Italian race industries.

Wikipedia has to maintain standards and it appears you wish to rail against these. Thank you.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 01:20, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

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Category:20th-century African-American people

I saw that you added Category:20th-century African-American people to several pages that already are contained in Category:20th-century African-American women, which is a subcategory of the former. To me, this seems to be an error, but since you have much more experience than I have, I'm a little in doubt. One example is Louisa Matilda Jacobs. Courage ! --Rsk6400 (talk) 14:41, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Rsk6400 The women category is considered a non-diffusing subcategory of the people category and it is accepted to included both categories in an article, per what was said in the guideline I linked. WP:DUPCAT states that Subcategories defined by gender, ethnicity, religion, and sexuality should almost always be non-diffusing subcategories and there is no need to take pages out of the parent category purely because of their membership of a non-diffusing subcategory. Hope that clear things up. Engr. Smitty Werben 14:55, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, I learned something new, and although I'm approaching my 60th birthday, I still like to learn. --Rsk6400 (talk) 15:51, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

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Hector Garzo

Hey, I added sources and references to Garzo, can you check if its okay? I don't want to delete the pinned warnings again, I wanted to wait until I did these sources today, but I may have accidentally deleted it yesterday, apologies again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrSplashman77 (talk • contribs) 12:10, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

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Defaultsort

Why are you removing DEFAULTSORT from pages? If the DEFAULTSORT coincides with the article title, it shows that an editor has considered the case and decided that this is not a standard western-style "Forename Surname" name but it sorts differently. This is useful information and will make it less likely that a later editor will "helpfully" add a wrong sort key on the false assumption that the second/last component is a western-style surname.

Unless you have some reason I have overlooked, please stop this action and revert your removals, which are not helpful to the encyclopedia. Ko Ko Maung was on my watch list, but I see you have done this to many other articles. PamD 08:16, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

PamD Template:DEFAULTSORT states that It is not necessary to use DEFAULTSORT at all if the article or page should be alphabetized according to its title (which is true for most articles). WP:DEFAULTSORT also states that It is possible to set a default sort key which is different from {{PAGENAME}} by using the magic word {{DEFAULTSORT}}: which could be interpreted that the only purpose of the DEFSORT template is to change the default sorting method. If an editor "helpfully" adds a wrong sort key, then it just shows that they haven't read the wiki guidelines. Also, there is already a note at the top of the page that says that "there is no family name" so if someone adds a defsort template, then it's obvious that that editor doesn't read the article or the guidelines.
I don't understand why am I unhelpful. Unhelpful to who? Incompetent editors? Adding a defaultsort isn't even shown in the output. It is like a cosmetic edit after all. Also, there are many, many, many, many biographical articles that do not use DEFSORT template. What should we do with that? Find every single one and add a DEFSORT template that is just the same with the article?
Categories that include names with eastern style naming order (Burmese, Malaysian, Cambodian, etc.) are on my watchlist and if anyone who "helpfully" adds a defsort template to an article, I or a more experienced editor could inform the editor the proper way. Engr. Smitty Werben 08:29, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Also, don' tell me that I'm being unhelpful because in fact, I was very helpful by correcting a huge number of articles with wrong sortation keys. If you check the Burmese, Cambodian, Filipino, and other nationality categories, they are now sorted in the correct order and correct way. Engr. Smitty Werben 08:36, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

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Nationality

I didn't remove Yao Ming's nationality as place of birth isn't given. So his nationality isn't clear for an infobox. I removed Peter June Simon nationality as place of birth is given. WP:INFONAT says "Generally, use of either should be avoided when the country to which the subject belongs can be inferred from the country of birth" from that, in these two cases, it's clear to me which to leave and which to remove, as it's either a duplication of info or not. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Infoboxes covers all infoboxes. Sciencefish (talk) 14:47, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

@Sciencefish: It clearly says "Shanghai, China" at Yao Ming's article. Right below the "place of birth" line is the "nationality" line (which says Chinese). It would be a lot of work in implementing INFONAT as it has been a long-term practice on adding the nationality parameter in basketball biographies. I ping Bagumba for their thoughts. Engr. Smitty Werben 14:55, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
I'm not entirely clear on the background of this thread. However, you're both invited to discuss at the recent thread Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Basketball#WP:INFONAT. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 15:11, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

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BdotAdot redirect to Brandon Armstrong

Hi. There is a redirect of BdotAdot to Brandon Armstrong created by yourself. The problem is, that Brandon Armstrong (born 1980) is not the right person and is therefore misleading. BdotAdot is actually Brandon Armstrong (born 1990) [56] [57], who doesn't have a Wikipedia page. Based on this info I have noted, would you consider self-nominating the redirect for deletion? WP:G7 might apply here. Thanks. DaHuzyBru (talk) 02:57, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. DaHuzyBru (talk) 04:28, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
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