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I am requesting the IP block exempt flag, I am currently on business working in airports and hotels, and would like to use my VPN (Torguard) which is blocked as an open proxy. Gaijin42 (talk) 17:56, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks for this, but please note that the following paragraph says, "After the officers reach the car, the video shows DuBose inside with an apparent gunshot wound to his head. The county coroner's preliminary autopsy results, released on July 31, confirmed that as the cause of death." Doesn't this make the "hitting him in the head" redundant and unnecessary? 68.97.47.26 (talk) 18:23, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Cecil

The way the RfC is worded if it ends in no consensus (a real possibility) the default action will be "do not restore". If it was worded "should this section be removed" -- which is more accurate since it was in place for a while and removed only today -- then no consensus will be for keeping it. I'll leave a comment and if it closes that way we will have some recourse with the closing admin, you may want to leave an "update" note to that effect as well. -- GreenC 22:08, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Green Cardamom I agree, but since the article was protected with the section gone, I couldn't think of a way to word the RFC appropriately. Gaijin42 (talk) 22:16, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

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I read this article on the LA Times this morning [1] and reminded me of some of the discussions here in WP. :) - Cwobeel (talk) 15:52, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Cwobeel yes, a good article. I was thinking it might make a good counterpoint to the NYT editorial on the beradino shooting. Gaijin42 (talk) 21:27, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
The pit-bull analogy, got me thinking. I am for more gun regulation (as you probably know by now) but I am guilty of same sins are expressed in that article. I am very familiar with guns, from Berettas to M-4s, M16 to M2 Brownings, to mortars and more but not familiar enough with the nomenclature used in debates about guns in the US of A. - Cwobeel (talk) 21:40, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

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Hi. I did not edited the Bernie Sanders article, but the talk page. I am not interested at all in the US political topics, but an editor, Winkelvi, made a mistake writing my nick instead yours, so I modified his message accordingly. You can check the change here --Gaijin (talk) 21:43, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

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Scjessey Moving conversation here so we don't spam Wikidemon anymore.

You keep saying things like "Scjessey doesn't like it" but that's not it at all. I only take a stand on material I think is particularly egregious, either because of what it says or how it says it. The two of us worked together to refine the "hacking" section in the HRC email controversy article that seemed to satisfy us both, but despite that I now find that you are using it as an example of my "pattern" of poor behavior. Can you see why I am feeling somewhat aggrieved? -- Scjessey (talk) 11:28 am, Today (UTC−5)

Yes, we eventually worked well together to refine the hacking section. You may note in my AE comment I said Once one hammers through his reflexive Clinton protection, he does a good job of raising legitimate concerns and working on collaborative compromise to include information while addressing neutrality etc. If he could start at step 2 rather than an immediate revert every time, it would solve 99% of the issue.

Prior to that working well, you reverted out all that information, and argued adamantly that it should not be included. Off the top of my head that same pattern has been for the security log comments, the comments by various intelligence individuals on the likelihood of hacking, and on the statements in the lead (or mirrored summary sections) mentioning that the emails ultimately did contain information that was deemed classified. Every single one took a huge battle to even get mentioned.

Did the information require copyediting, and perhaps additional balancing statements? Sure. Was any of them "egregious" enough to be reverted out multiple times with policy violation claims? I don't think so. This thread you started at Wasted Time's talk page is what I mean https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wasted_Time_R&diff=prev&oldid=702773757 - You repeatedly argued that exceptionally well sourced info that has been in the news for months was BLP violation. You asked for outside sanity-check input (which I greatly respect btw), and then dropped the issue. That it took that much to get you to see it wasn't a blp violation is where the disruption is.

Ill be perfectly honest, I enjoy working with you once we get to the actual collaboration part. Its fun to engage with those who come from a different POV to find something mutually acceptable and build this great encyclopedia. But focus more on the "lets improve this" a bit earlier in the process please. Gaijin42 (talk) 16:46, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

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Clinton emails

This edit removes well known information. The material on the thumb drive given to her lawyer came from the server. The email program on the BlackBerry connected to the server and maintained files there. That the material in question was "on" the server in the sense that it was stored in the files of the email program there is not at issue. User:Fred Bauder Talk 17:06, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Fred Bauder I think you misinterpreted my objection to your edit. I agree that the information was definitely on the server at that point. My objection is that your edit said that the information was not marked/deemed as classified at the time it was on the server. Thats true for the time they originally made it to the server. I'm not sure its true after that point. I think its WP:OR to say that all the information was removed from the server prior to the emails being deemed classified. "When they were on the server" is not a single point in time, but a range, and that range potentially includes right now. Gaijin42 (talk) 17:16, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
The FOIA request to the State Department did not return these email because the State Department was unaware of them. It was after the federal court ordered that they be turned over to the State Department and released that State Department had an opportunity to check them for information potentially damaging to the United States and classify them. There are good sources for the foregoing. User:Fred Bauder Talk 17:55, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
After Clinton gave up physical custody, and later control, of the server, what is on them would not have been changed by her. The FBI has it now and there has been no leak about their luck with it. The relevant time period is while she was using it or storing emails on it. User:Fred Bauder Talk 17:59, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Fred Bauder I agree with all of the above. I don't think your edit was a good summary of the above though. "not marked classified at the time sent/recieved" is 100% true. getting into "at the time they were on her server" requires a bunch of caveats,about custody, or when things were deemed/marked, like the ones you made above, which is too much detail for too little additional value. Gaijin42 (talk) 18:43, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

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Editorializing like that does not go in the article. You can discuss it on the talk page of the article though. Gaijin42 (talk) 00:12, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

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Sourced?

You claim that this diff -- which contains an apparant AP quote negative towards Clinton's tenure as SoS -- is sourced. Please point out to me where exactly that source is, within the provided diff -- for some odd reason, I can't seem to be seeing this source you speak of, that should be there (especially considering Hillary is a living person and any negative content pertaining to her reputation ought to be well-sourced and neutral). Regards, —MelbourneStar☆talk 18:15, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

MelbourneStar First of, apologies, I did not scroll down far enough in your revert to see the AP quote. I was referring more to the refs in the Blackberry section, which you also reverted, and which had multiple sources. If you objected to the AP portion, you should have removed just that portion though. However, the AP quote is currently sourced to ref #57 (which is used to source the exact same quote elsewhere in the article. The duplication is dumb tho!) Gaijin42 (talk) 19:35, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for correcting said edit/s. I'll leave the other content to be disputed by other editors, should they wish to. Best, —MelbourneStar☆talk 04:29, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

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Granny (orca)

I removed the section as inappropriate, and it still is. A summary is one thing; if the section is directly tied in. That is not the case here. Granny is not mentioned at all. Far better would be to include an inline link further up the article regarding Orca lifespans. This section needs to be removed. --Hammersoft (talk) 19:14, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Hammersoft the section you link to in the other article directly mentions Granny. The background information of how long Orca live is directly relevant to the Granny article, whose notability is because of her lifespan. This is a clear case of WP:SUMMARY Gaijin42 (talk) 20:21, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Then why not include all the data about Orca? the section as it is in Granny isn't even connected to her. Describe it in context and you might have something. Random addition of related content with no connection is hardly illuminating. --Hammersoft (talk) 00:59, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
Hammersoft I disagree that it isn't connected. The entire article is about Granny's lifespan. Therefore information about what the average lifespan is is directly relevant to the overall granny article. Gaijin42 (talk) 15:20, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

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Miniapolis Per Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gun_control#Gun_control_.28Gaijin42.29:_Arbitrator_views_and_discussion my topic ban has now expired. Would you update Wikipedia:Editing_restrictions for me? Thanks. Gaijin42 (talk) 16:34, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

  • Well well Gaijin, look at that... How does it feel? Take care, Drmies (talk) 18:05, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
Done. All the best, Miniapolis 18:53, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

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