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Seats and Vote Share in Opinion Polls for Next Spanish Election

Hey, the new design that puts the the estimated seats below the percentage in one field isn't really helpful for two reasons: 1) It's impossible to sort. 2) Following the trend isn't as easy as it used to be. This is what you see if you want to follow PP vote since December: 33.9 151/153 35.9 34.7 144 34.1 154/159 36.9 34.5 139 33 34.8 134 32.1

The previous design, the one showing both data in side by side columns, didn't have the sorting problem but made comparing parties in the same poll a bit harder. I don't think having two separate tables was such a bad idea. Sohailjan (talk) 14:39, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

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Edits to Spanish election articles

Hey, Impru20! First of all, congratulations for your work; I know it's a lot of time and effort and I believe it's worth it.

Obviously, my intention isn't to hamper or disturb your work, so I'm glad you told me where I can go wrong. I only want to help where I fairly can, and sometimes I added some things to some articles to see if they fitted, but never with an aim to impose my way of doing or editing.

To start with, I'm going to stop uploading images, or at least the most controversial ones. If I can help with some articles, I'll be pleased, but also knowing that I too have little and scattered time.

Sorry for the inconveniences and good work! :) Cheers! --Togiad (talk) 22:56, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Candidato "alternativo" en Podemos

Muy buenas, Impru. En el artículo 2nd Podemos Citizen Assembly comentas que únicamente Pablo Iglesias se ha presentado como candidato a liderar Podemos y, sin embargo, en los medios ha aparecido un candidato alternativo (Juan Moreno Yagüe) que si bien sabemos que apenas tiene posibilidades, igual sería necesario mentarlo. Nada más, como siempre, agradeciendo mucho tu aportación en los artículos electorales y de encuestas. Un saludo. Asturkian (talk) 19:03, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Missing Spanish Prime minsters

You stated you used http://boe.es/ as a source for the list of PM under Franco Spain. However I find that source to be wrong with various errors in it.

Fidel Dávila Arrondo was Chairman of the Technical Board of the State (Prime Minster) from 3 October 1936 – 3 June 1937

Francisco Gómez-Jordana Sousa was Chairman of the Technical Board of the State (Prime Minster) from June 3 of 1937 - January 30 of 1938

On the page it states Franco became Prime Minster on 30 September 1936, however on Franco's on wiki page it states he became Prime Minster on 30 January 1938. I think we need a new source for the Franco era Spanish PM's if that's the source. There are to many conflicts and several different sources don't match the wiki page. AHC300 (talk) 11:46, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

En Marche! template colour

I've left a message at Template talk:En Marche!/meta/color that you might be interested in. Katya2017 (talk) 00:37, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Encuestas regionales para las próximas elecciones

Hola, soy el usuario anónimo que ha editado el artículo de "Regional opinion polling for the next Spanish General Election" hoy varias veces, completando la información que faltaba. Quería saber el porqué de cambiar el formato de esa sección y si tendría su permiso (para organizarnos, me refiero) para volver a editar la página y establecer las comunidades que faltan (Comunidad Valenciana y Navarra) con el nuevo formato que ha incorporado (que por lo que veo es el mismo con el que cuenta el artículo "Opinion polling for the next Spanish General Election"). Un saludo. 5.34.154.217 (talk) 21:03, 24 February 2017 (UTC) Edito: Siga así, está haciendo un trabajo inigualable en Wikipedia en términos de política española (e internacional). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.34.154.217 (talk) 21:08, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Results breakdown of the European Parliament election in Spain, 1987

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Disruptive IP

The IP you reverted a couple of times (so did I) has just been blocked at es.wiki for doing the same thing. Gracias por estar atento, --Maragm (talk) 17:14, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Corsaris Democràtics

The correct name for the party is Corsaris Democràtics (Democratic Corsairs in English). [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] There may be an error in the Ministry of the Interior page. In Argos the name is the right one.

Comment

Don't worry, I didn't think you were rude. I understand the amount of work you have, and I'm sorry to increase it. Anyway, it's OK if you tell me to stop editing some pages, as it's not my intention to bother you more than I already do. I sometimes make some testings in some pages, so if you think they're not right, just tell me. Thanks for everything and my apologies.--Togiad (talk) 17:54, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

RfC on the type of treemap

Hello Impru20. There is a discussion going on about using which type of treemap for 2016 United States presidential election in each state articles. Please join the discussion, so the dispute can be resolved. Thank you. Ali 03:43, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

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Actualización de las gráficas

Buenas tardes, Impru. Me dirigía a usted con la única intención de sugerirle que quizá se deberían ir actualizando las gráficas de evolución de intención de voto para las próximas elecciones en España, Italia y especialmente Grecia, cuyo artículo se encontraba completamente desactualizado hasta que añadí las últimas encuestas que publicó Electograph. Un cordial saludo y siento las molestias (concretamente, la edición del artículo de España de hace unas horas). 5.34.154.217 (talk) 13:33, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Mélenchon second-place color

A poll was just released placing Mélenchon in second place (awaiting the publication of a notice from the polling commission) – could you please generate a hex color code for second-place Mélenchon? Thanks! Mélencron (talk) 18:22, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Gilles Duceppe

Quite right, thanks for the correction. I was flipping back and forth between the 2011 and 2015 elections and got confused. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 04:19, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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Alliance

Just wanted to apologise for my last edit on United Kingdom general elections, 2017. I realised that the ordering of the tables had changed from when I last looked from alphabetical to seat numbers. We must have both attempted to make the same edit moving alliance down to the bottom of the table at the same time. That my edit appeared to be revert of your changing the width parameter was completely accidental - sorry. Ebonelm (talk) 12:45, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Updating the Italian polls?

I've noticed the opinion polling graph on the Next Italian Election graph has not been updated for 4 months, was just wondering whats going on with that. WolvesS (talk) 03:50, 30 April 2017 (UTC) WolvesS

Infobox election fixes

I'm so sorry you've had to fix several of my infobox edits and just wanted you to know that I appreciate it. I'm going back through my last run now and making my own corrections, thanks.— TAnthonyTalk 14:36, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Next Italian election graph

Hi Impru20! Excuse me, could you update the graph regarding the Next Italian general election, whose last update dates back to December? Thank you so much! -- Nick.mon (talk) 09:28, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Latest polls

@Impru20: I see you updated for ICM. Great! According to ukpollingreport.co.uk there are also new polls from Panelbase and Kantar Public, with final Ines also due from YouGov and Survation. I am unable to update for these as only have mobile at the mo. Boscaswell talk 20:57, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

France

Hi Stop now, I haven't violated 3RR. Saying that is a lie. But you and another user have edited the article without consensus. For the rest;A contributor involved in an editing war can not shout at the (fake) violation of the 3RR. --Panam2014 (talk) 12:49, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

If you revert me again, you will violate the 3RR. Also, Baroin didn't run for the election. --Panam2014 (talk) 12:59, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

June 2017

Talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at User talk:Panam2014, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Just to let you know I have reverted your reversion. Per WP:BLANKING, an editor is allowed to remove (almost) anyting from their page, and to revert them on their own talk is somewhat frowned upon  :) I note from your edit summary that you are concerned that the other party will 'pretend' they have not seen it; rest assured, that the act of removing a notice is taken to implicitly mean that they have read it before removing. It is then not possible for them to claim ignorance in any defence. The same, conversely, of course applies to you too. FYI. Cheers, — O Fortuna semper crescis, aut decrescis 13:44, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Question.

Uh... is it alright if I ask you a question bello? Dinah Kirkland (talk) 13:54, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Cite error message: Andalusian regional election, 1990

I note you have undone my work to improve the layout of Andalusian regional election, 1990, but would you please at least deal with the red Cite Error message that now appears at the bottom of the page: Noyster (talk), 14:13, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Noyster It was dealt with about one hour and a half ago. The revert was done precisely to re-format the page and add the group="p" refs in a separate section, which was done immediately afterwards. Impru20 (talk) 14:20, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Menorca

The English spelling for Menorca is Menorca. If those are recent history WP:CONSISTENCY would require using the modern English name not the British colonial name. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:04, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

I rather think all these "Minorca" names are invented anyway. This is more typical: Secessionism: Identity, Interest, and Strategy. Reliable modern English sources appear to give the names of those parties in Spanish or Catalan. There isn't an invented English translation, and if there is it would be with Menorca, the modern English name as newspapers. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:10, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Could you please return Santo Tomás, Minorca back to Santo Tomás, Menorca where it was. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:57, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Hi, as you'll see the RM has been closed a second time, again toward modern BBC etc "Menorca". I hope that you will regard British people spelling the island per Catalan/Spanish spelling not Italian spelling as something you can live with. I hope that if you think on it the BBC and so on abandoning the old spelling is something English languages and writers have the right to do so, just as Iberian Spanish has in modern years dropped some of the old traditional Spanish-language exonyms for various French, German and British cities in favour of the French, German and English spellings. Best wishes, sincerely. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:01, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Comment

Regarding this Don't you think it would be way better putting as founders the full "7 magníficos"? Cheers--Asqueladd (talk) 22:58, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

ANC

Hi! The ANC did not actually call for bringing estelades, here is their official statement on the demonstration. Unfortunately, El Pais's coverage of the attacks has been notoriously biased. Thanks a lot, --Townie (talk) 15:19, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

In the statement, they mention that if you want to bring such flag, people should do that; in no way is it a call to bring estelades. Actually, even ANC's president said that the claim was false. --Townie (talk) 15:45, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
In their official statement, they did not encourage bringing flags, note that the proposition begins with an if.
Since Jordi Sànchez called for people to bring flags (he did not specify which ones, estelades or senyeres - or even rojigualdas ;) -, so we should stick to the generic "flags") with the black ribbon, a possible way to phrase the sentence could be "[...], and Jordi Sànchez, president of the ANC, called for bringing flags with a black ribbon. Signs accusing the Head of State of trafficking with weapons were also present." In the interest of balance, I believe we should also add that anti-independence groups gave out Spanish flags for free in the demonstrations. --Townie (talk) 16:47, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

una tassa de cafè

Gràcies. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:13, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Regional elections

Aren't they every four years? If so, you could put 2019 rather than next? Number 57 18:16, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Election days of the week

You should check for "was held on 8 May 1983" in order to keep the same style throughout the article.2605:E000:9161:A500:3832:5234:5BA4:7DB6 (talk) 19:10, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Next United Kingdom general election

Hello,

Just wondering why you removed the other three leaders from the Next United Kingdom general election page? It seems strange to have Sinn Fein and the DUP but not Plaid Cymru, UKIP and the Greens. Sinn Fein do not even take their seats so they have very little influence over Westminster politics.

Thanks - goesbyanyothername

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Catalan self-determination referendum, 2014: Non-binding (but nevertheless legal), or null and void (and illegal)?

I am sorry that Wikipedia has messed up with my explanation...I think, a "non-binding (consultative) referendum" in the English language and in the English-speaking World generally means a referendum held or conducted with lawful basis and authority (but the results of the said referendum would NOT automatically authorize the Government, or the executive branch of the government, the power or the authority to directly or in effect (indirect) change some law or laws made by Parliament, Congress or the legislature) (see the Scottish example in the example of the United Kingdom [7]); whereas an "unofficial referendum" generally or usually refers to an illegal referendum conducted without lawful basis or authority, and its results is legally-speaking null and void...possibly a case of lost in translation (the different meaning of terms (including and perhaps especially political terms) in different languages), methinks! Thank you, or Gracias! -- 87.102.116.36 (talk) 01:33, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Tienes razón

Hola, perdona por no haberme fijado. Era tanto vandalismo que no me di ni cuenta de que la página está ordenada por el tiempo en el que duraron las declaraciones de independencia. Tienes razón, lo has dejado perfecto.

Saludos! --TechnicianGB (talk) 20:38, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Edit at Catalan independence referendum, 2017

Hello Impru, We had a very hard debate at Talk:Catalan_independence_referendum,_2017#Level of detail on the lead and it seems like we might be finally reaching an agreement (pending Iñaki's response). The referendum and the law of the referendum are separate both suspended by the Constitutional Court and the law also annulled. if we add aditional information to the lead about the law we would also have to include that it was suspended and annulled and that it failed to meet the 2/3 majority required by the "Estatuto de Autonomía de Cataluña". That would be too much for a lead that we want to shorten. In this version it is explained with a lot more detail, but we agreed to shorten it. The referendum itself was organized by the Generalitat and the law however was approved by the Parliament. I hope this version can be acceptable to you so we can finally put the debate to rest. Regards. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 17:51, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

¿Lo qué?

I don't understand what you mean here. ?? --Discasto (talk) 23:14, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Carles Puigdemont

I am very sorry to inadvertently revert your edit. But he is still, officially, in post yes? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:06, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

I'm really sorry ...

... how badly I focused the discussion. I really appreciate the work you are doing because you are giving the necessary neutrality to the pages. I would like to leave this aside because I think there were many misunderstandings between us. The written language is not easy, many important nuances are lost and besides I am not native speaker of English, which complicates my communication. Also, most of the time I tried to edit the talk page there was an editing conflict. I think I should have waited to your answers and to dialogue with you...

I have already seen this edit, is a very positive step. Thank you very much!

I do not edit in these subjects but I started in this one for the reasons that I explained here. This is very worrying, a small sample of what is happening.

I hope we can continue to collaborate positively.

Best regards. --BallenaBlanca (Talk) 10:04, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Greek opinion polls update please

{{subst:update-note|1=File:Opinion Polling Greece General Elections 2019.png}} Nuke (talk) 02:09, 23 October 2017 (UTC) Er, that template on the file page didn't work, so can you please update ? Nuke (talk) 02:11, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Catalan Republic recognition

Hi! Here is a statement of the MFA Gambia on their Twitter, saying that they are recognising the state. Should that be added to the article or is Twitter not enough? Sincerely, Lingveno (talk) 20:30, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

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Catalan Republic

Hi It is not a state. There are only a declaration, and not an army, a parliament, a president. --Panam2014 (talk) 15:53, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Flag of Catalonia

Buenas, Impru. Te escribo en castellano porque me suena que eres de aquí.

A ver, no sé cómo proponer un cambio en la página de desambiguación pero entrando en el terreno de la opinión personal me parece de mal gusto que en la página Flag of Catalonia se trate por igual a la senyera, que es la bandera oficial de Catalunya en cualquiera de sus estátus, y a la estelada que no es más que la bandera de un movimiento. No sé si estás al tanto de esto que te comento, si se ha discutido ya o cualquier otra cosa pero bueno, creo que tenía que comentarlo. Un saludo y gran trabajo el que haces en todo este berenjenal. Asturkian (talk) 17:07, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Catalan regional election, 2017

If Spain fails to takeover Catalonia, this election may not be hold. Sharouser (talk) 18:24, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Catalan Republic does not exist or has been dissolved

Hi @Impru20: Mossosare with Rajoy government so the Republic has been destablished. --Panam2014 (talk) 17:56, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

@Panam2014: I don't think it is as simple as that, as controlling the Mossos does not mean the independence declaration is nullified. It is said the Constitutional Court may suspend the declaration within days, so I think we could consider such a suspension as the official end of the Republic. Impru20 (talk) 18:00, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
But Puigdemont refuge in Gerona and have no military force. They also called to resist peacefully. And if the council of ministers of Puigdemont is not prevented but canceled? --Panam2014 (talk) 18:01, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
Do not anticipate events. When sources unambiguously proclaim independence as over, we shall report on it. The political situation in Catalonia right now is somewhat chaotic, yet the cover of weekend (with the public administration closed) prevents us from seeing the full extent of the so-called "legality-clash". We do not have enough info as of now to declare independence is either over or effective. Impru20 (talk) 18:06, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
But have you got a source saying that the Catalan Republic acted as state during three days ? --Panam2014 (talk) 16:04, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

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¡bien hecho!
¡bien hecho!

For all your calm and measured efforts at Catalan Republic (2017) and at 2017 Spanish constitutional crisis.

And for clearly explaining at the relevant talk pages. !

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Huge lists in sentences

But then someone has to read the 100-item list before knowing what they're reading. Every sane reader will glance at the end of the sentence rather than reading that list, which means it's poorly written.

But thanks for the insta-revert. I was clearly trying to break Wikipedia and you thwarted me. Great floors (talk) 22:15, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Catalan Republic (2017)

Hi we have no source for government in exile. --Panam2014 (talk) 19:41, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Panam2014 Please, I'm about to reply in Talk:Catalan Republic (2017). I've not been able to reply until now, but leave this confined to the proper talk page. I mostly agree with you, though. Impru20 (talk) 19:45, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Why do you keep placing 2017, in the infobox next to the Catalan president's name? GoodDay (talk) 15:30, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Tense

Catalunya has still not surrender the idea of being self-Independent. Because of this it is still a proclaim state. Just because it has been taken over by Spain doesn't mean it isn't still proclaimed Yessy1205 (talk) 22:18, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Catalan Republic

Hi We should create a map with light green because the republic controlled any territory, only claimed it. --Panam2014 (talk) 23:03, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Catalan republic

Hi According to the former president of Catalan Parliament, the republic has never been proclamed, but it was only a symbolic resolution and a proposal. We should merge the article with Declaration of Independence of Catalonia. --Panam2014 (talk) 20:38, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Secondary sources

Hi A young contributor does not know that primary sources (WP: PRIMARY) are not eligible to know which person holds a political office. The only admissible sources are secondary sources (WP: SECONDARY) whose purpose is to report facts. Could you give him a reminder?--Panam2014 (talk) 18:54, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

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[8][9] Regards.--Asqueladd (talk) 07:42, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

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People's Party

I'm here to discuss why you think the party should be labelled primarily as liberal conservative. There are far more citations to support the party being conservative. Also it is common knowledge from browsing political party pages that the party's primary ideology is placed first on its ideology list. Also the party is labelled as conservative in the introduction on its page, not liberal conservative. While liberal conservatism obviously shares elements of conservatism these are two different ideologies. If you were to do any sort of polling on whether people view the party as conservative or liberal conservative I guarantee many more will see it as simply conservative (both academically and in terms of the Spanish general public), and as mentioned there are many more citations provided on the party's page to support that it is conservative than liberal conservative. Helper201 (talk) 19:00, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Immediate revert

Hi Impru20, please don't immediately revert small changes like the one I first applied. I guarantee you the table did not look straight on all platforms ;) Abjiklam (talk) 14:03, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

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