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Ok back to your query at my talk - I would say that the effectiveness of the separating the watch list into sections is not effective over 15k on the list - my watchlist being much larger it has no positive aspect at all - but it does do the task - and doesnt take long... JarrahTree 10:02, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Makes sense. Thanks.
Vaguely related, I increased my watchlist to 15K yesterday, by adding all the scripts in user space that weren't named "common.js, or that didn't have a skin name, or "twinkle", in them. (That's about 8K). I learned that there's only a couple people active writing scripts. What an anti-climax. Unless users are writing scripts directly in their common.js or vector.js pages. Or offline. How common is that? The Transhumanist 10:16, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Transhumanist: Watchlist size - I have been close to 50k for ages, and it really is ineffective, as only a small %age ever gets attention - I think about 20k is best size - but it will take ages to manually manipulate the larger one -it doesnt want changes of any substance during the reduction editing... and refuses to operate on big edits...catch 22 and all JarrahTree 10:23, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You mean, once you hit a certain size, you're stuck? That's a hell of a bug. What about editing the raw watchlist? It accepts additions of thousands of links at a time (I just added 8,000). To remove stuff, can't you just cut and paste the whole thing into an editor and then cut and paste it back in when you are done? The Transhumanist 06:56, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Transhumanist: not the times that I have tried - once every 3 or 4 years or so I try, but...
nah there is not much to do with 10ks of ip numbers or categories... slow to edit out, fast to gain :( JarrahTree 08:22, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Constraint violations can now be checked on qualifiers and references (phab:T168532)
Implemented usage tracking deduplication to reduce database load (phab:T178079). This should not have any effect on what users see on recent changes and watchlists.
Redirects on client wikis that are connected to a Wikidata item can have a tracking category, if set up (phab:T185743). Thanks, Matěj!
It's rather obtuse of me, but while I know there are technical things one should do, I can't lift myself to do them, trusting in the whitefellah trackers keeping an eye on the spoors of errancy as I trek across the indigenous landscape. By the way, everytime I start a page with the pat line '..are/were an indigenous Australian people of..' or write 'according to Norman Tindale' (attribution that is obligatory since much of the mapping and the territorial conceit behind it is questioned), I have an image of myself as Jack Nicholson in The Shining, bashing away on the typewriter infinite repetitions of 'All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy'. :) Nishidani (talk) 11:45, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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In the article Juru people that you reverted you left some copy-writing issues, there's a title "Alternative names=" that is not well formed. also are you happy with "In Norman Tindale estimate"?? Damiantgordon (talk) 15:17, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
IMHO best trying the man himself - try User:Nishidani - he might even correct the combination of my revert and your edit JarrahTree 15:24, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I might as well just tidy up the non-controversial elements myself. Damiantgordon (talk) 15:25, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In this article, one of the headings is "Native title", does that break the usage of the "native" ban also? Damiantgordon (talk) 15:29, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That's what it's called downunder. Thanks for the copyediting.Nishidani (talk) 16:59, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent, thanks Nishidani, but the owner of this page JarrahTree said "Please note that we do not use native in the Australian project", that's the only reason I ask. Damiantgordon (talk) 20:08, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Jarrah is, no brownschnozzing intended, a very experienced hand in this, and his point reflects the known distinction between the substantive native (a put-down) and the adjective native, which, in English, is perfectly neutral, indeed has a positive resonance, e.g. we speak of the insights derived from an etic perspective as 'native knowledge' without connoting that we are dealing with savages' fantasies. Or one can remark on someone having a 'native command of English' (et al.,) without implying he is a pernickety jungle or desert sandnigger upstart. Much of the grog I quaff comes from vines 'native to Italy', one of the most civilized, if not the most civilized, countries on earth. But if you say 'the natives are getting restless', the colonial sahib hauteur murmuring behind the phrase is self-evidentNishidani (talk) 20:22, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much, this is absolutely fascinating, here in Ireland because we have some post-colonial border issues still going on 100 years later, we sometimes use the term "native land" as a 'fudge' where it's a polite way of talking about the country without specifying whether we mean the whole island of Ireland, or just the Republic of Ireland (the "south") so as not to offend anyone, so it's considered vague enough that everyone will interpret it in a way that is least offensive to themselves. And I absolutely agree with you on the 'the natives are getting restless' point, if that is meant in a condescending fashion, it's is grounds for a punch-up (verbally, at least). Damiantgordon (talk) 23:45, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I happened to be thinking of stories told in the family of the famine years in the 1840s, and of course of the old contrast between the Anglo-Irish protestant ascendancy, and the 'native' Irish Catholics. There's a hint of it in a novel, I see
“Miss Nolan,” Mrs. Redmond said. The teacher was in front of a large blackboard, sitting behind her desk on a raised platform at the head of the room. Of course. Colin Brown was in Sue Nolan's class. The outbreak had probably started with him and infected others among her pupils. “Doctor Laverty's here.” “I'm glad he is,” Sue Nolan said. “The natives are getting restless.” She pointed to where six boys, all seven or eight years old, were rising from their desk seats,' Patrick Taylor, An Irish Country Courtship: A Novel, Tom Doherty Associates, 2010 p.256.
Ireland's a very good place to grow up in (peripheries are generally more multi-visioned and therefore more creative than the metropolis) to understand the dynamics of power in the wider world.Nishidani (talk) 08:58, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Hahaha, I came back when i saw some Barnaby Joyce vandalism, someone else had restored it but I saw some category issues in my watchlist... anyway I couldn't resist. Will try to be here more regularly but easier said that done! -- Chuq(talk) 12:09, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Fixed incomplete "Label:", "Description:" and "Statement:" entity usage messages in various places (phab:T178090). Thanks, Matěj!
Improved violation messages for ranges involving the current date (e. g. “should not be in the future”).
Continued work on caching constraint check results.
Enabled Lua fine-grained usage tracking for better performance on several more wikis: hywiki, frwiki, svwiki, itwiki, zhwiki, bewiki, nlwiki, glwiki, and Wikimedia Commons (phab:T187265phab:T186714)
Representation and grammatical features of the form can be changed using the UI (WikibaseLexeme) (phab:T173743, phab:T160525)
While I have your attention (from my wtfs), I was (in any case) just about to point you at this new article and its new user, who was having a bad time in Article for Creation. I was pretty sure that building was heritage-listed so, having checked and it was indeed on the WA State Heritage Register) I added that fact (which then makes it notable) and accepted the article into mainspace. But I think both the article and the user could use some help from an experienced WA local like yourself. Kerry (talk) 01:03, 23 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Significantly (on average to 1/4th) reduced the number of changes from Wikidata showing up on the watchlists and recent changes on Wikipedias and the other sister projects. This way changes that do not affect an article should no longer show up. We're still holding off roll-out to Commons, Cebuano, Waray-Waray and Armenian Wikipedia because of scalability concerns.
Working on optimizing one of the largest database tables (wb_terms) (phab:T188279)
Fixing a bug on how Wikidata changes are shown on Wikipedia (phab:T189320)
Continued addressing security review issues for Wikibase-Lexeme extension (phab:T186726)
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The property suggestions were updated last week, the last update was in December 2017. The most noticable effect is the higher ranking of "family name" (P734) on items about people. Input about the suggester is still welcome.
George, le deuxième texte (fr), a website querying Wikidata to find French female authors, in order to bring more diversity in the literature school programs
New, configurable download page for Mix’n’match catalogs (example)
Upcoming: EuropeanaTech and Wikidata Workshop Day for GLAMs, Rotterdam (NL), Monday 14 May. A day of GLAM-related workshops around Wikidata and Structured Commons, for beginners and advanced users.
New search code for Wikidata merged. You may notice the improvement in the search results output for Wikidata item. However, new code for search is not enabled, only new results format. The search code will be enabled next week.
Improving formatting of language and lexical category in diff for Lexemes (phab:T189679)
ACTRIAL's six month experiment restricting new page creation to (auto)confirmed users ended on 14 March. As expected, a greatly increased number of unsuitable articles and candidates for deletion are showing up in the feed again, and the backlog has since increased already by ~30%. Please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day.
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In this edit could you insert a signature at the end of your text in the "Question for the death experts" section and before the "Proposal" section - or better still move the last sentence "Please add..." and signature to before "Proposal". Your existing post will get broken up when someone adds a comment to "Question for the death experts" and/or adds terms to use or not use.
What do you reckon of this template: {{Wikimedia Australia event}}. It could be used in the WP:Meetup/(City)/Invite meetup pages (e.g. here) as well as on events like QWiki. Any ideas? T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)talk 13:00, 18 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
WikiWorkshop, a forum bringing together researchers exploring all aspects the Wikimedia projects, in Lyon, April 24th. Seven papers related to Wikidata will be presented.
b) "Most local meetup editors leave off project tags and date categories and things, its a slow catchup ... " - I have no idea what you mean by "leave off project tags and date categories and things", and even less idea of what you mean by "its a slow catchup". Pdfpdf (talk) 11:10, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
As Tony Abbott didn't say: "Excrement happens". Pdfpdf (talk) 14:00, 20 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
i thought it was university libraries
the suppository of knowledge - which by all reports are either being flooded (ANU and UTAS) or in general stripped of so many funds and facilities they are indeed excrable in their output JarrahTree 14:03, 20 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There are at least 6 responses to that! Where do I start?
He was talking to guys in uniform who'd had their colleagues damaged or killed when he shared those pearls of wisdom with the planet. So no, nothing about universities there - just the ramblings of a Rhodes Scholar who should be capable of more useful statements.
The event-in-question was at a UniSA building, but not a library. 50% score on that aspect?
No, University Libraries in general, and a couple in particular, don't seem to be faring particularly well at the moment.
And then, independent of the above, who knows what the mad monk will say next? (Or do?) Pdfpdf (talk) 14:42, 20 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
We generally don't delete stubs just because of inactivity; some are called "permastubs" because there is suspicion that there is a low likelihood that any one of them will be developed beyond stub-ness. However, for many stubs, they fill a few purposes that a blank page cannot fill: (a) they provide a beginning to someone who can and does want to expand them by providing a framework so that like type articles look alike; (b) they populate templates and categories so those seeking further information actually have something to find and expand; (c) they allow unregistered users (who from time to time are precluded from creating articles) to expand the articles; and (d) they try to even out the extensive coverage of every place or person in the English-speaking world but less coverage elsewhere (see Wikipedia:Systemic_bias#Nature_of_Wikipedia's_bias, an essay but some folks' thoughts on the challenge). Hope this rant helps... Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:17, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
As I suggested, reasonable minds limited by AGF can differ. These principles aren't all to my liking, but after a few years here, they become "known terrain" to navigate through. Early on, Wikipedia suffered from a dearth of content and there were many projects that sought to expand the number of articles at all costs as a team-building and perhaps clout-building exercise, or possibly to show some raison d'etre. So we have literally millions of stubs of long-standing - even those which have been edited since create are most often edited by bots, just correcting spelling or changing categories as they shift or are renamed. I tend to think of the permastubs less as a bug than a feature. Nearly every small village or town in the first world has many online or readily accessible sources to be expanded and some nearby editors who care enough to dabble in editing the article. Less so for smaller places in the outer islands of Indonesia, say. I hope that may change in the future, but I am an optimist by nature. :-) Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:06, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, it's well-sealed (I hope!) in this house. What a storm it is! I don't mind the use of the state if it's Westen or South Australia, because they're self-explanatory ... I'm just followihn the model on other such pages. Graham87 12:52, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
WP:ACREQ has been implemented. The flow at the feed has dropped back to the levels during the trial. However, the backlog is on the rise again so please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day; a backlog approaching 5,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
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Paid editing - new policy
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Coming soon: Automatic article alerts (but there is a glitch)[edit]
Our WikiProject is now subscribed to the bot that makes automatic article alerts, but the subpage where they are posted has not been added to our WikiProject page yet because of a weird problem...
Featured portal nominations from two years ago keep popping up on there.
Once that is remedied, it will be posted on our WikiProject page.
Thank you.
Note that, this will only track base pages, because to track the rest, we'd have to create over 140,000 talk pages for the subpages, and that just isn't worthwhile (as we're trying to remove the subpages anyways). Therefore, any alerts for subpages will still need to be posted manually.
Thank you to those who have participated in portal deletion discussions. There are still some editors out there who despise portals, and this comes across in their argumentation style. Wow. Such negativity. But, there is some good news...
While portal detractors are trying to get rid of portals via MfD, we have deleted many of them via speedy deletion (per {{Db-p1}} or {{Db-p2}}). Essentially, they were bare skeletons, with maybe a little meat on them. The plus here is that speedy deletion is without prejudice to re-creating the portals. They can easily be restarted from scratch without getting approval, or be undeleted by request by someone willing to work on them. We have kept track of these, for when someone wants to rebuild them. They are listed at Portal talk:Contents/Portals#These are not listed yet.
We are also removing subpages, the functions of which have been migrated to portal base pages. To see which ones have been removed, look for the redlinks in our watchlist.
There are still 100 existing portals not yet presented on the main portal list at Portal:Contents/Portals. There were 400, so we've come a long way. Thank you! But we are not done yet...
Please list a couple of them. Every little bit helps. If each member of this project listed one more, it would almost all be done. Many hands make light work.
These developments make up just the tip of the iceberg. I'll have more to report in the next update, soon. — The Transhumanist 00:31, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I think your point about subject expertise is a good one and since it's not exactly germane to that review thought I'd respond to my thoughts here. Just how much knowledge I should have before starting a GA review is one I've struggled with. This particular review felt the furthest outside my comfort zone simply because not only had I not heard of it, there was a great likelihood of there being local knowledge around the topic that I would have no way of knowing was missing. I'm glad you popped in. But there is a struggle because this page had been waiting for a reviewer for more than 6 months (221 days). At a certain point it seems like the encyclopedia benefits from having someone give a good faith effort to review rather than it sitting in purgatory forever and so I end up reviewing an article that is outside my expertise zone. FAC has the advantage of many eyes in a way that GA doesn't. I really do wish more WikiProject members would step up when an article is nominated for GA in their area to provide that sort of expertise. You might want to think about doing a review or two yourself. It can be rewarding work. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 00:20, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
please read the mfd, afd and csd rationale. don't jump without reading. Quek157 (talk) 00:38, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
JarrahTree, He's ignored multiple people and I've been thinking that the only way to stop this may be to take it to ANI. If you're already gathering links, I don't want to duplicate the effort. Let me know. Natureium (talk) 00:46, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think going to ANI will help but I will not give any response. My positive seems more than negative. yes, try to collect diffs if you want. futile attempts though. anyway since the project do not need me and I don't see I can contribute in any places without getting flamed this is my response {{Semi-retired}}Quek157 (talk) 01:12, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ongoing: On 24 May, there was a significant outage affecting Wikidata and sister projects that use Wikidata. As a result, some features of are temporarily disabled: Wikidata's property suggester, Lua modules and parser functions calling by label instead of ID, search for the ArticlePlaceholder. We apologize for the inconvenience, we're working to get them back as soon as possible. For technical details, see: phab:T195520 & Incident documentation/20180524-wikidata.
Made constraint check result appear directly after adding a new statement (phab:T194247)
Working on looking up entities by external identifiers on Special:Search (phab:T99899)
Added Docker image to Wikibase website (phab:T189936)
Added WikibaseImport script to Docker images to make it easier for people to start their own Wikibase install with some data imported from Wikidata (phab:T192080)
Signpost article talk pages shouldn't be tagged[edit]
(re [1]) Otherwise they end up transcluded to the article, and they hide the big invitation for readers to leave comments. Thanks, Evad37[talk] 15:01, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Jarrah Tree, Not usre how I write to you but will try this approach ...JohnLong5 7here-I didn't actually create my own page - its bene up for many years - I was only trying to correct and update some of the text there. I've been editing other palaeontological entries of late-eg Ligulalepis. I shall continue to do this as my main contribution. Best regards, John ....JohnLong57 (talk) 02:07, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You can now use global preferences on most wikis. This means you can set preferences for all wikis at the same time. Before this you had to change them on each individual wiki.
Country geoshape data have been added to Commons and linked to the corresponding Wikidata items. These geoshapes can be used to visualise query results e.g. World map showing population of each country.
Hi JarrahTree. I've been working on Pituri for a while and would love to add an image of a pituri bag. Does WA Museum collection include a bag I could photograph or a free image I could use? If not, do you have any advice about approaching other Australian collections? Cheers. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 03:32, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I am currently trying to research Archibald Erskine as connection to Erskine Link in East Perth but at the moment I am finding a lot of articles on Trove for an Archibald Erskine Smith.
Is this the same Archibald Erskine?
One article I have started reading through states that he was a mining broker and in parts of North America he was known as "Coolgardie Smith" and classed as a Soldier of Fortune.
Archibald Erskine came to Perth in 1829 with the 63rd Regiment, was given land in Murray area near Peel and became the local justice of Peace, I would say by 1930 he'd have been well over 100 years old, I think that one isnt him. Gnangarra 08:02, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ha. "It's like asking to be blocked..." wasn't too far off the mark eh? Anyway, it's a returning SPAMMER who came back for another go... thanks for the cleanup job. Appreciated. I'm actually surprised somebody else didn't collect his hide before I got back. :D -- Longhair\talk 16:19, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, but I don't really understand what the dispute is about. If there's a problem, it'd probably be best to lay it out at WP:ANI or WP:ANEW, as appropriate. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:35, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Any chance that you could respond to my query at the foot of this page? Gog the Mild (talk) 13:53, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You have been ignoring this. Good. Please continue to do so. I have been contacting the wrong editor. Apologies. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:10, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
649 covers all mainland tribes, as far as I can check. So that's done. If I've missed any group and you notice, drop me a note. The Tasmanians are 48 ethnic units, but the destruction was so profound there's hardly any chance of making any article on individual groups as far as I can see, so that just leaves fixing the Tasmanians, one article. Cheers, and thanks for the help.Nishidani (talk) 19:01, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Of course he is well-intentioned, but these mass-edits on this subject are usually disastrous. I still haven't forgotten the particularly big fiasco of his move into political parties, such removing parties with WA and NSW representation from the national category because they were categorised in Victoria (but not in the states with MPs). Finding an article categorised in a parent and a child category might mean that it can be simply removed - or it might mean that there is a category issue which needs to be discussed, in the latter case which randomly removing the parent often leads to stupid outcomes. In any case, Mitch needs to think about what he has found, then act - and absolutely stop removing the parent in all circumstances.
Very often in these cases the answer is that Mitch has found the sort of category issue that means a discussion needs to be had - so perhaps, if I keep reverting his mass-moves where they lead to stupid outcomes, he will do that first, instead of only after being reverted.
I don't know what should happen here: all suburbs are currently in the city suburbs cat (unless they have their own suburb-specific category), and the random category for the City of Swan is an outlier. It might be that you create another category structure for suburbs-by-LGA, which may or not diffuse the main city suburbs category. It might be that you delete the City of Swan category. It might be that some other option is better. I don't particularly have a preference there. But randomly burying all the suburbs of the City of Swan (I had trouble even finding the category amidst the long lists of suburb-specific categories - and I knew what I was looking for!) because Mitch's instant response is to delete the parent is the worst of these potential outcomes. The Drover's Wife (talk) 01:01, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No need to threaten me. I went through and batch-reverted the entire mess before I even saw your message, so as not to leave an even bigger one. The Drover's Wife (talk) 01:05, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No disagreement here. I think this stuff needs to get actually discussed out a lot more than it currently does, but it's hard to get people to care about categorisation issues outside of their immediate focus of interest, so difficult to do more than hash out the local issues when they arise. (Though I will say more generally that this is an area where I wish everyone would stop unilaterally rearranging the place: the most logical category structures we've established have been the ones where we actually worked out a sensible way to organise things.) The Drover's Wife (talk) 01:14, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Learning to Generate Wikipedia Summaries for Underserved Languages from Wikidata, presented at the Conference of the North American Chapter of the Association for Computational Linguistics by Lucie Kaffee and Hady Elsahar (see the poster and the paper)
Developing a prototype for usability testing for how the term box (labels, descriptions, aliases) could work on mobile
Investigating how we can do the display of items (their label and sometimes description when linked to in a statement or in listings like Recent Changes) in a way that is less of an issue for the database
Working on including the dispatch lag in the maxlag API to make it easier for bots to see when they should stop editing because of performance reasons (phabricator:T194950)
Working on adding a Lua function to check if an item is a subclass/instance of another one (phabricator:T179155)
Created an API that returns constraint violations for an item in TTL format in preparation for making constraint violations queryable in the query service (phabricator:T194762)
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Added more helpful text on Special:NewLexeme to make it easier to understand what information is required (phabricator:T193602)
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Hi, I'm not much involved any more, I'm afraid. You might be better off asking User:Nick Moyes, who seems to be more current (and is certainly more competent and better-informed than I am). Hope that helps, Ericoides (talk) 08:31, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Recently I'm editing a page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karate and I am facing the difficulty as another user is keep reverting the page without a solid reason. I need your help or guide me to solve the problem. Thank you.Osmond (talk) 12:24, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks for your message about possible meetup of Perth Wikipedians. I could possibly be interested, though time is of the essence right now. Is this something that is already happening, or a new proposal? Ishel99 (talk) 15:47, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hehe, it's way past my bed time too... hopefully you don't see this till Saturday! I'll look forward to hearing more about possible meetups... To be honest I;m a very sporadic and undisciplined Wikipedian, but no doubt it's interesting to shoot the breeze and learn a few things! Ishel99 (talk) 15:55, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @JarrahTree: Thanks for the opportunity to catch up. (Always useful to speak to others.) I have now modified my preferences, added various pages to my watchlist, and included myself on the Australian biota group (??), so hopefully we will manage to help each other.. Speak to you soon online. MargaretRDonald (talk) 03:21, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
…aaaaargh, me ol' mate, but it showed the open door of a place I thought was shut. Being a master of navigation, I circumvented your bamboo-sling and I found my way here. Hope you are ported and able, see you anon. cygnis insignis 14:34, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for quality articles, beginning in 2005 with Imogiri and Mount Darwin (Tasmania), for welcoming new users, for gnomish tasks such as giving categories a talk page, and adding project tags for several projects, for missing, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!
Thanks for your initial response to the edits, (with a question), rather than an 'Undo' and an angry comment. I'm just getting rid of the (8000+) error messages that are produced in the system since they no longer recognize the parameter.
Gene Wilson (talk) 11:26, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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