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former resident of[edit]

In your very good options available - have you ever considered the boxes:

this person is a former resident of...  ??
this person is interested in x as a former resident... ??
Just curious. JarrahTree 12:04 pm, 16 January 2019, Wednesday (19 days ago) (UTC+8)
I certainly could, although you're the first person to request it. The options 72, 73, 37, 51, 52, 53, 54, and 35 of the User in region templates produce the following:
Wikitext userbox where used
{{User in Tasmania|72}}
This user is a former resident of the Australian state of Tasmania.
linked pages
{{User in Tasmania|73}}
This user has lived in the Australian state of Tasmania.
linked pages
{{User in Tasmania|37}}
This user is a former resident interested in the Australian state of Tasmania.
linked pages
{{User in Tasmania|51}}
This user is a proud native of the Australian state of Tasmania.
linked pages
{{User in Tasmania|52}}
This user is a native of the Australian state of Tasmania.
linked pages
{{User in Tasmania|53}}
This user is a nonresident native of the Australian state of Tasmania.
linked pages
{{User in Tasmania|54}}
This user was born in the Australian state of Tasmania.
linked pages
{{User in Tasmania|35}}
This user is a native interested in the Australian state of Tasmania.
linked pages
I could add a verb option to Template:User lives in so you could change This user lives in to This user lived in, This user has lived in, This user formerly lived in, This user once lived in, This user is a former resident of, etc. This would give you the option to cite a town as well as a region. If your verb phrase gets to long, you will run out of space in the userbox. What do you think?  Buaidh  talk contribs 12:33 pm, 16 January 2019, Wednesday (19 days ago) (UTC+8)

thank you[edit]

for the welcome! Nomad5515 (talk) 6:52 pm, 16 January 2019, Wednesday (19 days ago) (UTC+8)

Jimi Hendrix[edit]

I do not agree with the amount of categories at Jimi Hendrix - I believe there is something seriously wrong there
— User:JarrahTree
— https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Categorization&diff=879139554&oldid=879137969

[1][2] fixes two things that were wrong, but otherwise there is no obvious duplication. Mitch Ames (talk) 9:10 pm, 19 January 2019, Saturday (16 days ago) (UTC+8)

Speaking of JH, see Portal:Jimi Hendrix.    — The Transhumanist   5:28 pm, 20 January 2019, Sunday (15 days ago) (UTC+8)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #026, 20 Jan 2019[edit]

Well, here's the first issue of the new year. Enjoy...

New participants[edit]

A hearty welcome to new arrivals to the portals department:

Harvesting categories tool prototype[edit]

DannyS712 has created a user script prototype, User:DannyS712/Cat links, that can pull members from a category, a functionality we've been after since the project's revamp last Spring. Now, it's a matter of applying this technique to scripts that will place the items where needed, such as with a section starter script and/or portal builder script.

New portals since last issue[edit]

  1. Academic publishing
  2. Accounting
  3. Adam and Eve
  4. African Great Lakes
  5. Al Green
  6. Alternative views
  7. America's Next Top Model
  8. Andaman and Nicobar Islands
  9. Angles
  10. Applied mathematics
  11. Arabic
  12. Areas of mathematics
  13. Atlanta metropolitan area
  14. Atlantic Ocean
  15. Big Bash League
  16. Bijelo Dugme
  17. Bill Cosby
  18. Boats
  19. Bombardier Aerospace
  20. Bruce Willis
  21. Canadian law
  22. Cannons
  23. Caribbean American
  24. Chinese American
  25. Chinese Canadians
  26. Chinese gardens
  27. Chris Brown
  28. City
  29. Common law
  30. Criminal law
  31. Czechoslovakia
  32. Data
  33. Data warehouses
  34. DC Comics
  35. Deities
  36. DeKalb County
  37. Destiny's Child
  38. Differential equations
  39. Discrete geometry
  40. East Asia
  41. Economy of China
  42. Economy of India
  43. Economy of Malaysia
  44. Economy of the United Kingdom
  45. Ellen DeGeneres
  46. Email clients
  47. E
  48. Equations
  49. European Americans
  50. Filipino Americans
  51. Football in Algeria
  52. Fox Corporation
  53. Fractions and ratios
  54. Functional analysis
  55. Game theory
  56. Girlguiding
  57. Gloucestershire
  58. Grazhdanskaya Oborona
  59. Greek diaspora
  60. Habsburg Monarchy
  61. Hilbert's problems
  62. Hoodoo Gurus
  63. Hyundai Motor Company
  64. Iggy Azalea
  65. Indian Ocean
  66. Infinity
  67. Information theory
  68. Integrals
  69. Irish diaspora
  70. Irrational numbers
  71. Italian diaspora
  72. Japanese diaspora
  73. J. Cole
  74. Jennifer Lopez
  75. Jessica Lange
  76. John Fogerty
  77. Kehlani
  78. Kiev
  79. K. Michelle
  80. Knot theory
  81. Kool & the Gang
  82. Lakes in China
  83. Lake Van
  84. Leonardo DiCaprio
  85. Limerick
  86. Literary composition
  87. Long Island Rail Road
  88. Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority
  89. Lukas Graham
  90. Mathematical optimization
  91. Matt Damon
  92. Merchant ships
  93. Metallic means
  94. Metro-North Railroad
  95. Microsoft Windows
  96. Military of India
  97. Miss America
  98. Modulation
  99. Moon landing
  100. Mozilla
  101. Music of Ireland
  102. Narratives
  103. Nashville
  104. Nassau County
  105. Norfolk
  106. Nottinghamshire
  107. One Life to Live
  108. Overseas Chinese
  109. Percentages
  110. Probability distributions
  111. Public Broadcasting Service
  112. Quezon City
  113. Raven-Symoné
  114. R. Kelly
  115. Rodeo
  116. RuneScape
  117. Sarah Silverman
  118. Saturn rockets
  119. Science and technology
  120. Sesame Street
  121. Seth MacFarlane
  122. Ships
  123. Shipwrecks
  124. Shropshire
  125. Spaceports
  126. Space suits
  127. Spanish diaspora
  128. Steam locomotives
  129. Suffolk
  130. Suzuki
  131. Tanks
  132. Tensors
  133. The CW
  134. Thomas Aquinas
  135. T.I.
  136. TISM
  137. Tom Cruise
  138. Toni Braxton
  139. Toyota
  140. Transportation in the Philippines
  141. True Blood
  142. Violin
  143. Virgin Group
  144. Vladimir Putin
  145. Volkswagen
  146. Volume
  147. Warner Bros.
  148. Warships
  149. Warwickshire
  150. Washington D.C.
  151. Watercraft
  152. Web syndication
  153. Wikis
  154. Witchcraft
  155. Women's sports
  156. World of Warcraft

What else is going on[edit]

There have been some discussions at Wikipedia talk:Portal guidelines. DreamyJazz is working on a bot to place links to portals on root articles, category pages, and navigation footer templates. Portal bugs are getting dealt with soon after they are reported. Lots of wikignome activity (using Hotcat, etc.). Keep up the good work.    — The Transhumanist   5:27 pm, 20 January 2019, Sunday (15 days ago) (UTC+8)

Herding cats[edit]

[3][4] - feel free to offer you own opinion on that page explicitly as to

  • whether the guidelines should change or not
  • if so, how?
  • if not, (why) should we ignore the guidelines on so many pages?

Mitch Ames (talk) 7:43 pm, 20 January 2019, Sunday (15 days ago) (UTC+8)

Wikidata weekly summary #348[edit]

Greetings[edit]

G'day Sunshine Happy New Year! (I've forgotten my password - hence the IP address.) Cheers, 2001:44B8:2AD:6404:D15A:5687:2538:36F8 (talk) 7:48 pm, 23 January 2019, Wednesday (12 days ago) (UTC+8)

Wikidata weekly summary #349[edit]

The Signpost: 31 January 2019[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 20 – 31 January 2019[edit]

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Everything flows (and certainly data does)

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Re: indeed[edit]

Oh yes. One day we'll have more former admins than current ones ... Graham87 7:02 pm, 1 February 2019, last Friday (3 days ago) (UTC+8)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #028, 04 Feb 2019[edit]

Here's a quicky status report:

Old-style portals: 1,018
Single-page portals: 4,367
Total portals: 5,385

But of course, there has been more going on than just that...

Dreamy Jazz Bot is up and running![edit]

Dreamy Jazz Bot has been approved and is now up and running. What it does is places missing links to orphaned portals. It places a link in the See also section of the corresponding root article, and it puts one at the top of the corresponding category page. We have thousands of new portals that have yet to be added to the encyclopedia proper, just waiting to go live. When they do go live, over the coming days or weeks, due to Dreamy Jazz Bot, it will be like an explosion of new portals on the scene. We should expect an increase in awareness and interest in the portals project. Perhaps even new participants. Get ready... Get set... Go!

Another sockpuppet infiltrator has been discovered[edit]

User:Emoteplump, a recent contributor to the portals project, was discovered to be a sockpuppet account of an indefinitely blocked user. When that happens, admins endeavor to eradicate everything the editor contributed. This aftermath has left a wake of destruction throughout the portals department, again. The following portals which have been speedy deleted, are in the process of being re-created. Please feel free to help to turn these blue again:

And the corresponding talk pages:

New portals since the last issue[edit]

Keep up the great work[edit]

Until next time,    — The Transhumanist   6:09 pm, Today (UTC+8)

Tibet / Tibetan Buddhism[edit]

What did you mean? Please be more specific.    — The Transhumanist   6:11 pm, Today (UTC+8)

Creating new portals[edit]

Roughly how many do you expect to be making?    — The Transhumanist   6:13 pm, Today (UTC+8)

Wikidata weekly summary #350[edit]

Heading text[edit]

Up for a task?[edit]

Prior to April of last year, the portals WikiProject produced about 80 portals per year.

{{bpsp}} is designed to take advantage of {{navbox}} footer templates, populating 2 sections of a portal with each one.

The thing is, there are over 128,000 of them.

So, a simple hypothesis is that there are over 10,000 of them about subjects suitable for portals, and probably even more.

We made it to 5,000 portals with ease, and now we are shooting for the 10,000 mark.

The task, should you accept it, would be to hunt down subjects supported by navbox footers, and then use {{subst:bpsp}} to create corresponding titled portals.

There's a script that makes this process even faster.

Once a suitable subject has been found, it takes between 10 and 20 seconds to create the portal for it.

At a portal a day, that's 365 portals in a year.

At 10 portals a day, that's 3,650 portals in a year.

Let me know if you think you are up to it, and I'll provide some more tips.

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   21:43, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

P.S.: You thanked me for this post. Is that a "yes"?


Inneresting' - sounds interesting... JarrahTree 21:46, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have more details or is that it? if so yes... JarrahTree 21:54, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

More details? Absolutely! More to come...    — The Transhumanist   21:56, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]


More details[edit]

At a minute or so, that makes finding a subject to make a portal on the most time-consuming part of the task of portal creation these days.

To make the hunt as quick as possible, you need tools and tricks...

importScript('User:The Transhumanist/SearchSuite.js'); //Linkback: [[User:The Transhumanist/SearchSuite.js]]

Let's start out with WP:SearchSuite. Let me know when you have it installed.    — The Transhumanist   22:09, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This Month in GLAM: January 2019[edit]





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Italics in the wheatbelt[edit]

re your reversion of my edit ... Which specific purpose in MOS:ITALICS requires the use of italics here? It's not

  • emphasis
  • name of work of art, court case, scientific, vessel,
  • words as words
  • foreign term

Mitch Ames (talk) 09:45, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your thanks! Biggest, scariest job ever. Worried that I would delete a species that someone else had spent hours on. Fingers crossed. (Still working on it.) Gderrin (talk) 01:31, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Portal creation tip[edit]

Would you like to know how I create portals so quickly?

But first, do you use WP:wikEd?

If you use WP:wikEd, keep in mind that the following method does not work while wikEd is turned on. You absolutely have to turn wikEd off for it to work. Otherwise, wikEd will send the script into an endless loop, on every tab that the script is running. And that would be BAD.

That being said, the trick to quick portal creation is User:The Transhumanist/QuickPortal.js.

The way I used it on the provinces of Indonesia, was Ctrl+click on the various links at Provinces of Indonesia, then, in each tab, clicking on the menu item "Matching portal" in the Tools menu in the sidebar menu, and then clicking on the "Start the" link on the resulting screen (in each tab). Then, inspect the preview of the new portal in each tab, and click Save or Ctrl+W as appropriate.

Ctrl+clicking on the articles, will load each one into a tab. And you can traverse the tabs with Ctrl+Tab ↹. (In Firefox).

Enjoy.

Of course, feel free to ask any questions you may have.    — The Transhumanist   12:32, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #351[edit]

archive[edit]

ah, what a shame! would be wonderful to have access to those. It's such an interesting period. The Drover's Wife (talk) 21:15, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Any other suggestions for uncovered article topics from that period? The Drover's Wife (talk) 23:26, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Not just Sydney inner life - there is a whole set of filing cabinets full of material for all of australia that is not in trove that unless it is in peoples scrap books - is very difficult to retrieve - my specialist areas are tassie 70s, and sydney 70s, perth and wa same era - but I do know that it is a laborious process as it is not at the tip of a trove tag, it is physical checking through and slow things... but it is nothing compared to what I am doing in another un-related (so far) project - try getting a handle on 10,000 + images held in a government archive, which I have to hand photograph... sigh, it is taking quite some time. So the answer is - the gratifying easy quick response aspect of trove is great until 1955 - it is the 1960s and 1970s of oz that one thread of canberra times items in trove cannot even scratch JarrahTree 23:34, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to Wikimedians in Residence Exchange Network[edit]

Hello and nice to reconnect! You messaged me on my talk page. I want to invite you to meta:Wikimedians in Residence Exchange Network and you can invite any other Wikimedians in Residence. For about a year we have been meeting monthly at noon New York Time, which is 4am Perth time. Sorry about the disconnect, but maybe with some planning we can make it work. Right now the meeting is set up to serve Seattle-Paris, which I think is a 9 hour gap.

We post minutes to meta:Wikimedians_in_Residence_Exchange_Network/archive. If you want to discuss something you can bring it to the talk page.

This is a peer-to-peer support organization which seeks to mutually recognize and support each other. Consider also that if you want opinions on a matter, you can post a question to the agenda and answer will appear after the next meeting. Thanks, we all depend on each other. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:56, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

confusing moves[edit]

Hey,

Re. my confusing moves, the easiest way for me to create gobs of new redirects is to move existing rd's to the names I want, and let a bot clean up the resulting dbl rd's. So, if 'X language' rd's to 'Y language', and 'X' is best linked there as well rather than to an ethno article (e.g. the 'Eastern Foo language', where the 'Eastern Foo' are not a people), then what looks like a move from 'X language' to 'X' is really just the creation of a new rd from 'X' to 'Y language'. You'd need to look at the content of X to see it's just a rd. I know, it's confusing, but it saves a lot of time, esp. when I'm covering spelling variants, forms of the name with and without diacritics, adding/subtracting dab terms, etc.

kwami (talk) 01:21, 15 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply[edit]

Hrm? Not sure what you're referring to. The Drover's Wife (talk) 09:11, 15 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

John Olive Lees[edit]

Hi JT! I have just this morning deleted a name from the list of 1912 North Mount Lyell disaster casualties, in which you have an interest, having discovered that rumors of his death ... etc. Now I find that his name is mentioned in a paper The North Mount Lyell disaster - a miscarriage of justice by one Peter Schulze, published around the same time as the addition of the name, and wondered if there is a story there. Do you have access to the on-line version? I would be delighted to have my "bold edit" reverted if I was somehow wrong. Doug butler (talk) 22:53, 16 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for the Schulze text. Totally convincing, and I do know something of electrical installations, though 700A fuses are way out of my league! Unfortunately nothing about John Olive Lees, but mentions of my man Mervyn Murray were interesting and useful. His statement at the Royal Commission (not mentioned in the Schulze paper) that an electrical fault was unlikely, as the equipment came from the "very best suppliers", was however cringemaking. Doug butler (talk) 13:40, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kings Cross[edit]

Yeah, I'm out - unwatchlisted. They bloat the article, there's no plausible reason why there needs to be a gallery of six, you yourself opposed a gallery on the talk page and I'm being reverted by two people who refuse to use the talk page any longer (note that my ignored response trying to find a consensus was the last post on there). Have fun. The Drover's Wife (talk) 10:51, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Next time, if you're keen on the talk page furthering the issue, perhaps you might use it instead of joining that dude in ignoring it and reverting without explanation. I'm fine with some of the plans going in amidst the text, but neither of you were remotely interested in coming to any kind of consensus and I'm too busy offline these days to stuff around with articles where people are going to ignore discussion and railroad me with reverts. The Drover's Wife (talk) 11:03, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #352[edit]

Incorrect tagging[edit]

per this edit

do not in any way need extra items beyond the project tag - please do not add

needs-image=yes |needs-infobox=yes

and there is no template named {{Years}}. I just cleaned up about 10 of your screw ups. 76.127.20.109 (talk) 23:36, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

again, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO ADDED needs-image=yes |needs-infobox=yes! Do you get it? YOU ARE THE ONE WHO ADDED needs-image=yes |needs-infobox=yes!
try reading the article history!
My diff [5] I changed {{Years}} to {{WikiProject Years}}.
My diff [6] I changed {{Years}} to {{WikiProject Years}}. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO ADDED needs-image=yes |needs-infobox=yes!
My diff [7] I changed {{Years}} to {{WikiProject Years}}. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO ADDED needs-infobox=yes!
Do I need to list the other 5 changes? 76.127.20.109 (talk) 23:48, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, so you do want me to list more of your screw ups? I'm not the one who started this. 76.127.20.109 (talk)
As the editor above insists on repeatedly deleting my replies - admittedly on my part hasty and not that polite - that they were, with some time for thought in murderous morning traffic what had happened, I hereby offer an expanation in the expectation that the IP is located in New Jersey is simply an IP who has for whatever reason has found it expedient to edit from an IP despite quite a resource of knowledge of wikipedia editing. New users do not have the capacity to understand most of the components of the above.

I had been using an app that when the word 'years' is typed in, it usually links to the wikiproject years - however, it can connect with something other than the wikiproject, and in my editing, I had failed to see the result... despite the apps capacity to let an editor see the result of the edit really well before hitting the save button, I had not realised the mistake. So my mistake, and yes the IP is correct, but I do not condone WP:SHOUTING regardless of where the issue arises.

I often screw up - and gladly accept corrections, but I must say that I do have an inherent suspicion of IPs editing complex wikipedia tasks - I have never seen a convincing and comprehensive explanation as to why editing from an IP or, repeatedly reverting talk page messages, as an example of what it is all WP:ABOUT, but I am sure I could always be convinced if I had a reasonable explanation for the practices... JarrahTree 01:04, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I do have an inherent suspicion of IPs editing complex wikipedia tasksWP:AGF - don't just mention the acronym in the occasional talk page discussion, follow the guideline, assume good faith unless/until there's evidence to the contrary.
I have never seen a convincing and comprehensive explanation as to why editing from an IP ... but I am sure I could always be convinced if I had a reasonable explanation for the practices... — Challenge accepted...
I occasionally make edits while not logged in, because:
  • I'm not on a trusted computer and/or network
  • Privacy reasons - I have been known to make legitimate edits that I don't want linked to my Wikipedia account and thus real world identity
Mitch Ames (talk) 12:46, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
your opinion was not asked for. JarrahTree 12:51, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

hello again[edit]

Yep, back making a few edits here and there, not that I have any more free time now than I used to but I'll see how long I last before burning out! I too was surprised there wasn't a 2019 Tasmanian bushfires article yet either... that's going to be a fairly big job... -- Chuq (talk) 12:17, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]