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December 2019—Issue 009


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Your comment on Mitch Ames talk page[edit]

@JarrahTree:. I don't know this member (I dropped by to add a thanks), but I think you might want to consider striking these comments as they seem to fairly blatantly fall foul of WP:CIVIL. Best, Darren-M talk 11:25, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #397[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Wikipedia meetups in April 2020 requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. UnitedStatesian (talk) 03:43, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oops[edit]

Oops, sorry, clobbered that user with a warning after you'd already posted a welcome/warning message. Misread the date and thought it must be a serial offender. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 07:28, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Problem with user Bluesatellite[edit]

Hi there, i wonder if you could help me out with a editing problem on the wikipedia article Proclamation of Indonesian Independence. The person Bluesatellite is rewriting the article again and again and is erasing sources which does not match the vison of the Indonesian government in which it is told that the world accepted Indonesian independence in 1945. All the sources tell 1949, but Bluesatellite is erasing all these sources with from the Indonesian government or Indonesian articles. I used Newspapers and UN sources to provide sources which support a neutral vision, but everytime it's erased. Could you be of some help?

Many greetings

--BabiBandung (talk) 13:49, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #398[edit]

Thanks for your message, and hope all is well with you and yours[edit]

Hi @JarrahTree: and thank you for your message. Yep, I am alive/well/comprehending and so on. I am quite aware that my edits reflect a rather idiosyncratic take on... pretty much everything. As for my additions of ISBNs to the Peter Corris, I partially agree that it was "unsightly and unhelpful". Maybe we should have created articles for those books? Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 12:24, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Re: there indeed is a story[edit]

Oh yes, there really is! If I were ever in that area again I'd love to go there ... if only to harass the guy who owns it about weather records, lol ... Graham87 14:17, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lead sentences[edit]

FYI, most decent articles tend to start with something like (for example) "...is an Australian politician. He was a [party] member of the [parliament] from [year] to [year], representing [seat]. It might be worth mentioning more often for federal MPs, for example, "...representing the New South Wales seat of [seat name], but for state MPs its a given as long as someone thinks to mention the parliament in the lead section. The Drover's Wife (talk) 02:26, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We don't gossip, we network. Mitch Ames (talk) 12:15, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #399[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Subdistricts of Yogyakarta (special region) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:36, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AfD[edit]

Eh, it's pretty easy for these kinds of articles to stick around for ages: random foreigners will see the "college" and assume notability even with a crap article and probably wouldn't come across something linked from an industrial estate suburb article anyway. (It's interesting Wikipedians' preconceptions about this stuff - the last time we had one of these private providers with no sources nominated for deletion we had to have a real argument to get it deleted (because people think "ooh, college"), but we have to fight to keep Merivale (company) despite the fact it's a billion-dollar business that became notable a good thirty years before I was born). The Drover's Wife (talk) 12:22, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on Category:W.A. Sporting Car Club requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:12, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Back[edit]

Just archived my talk page including your message. Back virus free (as far as I can tell) although the surgical mask was very popular at Singapore Airport. Will be attempting to help knock off the last of the biota list in the next few week. Trust all is well. Hughesdarren (talk) 09:01, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #400[edit]

Re: hahaha[edit]

Yeah ... and there's the small matter of the "Mc" in his surname ... and what comes up when you Google ""Neil McNeil" ballarat, like this. Graham87 03:03, 31 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Books & Bytes – Issue 37[edit]

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On behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:10, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

you are wa. you are wikipedian. you fix and review! or me get big bat.

also, you could fix the State Library of Western Australia being part of DCA, which no longer exits. thanks mark, your so smart!

Wikidata weekly summary #401[edit]

January 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter[edit]

January 2020—Issue 010


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Christmas darter by Enwebb and Cwmhiraeth, reviewed by J Milburn
Saxifragales by Michael Goodyear, reviewed by starsandwhales
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Wikidata weekly summary #402[edit]

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Toodyay[edit]

Have I missed something? It's the only article on my watchlist with that issue so I edited it accordingly. Nonetheless - being in Category:National Trust of Western Australia suggest that the Trust owns or operates the building (which was why I actually checked out the page, because I hadn't thought Toodyay Court House was a NTWA museum) - that it is there because it is classified is absolutely not obvious. It really needs a Category:Places classified by the National Trust of Western Australia or equivalent wording if the intention is to form a category of classified places (which is a good idea). The Drover's Wife (talk) 23:31, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As I said on the talk page, I'm now completely lost at where you're coming from. The Drover's Wife (talk) 23:46, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Still baffled? All of that sounds good to me so I'm not sure where the aggro comes from. The Drover's Wife (talk) 01:12, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request for help[edit]

Hello JarrahTree and thanks for the welcome. I have a question. What happens if another user edits my correction and reverts back to an incorrect and ungrammatical sentence in an article? This has happened with my edit to an article an the Sandy Hook shootings. is there a guideline? I don't want to get into a ding-dong with this other user! Thanks! Bigmund (talk) 08:25, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you[edit]

Hi JarrahTree and thanks for your warm welcome. Apologies in advance if this isn't the correct way to reply to a talk on Wikipedia. Cheers
Idealight20 (talk) 04:52, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wawalag[edit]

Thanks for the explanation - I can understand the frustration - on any AfD it's annoying to see users who know nothing about particular issues come in and give their "opinion" which results from doing a Google search and nothing more (and it falling entirely on users who want to keep articles to do all the hard work of showing why things should be kept and not getting listened to). For my sins I didn't do a Wikipedia search on the term and should have done so. Given the limited information on the Wawalag page and the much more appropriate place on the Yunggor page, I'll strike my !vote and change to a merge or redirect (whatever is more appropriate). Agree that there should not be a separate page at this point. Bookscale (talk) 10:55, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

do it[edit]

"do it..." — Yes, because all of my other edits in areas where others are more knowledgeable, and/or in categorisation, have been accepted without any problems! </sarcasm> Mitch Ames (talk) 11:29, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on Category:National Trust of Australia (WA) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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New Page Reviewer newsletter February 2020[edit]

Hello JarrahTree,

Source Guide Discussion

The first NPP source guide discussion is now underway. It covers a wide range of sources in Ghana with the goal of providing more guidance to reviewers about sources they might see when reviewing pages. Hopefully, new page reviewers will join others interested in reliable sources and those with expertise in these sources to make the discussion a success.

Redirects

New to NPP? Looking to try something a little different? Consider patrolling some redirects. Redirects are relatively easy to review, can be found easily through the New Pages Feed. You can find more information about how to patrol redirects at WP:RPATROL.

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Refresher

Geographic regions, areas and places generally do not need general notability guideline type sourcing. When evaluating whether an article meets this notability guideline please also consider whether it might actually be a form of WP:SPAM for a development project (e.g. PR for a large luxury residential development) and not actually covered by the guideline.

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16:08, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Category:Kwinana, Western Australia has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Kwinana, Western Australia, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Calistemon (talk) 07:35, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Kwinana, Western Australia[edit]

Hi JarrahTree, I have nominated the Category:Kwinana, Western Australia for deletion, which you created. See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 February 17 for the rationale but, basically, Category:City of Kwinana has superseded it. If you can see any other uses for it feel free to fill the category again. Regards, Calistemon (talk) 07:39, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #403[edit]

Nuisance[edit]

Not the only one, Quindanning, Western Australia appears to be in two different regions as well. Calistemon (talk) 11:45, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A pale shadow against your 230,000! Calistemon (talk) 12:01, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I quote:
Quindanning (Boddington) is located in the Peel region
Crossman (Boddington) is located in the Peel region
I can see that Crossman could cause some confusion as it is right on the border of the shire but Quindanning is not. Calistemon (talk) 12:22, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ssage I received... ==

Hi, may I know what do you mean? You mean I should delete all his articles? Or you want me to withdraw my PROD request? I am a bit confused. I am in no way targeting that user and i was just looking at articles using the "random" function. Could you please reply on my talk page? Thanks:) WikiAviator (talk) 07:17, 22 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your advice. It isn't about the quality of the article, but mean its notability not verifiable, therefore i am deleting it. A superb article with a not so notable subject is still ought to be axed.WikiAviator (talk) 07:29, 22 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for creating the article. Some pointers: when you create a citation refname, it should have a semantic value (see Template:Refname rules) so that editors who edit in wikicode (i.e. Source screen) can more easily find them; the templates in the editing toolbar create and add standardized citations:
- Click "Cite" on the editing toolbar and the "Templates" window appears
- Click "Templates" and the selections for cite web, cite news, cite book, cite journal appear
- Choose one of the templates
- Click [Show/hide extra fields] to open all the parameters available
- Enter details about the source in the corresponding parameters
- Click [Preview] to review the citation
- Click [Insert] and the {{cite}} template is automatically added to the article.
I hope you find this information helpful.  Pyxis Solitary (yak). L not Q. 10:49, 22 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #404[edit]

Locations[edit]

I wonder if it was feasible to have the region boundaries added to File:Western Australia Local Government Areas.svg, or a map of each region with the shires in it. In a similar way, each of the cities, towns and shires could do with a map of its suburbs. I'm no good at creating such maps, unfortunately. It would be a worthwhile effort for an editor skilled in maps. Currently I rely on my UBD street directory, my Hema WA 4WD atlas and google maps. Calistemon (talk) 08:47, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mandurah[edit]

I had a productive morning getting images for all the State registered places in Mandurah, except Allandale Homestead, which was to far south for today. I even got close to Cooper's Mill, on Cooleenup Island, getting to just the other side of it on one of the branches of the Murray. I was told the gate to the last bit of the road, Tonkin Drive, is usually closed, but was open today. Sadly, further progressing towards Pinjarra was abruptly stopped when I picked up a tek screw in my front tire and had to limp back to Mandurah. Still, I'm happy, all but one of List of State Register of Heritage Places in the City of Mandurah now have an image. Calistemon (talk) 10:35, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of Shipwrecks[edit]

Good day mate . Could you please inform user John Beta to stop erasing the clipper Redemptora from list of WA shipwrecks? It seems biased to say the least and excessive to call my contributions "vandalism" just to justify his own defective knowledge on the subject. Just one example: He intends to "define" what a shipwreck is or even correct the data for its sinking even against all evidence ( that has been corrected by what he calls "barelink"). I have added further sources to prove this is an important shipwreck of which little was known before the "barelink" (i.e. A master thesis form UWA) appeared. Thanks for all help . Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).

data corrected[edit]

Hi Jarrah corrected the date of Redemptora sinking/abandonment. It seems one or two ships are mentioned data of construction as data of sinking, hence the correction. Have added more sources to the "barelink".

Wikidata weekly summary #405[edit]

February 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter[edit]

February 2020—Issue 011


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I'm looking in to it, mate[edit]

The whole Wazdanny slew of articles. --Shirt58 (talk) 10:09, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

VIP - email tells all - cheers... JarrahTree 10:16, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Admin noticeboard discussion[edit]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Admin trouble between Shirt58 and Gnangarra regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Fram (talk) 15:15, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on Category:Lawyers from Hobart requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Wikidata weekly summary #407[edit]

Why did you list her as "living=no", twice, in the project banners? She appears to be alive. If you know she is not, then please update her article. Thanks. PamD 19:39, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sir, Requested please review the page this is Currently Submitted. you see the draft articles and in my talk page add tag  Done or  Not done.(thanks for taking) 3:50 pm, 18 March2020 (UTC).Vivek ji123 (talk)

David Beal[edit]

Thank you JarrahTree for your encouragement on the photographer bios I have been writing! Always good to know someone out there is keeping a critical (as in helpful) eye on things. David Beal was certainly important - lots of pics on Trove, SLNSW, but bio details are very impossible to track down...he's still alive, somewhere. I'm interested in that cracker shot of the running emus on your page - do tell me more!
But you have to be there, be alert, and have a camera! Jamesmcardle(talk) 21:44, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fremantle Fortress[edit]

Thank you for the source provided, it was invaluable for the Fremantle Fortress article. Just one question, drawing on your local knowledge. The only one of the batteries I could not pin point the location for is Swanbourne Battery (See table). I presume it was near where Campbell Barracks (Western Australia) are now but haven't been able to find anything definitive. Have you got any knowledge on the exact location? Calistemon (talk) 06:01, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]