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Tropical cyclone images

I think I will use JPG files on most circumstances, but if I think this is the peak intensity of the storm, I will try to use PNG files. Dustin (talk) 17:04, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

If the original file is a TIFF file from NASA Earth Observatory, you still don’t need to use PNG for it. -- Meow 17:12, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Can you please elaborate? Dustin (talk) 17:22, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Sometimes, the website provides TIFF files. The original file of Neoguri 2014-07-07 0455Z.jpg is actually a TIFF file. -- Meow 17:30, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
I am sorry to say that I am not aware of how to process a TIFF file. Dustin (talk) 17:37, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Would you tell me your software? -- Meow 17:47, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
What do you mean? I have been cropping images with Paint.NET, and my operating system is Windows 7 Home Premium, if that helps. Dustin (talk) 17:50, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Paint.NET could open a TIFF file. What I meant is when you find the source which is TIFF from the website, you don’t need to export it to PNG. Everybody could download the TIFF file if they want to have a lossless one. -- Meow 17:56, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Despite all that, what loss is there in uploading a PNG other than the time it takes for me to complete the actual uploading? Dustin (talk) 17:58, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Saving people’s time for downloading. -- Meow 18:04, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Regardless, with NASA Worldview images, I still plan on uploading PNG files if it appears to be a peak intensity image. Even if JPG files have very little loss, I would prefer to upload a lossless file on Commons when I know that the person who wanted that file at a lossless resolution will not have the cropping capabilities and/or time to do so him/herself. Dustin (talk) 18:09, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

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Dissipation of Rammasun

Hey, Meow. Can you please give an explanation why you think that Rammasun is till active? I say that it had dissipated from JMA's Tropical Cyclone Information. It says that it is their final advisory. That is what everyone do last year in WikiPedia, when it JMA says or shows something like that, it is declared that it had dissipated. Just leave a message in my talk page. Typhoon2013] (talk) 02:08, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

JMA BT

Hi Meow, I have seen in places that the JMA reanalysis their weather maps after the fact, would you happen to know if they put them out on the Japanese or English sites at all? Regards.Jason Rees (talk) 15:53, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

They are only in Japanese and not for the entire northwest Pacific. -- Meow 17:05, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
Interesting, Thanks.Jason Rees (talk) 17:26, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Replacing images

Hello, again. I have discovered that you reverted my edits because of the same image, which is Genevieve's potential track by JTWC. I do not know who made the second image. I actually made the image first and then the next day, the file is different. Typhoon2013 (talk) 21:02, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I found that you uploaded a bit faster. The problem is that you chose an untraditional and incorrect file name, as well as you cannot update frequently. At least I have put yours into the Genevieve gallery. -- Meow 21:08, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

That's it...

... we need to discuss this. Just some random pages used by them do not justify defying the standard rules of English. Things like "NASA" are acronyms and are capable of being pronounced, so "the" is unnecessary. "JMA" and "JTWC" are impossible to pronounce as spelled J-M-A and J-T-W-C, and so they must use "the" before them as with any other non-acronym abbreviation. Dustin (talk) 01:57, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

I have asked for help in the WPTC discussion page. -- Meow 02:07, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Okay. That's a better place for us to discuss and resolve this issue. Thanks. Dustin (talk) 02:08, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

RE: Lingling

Hmm - As i said on July 26, this is a problem i hate as there is a problem, with sourcing the fact that the two tropical depressions were connected for the reader even though we know that they probably were connected. However, looking at Steve Youngs January 2014 tracks he cites them together. Also dont forget the NRL doesnt issue TC Forecasts or position updates, they just store the JTWC's running best track and advisories.Jason Rees (talk) 16:05, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
I know what you worry about, but I have done enough investigation and found many official sources. I will try to merge the two into one in the season article after finishing the Lingling article. -- Meow 16:13, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

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RSMC ?

what is RSMC ? can you give me a link  ! 101.99.52.217 (talk) 13:36, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

I assume you are referring to Regional Specialized Meteorological Centers; regarding tropical cyclones, for the East Pacific, the RSMC is the National Hurricane Center (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov), for the Central Pacific, the RSMC is the Central Pacific Hurricane Center (http://www.prh.noaa.gov/hnl/cphc/), and for the West Pacific, it is the Japan Meteorological Agency (http://www.jma.go.jp/en/typh/). I believe you were asking about the West Pacific here... I answered just because I thought I could help, and I happen to have just about every page I ever have edited on my watchlist. Dustin (talk) 21:54, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Resilient Barnstar
Hey there! Regardless what happens over the discussion about the LPA, I just wanted to thank you for making the Lingling article. I really do value your edits, and you deserve some praise :) ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:34, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink: What a surprise. o.o Thank you, but I have to admit that I felt so frustrated about the issue. -- Meow 15:38, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

I hope your frustration can be resolved though. Over my years of editing, I've often faced some frustration, when really it's just people being passionate about editing :) ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:47, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Yeah so I calmed down and realised that many people still participate on tropical cyclone articles. It is always better than only myself. I am also planning to gather track data of important extratropical cyclones, which would help readers and editors of non-tropical cyclone articles a lot. -- Meow 15:58, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Ah neat! Yea, the extratropical storm coverage is not the best on WP, hehe. To be honest, it's probably because of the difficulties in sourcing. It's so easy to find sources for a named tropical cyclone, but for an extratropical storm that had no name? That's much harder. I know @Thegreatdr: is working on a compilation to make essentially a best track for all extratropical storms, which will help research efforts immensely in the future. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:12, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
GISC Tokyo’s Open Data operated by the Japan Meteorological Agency helps a lot, because it collects most of advisories around the world. I will work on track data of North Pacific and North Atlantic major storms. My only issue for it right now is the equirectangular projection. -- Meow 11:40, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Thank you Meow for solving this kind of problem in the 2014 article. We really appreciate it. :) @Hurricanehink: and Meow, just saying that during January 2014, I created the article in the first place but someone removed and disagreed on it and thank you Meow for putting it back. Also I am not saying that you guys should give me a barnstar or anything by creating the article, I am just saying. Typhoon2013 (talk) 04:36, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Fengshen and Karding

Hello, Meow. Long time I haven't chat to you. Just saying, no one is making tracks for Fengshen, especially Karding since it had already dissipated. I just thought to leave this message to you since Keith Edkins doesn't really go on Wikipedia that much so I count on you. Thanks. Typhoon2013 (talk) 04:26, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

I will create them after 06Z today. -- Meow 05:05, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Meow. I thought that only few editors are editing the page or making tracks since August (or the peak if the season) is really weak with no storms forming. Good record, eh? Typhoon2013 (talk) 09:58, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Actually a bad record bringing more records including the second hottest August in my city. -- Meow 10:06, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

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JTWC wp1714 track.gif

Why??? The track is correct and right warning. What is different? Although I have discovered 1 difference about the uploads from yours and mine: it is the size. Just saying I wanted to help, but what site do you use to upload these JTWC warning tracks? Typhoon2013 (talk) 08:41, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Yours are too small to read clearly. I don’t know where you got them. -- Meow 08:42, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
Oh, I got them from hurricanezone.net . Also, I have uploaded the JTWC track of 18W and I was wondering if it is right now. Are you happy? (if it is). Have a good end of the month :) Typhoon2013 (talk) 07:14, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Perfect. -- Meow 13:14, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

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Misleading time on the current typhoon infobox and 2013 PTS timeline

Sorry, Meow. I did not know that rule and no one told me. I will try to be automatic with that rule. Just being kind, don't blame me all the time since there are a lot of anonymous users who do that. Also, about the 2013 PTS timeline, I thought that there is very good information but there is too much. I don't want to tell you the whole thing, so go to the talk page of Jason Rees. Typhoon2013 (talk) 08:37, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

You are a member, but they are not. I just feel bad that it is failed to be semi-protected. -- Meow 08:49, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Oh also, I saw some of your edits before on the 2014PTS article that if a storm is becoming extratropical or has its last advisory by an agency you remove the current infobox, right? I was asking you this because 2 people don't agree with me with Phanfone. Typhoon2013 (talk) 01:55, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
I don't care about it so much, but I would only remove it when JMA considers a system becoming completely extratropical. -- Meow 03:14, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

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Someone is reverting my edits and has lots of warnings by other users

Hi, Meow. I was just wondering if you could help me here. In the last couple of weeks, I am busy fixing and editing tropical cyclone seasons, especially the Pacific typhoon season to make it better. Although I have noticed that someone has been reverting my edits and that person is always the same person who reverts it. It looks like he is looking at my contributions and just revert them without a reason why. The person who I am talking about is not a user or an admin. I have looked at his talk page and I have seen lots of warnings by other users. I am really annoyed with this guy and I don't want him reverting any edits and making an article bad. I chose you to leave my message here because you are a good person and makes an article better. Typhoon2013 (talk) 22:10, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Have you reported that person? It should be blocked. -- Meow 04:52, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
I know. This is weird but, for me, about 3 quarters of his edits are not that good but the others are good and helpful. Also I can't block him since I am not yet an administrator and that's why asked Hink (Hurricanehink) that if I am ready to be an admin. Do you think he should really be blocked, as of this week? Typhoon2013 (talk) 09:22, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Oh, also if you want to know who he is, it is 178.202.135.29. And as I said, if you look at his talk page, there are a lot of warning by other users this month. Typhoon2013 (talk) 09:25, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Request an admin to block him/her or a semi-protection to the articles… I only have these ideas. -- Meow 10:44, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Ok, sure. Thanks. Typhoon2013 (talk) 03:30, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
Well, well. I may have to also report you if you keep converting JMA locations back to JTWC. -- Meow 04:34, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
Ok, I'll also keep that in mind for future storms. So this location thing is a new rule. But who made that rule and why?Typhoon2013 (talk) 02:54, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
That is just for convenience for readers, and it is so weird to use the JTWC locations when a storm is over Japan. -- Meow 04:10, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Podul formation

Hello. I was just asking that if PAGASA starts issuing a storm first, that's when the storm formed right? Because in the 2013 PTS article, PAGASA issued the storm first on Tropical Storm Podul and a lot of anonymous users don't agree with me, especially Hurricanehink. Imagine this, if PAGASA started issuing it first, and then the JMA or JTWC, we still put it the formation when PAGASA started issuing it because PAGASA also names storms too. But if CMA started it, then no. I'll leave Podul's formation to November 10 for now. Typhoon2013 (talk) 02:50, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

I’ve checked the files. JMA operationally upgraded it to a TD on 9 November, but it was changed to 11 November in the best track data. As it was not operationally downgraded to a LPA between 9 and 11 November, the best track data is the only reliable information to refer to. -- Meow 04:19, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
So, we will stick with the best track data, not PAGASA? Because there are a lot of storms like this and their formation is when PAGASA started issuing it. For example: 2007's Typhoon Lekima and 2011's TD Goring (all though Goring was obvious, its formation can be July 10, not 9).Typhoon2013 (talk) 02:50, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
I think we should make more people debate this. -- Meow 05:56, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, I was thinking of that too. Although how would I do this? Where do I leave the message in what talk page article?.Typhoon2013 (talk) 07:14, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Also, I will start the debate tomorrow since it is night time here and I have school tomorrow. Or you can start it if you want to. ).Typhoon2013 (talk) 07:17, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Re: typhoons

I respect typhoons very much, I think they're the best the planet has to offer in terms of tropical cyclones. However, I feel the same way about strong typhoons as I do about strong hurricanes. If they don't affect land and aren't record breaking, then they won't be remembered in the long run, and they shouldn't have an article. I proposed mergers for Cleo 58 in the Atlantic and Patsy 59 in the EPAC, and feel the same way about Nuri, that it's tropical history isn't notable enough on its own (compared to a weaker typhoon that might've killed several dozen people). Does that make sense? Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 20:32, 26 November 2014 (UTC) Also, it has nothing to do with it being written by you. You write well! However, I only believe that storms that seriously affect land should get articles. Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 20:33, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Why don’t you merge Nida, Rick, Lekima, Genevieve, etc.? They have their importance on meteorology itself, as well as the JTWC analyses that Nuri was as strong as Nida, Rick and Vongfong. What I feel is that you don’t want me to continue contributing on articles related to tropical cyclones. I am sick now, but your comments make me sicker right now. -- Meow 20:40, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
I do want you to continue writing. As I said, you write well! I just wonder, why don't you write on storms that affect land? Sorry that you're sick now, btw. Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 21:02, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
Many editors often contribute to storms which affect populous areas, although they often make the articles look like a recycle bin. However, I do have created or significantly improved many articles which are storms severely affecting land. -- Meow 04:56, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Bomb cyclone storm track needed

Hello. I noticed that you were the one who compiled the track map below, so obviously, you have access to track data that a lot of us don't. Can you please create a second track map for the bomb cyclone using the points from the original track (points from November 7–13)? We don't have a track at the moment, and I think that you're the best user for this task. Thanks. LightandDark2000 (talk) 03:03, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

I have created the single track and put it into the new article. -- Meow 12:37, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you so much! LightandDark2000 (talk) 10:51, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Hagupit

While JMA has released an update, JTWC doesn't seem to have followed suite. I'm thus curious where you got the 1-minute sustained winds of 155 knots.--Jasper Deng (talk) 01:29, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

I got it from NOAA and NRL. I seldom update from these websites immediately, but now the situation is very serious. -- Meow 01:33, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Wow. At this rate, it could beat Haiyan...--Jasper Deng (talk) 01:45, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
The conditions are not as favourable as Haiyan’s now, as well as Hagupit has lost its CDG pattern significantly. The problem is that it will affect the area which has not completely recovered. -- Meow 01:48, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
JTWC's 13th warning just came out, and it forecasts 170 knots - and for that to be sustained for 24(!) hours, to boot (then again, they forecasted that with Nuri and it didn't happen). I doubt it will reach that but I feel sorry for those who are gonna get hit; as Robert Simpson said, any Category 5 is devastating regardless of how high the actual speeds are (as long as they are Category 5 of course).--Jasper Deng (talk) 02:18, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
JTWC gave that intensity too early. They analysed Hagupit at 2332Z based on visible imageries, but it was not an actual T7.5 system at that time. If Hagupit cannot consolidate further, JTWC will keep the intensity, but JMA may give it at 110kt or 115kt today. -- Meow 02:39, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Which is exactly what happened as of now. The places where you got the original 155-knot reading maintain that for now, while JMA has bumped it up to 115 knots. Pretty good prediction I'd say.--Jasper Deng (talk) 08:23, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
That is not a prediction, just a result of agencies’ habits. -- Meow 11:07, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Typhoon Hagupit external link

You've removed it twice. Please comment at Talk:Typhoon Hagupit (2014)#Animation sequence from the Hong Kong Observatory. Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:32, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Total death toll of Hagupit?

Hi, there. Just wondering, do we still follow NDRRMC to count death toll? I'm saying this because I've seen that Hagupit killed 27 in the 'Season effects' section in the 2014 PTS season and 21 killed in the Hagupit article, which both of them are different sources and different from NDRRMC. This is since NDRRMC reported that 8 were killed in their latest issue (09/12/2014). Although for the damages, there is no problem I could see right now. What do we do? Typhoon2013 (talk) 19:16, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

I always follow NDRRMC, as it is the only official source from the Philippines government. Other sources are not confirmed. -- Meow 04:53, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Ok, so should I say that the death toll so far by NDRRMC is 9, not 27? Typhoon2013 (talk) 19:43, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Maybe that would be better. I follow NDRRMC in Hagupit’s article anyway, and the amount is now at 11. -- Meow 19:49, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
I already did changed it hours ago and the same anon user is reverting me. Maybe me and you should watch this. Also I will also keep an eye on the issues by the NDRRMC and I started doing this since last year if you may notice. Typhoon2013 (talk) 07:43, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
I am now writing the meteorological history as I started to use Internet Archive to archive warnings, or readers will be waited too long. -- Meow 08:32, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Re: As of in analysis timeline

Wait, what did I do? Is it about the JTWC warning? Typhoon2013 (talk) 06:37, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

@Typhoon2013:
WTPN31 PGTW 290300 
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI// 
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING// 
RMKS/ 
1. TROPICAL STORM 23W (JANGMI) WARNING NR 005     
   01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN NORTHWESTPAC 
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE 
   WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY 
    --- 
   WARNING POSITION: 
   290000Z --- NEAR 8.8N 126.0E
Why would you want to use 03:00 instead of 00:00? -- Meow 06:41, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

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Dissipation

Actually the rule is when it is last noted, which in Jangmi's case is 18z on January 1 until BT confirms otherwise.Jason Rees (talk) 13:54, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

In the RSMC best track, dissipation and the last position could be different dates. -- Meow 13:57, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
When the BT comes out we will take the date of dissipation that they confirm, until then we will use the date it is last noted as otherwise it could be considered original research. This is consistent with other systems in other basins that are noted on one advisory at either 18z or 21z and not noted on subsequent advisories.Jason Rees (talk) 14:01, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
BTW I do not wish to see that you have been analysing any imagery to write up a summary, since not everyone has the knowledge or the skills to verify what your saying.Jason Rees (talk) 14:39, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Could you help?

Hi. Just wondering if it is appropriate to do a 'merging proposal' talk in Tropical Storm Jangmi (2014). If you agree, could you please help to invite users to participate on this topic since it is my first time to do this. Thanks. Typhoon2013 (talk) 03:29, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Request image deletion for: [wp0115.gif]

Hi there, again. I know it is a bit of a hard-work with a frustrated emotion, but I want to request an image deletion for that. This is since, our user who we're dealing with: Instalok has started to create Mekkhala's forecast track with 1.) wrong or missing image name, 2.) bad license stuff and 3.) it is making the "real" forecast track a bit hard to upload the next warning tracks since there are two images of the same file. This is why I hate these kind of users and it is actually ruining my holidays. I really have a mood on that guy, Instalok. Thanks. Typhoon2013 (talk) 09:59, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

You could request deletion or redirection. He/she should pay more attention on how editors participate here instead of making troubles. -- Meow 15:32, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I know right. Also, it's more worse, and I just noticed today. He made another file of the forecast track of Mekkhala! Although he put Day 6 in the end! I can't stand this anymore. It's like I want to block him immediately. Typhoon2013 (talk) 04:42, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Oh also how do I "request" a deletion or redirection? And to whom am I going to leave this message? Typhoon2013 (talk) 04:43, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
It is obviously vandalism, but I am not sure if he should be banned. I think he should be judged by administrators. -- Meow 07:28, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Well, let's observe him in the next several days. If he understands or improve articles, then we should ban him; if he still doesn't understand editing and Wikipeida, then that's the time we decide. But thank god he's not uploading images anymore! Typhoon2013 (talk) 09:22, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Instalok

Meow, I have been watching some of the edits that Instalok has made to the seasonal articles and i know its annoying but i really think that we should work with Instalok, rather than against him. Also personal attacks like this do not help and are just very annoying.Jason Rees (talk) 23:20, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Isn't it the only way to force him/her improving himself/herself? -- Meow 02:55, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
@Meow and Jason Rees: I have posted a more civil thread on the talk page. To "work with Instalok" means communication between us and him/her. My issue is that (s)he is not engaging in that and that's non-negotiable; we're a collaborative project and that concern does need to be addressed.--Jasper Deng (talk) 06:54, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
Meow: No its not the way to talk to volunteers especially youngsters we have to deal with since its demotivating, uncivil and turns wiki into a battleground. Jasper - I appreciate you posting a more civilised thread on the talkpage and will respond with my thoughts later.Jason Rees (talk) 14:10, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Cyclone comparison

I'm not sure that specific graphic you added to the cyclone article is a good comparison, mainly because the scale of both maps is different. There also doesn't seem to be any content in that section of the article to relate to the image. While it's a good idea, I think it needs more work. Thegreatdr (talk) 19:29, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

I have thought about that before uploading, but the tropical one would be too small to see. -- Meow 09:58, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Lam or Marcia?

I'm just asking which cyclone(s) are still active as of today. This site: http://www.webcitation.org/6VHQLi6YG says that Ex-Cyclone Lam is currently active. Although you said that Marcia is currrently active as well and does show on Marcia's track. Are they both active or which one? Typhoon2013 (talk) 02:41, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

What you gave is an outlook in January. As BoM still calls them ex-tropical cyclones now, they should be treated as still active, as they are de facto tropical lows with names. -- Meow 04:29, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for the info. :) Typhoon2013 (talk) 07:02, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
I think this will be one of those systems where a couple of dates are acceptable for the time being. I say this as i know ex tropical cyclones are also extratropical ones and that despite still being mentioned on the TWOs the BoM has issued the TCRs on both Lam and Marcia. However, only time will tell.Jason Rees (talk) 18:14, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
You can say that extratropical cyclones are ex-tropical cyclones, but ex-tropical cyclones are not extratropical cyclones. Please check the bulletins. -- Meow 01:02, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
I have been checking the bulletins Meow and i also know from experience of the region as a whole that the warning centres treat extratropical cyclones as ex-tropical cyclones when applicable.Jason Rees (talk) 14:51, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
It is not corrected. According to the BoM best track data, there has not been any extratropical cyclone for many years. In addition, the BoM never mentioned “extratropical” in all Marcia’s bulletins and outlooks. Ex-tropical cyclones do mean “former tropical cyclones” which are below the tropical cyclone intensity. -- Meow 14:57, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
I am not saying you are right or wrong on Marcia still being a tropical low, but just pointing out that ex tropical cyclone also means that it could be extratropical. This is especially true when i look back at Ita last year which became extratropical, if i had more time im sure i could dig up some more recent examples of systems becoming extratropical over the South Pacific.Jason Rees (talk) 15:13, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
I think I was talking about the Australian region not the South Pacific. -- Meow 06:03, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Remember that the Australian region from around 135E is the South Pacific Ocean.Jason Rees (talk) 12:10, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Sonamu

The way i understand it is that because Sonamu sounds like Tsuanmi, it caused panic in Malaysia which is why it was retired.Jason Rees (talk) 12:07, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

That is true, but you cannot say that STS Sonamu in 2013 is retired. -- Meow 12:10, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
I think we can though since it caused mass panic in Malaysia and is the reason the name was withdrawn.Jason Rees (talk) 12:11, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Re:Your impolite behaviour

In response to your allegation of improper behaviour, I do not constantly undo your edits but when you remove what is an extremely valid External Link for no reason what so ever then i will undo your edit. Sometimes we make mistakes when we undo them by replacing new information by old but thats your fault for removing the EL.Jason Rees (talk) 14:35, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

If that link must exist on the page, there should be at least hundreds of external links. -- Meow 14:43, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
While i am sure you could find a million external links that could be included, Metservice TV should remain since it is MetService's TV channel and an official source of information on #Pam. As im sure you are aware i think you are a good editor and i respect/thank you for your help with the current seasonal articles. Jason Rees (talk) 14:49, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
But the reality is that I never got respect from other editors of tropical cyclones. No matter how hard I try to write, all these articles are graded as C. -- Meow 13:35, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
You could GAN a bunch of them, for what it's worth :) I think you're a great editor, and I really appreciate what you do. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:40, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
I spend more time on updating tracks and writing articles. That GAN whatever must take much time to do. -- Meow 13:54, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
I totally understand. Your work is greatly valued, and I personally feel you are a vital part of our little community :-) Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 16:08, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
For the record and just generally talking most editors default assessment is C Class, as B class requires the addition of several parameters. We can not rate higher than a B (ie GA, A or FA) without going through either Good Article Nomination, A Class Review or Featured article candidates. As Hink and I both said we consider you a member of the team and appreciate your work.Jason Rees (talk) 20:18, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
All right. I will think about that in the future when I have more time. Thank you guys anyways. -- Meow 02:40, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Would you like to join the topic?

Hi Meow. It's been a long time. But I was just asking if you would like to join the topic: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tropical cyclones#PAGASA only-named storms with JTWC designations? It would be great if you would like to help. Thanks and have a great day! Typhoon2013 (talk) 23:23, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

I quit. -- Meow 10:59, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Hello Meow.

some data of the typhoon Noul, Maysak, etc ... altered after an interval . Can you tell me the source anywhere? I want to learn to them . Final-Fantasy-HH (talk) 17:24, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

@Final-Fantasy-HH: Talk:2015 Pacific typhoon season#RSMC Best Track Data contains the latest best track data. If it has not been updated, you could check the JMA or NOAA links within the section. The Japan Meteorological Agency website and Digital Typhoon update after that. -- Meow 17:29, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Meow very much. Final-Fantasy-HH (talk) 17:41, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

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About category 5 in South China Sea

... Can you tell me ?... how many category 5 typhoon in South China Sea ? Final-Fantasy-HH (talk) 05:53, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

I only know Rammasun in 2014 and there should not be another. -- Meow 09:53, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

I don't think so... because ... Typhoon Pamela appeared in 1954 also reached category 5, can you check it  ? Final-Fantasy-HH (talk) 15:22, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

The JTWC tended to overestimate storms in 1950s and 1960s. -- Meow 15:27, 25 July 2015

Ok !, thanks you vm, bro. Final-Fantasy-HH (talk) 06:04, 26 July 2015 (UTC) (UTC)

Distance

Just asking, are you following JTWC's advisories? Because in the current infobox of Halola and its distance it says Goto, but in JTWC's advisory it says Sasebo. Also JTWC uses nmi but you put km. So am I following the right agency (JTWC) for Halola's distance or not? Typhoon2013 (talk) 06:54, 26 July 2015 (UTC).

JMA’s Japanese warnings, as I can read some Japanese. -- Meow 07:01, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Ok, thank you. I'll leave the distance to you. Typhoon2013 (talk) 07:34, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Wait, wait, wait. I just had a thought... what if we put both distances (from JMA and JTWC) in the current infobox? I'll leave an example in the infobox right now. Typhoon2013 (talk) 07:37, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
That is okay. I remember that hurricane articles also use two distances. -- Meow 07:47, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

A cyclone "Katie" article?

Hi. I just found in Wikimedia Commons a sub-article about the '2015 Southeast Pacific cyclone' linked to the '2014-15 South Pacific cyclone season'. I also thought that this storm should be an article somewhere. Do you think this storm should be either in the 2014–15 South Pacific cyclone season, Tropical cyclogenesis#Elsehere or an article itself? Typhoon2013 (talk) 03:23 1 August 2015 (UTC).

We need to wait for SPEArTC. At least I have uploaded pictures and a track map for the system. -- Meow 04:56, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

"also known as" Philippine name typhoons

Why not also add it at the top of the article? Most of the other typhoon articles are sentenced like this. Also because Filipinos name and call the typhoons by the PAGASA name, they wouldn't much know about the International Names. So they need to know as well. However if we do not state that but only stated in at the top of the infobox, they will question themselves like "What is Goring? Is this what other people call it or is this the PAGASA name?". Typhoon2013 (talk) 04:22, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

We can describe the naming within the introduction for typhoons which do not affect the Philippines. If we add the phrase “also known as” to all typhoons which have a PAGASA name, readers will feel very confused. As Typhoon Halola never affected the Philippines, most of people in the Philippines do not know “Goring” at all. You should not use the phrase for a typhoon which is not known in the Philippines. -- Meow 05:09, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
So you are saying that we should not add this to a typhoon article of the typhoon did not affected the PHL? I kind of agree with you but if yes, how about if we also add the phrase if the typhoon is known (for example: Typhoon Soudelor (will be named soon) did not affect PHL but mostly everyone knows it, maybe because these people have been hearing the news and stuff and sharing it to other people). I know it's confusing.
Also who thought of doing that? The "also known as Typhoon ___ by the Philippines" one. Before it used to be "Intl designation: JTWC: -___, JMA: ___, PAGASA:____." Why don't we change it again to make it more easier? Typhoon2013 (talk) 07:13, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
We are writing an encyclopaedia, not a meteorological document. It doesn’t mean we will not mention the PAGASA name in the introduction; we just put it into a better position as it is not that important for typhoons not affecting the Philippines. I know you are from the Philippines, but we should not make readers feel confused. -- Meow 07:54, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Ok.So what do you want me to do with the other typhoon articles that says "also known as..."? Because I can start on it tomorrow.cTyphoon2013 (talk) 10:13, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
It is free to do it if they did not affect the Philippines. -- Meow 10:18, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

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Typhoon Soudelor

I'm at a total loss right now why you're claiming my edits are vandalism, and frankly I'm a little insulted. All I've done is provide a more informative lead for Soudelor which includes specifics on intensity, a landfall date in Saipan, and more streamlined writing. It falls in line with any other tropical cyclone article: not too detailed, not too skimpy. I just realized I accidentally excluded the newer sentence you added, and that was a mistake on my part, but that doesn't warrant undoing my version. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 04:58, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

You use mbar first instead of hPa in a typhoon article, and you deleted the part of Taiwan initially. What you said is like I meant to ignore Saipan, which somehow made me feel insulted. At least the issues can be solved easily now, but I cannot trust most of editors in the future. -- Meow 09:18, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
Using "mbar (hPa; inHg)" is standard format across all tropical cyclone articles, not sure what the issue is there. I didn't make any comments directed at people in my initial edit summary, it was simply "copyedit/expand", so there's nothing for you to take personally. I'm sorry if anything came off that way, but I can assure you I've simply just been editing to improve the article as always. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 09:23, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
mbar is only used by the United States now. All countries in East and Southeast Asia use hPa so using mbar may confuse people in typhoon aeticles. -- Meow 09:31, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
Ahh, I wasn't aware that hPa is used over mbar (even though they're interchangeable). It's worth bringing up on WP:WPTC since the "mbar (hPa; inHg)" style has been used across the entire project from the start. Would also need to change the infobox parameters to reflect this so the WPac/NIO subsets show hPa first. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 09:39, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
It used to be hPa for WPac/NOO subsets, but I do not know when it became mbar to all. I cannot fix it as I do not know how to do. -- Meow 11:07, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Spelling of Atsani

I spotted an error in Atsani's track map. It says Astani 2015 track, instead of Atsani 2015 track. Can you correct this please? Thanks. Typhoon2013 (talk) 20:56, 14 August 2015 (UTC).

Sorry I was too harsh to update two storms at the same time. I have corrected them all. Besides, why did my signature become yours? -- Meow 21:07, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing it. Sorry by the way about the signature, I was too harsh as well updating and uploading things in the same time. Typhoon2013 (talk) 21:16, 14 August 2015 (UTC).

Get off my talk page

Hey. I found that my edit to the article was wrong and self-reverted. You do not need to dog me about it. I see a lack of assumption of good faith here. I am also wrong in citing TPG (clicked "save" before I realized) when removing your latest comment from my talk page, however I am still permitted to remove threads from it, and ask that you stop posting there; if you do not treat me with the respect you want from me, I don't feel like returning the favor.

I'm not interested in picking a fight. But I'm getting annoyed here.--Jasper Deng (talk) 09:58, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

All right I didn’t find that you have reverted back. I apologise. -- Meow 10:02, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
In general I would like to see myself treated civilly and with assumption of good faith in the future. Even if I didn't self-revert, you would've done well to first review things like Wikipedia:Don't template the regulars, Wikipedia:Don't poke the bear, and WP:NOTVAND, the last of which is policy. But anyways, I accept your apology and hope this can be laid to rest. You're again welcome to post on my talk page in the future if you can address my feedback on this.--Jasper Deng (talk) 10:07, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm going to remind you again of WP:NOTVAND. Sorry for the mistake but you're really being toxic about it.--Jasper Deng (talk) 19:07, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

It shows that you do not trust what I edited, which is harmful. -- Meow 19:11, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
That's a necessary but not sufficient criterion for vandalism. Please re-read the policy because vandalism must've been deliberate. This error was on accident.--Jasper Deng (talk) 19:14, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Dissipation date for storms

According to the JMA weather map analysis Vamco is still active, however in its text, it didn't state the TD which was the former Vamco, so I decided to put its dissipation date to the 15th. 2 months ago, when a TD dissipated, someone said we follow text if it dissipated or formed. Well at least it is likely that Vamco's dissipation date will be today (September 15). Typhoon2013 (talk) 19:33, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

I do not know who made that decision, but JMA just simply does not mention tropical depressions overland in Indochina within their high seas report. -- Meow 20:25, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
I made the decision because of WP:Verification as we can not verify the information on the JMA weather map since its not archived by anyone.Jason Rees (talk) 22:23, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
At least we got BT Datas, right? Typhoon2013 (talk) 04:25, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
I have been archiving all JMA weather maps since November 2012. -- Meow 05:11, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Meow. I renamed the section if OK because we got another same problem. According to JMA (analysis + weather maps), Dujuan fully dissipated or weakened to a LPA on 30/09. However @Supportstorm: said that Dujuan dissipated on 29/09 because JMA issued its final advisory. If you look at JMA weather maps in the last 24hrs, it clearly states a TD overland in China and that was the last time it was mentioned. Typhoon2013 (talk) 07:06, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

If you review JMA’s Japanese weather maps at 06Z, 09Z and 12Z on 30 September 2015 carefully, you will find that a tropical depression accelerates northeastwards near a stationary front and eventually becomes an extratropical low embedded in that stationary front. Thus, Dujuan did not weaken into a low-pressure area in the end. This dispute should be on-hold until Dujuan’s best track data releases in November. -- Meow 07:50, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Yes we should wait. However how about now? Did Dujuan dissipated in the 30th or the 29th? Typhoon2013 (talk) 09:29, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
I archive all JMA weather maps since November 2012, but I am not sure if Wikipedia allows me to cite them. If it is not allowed, the date should be remained as September 29. -- Meow 10:41, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Moving categories

Hi. I just wanted to know how do you move categories in Wikimedia commons? Typhoon2013 (talk) 10:25, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

I move one by one. 😹 -- Meow 11:04, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Renaming images

Hi again. How do you rename images? Because my plan was when I upload geostationary images, I upload them immediately when the storm is designated and is named as __ (designation) Geostationary VIS-IR 2015.png . However if that storm becomes a named storm the file name needs to change to its name. I don't know if 26W is going to be In-fa, but I wanted to upload its geostationary image to reveal its image. Typhoon2013 (talk) 03:15, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Couldn’t you request renaming in Wikimedia Commons? -- Meow 03:19, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Wait. So we have to request in renaming images? I thought we can rename ourselves? Typhoon2013 (talk) 03:45, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
As we are not administrators. -- Meow 04:14, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

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My edit to 2015 North Indian Ocean cyclone season

Hi Meow, I don't understand why you said my edit to this page was not constructive. I said that everything in that box was already in current storm information. Why does it also have to be in a seperate box? Please reply quickly. Thanks, 50.141.29.3 (talk) 09:45, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

People can read it quicker and it is the custom in the English Wikipedia. If you believe this is unnecessary, please talk about this in the WikiProject. Besides, you did put the wrong timestamp to the section. -- Meow 09:49, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
Okay, I get it. Thanks for informing me. - 50.141.29.3 (talk) 09:55, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

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Hello Meow.

Hello. Nice Sig.. very similar to mine!Meow!! 23:42, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

@PhantomMeep: Yet I am the true Meow. -- Meow 13:31, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

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Luma

Thank you for making a summary of your revert about subtropical cyclone Luma. The reason why I renamed the section and intensities as "Subtropical Storm", is that it says on its information. However before making this talk message to you, I changed the term in its section to "Subtropical Depression", as shown in the View history box of the article. I do not know who made/added these sentences (especially in a GA article!), but it may confuse people and cause some conflict. I may be misunderstood, though. But still, you're kind of right, MFR only classifies Subtropical depressions (not Subtropical storms). Typhoon2013 (talk) 06:52, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Editors are familiar with the NHC classes, so they tend to prefer subtropical storm or subtropical cyclone in this basin. -- Meow 11:19, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
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