User talk:Mr.Z-man/Archive 15

Qatar Pro Wrestling

Hi, not that it matters, but this probably should have closed Keep. The reason is LM2000 presented 4 new sources in the middle of the AfD. No one gave reason why they should be discarded from consideration. In fact, they were confirmed by another editor as being good. As such the arguments were in favor of Keep since there are multiple reliable sources per GNG. It was up to the Deletes to give reason why those sources should not be used and they never did, there was no debate over the sources. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 05:47, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Same situation at The Young Muslims UK .. many sources were found at Google Books (so many it wasn't worth linking directly but I should have). The editor who said merge discarded over 20 sources in academic books for no apparent reason, saying "besides Google Books there are no sources". Like saying "besides the NYT, WaPo, LATimes and WSJ.. there are no sources". The article was shown to meet GNG, no one really successfully countered the sources. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 06:00, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

The outcome was the same. Someone still has to go incorporate those sources in the article. Also, saying "a lot of hits in Google Books" is basically WP:GHITS. Unless it's actually in the title of the book, all that you can tell by search results is that a book has at least a brief mention. At some point you still need to actually show significant coverage. Mr.Z-man 13:26, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Sources need to be shown not incorporated (AFDNOTCLEANUP). I don't normally say "google hits" but this case was unique. Only if one didn't do the Google Books search would it not be obvious about the sources. --Green Cardamom (talk) 16:06, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

I didn't mean they needed to be put in to be valid. What I was trying to politely imply was that improving the articles so that they don't get nominated again (by putting in the sources) would probably be a more productive endeavor than an academic discussion about the finer points of AFD arguments. It seems like kind of a waste to look up sources to get the article kept, but then leave it unsourced (as is the case for QPW) once the AFD is over. Mr.Z-man 16:11, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Shar Jackson

I'm suspecting sockpuppetry on this page. I see the patterns in the history log, and I'm sure it's the same person. But I can't adequately prove it. --George Ho (talk) 22:18, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

It's almost certainly the same person. But it looks like just a mobile network. The IPs are all owned by Verizon. I believe the smallest range necessary to block all of the ones seen to date would be 2600:100C:b000::/38 (but I'm not that familiar with ipv6). What kind of collateral damage that would cause I have no idea. Mr.Z-man 00:55, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

No semi-protection needed then? George Ho (talk) 03:16, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Alan Byrne

Hi, I have only just noticed that you have deleted the page for Alan Byrne. He has played in the Europa League against Malmo for Drogheda United. http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/cooke-incredibly-proud-as-drogheda-push-malmo-hard-29414411.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidDublin (talk • contribs) 16:37, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

The article was deleted after a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Shiels. According to Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues, the League of Ireland is not a fully professional league, which is required for notability using the WP:NFOOTBALL guideline. Mr.Z-man 17:34, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Page view data

Hey Mr Z. I am wondering if there are problems with the page view data per [1] Thanks Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 05:22, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Any more thoughts on [2]? Does it have anything to do with stuff moving from toolserver to labs? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 10:55, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Looks like you figured it out. Know what needs to be done to fix it? More power? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 23:23, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, and facilitation idea

Dear Z-man,

Thanks for your thoughtful contributions on WP:Conflict of interest limit. I wonder if a small group of thoughtful people might facilitate drafting a better, focused version of a paid-advocacy guideline/policy. You and CorporateM have both written eloquently about why one may be needed (basic game theory; and many of those covered by it will want to abide by it) and why it should be narrowly defined.

One of the reasons the proposals to date haven't been very good, I think, is that they have been drafted by people who want the COI guideline itself to be stricter - something for which there is no consensus (and many arguments against). Regards, – SJ + 01:53, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	Thanks for coming up with all those suggestions for Jakebot. I'll look into them tonight or tomorrow morning. --Jakob (talk) 21:13, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

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Your userfy page

Darrin asked if you could remove his name from your list. Would you mind, please? Guy (Help!) 22:24, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

I just deleted the page. I forgot it even existed. Mr.Z-man 22:31, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Problems installing closeAFD.js

Hi. I'm trying to install your closeAFD.js script. I have added importScript('User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD.js'); to User:RoySmith/vector.js and cleared my browser cache, but I don't see the additional tabs. I'm using Chrome Version 32.0.1700.102 on a Mac. Any ideas what I might be doing wrong? -- RoySmith (talk) 00:43, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Hmmm, I see I've got close and relist items in a dropdown menu text to my Twinkle menu! -- RoySmith (talk) 01:20, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Followup to our discussion at the RFC

I just wanted to stop by and let you know, that I'm glad to see you support reviewing the blocks, I also agree a lot of these need to be reevaluated and many need to be droppped. I am also not an advocate for a block lasting longer than 3-6 months. Even in extreme situations it shouldn't be more than a year. I just can't vote because I am an IP and I abandoned my username because I got fed up with all the us and them mentality between the Arbcom, the WMF, Admins, editors and IP's. Everyone is fighting everyone else and there isn't any end in sight. That is along with the admins abusing their tools and nothing being done about it (a minority of them I admit but a problem none the less) and a vairety of other problems with this place that are only getting worse as time goes on. Good luck and happy editing. 138.162.8.59 (talk) 19:27, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Wilhelm Zahn DYK

Hi Mr.Z-man. Sorry for the trouble but my Wilhelm Zahn DYK did not get the stats because the day it appeared stats.grok was not working. I saw however the tool you created which shows 6,849 hits for the article in December. The date is off however. It shows the stats for 13 December but the article was created later than that and the DYK was on the 31st of December. The question is: is there any explanation for the 6,849 figure and is there any chance it can be used for the DYK? Thank you for your time. Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις} 04:39, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

December 31 DYK figures are not available for articles after TNZ in the alphabet at stats.grok.se — Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs)

That's December 2013, not December 13, my tool only aggregates by month. Mr.Z-man 05:54, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

I see. Thank you very much Mr.Z-man. Take care. Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις} 14:17, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Question about the "popular pages" system

Hello Mr.Z-man

I am a sysop on the fr.wikipédia. At the moment, the project:Football doesn't understand how the statistic is done for the fooball pages in french.

Actually, 18 of the 24 first pages are taken by the Monaco players, even some completly unknown. What is the reality ?

Best regards Matpib (talk) 13:22, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

I don't maintain the frwiki lists, but it looks like other pageview tools are reporting similar results. As Queix suggested, it may be a bot visiting the pages for some reason [3] also shows an unusually large number of views, just at fr.wikipedia. It seems to have started back in May 2005. If you compare the the hits per day for Andrea Raggi and Nacer Barazite, you can see they are nearly identical, which suggests some sort of automated process. Mr.Z-man 03:53, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer. Matpib (talk) 10:08, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Update to Jan

This has not been updated to Jan yet [4] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 01:42, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

The short answer is: I know, it's not going to because I'm moving the tool to Labs. The long answer will be in a message to all the projects signed up in a day or 2. Mr.Z-man 04:06, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Edit filter and Mr.Z-bot

Before I go any further, I should be clear that I am not here to complain about your bot. I'm just trying to understand how things work.

I was puzzled to see the recent additions by Mr.Z-bot to WP:AIV. If these have been archived, check this version.

On investigation, the problems seem to be down to the edit filter, rather than the bot. But I don't know the best way to fix the filter or get it fixed.

The first case (209.134.43.95) seems a simple one of a couple of false positives by the filter.

The second case (163.6.158.245) is weird. Filters have been set off 21 times by two edits.

Or... is it the case that the filter prevented the offending edits, leaving me only able to see the non-offending ones.

Please excuse my ignorance of how the edit filter works.

Yaris678 (talk) 22:14, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

In the second case, yes, only 2 of the edits actually went through. There isn't really a place to report false positives other than ones involving your own edits, Wikipedia talk:Edit filter is probably as good a place as any. Mr.Z-man 04:05, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the info.

Also I've just worked out that the link I posted above doesn't help because Mr.Z-bot posted in a transcluded page. In case you haven't worked it out already, the actual posts are here. Yaris678 (talk) 18:04, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Courtesy notice

Hi Mr Z-man. This is a courtesy note to let you know I indirectly mentioned you at ANI. The thread is at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive830#Popular pages tool update fail?. Best, -- Diannaa (talk) 15:18, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Thank you for maintaining the Popular Pages tool. It is extremely motivating to me to be able to see this information for WikiProject Medicine. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:49, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Popular pages listing

Hello! As you might recall I'm working under WP:ANATOMY and we're trying to get the popular pages listing working; you mentioned on the village pump to contact you near the end of the month, and here I am! I hope we can get this off the ground soon; kind regards, --LT910001 (talk) 02:46, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder. As far as the data collection goes, everything seems to be working smoothly (well, on my end at least). The web tools on Labs are still a bit behind. I've gone ahead and added WP:ANATOMY manually; the web tool for adding new projects is my current project and should be online in a week or 2. Access to historical data (back to 2009) will probably be another 3-4 weeks. I'll have the bot send out an update to all projects with more details later.

The data for WP:ANATOMY will be at Wikipedia:WikiProject Anatomy/Popular pages. Please don't create the page in advance or it will confuse the bot. Once it's added in a week or so, you can add any categories or templates to the header section. Mr.Z-man 20:31, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! --LT910001 (talk) 00:53, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Economics

Greeting Mr. Z-man, I'm contacting you regarding the possibly of the WikiProject Economics getting a 'Popular pages' page set up. Thanks in advance. Jonpatterns (talk) 11:22, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Dear @Mr.Z-man: just wondered if you had noted my earlier message. Regards Jonpatterns (talk) 20:36, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

 Done Mr.Z-man 03:08, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Other languages

Is the ability to add other languages coming soon? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 16:37, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

It's something that I'd like to do, but haven't really started it yet. Mr.Z-man 23:20, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Anything I can do to help you with it? I would love to have popular page lists for medical articles in each language. Have been working with User:West.andrew.g to gather numbers already but a monthly update would be amazing. We should be able to template all medical articles using a bot based on interlanguage links to form the categories. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 22:25, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Popular Pages request

Hi Mr.Z-Man, Is it possible to add Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Women's football task force and Wikipedia:WikiProject Women's sport to the Popular Pages bot? Thank you. Hmlarson (talk) 22:31, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Please disregard request. Found the new sign up page. Thank you!! Hmlarson (talk) 22:36, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject xxxxxx/Popular pages‎

Any chance you can change the sort so that importance is actually by importance rather then the names? So 'Top' would be first and 'Low' last, well unknown last? Vegaswikian (talk) 22:09, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Not easily. At least not easily for me. I just use the standard {{importance}} template, so the change would probably have to be made there. Mr.Z-man 22:57, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

November?

Re popular pages, your tag at the top refers to November - is that 2013 or 2014?

This is a great tool - amazing that noone thought of it before. I'd like to request the addition of WP:IPCOLL and WP:PPAL to the waiting list once it's reopened. Regards, Oncenawhile (talk) 20:34, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Um, I think it was originally 2012. I'm a bit behind schedule. The new project request thing should be available in the next couple of weeks. Mr.Z-man 21:13, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Mr Z man, i'm just checking back in after a couple of weeks. Will there be some kind of notification when the project request tool is up and running? I have your talkpage on my watchlist. Oncenawhile (talk) 20:22, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

It's working now here. Mr.Z-man 03:11, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Many thanks! Oncenawhile (talk) 04:52, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Alex, just a quick note:

1. This list appears to be 2.5 years out of date. Also the banner on the top (also at http://toolserver.org/~alexz/pop/) still refers to the mystical "November"
2. Your tools are outstandingly useful - thanks for all the hard work
3. I made a suggestion re one of your tools at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab)#Update_graph_technology_on_page_history_external_tools; I hope that's ok

Oncenawhile (talk) 22:07, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

The stuff on the Toolserver will all be redirected to Labs soon, so I'm not bothering to update them. I'll comment on the VP thread. Mr.Z-man 23:17, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Just a note to say thanks again for your help with all of this - it's an excellent tool and your work is greatly appreciated. Oncenawhile (talk) 16:12, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Popular pages curiosity

The results for Wikipedia:WikiProject Ireland/Popular pages do not display the final 60 entries, out of 1500, properly. The article assessment and importance don't show up. They are blank and instead, in the "Views" column, there are two links to "Template:Class" and "Template:Importance" but no values. Curious. Is this an anomaly or an error? Thanks ww2censor (talk) 18:30, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

It's hitting one of MediaWiki's template limits, the Post-expand include size limit. Other pages have the same problem. Once I get the interface done on Labs to edit the configuration for a project, I'll reduce all the ones set to 1500. Mr.Z-man 18:46, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Popular pages configuration

I tried to add project using [5], but after filling all items and submitting i get just "MySQL error" (unfortunately nothing more specific). --Jklamo (talk) 17:50, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Should be working now. Thanksfor the report. Mr.Z-man 19:29, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Can you add WP:BARD and WP:CBBALL?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 09:10, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for adding these.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:03, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Mr.Z-man. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Bot requests.
Message added 23:48, 9 March 2014 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

N2e (talk) 23:48, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Bing link for geophotoreq?

Hi there A minor little feature request for geophotoreq - could you provide a link to send the KML file to eg http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?mapurl=http://tools.wmflabs.org/geophotoreq/kml/20140217111111.kml ? Bing has the big advantage in the UK of having an Ordnance Survey layer, which can be considered an RS for locations whereas Google Maps is decidedly dodgy in its labelling. On an unrelated note, I don't know if you've come across http://wikilocation.org/ but you might find it a useful API for something or other. Le Deluge (talk) 22:44, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm looking into alternate map services. Any thoughts on OpenStreetMap? Mr.Z-man 23:20, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

From what I can see OSM doesn't have any particular advantage for my purposes and to be honest I don't particularly enjoy using it and its derivatives like Kolossus' wiki layer for it, but can see how it's A Good Thing in principle. Since Google dropped the wiki layer I've been using a mix of Kolossus and geonames.org (and now that it works properly on my phone, Special:Nearby is useful for finding articles needing photos "in the field") but neither quite do it for me. That's why I've started doing my own version of geophotoreq for private use, which I don't mind leaving to run for a while if it can analyse the article text to reject photos in templates and something that plagues UK articles, low res photos from Geograph. I've even worked out a way in principle of analysing existing photos for blue sky, everywhere looks better in the sun!!!! I've not got there yet, I'm just generating basic article lists so far.Le Deluge (talk) 17:05, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Please explain this mysterious report to AIV

It is not clear what edit triggered this apparently erroneous report on AIV. The explanation "You may not view details of this filter because it is hidden from public view." is not satisfactory and is frankly insulting. Please justify this bot's actions. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 18:28, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

The edit is available in the "details" link, which I beleive is always available even if the filter itself is marked private. Since I didn't actually write the filter and it's a rather long filter, I don't know what specifically triggered it. It's a filter designed to catch spam, and the edit was a rather spammily-written userspace draft, so it's not particuarly suprising it tripped the filter. That filter is primarily maintained by User:NawlinWiki, if you want someone else to complain to. But because the filter looks for specific keywords, making it public means it would be trivial for spammers to circumvent it. Mr.Z-man 18:49, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Possibilities for searching for specific opera articles

There's a wonderful reporting system now! Bravi!! However, is it/will it be possible to enter an opera article's title and obtain info on the "hits" it has received??? This is a very valuable project - and thanks! Viva-Verdi (talk) 22:58, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

A tool to get data for individual articles is currently in development. Mr.Z-man 02:19, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

@Viva-Verdi: - This tool is now operational - example. Mr.Z-man 19:37, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Many thanks!! This will be a wonderful tool to use!! Viva-Verdi (talk) 20:47, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Iran

Hi, would please make popular pages for Wikipedia:WikiProject Iran. thank you for your time Yamaha5 (talk) 12:31, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Special:ListGroupRights

Hi Mr.Z-man, Saw a long time ago you worked on the header for this page, do you know if there is a mediawiki page for the content? (Please reply on my talk). Thanks! — xaosflux ^Talk 04:11, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

BOT Request

Hi Mr.Z-man, I have requested for a bot to cleanup the Tamil wiki articles, I didn't get any reply regarding the same, to whom I can approach for the same? Thanks!--Dineshkumar Ponnusamy (talk) 09:42, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

All you can really do is ask again and hope for a better response. You could also look through the list of bots to see if there's a similar one, then ask the operator. The list is out-of-date and incomplete though. Mr.Z-man 18:22, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

About half of articles missing from 'popular pages'

This new system is much easier to use! That said some articles under WP:ANATOMY's scope appear to be missing.

I was getting a preview of our (WP:ANATOMY) next month results here: [6], however there is a sudden decrease from 5,000 pages in the March report ([7]) to 3,000 pages in the April report. 'On the ground' there hasn't actually been any change in the number of pages under WP:ANATOMY, which (roughly) should at least be 4,500 (see here: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Anatomy#Project_assessment). Is something strange going on? --LT910001 (talk) 00:45, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

This issue appears to have resolved. --LT910001 (talk) 08:56, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Change Parameters for Wikiproject Morocco

Hello, I recently added a request through the web tool for WP Morocco, I'd like to change the parameter for the number of articles shown to the default 500. If I remember correctly, I've set it to 50, which I now think is too low. Could you change that to 500 please? --Tachfin (talk) 11:32, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

 Done Mr.Z-man 02:20, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

@Mr.Z-man: Thanks!! --Tachfin (talk) 17:30, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

closeAFD stopped relisting

In the past week, closeAFD has lost the ability to relist. Here's a sample of what I'm seeing after selecting relist from the dropdown menu:

Relisting Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clinton Family Portrait

Old log:

New log: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2014 February 12

And here's what I see if I go ahead and click Submit:

• Got Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clinton Family Portrait
• Getting

Nothing happens after that point.

The failure occurs in both Firefox (encumbered by various extensions) and Safari (clean as installed).

Thanks. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 21:17, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

• Not working for me either, in Firefox or Chrome. Note that the Old log field is coming back blank. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:23, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

This is a result of bugzilla:61953. Mr.Z-man 15:56, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Since it doesn't look like this is coming back any time soon, would it be possible to at least have a field to manually enter the old/new log URLs so the tool can still do the heavy lifting? (Also, FWIW, the tool used to leave the old log field blank in the past occasionally, but I never knew why. It does work occasionally now, but refreshing the page appears to do little towards making the tool catch.)  czar ♔ 22:49, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

If you do a null edit on the log page, that may fix it for all AFDs on that day. I've actually been rewriting the script. The rewrite is basically done, but not well-tested. If you want to try it, just change "User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD.js" to "User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD2.js" in your JS page. It's mostly just less-horrible code, but it has a few minor improvements too - it can handle AFDs of multiple articles and it uses the {{Old AfD multi}} template. You may want to spot check the edits it does just to make sure it's working. And then report any bugs to me. It will still have the same problems with relisting though. Mr.Z-man 23:15, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Null edit did the trick (which is strange, because I was manually relisting for the past few days and those edits didn't help). Also trying your new tool and will give feedback if I see anything. Thanks for all your work! czar ♔ 23:31, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

That is really weird, but yeah, null edit is working for me there as well. --j⚛e decker^talk 17:26, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Same deal here. I've been seeing this a lot with Chrome. Most recently on Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Munyaradzi_Diya, and the null edit trick solved the problem. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:01, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

closeAFD feedback

Noticed that the bolded summary when closing capitalizes the "K" in "keep", which I believe is different. Intentional? czar ♔ 22:18, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

• CloseAFD2 looks quite nice, but (on my laptop, at least) still has problems with relists barring a nul edit. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 18:21, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
• Looks like it's having trouble finding the top of the talk page when closing [8] czar ♔ 03:46, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
• It's also using the wrong date for merge tags: [9] czar ♔ 04:28, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
• Reporting an error on v2 when closing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yale Insights czar ♔ 22:11, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Add a project to the stats

Hi, I want to add Wikipedia:WikiProject Horse racing to the list that generates most popular articles, but when I follow the directions on your page, I get a weird message asking for MY info. Something doesn't feel right. Can you add the above project to the list? We have over 9,000 articles tagged for the project and no idea what is popular or not. Montanabw^(talk) 18:23, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment

Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Hello Mr. Z-man, I have a question about a page you have deleted in the past. I am about to add a page about the same company, and I was wondering if there is a way to send it for your pre-approval to make sure it won't get deleted again. Thank you! SEO Twist (talk) 19:11, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

WP:AIV

Please check your bot, this listing of a user building a draft does not appear to be obvious and persistent vandalism. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:15, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Also this listing. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:23, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

I do not design or maintain the edit filters. The bot simply reports certain filter hits to AIV. There is nothing I can do on the bot end to reduce false positives. If there is an error with the filters, please report it to the people who maintain them or remove the filter from the list the bot watches. Mr.Z-man 14:34, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

I agree you do not maintain the filter; the filters perform a specific task and there is a process to fix them. However, the reports to WP:AIV are not a result of the filter, but of your bot being in operation. Every time you add false positives to AIV, you are creating additional work for others. Since your bot has been running, have you been able to determine the false positive ratio (e.g. Reports to AIV that did NOT result in a block being issued)? It could be that I came along during a rare FP occurrence streak. — xaosflux ^Talk 17:46, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm not really sure what you want me to do. If the bot could detect vandalism better than the filters, then we could just use the bot's logic in the filter, or just use the bot. But since the bot uses the filter results, the process to fix false positive AIV reports is the same process for fixing the filters. I could just shut the bot down, would that be better? Mr.Z-man 19:34, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

I don't think shutdown is needed, would you have any support of additional thresholds in your User:Mr.Z-bot/filters.js configuration (currently immediate, >9/600s)? — xaosflux ^Talk 21:32, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

It wouldn't be too difficult to add, but I'm not really sure how much that would help. Filters like #16 already have rate limits built in to them. Given that many of the filters block edits from going through, FP reports to AIV would seem to be the lesser of the problems. Legitimate edits being blocked is a more serious issue. Mr.Z-man 03:45, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Toolserver

Hi, thanks for your contribution over these years. I want to ask, if your toolserver shut indefinetely or for brief period of time? Or did it got replaced by something else?--Yacatisma (talk) 10:42, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

A table showing the old Toolserver tool and its replacement

I started this table, and was wondering if you'd be so kind as to help fill it in a bit.

Link: Wikipedia:Wikimedia Labs/Toolserver replacements

Name	Toolserver	Wmflabs replacement (or other tool)	Notes
Admin score tool	tools:~snottywong/adminscore.html	toollabs:jackbot/snottywong/adminscore.html toollabs:apersonbot/aadminscore/	For the jackbot version, as the complete counter systematically times out, it only calculates five of 11 criteria.
Admin stats	tools:~vvv/adminstats.php	toollabs:xtools/adminstats/
Blockrange calculator	tools:~chm/blockcalc.php	toollabs:blockcalc/ Alternate tool: Template:Blockcalc	Automatically redirects.
Citegen	tools:~citegen/
CheckUsage	tools:~daniel/WikiSense/CheckUsage.php	toollabs:wikisense/CheckUsage.php	Redirects to an RIP message stating the tool is defunct and will not be recreated.
Dablinks	tools:~dispenser/view/Dablinks	http://dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/view/Dablinks	Used on Template:DYK tools Toolserver account blocked Aug 27, 2014
Dab solver	tools:~dispenser/view/Dab_solver	http://dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/view/Dab_solver	Toolserver account blocked Aug 27, 2014
Duplication detector	tools:~dcoetzee/duplicationdetector/	toollabs:dupdet/	Maintainer Dcoetzee was banned from Wikimedia. Tool is still accessible and functional (Dec 12, 2014).
Earwig's Copyvio Detector	tools:~earwig/copyvios	toollabs:copyvios	Automatically redirects.
FIST	tools:~magnus/fist.php	toollabs:fist/fist.php	Automatically redirects.
Flickr2Commons (Bryan's)	tools:~bryan/flickr/upload
Flickr2Commons	tools:~magnus/flickr2commons.php	toollabs:flickr2commons/
Interaction analyzer and Stalker	tools:~snottywong/editorinteract.html tools:~mzmcbride/stalker/	toollabs:sigma/editorinteract.py
Log actions	tools:~dungodung/cgi-bin/recentlogs?	toollabs:rightstool/cgi-bin/recentlogs	From the RfA toolbox
Meta rights log	tools:~dungodung/cgi-bin/rightslogsearch?	toollabs:rightstool/cgi-bin/rightslogsearch	From the RfA toolbox
NAC of AfD's	tools:~snottywong/cgi-bin/afdadminstats.cgi?	https://tools.wmflabs.org/jackbot/snottywong/cgi-bin/afdadminstats.cgi?	From the RfA toolbox
New page patrol report	tools:~snottywong/cgi-bin/patrolreport.cgi	toollabs:jackbot/snottywong/cgi-bin/patrolreport.cgi
Reflinks	tools:~dispenser/view/Reflinks	http://dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/view/Reflinks toollabs:refill/index.php Another choice may be Wikipedia:Vada. Seems to do this.	See here for status updates. Toolserver account blocked Aug 27, 2014
Shootme	tools:~magnus/wikishootme/	toollabs:wikishootme//index.html	Automatically redirects.
Show redirects only	tools:~dispenser/cgi-bin/rdcheck.py/	http://dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/cgi-bin/rdcheck.py	Link on Special:WhatLinksHere, redirects to a connection timed out message. Toolserver account blocked Aug 27, 2014
Sortable article history	tools:~daniel/WikiSense/Contributors.php	toollabs:xtools/articleinfo/	Automatically redirects.
User rights	tools:~dungodung/cgi-bin/userrights?	toollabs:rightstool/cgi-bin/userrights Can be handled by the link at the bottom of the user contribs link: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&limit=1	From the RfA toolbox
Watcher	tools:~dispenser/cgi-bin/watcher.py	http://dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/view/Watcher The "Page information" link in the sidebar box titled "tools" handles this.	Labs missing required database views Toolserver account blocked Aug 27, 2014
Webchecklinks	tools:~dispenser/view/Checklinks	http://dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/view/Checklinks	Used on Template:DYK tools Automatically redirects Toolserver account blocked Aug 27, 2014

Other replacements

A replacement for http://stats.grok.se/ can now be found at toollabs:pageviews.

Notes

If it exists already somewhere, please say and I'll delete it. Many thanks, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:47, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

AFD script

I am posting here because there does not seem to be much sign that you monitor User talk:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD and I have made a comment there I wanted to draw to your attention. Forgive me if you do watchlist it and this message turns out to be spam. SpinningSpark 10:06, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Another issue added at User talk:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD#Relisting comments. SpinningSpark 11:18, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Template:Infobox non-profit

Template:Infobox non-profit has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox organization. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:20, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

AfD script/redirect

I got called out, appropriately, for forgetting to categorize redirects after closing AfDs, what do you think about adding something like \n{{uncat}} to the redirect you create when an AfD is closed redirect or merge? The hope is that this would allow for quicker correction. --j⚛e decker^talk 18:06, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Article hits for WP:RPG

Mr.Z-man, would you be willing and able to create an Article hits page for Wikipedia:WikiProject Role-playing games? BOZ (talk) 04:18, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

I saw your FAQ, so I put in a request for it; if I did it correctly, then nevermind.  :) BOZ (talk) 19:51, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Request: detecting surges in page views

Dear Mr Z man, Would it be possible to add a feature to the popular pages tool that would flag pages which receive surges in page views? Say if they received 50 times more views than they had the previous month. I work with Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Chemistry and we see surges like this nearly every month. Normally it's caused by some sort of health scare, which as you can imagine results in all manner questionable edits. If the chemical involved is obscure it may not be on anyone's watchlist in which case we normally fail to react in time. Project Osprey (talk) 17:42, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Would you want something that just flags it as part of the monthly reports, or something more "real time"? Mr.Z-man 17:57, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Well, obviously the more real-time the system the more potentially useful - but you can go too far with that. Too sensitive and you have to start thinking about things like cool-down times between alerts, excessive server use etc. Also, beyond a certain point I expect we're talking about a whole new tool rather than just a new feature - and I wouldn't want to burden you in that way. A monthly feature would, I hope, be fairly easy to add; so perhaps we could start with that as a trial and see how well it works. Unless you think the system could be pushed further than that without undue bother? Not being familiar with its inner workings I'll have to defer to your judgement on that. Project Osprey (talk) 19:20, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Mobile

Hey Mr. Z Wondering when mobile is going to be added to your lists? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 03:56, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

RfC

As you participated in a previous related discussion you are invited to comment at Wikipedia:Administrators/RfC for an Admin Review Board. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:56, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

It is possible?

It is possible that you modify your valuable tool http://tools.wmflabs.org/geophotoreq/ to query image needs for another wikipedias?? Or even better, wikidata item? --Ninovolador (talk) 23:48, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts/CloseAFD#question

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts/CloseAFD#question. Please also see the subsequent sections. Thanks. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 00:41, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

AFD script bug

This happened today. Thought you'd be interested czar ♔ 02:47, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

@Czar: As well as this. I think I have fixed it. Altamel (talk) 03:01, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

• I was alerted about another apparent bug on my talk page (here). --Randykitty (talk) 15:03, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

• Found another CloseAfD2 bug. Also noticed that the script is tagging the talk pages beneath the WikiProject templates instead of above czar ⨹ 19:21, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
• Not sure if it's due to the recent changes, but I'm no longer able to close as redirect/merge/other. For the former two, I don't get the fill-in field anymore after selecting that option. And with "other", the fill-in field is not editable upon selecting "other". Easy fix? czar ⨹ 21:04, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
  • This should be fixed now. Mr.Z-man 03:33, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

RefToolbar 2.0 in Spanish Wikipedia

Hello, Mr.Z-man.

I am trying to implement the RefToolbar 2.0 on Spanish Wikipedia, but there are some issues. Several messages are displayed properly, in Spanish, but other ones in English, despite having been translated here (for example, cite-form-showhide).

What is the problem? Regards, and thanks in advance. --abián 15:44, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

@Abián: In es:MediaWiki:RefToolbar.js, in the section that begins with

// Load local data - messages, cite templates, etc.

you need to add a part to load the Spanish messages

     case 'es':
     importScript('MediaWiki:RefToolbarMessages-es.js');
     break;

before or after (or in place of) the German one. Mr.Z-man 16:53, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

 Done, tested and working. Thank you! --abián 17:36, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

autopatrol?

The autopatrol script that you (I think it was you) wrote for me - it doesn't seem to be working. Could you take a look? Thanks. DS (talk) 16:48, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

AFD script trashed this page

The closeAFD2 script made this edit to a talk page on the 24th. I only just noticed it when another editor reverted it. The script apparently tried to add an AFD result to the Wikiproject Lancashire template instead of the AFD multi template. SpinningSpark 23:01, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the report, the script should be fixed now. Mr.Z-man 23:08, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Astro-Physics

Hi Mr.Z-man. You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Astro-Physics as "delete" two days ago.

Here is what I would have written at the AfD:

• Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
  1. Harrington, Philip S. (2011-02-05). Star Ware: The Amateur Astronomer's Guide to Choosing, Buying, and Using Telescopes and Accessories (4 ed.). Hoboken, New Jersey: John Wiley & Sons. p. 96. ISBN 978-0471750635. Retrieved 2014-12-26.

     The book notes:

     Astro-Physics. Astro-Physics is a name immediately recognizable to the connoisseur of fine refractors on rock-steady mounts. Owners Roland and Majorie Christen introduced their first high-performance instruments in the early 1980s and effectively revived what was then sagging interest in refractors among amateur astronomers. Now, two decades later, Astro-Physics refractors remain unsurpassed by any other apochromat sold today.

     As this edition of Star Ware is published, Astro-Physics is redesigning its line of refractors. Only the 160EDF, an exceptional 6.3-inch f/75 instrument, remains at present. Therefore, rather than offer speculation here, I'll ask that you visit the chapter 5 supplemental material found in the Star Ware section of www.philharrington.net. Information, test reports, and owner comments will be posted and analyzed there as the information becomes available. But two things are likely, given Astro-Physics' past record of performance. First, any instrument wearing the Astro-Physics name will undoubtedly be the finest of its kind. However, because of high demand and limited production, delivery will likely take years. Considering the nearly instant availability of fine apo refractors from Takahashi and Tele Vue, waiting that long for an Astro-Physics refractor is difficult to justify.

  2. English, Neil (2012-08-30). Classic Telescopes: A Guide to Collecting, Restoring, and Using Telescopes of Yesteryear. New York: Springer Science+Business Media. pp. 184–185. ISBN 978-1461444237. Retrieved 2014-12-26.

     The book notes:

     In the 1980s and 1990s, Astro-Physics optical designs continue to innovate with each new design, new levels of performance were achived. The quality of construction of the tube assemblies, sophistication of the mounts and range of accessories have also improved year upon year.

     Although most amateurs associate Astro-Physics with triplets, the company also churned out a limited run of double ED refractors (Fig. 10.6). Jeff Morgan, a telescope maker and avid observer based in Prescott, Arizona, was kind enough to share his experiences regarding his recent purchase of an older 120 mm doublet Astro-Physics refractor offered between 1990 and 1992:

     [long quote from Jeff Morgan]

     In the late 1990s, Astro-Physics also offered even smaller travel 'scopes for the discerning amateur astronomer on the move. Prominent among them were the Astro-Physics Traveler, a 105 mm F/6 triplet apochromat and, at about half the size, the 90 mm f/5 'Stowaway.' Even by today's standards, these instruments are so well thought of that their price tags on the used market have, until very recently, appreciated (Fig. 10.7).

  3. Gary, Alex (2006-10-26). "High-end telescope maker goes under microscope". Rockford Register Star. Archived from the original on 2014-12-26. Retrieved 2014-12-26.
  4. "Get a closer look at the heavens with telescope made here". Rockford Register Star. 2006-07-20. Archived from the original on 2014-12-26. Retrieved 2014-12-26.
  5. "Astro-Physics to be profiled on TV show". Rockford Register Star. 2006-12-25. Archived from the original on 2014-12-26. Retrieved 2014-12-26.
  There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Astro-Physics to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

  Cunard (talk) 05:01, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Would you consider reopening and relisting Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Astro-Physics so these sources can be discussed by the community? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 05:01, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

 Done @Cunard: Mr.Z-man 16:51, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! I have added the sources to the article. Would you also undelete the redirect Astro-Physics, Inc.? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:17, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

AFD script

Hi, I totally depend on your wonderful script to relist/close AfDs. However, at this point, the "relist" button displays briefly while a page is charging, but then disappears. I'm absolutely helpless with css or js pages, so I have no clue whether this is an error caused at my side (although I haven't changed anything in a while, but I do have anew computer...) or whether it is something that happened at your side. (I have a similar problem with the "block" button that "easyblock" normally puts at the top of a userpage or usertalk page). Your help will be much appreciated! Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 12:29, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

No idea. What browser are you using, and what Gadgets do you have enabled in Preferences? Mr.Z-man 16:52, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

I'm using Firefox and the gadgets I have enabled are: HotCat, PopUps, Twinkle, Referencetooltips, ImmageAnnotator, Citation expander, WikiEd, AFC helper script, Charinsert, and Reftoolbar. --Randykitty (talk) 17:44, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Hey Randy, try another browser and see if the issue persists? That would confirm that it's something with your settings or the script and not the browser czar ⨹ 17:56, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Hah, when I use Internet Explorer, I see both the block and relist buttons... I guess that means it is my browser? What could cause this? --Randykitty (talk) 18:14, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Not sure. You could try running Firefox in "safe mode" to see if that makes a difference. Mr.Z-man 23:38, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Just tried, but doesn't make a difference. --Randykitty (talk) 00:09, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

The only other thing I can think of would be to disable all your other scripts and gadgets, then re-enable them one by one to see which is causing a conflict (if it's also happening with easyblock, then it's probably not a problem with the script itself). And if it doesn't work when it's the only script ... then I'm stumped. Mr.Z-man 03:06, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Sounds like a good plan. I'll let you know if it works. If not, I'll take it to the village pump. In any case, thanks very much for your time and effort in trying to solve this! --Randykitty (talk) 10:57, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Tajik people

You seem to have fully protected the above. It's been subject to socking IPs trying to insert unsourced claims with well established registered users (not including me) reverting. Shouldn't it be simply semi'd? DeCausa (talk) 22:41, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

From what I could see, it was mostly various IPs edit warring with a bunch of registered sock puppet accounts - Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Turan22/Archive. I honestly have no idea what's going on there, the history of the article is basically nothing but reverting for the past several days. Either way, it's not obvious vandalism. Adding unsourced information isn't something that can just be summarily dismissed as "disruption" and reverted with no discussion. People need to either discuss it or drop it. Mr.Z-man 01:54, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

You have to laugh....

Mr.Z-bot flags another bot as a vandal. Priceless. :-) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrator_intervention_against_vandalism%2FTB2&diff=640443532&oldid=640426372 Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 01:16, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Error by AFD2 script

The script failed to remove the AFD template when closing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Howell Park Uptown Dallas. Subsequently corrected by Cyberbot I. SpinningSpark 12:39, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

AFD2 relist comment

The relist function of the AFD2 script has a box for entering comments when relisting a page. However, it does not seem to actually use those comments (example where a comment was definitely entered, but does not appear in the edit). Template:relist has a facility for adding a comment as a parameter, and I assume that the script uses this template. SpinningSpark 09:48, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	CloseAFD2 changed my life. I can't imagine AfD without it, and it keeps getting better! Thank you for making such an excellent tool. czar ⨹ 21:47, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Walmart

Extend PC time? --George Ho (talk) 04:41, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

 Done Mr.Z-man 05:13, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Barangay Ginebra San Miguel

How about this one? --George Ho (talk) 04:47, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

 Done Mr.Z-man 05:13, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

AFD closer

Hello, is your AFD-closer script working? Or something is wrong in my User:Titodutta/common.js page. Could you check please? it is not loading. --Tito Dutta (talk) 13:47, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

At a quick glance, the problem is probably the line:

importScript("Us ");

I haven't had any complaints from anyone else that it's not working. Mr.Z-man 05:14, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

AFD2 uncategorized redirect closures

I believe AFD2 tool marks redirect closures as {{uncategorized}}. Are there plans to build basic categorization options into the tool? czar ⨹ 22:46, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

I hadn't really planned on it. Mr.Z-man 05:15, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

If you change your mind, for what it's worth, almost every AfD redirect I've done could be categorized as {{R from related topic}}. Either defaulting to that (or giving an option between that and {{uncategorized}}) would save a whole lot of time. Right now it just means an extra step to every redirect closure. czar ⨹ 11:19, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

82.43.7.209

Hi, he/she is removing full content from diff: articles plus vandalizing too after final warning. All warnings are fresh, also reported at AIV but you said No vandalism since final warning. Bit confused --A.Minkowiski ^{_Lets t@lk} 17:50, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

His last edit was at 14:41, the final warning was at 15:36, and you didn't report him until 17:27. Mr.Z-man 22:40, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Remove article

Hello,in this article List of awards and nominations received by Got7 Until now Is very subverted,All contents of this article are without a source and award are not notable,Malicious users and IP Undo the Redirect page to Got7,Got7#Awards and nominations:List of awards and nominations received by Got7,please delete this page Because got7 article is enough for [Got7]'s awards and nominations ,tanks(Mrchurang (talk) 01:48, 31 January 2015 (UTC))

The article is tagged for deletion as "previously deleted via a deletion discussion" - but I can't find an AFD for it and it doesn't seem to have ever been deleted before. So you need to PROD, or start an AFD, or start a discussion on the talk page to redirect it. I can't just unilaterally delete it for no reason and there was no actual discussion about making it a redirect before. Mr.Z-man 02:01, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

I love how well WP works. Thanks, mop man! Do you feel like blocking the vandal gang before they move on to the next victim? FourViolas (talk) 03:53, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Bot and categories

Hi Z-man, from time to time the page Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard/Watchlist gets placed in categories. Myself and other editors have fixed this several times. Would it be possible for you to change the bot so that if it's referring to a category page it inserts the extra colon character ? Actually, it could put the colon character in for all pages it refers to (which would mean the page doesn't show up in what-links-here). DexDor (talk) 12:33, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Good faith edits by 14.200.15.85

Hi Mr.Z-man! I was wondering what would be the best way to handle the good faith edits on month articles by this user. Thank you, Bananasoldier (talk) 05:56, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm probably confused... Comment

I have your AFDClose script installed and it has worked in the past. I have been away for about a year and find that it no longer seems to load the CLOSE tab when viewing an AFD. Could you suggest something? I know you are busy and I do appreciate your help. JodyB _talk 17:09, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

• I'll answer my own question here. I was using Chrome as my browser and apparently there is some conflict there. I switched back to Firefox and it reappeared. I was hopeful that Chrome would work but I'm fine without it. Thanks again for your work. JodyB _talk 21:53, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
  • It should work in Chrome. You might also want to try the new stable-but-not-quite-as-tested version User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD2.js. That one I know should work in Chrome, since it's what I'm using now to develop it. Mr.Z-man 00:07, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
    • I added the new one and can use it in Chrome. I haven't thoroughly tested it but it seems to work. I'm happy to help with any testing you may need. Thanks! JodyB _talk 02:50, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Sociopath

I apologize for calling him, you know. I don't want to second-guess your judgement, but I was NOT disrupting that page. So?--63.135.255.56 (talk) 05:52, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Popular pages

Mr. Z can we get a popular page list for Wikipedia:WikiProject Sanitation? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:24, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Suggestion for "Popular pages"

I'm loving your "Popular pages" system -- the results for WP:LOU are very enlightening! I was just thinking it would be cool if the table could display the month-to-month change in position (e.g., ↑3 or ↓17), and also whether an article is new to the list. I'm thinking in terms of Billboard charts which do something like this. Just a suggestion. Thanks for your fantastic work on this. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 17:16, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

closeAFD.js bug or is TW to blame here?

Hi Z.man. Earlier today I closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Malaun. An editor has informed me, that {{Article for deletion}} was not removed from Malaun in the process, and has followed-up by removing it manually. I have not seen this situation before. Could it have anything to do with TW for reasons unknown to me in this case first created Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Malaun and then tagged Malaun? Best, -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 12:28, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Readership levels of Wiki articles seem to have halved in 2 years

I have been tracking the popularity stats for Wiki psychology article for over 2 years. Compare the stats from say 2 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Psychology/Popular_pages&oldid=533632110 with the latest data: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Psychology/Popular_pages, every article has had a sharp decline in readers, on average about 50%. Either there is a problem with stats accuracy or more scarily the readership of Wikipedia is plummeting which is very depressing as you would have thought it was expanding.--Penbat (talk) 08:04, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

This was a known issue for a while - See phab:T60036 and User:Mr.Z-man/pageview#Test 4. I haven't tested it recently (and am not sure I even still have the test scripts), but AFAIK, no one has actually done anything to fix it on the WMF end. Mr.Z-man 16:02, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Some have also suggested that mobile views aren't counted, which may account for some as more people use tablets instead of PCs, but I'm not sure if that's actually been verified. Mr.Z-man 16:04, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Mobile view theory sounds very plausible. Its a shame it hasnt been fixed. Surely the WMF cant be that starved of money.--Penbat (talk) 18:03, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes mobile views are not included. User:West.andrew.g has data here that includes mobile and is a great deal higher. Supposedly mobile is now avaliable

Mr. Z's data does correspond to http://stats.grok.se/en/

Is there a possibly you can update your data to include mobile? Pageviews for medical articles are also down 50% of the last two years.

Overall en readership has dropped some over the last two years from 10.65B to 9.22B (13.4%). This may be partly related to google knowledge boxes.

For medical articles it is just a slight drop when one when takes into account mobile as done here [10]. These calculations are just assuming mobile for medicine is the same as average mobile for all en Wikipedia. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 05:57, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Popular pages for February

I noticed that Popular pages for February hasn't run. Is there an issue keeping the bot from running? Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 20:23, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject Beetles

I noticed your name in the WikiProject Beetles talkpage. Would you be interested to join our project as our participant? Many thanks.--Mishae (talk) 15:52, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Possible bug with the new version of the AFD closer

Howdy, I've been seeing a recurring issue with the new version of your AFD closer. When merging, if the source article talk page doesn't exist, it's created but the status message is stuck on "Tagging talk page(s)...". The script then says that everything is done without saying that all of the talk pages have been tagged. I'm using Chrome 42.0.2311.90 (Official Build) m (32-bit) on Win8. Thanks, Nakon 22:58, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Trying to track down the source of a stat - can you help?

Hi, I've been reading some archived discussions about the Autoconfirmed trial from 2011 and there was a statistic batted around a lot: 80% of all pages created by autoconfirmed users are deleted. I can't seem to find a source for that one, and it seems to have been linked to you. Do you by any chance know where that statistic came from, and if things have changed at all since then? Thanks! Bluma.Gelley (talk) 21:13, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

That's probably from here. In that study, 12,600 users' first edit was to create an article and 10,225 had their article deleted (and of those, only 64 were still editing 6 months later). There's some additional data and more analysis on the talk page. Mr.Z-man 21:29, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Bluma.Gelley (talk) 17:23, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Possible flaw with AfD closer

As per WP:AFD/AI (see the keep section), on an AfD keep result, the {{Old AfD multi}} should be placed below WikiProject banners, however the script places it on the top of talk pages. Could you modify it so it places it below such banners? Thanks in advance. Esquivalience ^t 01:18, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

No. I tried, but unfortunately it's far more complicated than that and is totally impractical to implement in a script like this. Mr.Z-man 03:26, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

EddieSegoura Ban Appeal

Hello. I am notifying you that the above is currently being considered at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Community de facto ban appeal by User:EddieSegoura, and your input (positive, negative, or otherwise) is invited there. You have received this notification and invitation as you participated in the previous ban appeal in 2009 and may be familiar with or remember some of the earlier context, you may be aware of other matters which are relevant to the appeal, or you may wish to express whether or not your view has changed since the last discussion. Regards, Ncmvocalist (talk) 18:35, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Using Popular Pages

Hello, I'd like to add WP:ROMANCE to your bot, but when I went to OAuth, it said I need to be logged in across all systems. What other one besides the WP mainspace do I need to be logged in with? Thanks! plange (talk) 23:40, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Never mind, just tried it again and it authorized me this time...plange (talk) 03:43, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject_Sanitation

Wondering if we can get a popular page listing? Thanks Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 14:34, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for creating the list (here). But how and when does it get updated? I thought perhaps it gets updated every month which would be now? EvM-Susana (talk) 07:36, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

It does update every month. I had problems with the source data files sometimes being uploaded late, so I put in a 1 week delay. Mr.Z-man 23:34, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Wow supper cool. Yah it usually takes until mid month for the update to occur :-) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 02:21, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD2.js

Hi Mr.Z-man. The (new?) AfD2 closing tool is great, but one change is a slight annoyance to me and I was wondering if you could help. I have my preferences set to watchlist any article I edit, which I find very useful for my general editing. With the previous AfD closer it seemed to ignore this setting, which was preferable because I don't feel the need to watchlist articles who's AfD I close. AfD2, however, watchlists articles after I close their AfD. Any idea if I could change the .js page manually for myself so that it retains the previous watchlisting behaviour? Thanks, Sam Walton (talk) 00:15, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

I changed the script so that it shouldn't change whatever your current watchlist setting is for the page. Mr.Z-man 01:19, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, very helpful :) Sam Walton (talk) 09:36, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Article missing

Articles that were included last month are missing this month? Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Translation_task_force/Popular_pages For example Talk:Peptic ulcer is not there but was there before. Not sure what is causing the issue. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 07:52, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

The assessment category was changed (it was actually changed at the end of April, but it probably took a while to propagate). I can change the category in the configuration for the bot, but I can't see any discussion for the change, so I'll let you decide whether to keep the change or not. Mr.Z-man 13:30, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks have reverted those changes. Hopefully that will fix the issue. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 15:24, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Bots

You are receiving this message because a technical change may affect a bot, gadget, or user script you have been using. The breaking change involves API calls. This change has been planned for two years. The WMF will start making this change on 30 June 2015. A partial list of affected bots can be seen here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2015-June/081931.html This includes all bots that are using pywikibot compat. Some of these bots have already been fixed. However, if you write user scripts or operate a bot that uses the API, then you should check your code, to make sure that it will not break.

What, exactly, is breaking? The "default continuation mode" for action=query requests to api.php will be changing to be easier for new coders to use correctly. To find out whether your script or bot may be affected, then search the source code (including any frameworks or libraries) for the string "query-continue". If that is not present, then the script or bot is not affected. In a few cases, the code will be present but not used. In that case, the script or bot will continue working.

This change will be part of 1.26wmf12. It will be deployed to test wikis (including mediawiki.org) on 30 June, to non-Wikipedias (such as Wiktionary) on 1 July, and to all Wikipedias on 2 July 2015.

If your bot or script is receiving the warning about this upcoming change (as seen at https://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=allpages ), it's time to fix your code!

• The simple solution is to simply include the "rawcontinue" parameter with your request to continue receiving the raw continuation data (example <https://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=allpages&rawcontinue=1>). No other code changes should be necessary.
• Or you could update your code to use the simplified continuation documented at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Query#Continuing_queries (example <https://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=allpages&continue=>), which is much easier for clients to implement correctly.

Either of the above solutions may be tested immediately, you'll know it works because you stop seeing the warning.

Do you need help with your own bot or script? Ask questions in e-mail on the mediawiki-api or wikitech-l mailing lists. Volunteers at m:Tech or w:en:WP:Village pump (technical) or w:en:Wikipedia:Bot owners' noticeboard may also be able to help you.

Are you using someone else's gadgets or user scripts? Most scripts are not affected. To find out if a script you use needs to be updated, then post a note at the discussion page for the gadget or the talk page of the user who originally made the script. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 19:03, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Tokens?

Hey, remember that script you wrote for me, enabling me to patrol directly from the queue? The tokens expire a little too quickly - would it be at all possible to extend their lifespan? DS (talk) 17:20, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject_Water_supply_and_sanitation_by_country

Could we please also get a popular page listing for this project? Thanks in advance. EvM-Susana (talk) 07:39, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

I don't know if this is time consuming, but if not, could you please still get it done? Would be awesome.EvM-Susana (talk) 07:53, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Desktop only

Am I correct in saying that this lists are only desktop views? [11]

And if that is the case can we add this fact to all the popular pages lists. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:33, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

closeAFD

User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD2.js is not removing {{REMOVE THIS TEMPLATE WHEN CLOSING THIS AfD}}. — JJMC89 (T·E·C) 19:09, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

closeAFD.js

I went to close Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tha Carter V as redirect but the redirect was already in place. So the script completely blanked Lil Wayne and redirected it to itself! [12] Maybe have the script check if the redirect is already in place? Just letting you know! Thanks for the otherwise awesome script :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:47, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

filters.js

Hey, sorry to bug you again! Could you confirm Mr.Z-bot is still reporting filter hits to AIV? We had a few hits from Special:AbuseFilter/713 that are set to be reported immediately but I don't think they were. I checked the bots contribs and don't see any AIV edits for some time. Mind taking a look at it? Thank you!!! — MusikAnimal ^talk 17:54, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Looks like it is working. Please disregard, thanks! — MusikAnimal ^talk 01:49, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Request: increase the upper limit

I find this service valuable to the point that I've just now added it to {{Infobox WikiProject}}. Having said that, would you consider increasing the upper limit to 10,000 to support the giant projects like Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography (nearly 1.3 million articles) and Wikipedia:WikiProject United States (400,000 articles)? Thank you in advance. -- DanielPenfield (talk) 19:11, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

It uses templates for the table cells with the assessment/importance data. If there's more than 1000 or so, it starts to hit the MediaWiki template limit. 10,000 probably wouldn't even save. Mr.Z-man 14:20, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

An easy way around that is to subst: {{Class}} and {{Importance}}. What do you reckon? Popular pages is such a useful service! -- DanielPenfield (talk) 00:30, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

I would like to withdraw my request as you or someone whose account shares the letter 'z' with yours already provides such a service under the unassuming name "View lists of the hitcount data" on https://tools.wmflabs.org/popularpages/ ! Thank you for your consideration! -- DanielPenfield (talk) 19:15, 15 August 2015 (UTC)