User talk:Natureium/Archive 8
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Your remark
It disappoints me that the apparent administration of this site perpetuates a fraudulent myth of a failed "self-made" businesswoman - being unwilling to call a fraudster what they are shows a disappointing amount of spinelessness; and calling my good-faith edit to reflect the reality of the person's status "vandalism" is callous to say the least. I would say shame on you, but you have none either way. Keep your article as is. 188.117.184.41 (talk) 05:33, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
I see your prod was removed :( Ping me if you AfD this mess, I agree it should be deleted. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:35, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
RFC
A request for sarcasm has been requested of you at List_of_oil_spills_impacting_penguins Praxidicae (talk) 18:19, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
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Why you not minding yours
You don’t have nothing better to do tf Gigoa2013 (talk) 03:17, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
IP threats of violence
It's a globally blocked abuser who has been making gross threats of violence. No matter how minor, they may not edit. That is why they're reverted. Acroterion (talk) 16:54, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Understood. It would be helpful if BMB was mentioned when reverting instead of just a generic reversion. Natureium (talk) 17:40, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Agreed. They're prolific and persistent, we're trying to bore them,. Acroterion (talk) 17:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
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Source removal
I see you removed a meta-analysis paper from a few pages, namely PMID 24807747. I'm interested in the reason why. I would not have spotted it as a bad source. Ratel 🌼 (talk) 22:24, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
Gene entries
Hello Natureium - have seen your entries on various gene pages and wondered if you could clarify - why some pages (most in my viewings) use the gene name for entry name and others use the protein - is there a hard and fast rule somewhere? What has prompted this is a move request for FUS (gene) to be changed to FUS protein. Am inclined to oppose this change but there are unusual cases where the protein is the entry name: DDIT3 has the protein as entry name but DDIT4 has the gene as entry. It would be good to have some ruling for consistency; this has caused confusion for me in the past. Many thanks --Iztwoz (talk) 21:02, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- Iztwoz, there actually exists Wikipedia:WikiProject Molecular Biology/Style guide (gene and protein articles), but it's only somewhat followed. From my observations, it seems that naming articles by gene name is more common. If I do move an article I tend to go by what is more commonly talked about. (ex. p53) In this case, the UniProt name is actually "RNA-binding protein FUS", so that's where it should be moved to if it were to be moved. Natureium (talk) 21:17, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
Election
Why did you delete my discussion? WaltCip keeped attacking me. Have you ever heard of Bush v. Gore? The SCOTUS will rule this time too. It's not over yet. 2604:3D08:4E7F:F7E0:3519:78F6:8BB0:2F68 (talk) 03:35, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
- You were disrupting productive discussion. If you want to continue to disagree with WaltCip, perhaps you could try his talk page. Natureium (talk) 03:37, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
- But you did delete mine. WaltCip is the one who disrupted the discussion first. Why did you do nothing to him? But that's okay. I only care about the SCOTUS decision. 2604:3D08:4E7F:F7E0:3519:78F6:8BB0:2F68 (talk) 04:00, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
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Sorry
Not only am I an idiot, but my first instinct seems to have been that you were an idiot. I'll go crawl back under my rock in shame. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:27, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- And it occurs to me now that my first comment could be taken as playing along, rather than thinking you were serious, and if I had just shut up no one would have known I was an idiot. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:29, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hahaha I did assume you were playing along. I was hoping that the title "threats of violence through the internet pipes" would make the exaggeration clear. However, am I the only one that noticed that the closer encouraged more violence in using the term "headhunting"? Natureium (talk) 17:31, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- Be careful. User:Jehochman can be dangerous. I wouldn't put it past him to hunt heads. Whatever you do, don't ping him. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:33, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- I read it first (without the edit) and read Floq's reply seriously, then reloaded the page (with the edit) and assumed I'd just missed the small text the first time, and read Floq's reply as playing along. You really could have got away with that.
- I would just say though, hilarious or otherwise, joking about threats of violence and about emailing the emergency contact on ANI is just... probably not a great idea for the future. ~ mazca talk 17:34, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- Be careful. User:Jehochman can be dangerous. I wouldn't put it past him to hunt heads. Whatever you do, don't ping him. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:33, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hahaha I did assume you were playing along. I was hoping that the title "threats of violence through the internet pipes" would make the exaggeration clear. However, am I the only one that noticed that the closer encouraged more violence in using the term "headhunting"? Natureium (talk) 17:31, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
That's enough! Into the pot, all of you. Jehochman Talk 17:45, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- Omg, now people are being stewed on my talk page. It never ends. Natureium (talk) 17:51, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
A tool to locate "bad" sources
Are you using any tool to locate "bad" sources, that you can recommend? Maxim Masiutin (talk) 13:17, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- Generally what I do is that I'll come across an article citing a predatory journal or an academic paper mill, and after removing it from that article I'll search the 'pedia for
insource:[journal name]and remove it from other articles, along with any improbable claims that it's linked to. Natureium (talk) 21:11, 12 November 2020 (UTC)- Here is a list for if you're looking for what to look for. Wikipedia:WikiProject Academic Journals/Journals cited by Wikipedia/Questionable1 Natureium (talk) 21:23, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
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New Page Patrol December Newsletter
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- Year in review
It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by Rosguill who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to JTtheOG and Onel5969 who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to John B123, Hughesdarren, and Mccapra who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by DannyS712 which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.
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I left a message on User:CycoMa's talk page and assumed that would be the end of it. Asarelah (talk) 18:41, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
What’s going on here?CycoMa (talk) 18:53, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
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[1] Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 23:02, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – July 2021
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- Consensus has been reached to delete all books in the book namespace. There was rough consensus that the deleted books should still be available on request at WP:REFUND even after the namespace is removed.
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Arbitration
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Articles for Creation July 2021 Backlog Elimination Drive
Hello Natureium:
WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running until 31 July 2021.
Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.
There is currently a backlog of over 2400 articles, so start reviewing articles. We're looking forward to your help!
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- An RfC is open to add a delay of one week from nomination to deletion for G13 speedy deletions.
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Administrators' newsletter – September 2021
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Nomination of List of people killed while running for deletion
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New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021
Hello Natureium,
Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.
Copyright violations are also a serious issue. Most non-regular contributors do not understand why, and most of our Reviewers are not experts on copyright law - and can't be expected to be, but there is excellent, easy-to-follow advice on COPYVIO detection here.
At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.
There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.
If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process or its software.
Various awards are due to be allocated by the end of the year and barnstars are overdue. If you would like to manage this, please let us know. Indeed, if you are interested in coordinating NPR, it does not involve much time and the tasks are described here.
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