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Archive 3: January–June 2019

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Declined[edit]

Hi,

How can I make the article less generic and like a sales pitch? I am just trying to add a page and don't want it to benefit the company or promote their product.

Any advice? — Preceding unsigned comment added by LewisSankaa (talk • contribs) 13:49, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@LewisSankaa: Here are some of the promotional parts I found that DragonflySixtyseven removed:
“top-tier content creators”
“various talents throughout the world”
“content verticals”—marketing term
“Ritual offers tools that video content creators use to further develop their growth, combined with the ability to support influencer marketing campaigns and protect and monetise the creators assets.”—Sounds like a press release
“ASMR content creators generate millions of views and Ritual Network helps connect them with advertisers who are looking to reach their audience through paid promotion.”—ditto
Hope this helps. — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 16:55, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

CSDs left out[edit]

AFAICT this was left out of the last issue, any chance of getting them included in the next? I wrote up a summary for the administrators' newsletter, which may be helpful. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 22:39, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 22:47, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2019 Miami Hurricanes football season[edit]

I Put one reference in and the reference needs to be fixed can you fix it please. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 04:10, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The reference looks fine to me, but please read my comments and do not resubmit. — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 12:43, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

updated my submission for your review and approval[edit]

Thanks for your support, dear @Pythoncoder. Based on your comments and after reading through several guidelines, I have carefully updated my article and submitted for your review and recommendation for acceptance of my article for publication by Team Wikipedia. Your views and further guidelines are welcome. Thanks again. Murugesan Ramalingam — Preceding unsigned comment added by Murugesan Ramalingam (talk • contribs) 07:31, 8 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Murugesan Ramalingam: It still needs to cite its sources using footnotes; you can go to the page WP:REFB for how to do this. Also, please read WikiDan61's comments on your talk page before resubmitting. Question for you: Is the article about yourself or someone you know? — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 13:19, 8 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
PS — please sign your posts with ~~~~.

Request on 05:42:14, 10 February 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Sagarshah28[edit]


Clarity on the article marked as Advertisement
Dear Reviewer, you have recently reviewed my new article and marked it as an ad. I had read the article 2-3 times before submitting to ensure that all the information I have given are factual and backed by reputed source. Kindly, help me identify the areas which might have led to this decision.

Sagar Shah 05:42, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Sagarshah28 — per your request, here are some nonneutral phrases I found in the draft:
"fast-growing and popular"
"started touching many lives with his impactful yoga practices"
"With his excellence in service"
They do not adhere to Wikipedia's policy requiring a neutral point of view. Also, please ensure that your signature links to your userpage or user talk page as it makes it easier for other users to communicate with you [example wiki code to copy: Sagarshah28 (talk · contribs) ]. — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 14:33, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Saudisoft[edit]

Hey Pythoncoder... referring Saudisoft page declined on Oct. 3 ... because of promotional language I know that some of the references are in Arabic does this affect the declaration or should I just enhance the content??? especially that I already have this content in Wikipedia Arabic and I'm trying to make it multilingual this is the link of my draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Saudisoft thank you Geegooo (talk) 12:25, 12 February 2019 (UTC)Geegoo[reply]

@Geegooo: The language of the references did not affect my decision to decline your draft. References on the English Wikipedia can be in any language. I declined your draft because it contained promotional language. Specifically, its frequent description of the company as providing "solutions" made it read more like a marketing document. To fix this problem, you should edit the article to remove instances of the word "solution" or replace "solution" with a less vague and more neutral term like "product" or "service". (If you are using the word "Solution" as part of a product name, such as with Network Solutions, you can leave it in.) — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 13:24, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Pythoncoder: I enhanced the content following your advice and resubmit it again :)

hope it works this time, and thank you for your help :), please, if you can read it and tell me your opinion about it Geegooo

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I Tried to Upload The 2020 Men's Final Four Logo And it's Not Responding. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 21:15, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You need to have an account to upload files. — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 21:20, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Saguna Baug Post Updated[edit]

Thanks for reviewing Saguna Baug(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Saguna_Baug).

The changes as suggested as been incorporated.

Please note that I as an a write is not associated or paid for this article. I am a freelancer, and the post in question, given the strong references of first class publications, is worthy of Wikipedia coverage. Also, there are other similar agri-tourism initiatives, which has been covered on the Wikipedia, like Stream Cliff Farm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_Cliff_Farm

Will highly appreciated your review and acceptance of this article on Wikipedia.

-- Umair Sayed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Umairsy (talk • contribs) 07:29, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the revision history, I can see that you have incorporated my feedback and resolved the issues I had. Another editor has accepted the draft. Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia! — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 13:16, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks for the review. Any tips for me to become an editor? ) Some of the pages I have written. Ahmadullah Shah, Quaiser Khalid, Barkat Ahmad.
Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Umairsy (talk • contribs) 07:10, 15 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I put something on your talkpage with some helpful links if you're looking to get more involved with Wikipedia. I see you've already had your account for a while but some might be helpful because I can see that you've been inactive for a while. — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 13:15, 15 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Have Fun Amirsara (talk) 23:00, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 23:02, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Declined speedy, but reasonable tag[edit]

Hey, just wanted to let you know that I declined your G10 nomination of User:Dessiahc97/sandbox. I totally see why you tagged it, but the user appears to be part of a wiki ed class, and simply meant that they wanted that to be their assigned topic, not as a threat. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 01:28, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

trout Self-trout — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 01:33, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Question?[edit]

`So, I am looking at the facts right now. I am really putting a lot of thought into this. However, I feel it might be best for the Signpost if you speak to Bri about becoming the new Editor-in-Chief. You have been extremely active for a while now, and I can't think of anyone that would be a better fit. Could you please lift this cloud we are under? Would you be willing to do it? ―MattLongCT -Talk-☖ 07:47, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have read your message and will reply later today. — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 14:04, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@MattLongCT: I’ve thought about this a lot. I’m very sorry, but I just can’t do it. While I am active at this moment, I go on wikibreak a lot and overall I’m not active enough to properly run this publication. Sorry. — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 03:58, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Dang... Do you think I should ask Evad37? My only concern there is that they made a single small edit on the humor article before publication. I really want to try to find someone as far away from that post as possible. ―MattLongCT -Talk-☖ 04:14, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@MattLongCT: Up to you. The edit you linked seems minor and not like a judgment on the piece’s content. I would point out that Evad was the editor-in-chief from June 2017 to March 2018 (and in fact was the person who revived the Signpost after it hadn't published since March 2017), but Bri took charge after Evad disappeared in March 2018. Unclear if these issues would show up now but just something to think about. — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 15:23, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Abelmoschus Esculentus' User Scripts[edit]

Dear all. Recently, our community lost a dedicated user, Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk). Among their projects were a number of user scripts that they left behind. I (DannyS712) have copied the scripts, and have taken over maintaining them. You currently import one or more of Abelmoschus Esculentus' scripts, and I thought that you might want to import a maintained version. Links to each script are provided below.

If you have any questions, please reach out and talk to me. --DannyS712 (talk) 00:30, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 00:41, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I thought you could use a snack~[edit]

Acorri has given you a brownie! Brownies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a brownie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. I see you active in a lot of the places I find myself quietly reading and I wanted to say I appreciate everything you do! I hope we can be friends someday ~†

♦AcoriSage 03:34, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost[edit]

Some of us have finally taken the decision to retire from The Signpost never to return - or are about to. None of these retirements are an admission of wrong-doing or under a cloud, but the bad blood and personal attacks are untenable. Nobody helping to run the magazine should be expected to go through this. I appreciate everything you have done for The Signpost over the last few months and if you believe, as Smallbones does that it's worth saving, I can't argue against it - except that nobody cared two hoots about it disappearance a year ago when I jumped in and resurrected it; you and Smallbones have my best wishes but unfortunately probably not with much support from me. I would, however, guard against encouraging newbies with little knowledge of Wikipedia, and blatant detractors of The Signpost and it editors from taking part. That said, This scandal, having spilled over multiple talk pages, ANI, MfD, and Arbcom, has had, IMO, already enough exposure and yet another article about it all in The Signpost will not change anything, will rub more salt into people's wounds, and allow even more polemic and vituperation in the comments section from people who have already had more than enough to say. Please think about it. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:58, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please participate to the talk pages consultation[edit]

Hello

Our team at the Wikimedia Foundation is working on a project to improve the ease-of-use and productivity of wiki talk pages. As a Teahouse host, I can imagine you’ve run into challenges explaining talk pages to first-time participants.

We want all contributors to be able to talk to each other on the wikis – to ask questions, to resolve differences, to organize projects and to make decisions. Communication is essential for the depth and quality of our content, and the health of our communities. We're currently leading a global consultation on how to improve talk pages, and we're looking for people that can report on their experiences using (or helping other people to use) wiki talk pages. We'd like to invite you to participate in the consultation, and invite new users to join too.

We thank you in advance for your participation and your help.

Trizek (WMF), 08:37, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please participate to the talk pages consultation - link update[edit]

The previous message about the talk pages consultation has a broken link.

The correct link has been misinterpreted by the MassMessage tool. Please use the following link: Wikipedia:Talk pages consultation 2019.

Sorry for the inconvenience, Trizek (WMF), 08:48, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Helpful neologisms[edit]

I liked this. My only question is, is "Neelix" a verb or a noun?  — Scott • talk 15:51, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Scott, That was intended as a shorthand for “we should deal with this the same way we dealt with Neelix redirects”. I was tired of writing the same thing over and over about how we needed a CSD criteria so I wrote that. — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 18:22, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #030, 17 Mar 2019[edit]

Previous issue:

Single-page portals: 4,704
Total portals: 5,705

This issue:

Single-page portals: 4,562
Total portals: 5,578

The collection of portals has shrunk[edit]

All Portals closed at WP:MfD during 2019

Grouped Nominations total 127 Portals:

  1. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/US County Portals Deleted 64 portals
  2. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Districts of India Portals Deleted 30 Portals
  3. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portals for Portland, Oregon neighborhoods Deleted 23 Portals
  4. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Allen Park, Michigan Deleted 6 Portals
  5. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Cryptocurrency Deleted 2 Portals
  6. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:North Pole Deleted 2 Portals

Individual Nominations:

  1. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Circles Deleted
  2. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Fruits Deleted
  3. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:E (mathematical constant) Deleted
  4. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Burger King Deleted
  5. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Cotingas Deleted
  6. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Prostitution in Canada Deleted
  7. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Agoura Hills, California Deleted
  8. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Urinary system Deleted
  9. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:You Am I Deleted
  10. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Cannabis (2nd nomination) Reverted to non-Automated version
  11. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Intermodal containers Deleted
  12. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Adventure travel Deleted
  13. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Adam Ant Deleted
  14. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Benito Juárez, Mexico City Deleted
  15. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Spaghetti Deleted
  16. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Wikiatlas Deleted
  17. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Greek alphabet Deleted
  18. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn Deleted
  19. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Accounting Deleted G7
  20. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Lents, Portland, Oregon Deleted P2
  21. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Ankaran Deleted
  22. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Jiu-jitsu Deleted G8
  23. Portal:University of Nebraska Speedy Deleted P1/A10 exactly the same as Portal:University of Nebraska–Lincoln also created by the TTH

Related WikiProject:

  1. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Quantum portals Demoted

(Attribution: Copied from Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Portal MfD Results)

WikiProject Quantum portals[edit]

This was a spin-off from WikiProject Portals, for the purpose of developing zero-page portals (portals generated on-the-screen at the push of a button, with no stored pages).

It has been merged back into WikiProject Portals. In the MfD the vote was "demote". See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Quantum portals.

Hiatus on mass creation of Portals[edit]

At WP:VPR, mass creation of Portals using semi-automated tools has been put on hold until clearer community consensus is established.

See Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Hiatus on mass creation of Portals.

The Transhumanist banned from creating new portals for 3 months[edit]

See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Proposal 1: Interim Topic-Ban on New Portals.

Until next issue...[edit]

Keep on keepin' on.    — The Transhumanist   09:38, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Portal about skunks[edit]

Do you think there should be a portal about skunks on Wikipedia? Matthew Cenance (talk) 02:45, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MatthewCenance: Only if it meets WP:POG and the Wikiproject reocmmendations. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 17:18, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Question regarding my draft: Anton Ginzburg[edit]

Hi there! I am rather new to Wikipedia and am still learning. You left a comment that the page is missing inline citations. I was wondering if you could let me know if you were referring to the artist's accomplishments (like "Public Commissions" and "Selected Solo Exhibitions") or to text such as "awarded finalist of the Festival"? When I look at other examples such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Condo, not all the exhibitions have inline citations. Thank you for your help! Antonginzburg (talk) 02:19, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Antonginzburg, Wikipedia's policy on inline citations requires inline citations in the following situations:
Type of statement Policy requiring inline citation
Direct quotations Wikipedia:Verifiability
Any statement that has been challenged (e.g., by being removed, questioned on the talk page, or tagged with {{citation needed}}, or any similar tag) Wikipedia:Verifiability
Any statement that you believe is likely to be challenged. Wikipedia:Verifiability
Contentious material, whether negative, positive, or neutral, about living persons Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons
The links you have for the "Publications" section are okay references (I formatted them a bit for you). You probably don't need citations for "Selected Solo Exhibitions" as that material is not likely to be contentious. Beyond that, you should also provide citations for anything that fits the criteria above. Hope this helps. — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 02:39, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 10:43:27, 25 March 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by QuentinDeValence[edit]


Dear Pythoncoder,

Thanks for reviewing the article about Coqueline Courrèges. Paragraph with the non neutral term "innovative" has been deleted.

Do you think the article can be published now ?

QuentinDeValence (talk) 10:43, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

QuentinDeValence (talk) 10:43, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@QuentinDeValence: In general, I prefer to allow another user to weigh in on drafts I declined if they are resubmitted. It helps to get another opinion. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 17:18, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Table color schemes[edit]

Hello, Pythoncoder! I'm just letting you know that I responded to your points at Talk:Motion_picture_content_rating_system#RfC: Should we install a color scheme with 9 colors in the comparison table?. If you're still interested in helping out, please let me know and we can organize something.Zenkaino lovelive (talk) 04:45, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Zenkaino lovelive: At this time, I have moved onto other projects. — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 12:06, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You got me![edit]

Nice job Rickrolling me! Hahaha. I never saw it coming. Thanks for making me smile :) :) Goveganfortheanimals (talk) 13:28, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Goveganplease: I’m never gonna give that meme up.... —Pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 14:05, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you[edit]

Barnstar of Existence
For existing (you can't contribute if you don't exist). - Ɔ\ꓕ ⱯƎꓶZ 23:27, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

My article draft[edit]

Isn't one peer-reviewed scientific article enough as reference to create a new article? Oxygenic (talk) 17:52, 6 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Oxygenic. Wikipedia’s main notability guideline says there needs to be 2 or more independent reliable sources that contain significant coverage of it. I can’t find any page that contains what you said. I have been wrong about these things many, many times before though, so if you find a page where it says that, please put a link here. Thanks, —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 22:00, 6 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There is at least one robust, scientifically valid article describing the entry in detail. Most Wikipedia articles don't even have 1 supporting scientific article. So I think this is more than enough. This link was added as a reference: https://academic.oup.com/database/article/doi/10.1093/database/baz046/5427041 Oxygenic (talk) 09:54, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oxygenic: Excellent. If you think it’s ready to submit, go ahead. I should note that in general, I prefer to allow another user to weigh in on drafts I declined if they are resubmitted so there can be a second opinion. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 12:10, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Pythoncoder, the reference was already there in the last draft that you rejected. Can you please just re-evaluate the draft that was already submitted. There is no argument against this since there is robust coverage (something that can't be said about most Wikipedia pages). Oxygenic (talk) 07:08, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

New Zealand portal[edit]

I'm glad you spotted the Commons logo as a "featured image". I came across the portal the other week and was pretty perturbed by the poorly implemented 'redesign'. Today I decided to amend the changes and saw that you had already done so. Many thanks for that! --Hazhk (talk) 10:32, 7 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hazhk: I'm glad to help. See also WP:WikiProject Portals/Cleanup for more information. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 15:38, 7 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you declining E. Michael Jones page?[edit]

Explain yourself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.40.0.41 (talk) 14:48, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Because its only source was a website the subject runs. All articles must have at least two (and preferably more) references to independent, reliable sources that provide significant coverage of the topic (e.g. don't just mention them in passing). —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 16:05, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Why was the original removed which had at least three independent reliable sources? 2001:983:BBCF:1:ECD7:80EF:FB7E:2FCC (talk) 16:09, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
See Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/E._Michael_Jones. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 16:12, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
So you removed an article, knowing that the subject was an author with several published tomes, and didn't make an effort to correct the article's alleged lack of sources first? Rather, you simply deleted the article whole cloth, not even posting a stub or a request for information? Did it occur to you that that's poor editing work, or do you simply possess a vandetta against this particular author? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.1.33.85 (talk) 06:38, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't delete the article, another user did. If you want, you can try to contact one of the administrators here so you may obtain the previous content of the article for incorporation into the draft. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 12:24, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies on behalf of my Catholic Brethren[edit]

You'll probably be getting messages like the one above for the next couple of days as you've appeared to have been highlighted by whatever circles Jones is popular in on social media. As a fellow Catholic who noticed that Jones did't pass muster in terms of Wikipedia's notability standards regarding academics or authors and who knows what caliber of sources are needed to establish GNG I'd like to apologize on the behalf of some of the more misguided of us. Hang in there.

Best, GPL93 (talk) 02:12, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I would encourage any Catholics reading this to remember that the person upon whose teachings was founded Christianity told you to “love thy neighbor as thyself”. (Matthew 19:19) —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 12:32, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I couldn't agree more. I was taught that when I attended the same Catholic high school that E. Michael Jones did. Best, GPL93 (talk) 13:56, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Submission of "Draft:Trans Euro Trail" declined[edit]

Hi Pythoncoder,

thanks for reading and thinking about my draft article about the Trans European Trail.

I read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_America_Trail and was thinking about the same thing for the European Trail.

I also wrote and published the german version of the TET yesterday https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_Euro_Trail.

May I ask what I can do better to make it become an article in the english wikipedia?

Thanks and Greetings from Germany, Sven --Schwenn (talk) 15:18, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Top 25[edit]

I put @Stormy clouds:` name because he put the table and such, but maybe you can write something or ask to collaborate with him. igordebraga ≠ 17:44, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #031, 01 May 2019[edit]

Back to the drawing board[edit]

Implementation of the new portal design has been culled back almost completely, and the cull is still ongoing. The cull has also affected portals that existed before the development of the automated design.

Some of the reasons for the purge are:

  • Portals receive insufficient traffic, making it a waste of editor resources to maintain them, especially for narrow-scope or "micro" portals
  • The default {{bpsp}} portals are redundant with the corresponding articles, being based primarily on the corresponding navigation footer displayed on each of those articles, and therefore not worth separate pages to do so
  • They were mass created

Most of the deletions have been made without prejudice to recreation of curated portals, so that approval does not need to be sought at Deletion Review in those cases.

In addition to new portals being deleted, most of the portals that were converted to an automated design have been reverted.

Which puts us back to portals with manually selected content, that need to be maintained by hand, for the most part, for the time being, and back facing some of the same problems we had when we were at this crossroads before:

  • Manually maintained portals are not scalable (they are labor intensive, and there aren't very many editors available to maintain them)
  • The builders/maintainers tend to eventually abandon them
  • Untended handcrafted portals go stale and fall into disrepair over time

These and other concepts require further discussion. See you at WT:POG.

However, after the purge/reversion is completed, some of the single-page portals might be left, due to having acceptable characteristics (their design varied some). If so, then those could possibly be used as a model to convert and/or build more, after the discussions on portal creation and design guidelines have reached a community consensus on what is and is not acceptable for a portal.

See you at WT:POG.

Curation[edit]

A major theme in the deletion discussions was the need for portals to be curated, that is, each one having a dedicated maintainer.

There are currently around 100 curated portals. Based on the predominant reasoning at MfD, it seems likely that all the other portals may be subject to deletion.

See you at WT:POG.

Traffic[edit]

An observation and argument that arose again and again during the WP:ENDPORTALS RfC and the ongoing deletion drive of {{bpsp}} default portals, was that portals simply do not get much traffic. Typically, they get a tiny fraction of what the corresponding like-titled articles get.

And while this isn't generally considered a good rationale for creation or deletion of articles, portals are not articles, and portal critics insist that traffic is a key factor in the utility of portals.

The implication is that portals won't be seen much, so wouldn't it be better to develop pages that are?

And since such development isn't limited to editing, almost anything is possible. If we can't bring readers to portals, we could bring portal features, or even better features, to the readers (i.e., to articles)...

Some potential future directions of development[edit]

Quantum portals?[edit]

An approach that has received some brainstorming is "quantum portals", meaning portals generated on-the-fly and presented directly on the view screen without any saved portal pages. This could be done by script or as a MediaWiki program feature, but would initially be done by script. The main benefits of this is that it would be opt-in (only those who wanted it would install it), and the resultant generated pages wouldn't be saved, so that there wouldn't be anything to maintain except the script itself.

Non-portal integrated components[edit]

Another approach would be to focus on implementing specific features independently, and provide them somewhere highly visible in a non-portal presentation context (that is, on a page that wasn't a portal that has lots of traffic, i.e., articles). Such as inserted directly into an article's HTML, as a pop-up there, or as a temporary page. There are scripts that use these approaches (providing unrelated features), and so these approaches have been proven to be feasible.

What kind of features could this be done with?

The various components of the automated portal design are transcluded excerpts, news, did you know, image slideshows, excerpt slideshows, and so on.

Some of the features, such as navigation footers and links to sister projects are already included on article pages. And some already have interface counterparts (such as image slideshows). Some of the rest may be able to be integrated directly via script, but may need further development before they are perfected. Fortunately, scripts are used on an opt-in basis, and therefore wouldn't affect readers-in-general and editors-at-large during the development process (except for those who wanted to be beta testers and installed the scripts).

The development of such scripts falls under the scope of the Javascript-WikiProject/Userscript-department, and will likely be listed on Wikipedia:User scripts/List when completed enough for beta-testing. Be sure to watchlist that page.

Where would that leave curated portals?[edit]

Being curated. At least for the time being.

New encyclopedia program features will likely eventually render most portals obsolete. For example, the pop-up feature of MediaWiki provides much the same functionality as excerpts in portals already, and there is also a slideshow feature to view all the images on the current page (just click on any image, and that activates the slideshow). Future features could also overlap portal features, until there is nothing that portals provide that isn't provided elsewhere or as part of Wikipedia's interface.

But, that may be a ways off. Perhaps months or years. It depends on how rapidly programmers develop them.

Keep on keepin' on[edit]

The features of Wikipedia and its articles will continue to evolve, even if Portals go by the wayside. Most, if not all of portals' functionality, or functions very similar, will likely be made available in some form or other.

And who knows what else?

No worries.

Until next issue...    — The Transhumanist   00:46, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pull request for voteSymbols to fix that "speedy keep delete"[edit]

Hi Pythoncoder, I noticed your latest change to voteSymbols.js didn't actually fix the bug you tried to fix, since the "keep deleted" part will only be matched on the next iteration of the loop. You'll need to peek at the word after and skip using continue or manually increment the counter if it's also a compound. I think this would be the easiest if merging the words and checking if the words should be merged were split into two different fuctions, i.e.

Original function left, split functions right
function mergeWords(a, b, j, k) {
  try {
    if(lowerNoPunct(j[k])==a&&lowerNoPunct(j[k+1])==b) {
      j.splice(k, 2, a+' '+b);
    }
    return j;
  } catch(e) {
    return j;
  }
}

function canMerge(j, k) {
  if (lowerNoPunct(j[k])=='speedy'
    &&lowerNoPunct(j[k+1])=='delete') {
    return true;
  } // (...) elif all the other cases
  return false;
}
function doMerge(j,k) {
  j.splice(k, 2, a+' '+b);
}

and call the functions using while instead of if: 

while(canMerge(j,k)) {
  k++;
} // Increments k until there are no more compounds
doMerge(j,k-1); // Then merge the last

Also, I think it's better to use the old symbols for endorse and overturn at DRV, because sometimes people want to review keep closures as well. I made several other changes to simplify the code and just to test things at a fork I made, if you're interested. Thanks for maintaining this script! Alpha3031 (t • c) 10:56, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have reverted the script to 3.0.4. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 12:17, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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ANI discussion[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is 128.77.80.116 editing/deleting with strong POV. Jayjg (talk) 13:06, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I presume this is because I reverted one of this guy's edits, but the point is moot because the IP has been blocked. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 20:56, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Catalyst Miami[edit]

Thank you for reviewing my earlier effort.

Bearing your notes in mind, I rewrote the article in more original and neutral language. I am not connected to the organization, but I believe it is sufficiently notable to merit inclusion, as evidenced by its consistent presence in news articles, academic studies and government reports, and its long-term influence on the politics and civil society of South Florida.

Would you do me the favor of reviewing my latest draft to see if it is now ready for prime-time?

Thanks again,

Fatseal4848 (talk) 22:12, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fatseal4848, If you believe the article passes Wikipedia's notability guidelines and is neutrally written, you can click the submit button and wait for another user to review it. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 22:22, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Signature update[edit]

Hi, just letting you know that example of your signature in section Miscellaneous is outdated. —⁠andrybak (talk) 14:02, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 14:04, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

H:W listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect H:W. Since you had some involvement with the H:W redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:45, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edit War[edit]

You reached out to me and said I was engaged in an edit war and that I had reverted something that someone else had put back, that is not the case although it may appear that way.

The same information is listed In two separate locations on one Wikipedia (Trump Organization). I have reached out to all parties involved and left full explanation on their talk pages.

Someone has copied information onto the main page, when the exact same information can already be found under the “financial disputes tab” citing the exact same source and using the exact same grammar. PatriotAmerica2019 (talk) 18:03, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on your talk page. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 20:20, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Portal:Adele for deletion[edit]

There is currently a discussion taking place as to whether Portal:Adele should be deleted at MfD.
You are being notified because you were a participant in the previous nomination discussion.
Thank you, –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 21:03, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A Barnstar for you![edit]

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
This is for your valuable efforts for countering Vandalism and protecting Wikipedia from it's threats. I appreciate your effort. You are a defender of Wikipedia. Thank you. PATH SLOPU 09:52, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 12:15, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Update about a script you use[edit]

Hi Pythoncoder. I'm DannyS712 (talk), and I wanted to send you a warning about a change I am making to a script, User:DannyS712/DiscussionCloser, that you currently import. If you are an administrator, feel free to ignore this message. For non-administrators, you should be advised that I am removing the script's automatic addition of {{nac}} to your closes. If you have relied on this to mark such closes for you, please remember to add {{nac}} yourself. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk)

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MacKeeper page changes[edit]

Hi! You reverted edits of MacKeeper page with warnings. Can I ask why do you think I want to use Wikipedia for advertising? All the small changes I made were linked to the changes company made for fixing the problems it had. I linked articles like these https://seekingalpha.com/pr/17507804-mackeeper-accelerates-ambitious-transformation-new-international-senior-team and these https://mackeeper.com/blog/post/547-slippery-partnerships-cancelled/ . Maybe, the features explanation - something you understood as advertising? But the new logo - can I change it? Cause the company doesn't use robot anywhere anymore. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Olehkalynyak (talk • contribs) 07:30, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Olehkalynyak: You can change the logo to the current one. The content added to the lede heavily favors recent developments; the lede should summarizing the whole article rather than containing content not in the rest of the article. The press release mentioned in the lede is too insignificant to include in the lede, meaning its apparent purpose is to promote recent corporate developments. While self-published sources like the official site and press releases are okay for factual information, they cannot be used as a reference for the new version having “significant user experience and design improvements”. If you have a conflict of interest, please disclose it. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 16:14, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar for you[edit]

The Userpage Barnstar
Your user page is one of the best I have seen in a while. Afootpluto (talk) 01:51, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 13:24, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Userbox[edit]

FYI I copied a userbox of yours to m:User:Alexis Jazz/Userboxes/Wikimedia so I could add it to my global user page. - Alexis Jazz 23:23, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Diffs[edit]

I believe ArbCom or at least some of its members are fully aware of what transpired with Fram. If they need clues they can email me. I’ve posted about it already on their notice board. Jehochman Talk 02:13, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 21:42, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CEN is now open![edit]

To all interested parties: Now that it has a proper shortcut, the current events noticeboard has now officially opened for discussion!

WP:CEN came about as an idea I explored through a request for comment that closed last March. Recent research has re-opened the debate on Wikipedia's role in a changing faster-paced internet. Questions of WP:NOTNEWS and WP:Recentism are still floating around. That being said, there are still plenty of articles to write and hopefully this noticeboard can positively contribute to that critical process.

Thank you for your participation in the RFC, and I hope to see you at WP:CEN soon! –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 19:10, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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