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Changing Commons pictures

Here's one of my free uploads Be Lucky

"Hi Joe. Can I advise you that if you're going to upload new versions of pictures on Commons, you check which articles use them before doing so. For example, File:Peter Gabriel The Moonlight Knight (cropped).png is used on Genesis (band), a fairly high-traffic article, and the new version of commons makes the thumbnail image here very stretched and distorted, so I had to revert it. If you are planning to make any other changes, drop a note on any affected article's talk pages first and check there's a consensus first, otherwise readers will get a surprise."

Ok, I've already been warned and blocked, as you may not know I've vowed not to crop images anymore, and if I can upload free ones I will.
Regards,
Joe Vitale 5 (talk) 11:52, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I didn't know that - I don't hang out on Commons much. I wouldn't go as far as blocking you, but I think the blocking admin ought to have either reverted the problematic edits or asked you to do them as a condition of the unblock. However, for reasons I'd really not want to go into, I don't think Russavia is going to be particularly interested in the use of Commons pictures over here. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:57, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I didn't mean to cause offence. Joe Vitale 5 (talk) 12:00, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Don't worry - you didn't. I assumed good faith you were trying to help, which you were. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:01, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Who Is Russavia?. Joe Vitale 5 (talk) 12:09, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

He's the admin on Commons who blocked you. I can't ping him on this Wikipedia because he's banned here. That's all you need to know, and I think this thread of discussion is best closed. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:23, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I don't want to dig into something that seems to be personal, so this discussion is now closed. Joe Vitale 5 (talk) 13:59, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Friend Request

Hi, Ritchie333, I'd like to add you to my friend list on my user page. (If you do so, it means I will discuss my edits more with you, and shall ask you for your help with edits, and I will if ever needed help you) Just let me know, all my best wishes and kind regards. Joe Vitale 5 (talk) 12:05, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

You can if you want, but I personally prefer to be known by my article edits and contributions, not by who I am or any discussions I get involved with. That's why the very top of my userpage has a list to all articles I have taken to good article status (there used to be Did you know? nominations, but there are too many to fit now). If you do good work around here on articles, people will notice and pick up on it. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:26, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

A Pint For You!

You said that you didn't like Barnstars as opposed to drink, so drink up and keep up with all of your great work. Joe Vitale 5 (talk) 12:24, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Special:Block

Hello. Just so you know a link to Special:Block does not block a user when clicked by an admin. It takes them to their block log which was my intention with the link. Once on that page the option to block is there but it is not automatic. I used that link because it was the simplest way to link to the block log.

Given your concerns I have regardless replaced the link to a more specific link that only shows the log of that user by that admin. Chillum 17:23, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Ah right. Since I'm not an admin (some day that may change but not today), I clicked on it expecting a diff, saw a "you are not authorised to do this" and put two and two together. Going to the block log sounds like a better deal. I have tried it on another wiki where I am an admin but have never needed to block anyone and it does indeed behave as you describe.
I originally created the LTA page because I was fed up of the same incidents occuring on ANI and AN3, typically coming away with a warning or 24h block, and just wanted somewhere to tie all the information together. Since you can't really file an RFC/U or an Arbcom case against an IP, and SPIs are hard to find, this sounds like the best option. It's not "abuse" per se as the article edits are mostly okay - rather it's the repeated block evasion, edit-warring and civility which is problematic. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:28, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
I did not realize that type of link did not show the logs to non-admins, I have been an admin so long. It is good you created the case page as this is exactly a case of long term abuse. Between the block evasion, incivility and edit warring I would call this abuse. While many of this users edits are okay they do not edit in a collaborative way. Thanks for the perspective on the links, I will be sure to use the public logs in the future. Chillum 17:32, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for the barnstar and the compliment! It really means a lot. If anything, I had personally thought of anyone else out of the competition that you should win the GA Cup as your reviews have been very detailed and professional. I have always reviewed a lot of articles but my determination to reduce the backlog leaves me with a feeling like I'm contributing to something. I'm finding the fourth round tough, but who knows what the final round will bring. Best, ☯ Jaguar ☯ 11:42, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the support! I don't know what my overall score is at the moment, but if the judges say everything checks out, I think we'd both be on over 200 by now. I've definitely found I'm getting faster at reviewing GAs without dropping quality and can rattle off a whole bunch of stock phrases, and tackle material I wouldn't have thought about previously, such as Beer in San Diego County, California. It's been a good exercise. What has obviously suffered is I haven't improved any articles to GA recently myself, there's only Haim (band) in the queue, and if that goes, it will be the first time in well over 2 years I haven't had at least one there. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:49, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
I hope it's not too premature to say this, but at our rate it looks like both of us will be promoted to the final round (at least I really hope so)! I too have slightly improved on reviewing skills gradually, but I too am bringing less articles to GA myself. I currently have Lyndhurst, Hampshire up at GAN and I have only had at least three GAs in the last three months (although I have a massive list for future GANs, but that's for after the GA Cup). Regards ☯ Jaguar ☯ 16:26, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Lyndhurst is on my radar (are you sure it's a "large village" and not a "town"?) to review, and will probably be the next one I pick up. I wouldn't put any bets on who gets through to the final myself - FWIW Peacemaker67 is, in my view, the dark horse of this cup, quietly churning out Military History GA reviews at a pretty prolific rate, all of which are worth far more points then a Boat Race review. I am slowly working on improving Genesis (band) to GA, but that's a long way off (I've only done copyediting and resourcing up to mid-1971, with a single good book source). I was wondering if I could do Felicity Kendal (oo-er) as I noticed a number of broadsheet retrospectives of her career are online, and hopefully Google Books can throw up a biography or two. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:58, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
It's often mistaken for a town being the 'capital' of the New Forest but Lyndhurst is in fact a village.[1] I think there are only three towns left in the New Forest (Bournemouth used to be). If you could review it in the future that will be great, I suppose I could clean it up in the mean time and expand it a little as I have some more information to use. The trouble is with the GA Cup (or what I'm finding anyway) is that it diverts a lot of time away from actual content building! That being said, I'm going to work on a couple of articles to bring up to a GA and I think I'll give the reviews a rest for a couple of days. The last round is going to be very interesting - only five contestants and 400 reviews! ☯ Jaguar ☯ 20:00, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for The Boat Race 1877

Harrias talk 12:02, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

YOGACHARYA TAPAN BOSE MAHASHAY

Dear Ritchie,

Hope all is well.

I wish to resubmit the article. Small references given. This person is a well known public figure. I met him and Interviewed him. I gave a link to him and other refs. Please approve. If you could modify it yourself to make suitable for Wikipedia You are welcome to do that. Let me know. Thank you for your attention. Link https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ritchie333&oldid=641376749 — Preceding unsigned comment added by LAKULISH (talk • contribs) 14:14, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

I seem to be throwing all my problems over him today, but Sitush is my "go to" guy for anything on middle Asian topic. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:19, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Kathleen Andrews Submission

Hi Ritchie333,

I would like to thank you for helping me submit Kathleen Andrews legacy to Wikipedia. Wow!!!!! You Made my day as I've been trying for a very long time!! THANK YOU!!!

Im very new to Wikipedia, so I am not sure how to do this but in Kathleen Andrews story, it listed her as First Female Dispatcher, and thats true, but she was also the First Female ETS Bus Operator, First Female Dispatcher and First Female in ETS Management. The emphasis on the First female Bus Operator should be first, if that's possible.

I look forward to hearing from you and a BIG THANK YOU for all of your help!!!

Take care

Lisa Andrews — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skylaa (talk • contribs) 15:36, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

@Skylaa: Thanks for your note. I guess Kathleen Andrews was your mother (as noted in the CHED radio source)? I regularly chat about these types of articles with my other half, who had been trying to get an article on her uncle, Rockie Charles, created for some time before we moved in together. Often I think the best way of getting these articles up on Wikipedia is to ask a neutral third party (in the case of Kathleen Andrews, that was me) to do it. I think all regular Wikipedia editors should stay in contact with people who don't contribute often or at all, as it helps remain sympathetic to their requirements as a reader.
As for this article, I've added a note on being the first female ETS operator from one of the news sources, but personally I think "bus driver" doesn't sound as good as "transport manager", let alone being commemorated by the city council. As it is, I think what's in the article is a concise but helpful explanation of who this person is, that people who encounter the transport office will want to look up. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:09, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Ika Hügel-Marshall

Nice expansion work! I guess you must have gotten your hands on a copy of her book? --MelanieN (talk) 17:35, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

I've got hold of a preview copy that has some of it. If I can get the whole thing, this can easily go to GA. I have been profoundly touched by Ika's story, as my other half is African-American and my stepkids are half black, and one of my best friends is Jewish with Polish ancestry. I am glad none of that lot have to go through the events described in this autobiography. This story should be put out there to the wide Wikipedia audience. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:42, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
I wish we could get a picture of her! I wondered about using her book cover, but that seems to be forbidden per Wikipedia:Non-free content#Unacceptable use. --MelanieN (talk) 17:46, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
No, I looked for free images, but couldn't find any. I was hoping someone would have taken a shot of her at a lecture or reading, but there doesn't seem to be anything. There seem to be few images of her, full stop. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:18, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Awarded to Ritchie333.

For his particularly fine contributions to Wikipedia, always remember that your hard work is seen and appreciated.
Regards,
Joe Vitale 5 (talk) 17:24, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

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Skool Daze was probably one of my favourite ever games when I was a young'un. My kids love playing Klass of '99, a 1999 remake of the original. Of course, it helps I used to read The Beano every week and could see the obvious inspiration from Dennis the Menace and The Bash Street Kids. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:00, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Are yes, I loved Dennis and Maggie the Minx too!! Bless. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:07, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

References

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I've got another one for you

Want to help clean up the article Frank R. Beckwith? I found it at New Pages Patrol in sad shape, but an interesting and worthy subject. Interesting side point: At a book reference I found, the author was complaining about the lack of information about the subject and said "I could not find information about him in Wikipedia, which is unusual." That state of affairs is going to end. Are you in? --MelanieN (talk) 22:31, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

I've got to do stuff in the real world today, but I see he has quite a bit of coverage in Jet and other books, so when I've got a mo, I'll see what I can do. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:07, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
I went to pull some things from those sources, but it looks like you've already got that covered. I might see if there's anything in the newspaper archives. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:11, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
Yes, my information mostly came from Google Books - where luckily Jet Magazine is archived in book form. It's strange that there is so little information about him. The only actual biographical information I found was in a very shaky reference, a book with a basically anonymous author; I hated to use that information but I didn't have any other source. There is lots of coverage in Jet, but it's all incidents and details, not enough to build a biography. I found a hint that he also ran for Congress in 1962, but I couldn't pin it down. BTW his first wife is at least as interesting as he is, but she already has an article here. Anyhow, I think I've done enough to establish notability; even if it isn't a very complete article, maybe the best we can do. --MelanieN (talk) 21:24, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
I found a bit more from Indiana State Library which has an obituary referenced from an old newspaper, and popped a few other facts in. I suspect old newspapers will be the main source of information, if you've got a suitable subscription (I've got the British Newspaper Archive, but obviously that won't cover Indiana, will it?) I'm loathe to suggest that the Republican Party covered up his notability and were uncomfortable about an African-American achieving substantial success and recognition, but I wonder what other reason is for reliable sources to pass him by? Anyway, he's definitely notable, that bit is assured. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:41, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
Oh, for Pete's sake! The original article contained some blatant misinformation, and I totally didn't catch it. The original article said he ran in 1960, and said Nixon ultimately won the nomination, which Nixon did - in 1960. But in fact Beckwith ran in 1964 - as confirmed by numerous Jet articles as well as the Political Graveyard.[2] I have corrected the information, and I am trouting myself for missing such an obvious error. --MelanieN (talk) 02:29, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
BTW I don't think we need conspiracy theories to explain why he almost vanished from the historical record. He was a minor candidate, and we know how little respect minor candidates get here on Wikipedia, and in the world at large. In 1964 the Republican party was still to some extent the "Party of Lincoln", they could have been proud to have a black candidate. Well, come to think of it, the 1964 election was the pivot point where the South, and the southern segregationists, switched from Democrat to Republican. Lyndon Johnson (who did win in 1964, but without any support from the South, which voted Republican en bloc) was reported to have said when he signed the Civil Rights Bill that it meant the Democrats would lose the South for a generation. He was off by several generations, as it turned out. --MelanieN (talk) 02:38, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
US politics isn't my chosen specialist subject, but while researching More popular than Jesus for a GA, I was surprised at how conservative the American South was in the 1960s. I knew it was anyway, but I guess you had to be there. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:01, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

FYI

Hello R. I saw your post about pings not working. I don't understand any of the technical details (which is why I've come to your talk page rather than posting there) but I wanted to let you know that using {{ping|NAME}} has not worked for me for over two months and that include at least 8 different editors on several different pages trying to contact me with it. {{u|NAME}} has worked consistantly. I have also seen {{reply to|NAME}} on several pages though no one has used it to contact me. Hopefully this is of some help to you. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 14:55, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

@Martinevans123: - does this work? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:39, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Yes. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:28, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
@MarnetteD: - does this work? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:40, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
I'm worried about this, as I ping people who submit questions to the Articles for creation Help Desk (or come to my talk page for similar reasons) all the time so they catch the response. If they are getting dropped on the floor, that's a problem. The ping / echo facility is a great feature and one that I make regular use of. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:41, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
This worked R and that is the first one since November! The mysteries of wikiprogramming never cease to amaze. As I say {{u|NAME}} has worked when others have contacted me without fail since these were added a year or so ago. MarnetteD|Talk 15:46, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Well, now I know to ping and sign in the same post, I think I'll have more success from now on, but if people have got to remember special rules like this, human nature means they'll forget one day and pings are going to be at the risk of not working unless editors use the magic dance. Oh well, it is logged as a bug. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:53, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Fuck It, We'll Do It Live/GA1

Thanks very much for the well-thought-out and thorough review, Ritchie333. I've gone through and done my best to address your helpful recommendations. I've noted my responses in the edit summaries. I think the article looks a lot better now for it. Thanks again, — Cirt (talk) 02:48, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

First Edit Advice/Direction?

Cymru am byth

Thank you for the Welcome! I do have question if you have minutes to spare. For my first edit I was hoping to update an outdated profile picture of Illustrator Rebecca Guay on her wiki page. How do I go about that? Thanks in advance!

NudgyDragon (talk) 17:05, 13 January 2015 (UTC)NudgyDragon

@NudgyDragon: - provided that the picture of Rebecca Guay was taken by you, the simplest way is to click here for the "Files for upload" process and follow the instructions given there. Your file will be queued, and you'll be told if it was accepted, at which point, you can replace the existing picture. Alternatively, drop me a line on here and I can update the article. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:09, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
@Ritchie333: - After reading through the instructions, the photo I have is one taken at the illustration master class. Therefore since it's on my computer and not posted elsewhere on the web I'm assuming it will be rejected. I don't really want to start up a flickr just for this one photo. Can I get image approval through you? Or would you be able to replace it with the new image I have? NudgyDragon (talk) 18:49, 13 January 2015 (UTC)NudgyDragon
@NudgyDragon: - Okay, probably the next thing we could try is to wait four days and ensure you have ten edits (you currently have three). Then you will be autoconfirmed and you will be able to upload files yourself from your computer. The problem I have found is that if I upload images made by somebody else, it's hard to prove that I really did have approval from the original photographer, which is why I always recommend editors doing it themselves. Is there anything else you would like to do on Wikipedia in the meantime? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:55, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

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About Yellowknifer... and hopefully Switched-On Bach II, too

Hi Ritchie333. Goodness gracious, I never knew what I write is actually seriously! Next RfA that comes along, I'll remember to mention - no doubt completely out of context - Switched-On Bach, and hope that it will magically make it become available on CD. Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 09:01, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

I thought your RfA question was excellent - I regularly stalk CSDs and revert ones that I don't think meet the criteria, and every now and again (eg: The White Mandingos), I rescue one and bring it to DYK. Anyway, regarding Switched-On Bach, a vitally important album that really should be a GA if I'm honest .... I have a copy of Keyboard Magazine Presents Vintage Synthesizers which has a lengthy interview with Wendy Carlos explaining her pioneering role in synthesized classical music. Many Brits of a certain age will recall portions of Carlos playing Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme (or at least I think it's that and Gerda Arendt will trout slap me if I have the wrong piece) on the Kenny Everett Show during his Marcel Marceau parody pieces. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:40, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
That was a real crossover album, wasn't it. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:16, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Martin, I appreciate you were trying to be funny, but Carlos has said in several interviews she is sick to the back teeth of journalists banging on about her being transgender, and it has very little to do with her professional music and composition career. [3] Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:20, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Who said anything about "bashing"? I'll get my (over-sized) coat. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:28, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
I don't doubt Wendy is fed up. And that her gender identity has nothing to do with his or her music. But I've always had a slight difficulty with that first line of the Switched-On Bach article. It's a bit like saying that Tea for the Tillerman was recorded by Yusuf Islam? Or that the Beatles grew up in Merseyside? etc etc. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:03, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
If you fret over those, don't read this or this. Or, indeed, this Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:05, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
I’ve visited the beautiful Derry and can assure you that they still have cheddar cheese and pineapple on a stick|!! Martinevans123 (talk) 12:00, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
I totally and and utterly reject your keep !vote on that AfD, Mrs Buncefield. Let me be in any doubt, these are crocodile tears which you cry, you heartless loathsome bitch! On a serious note, I'm not sure that William Ulsterman was just parodying Paisley, but just the whole stereotype of Unionist MPs. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:04, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
I'm sure Harry would see that as a finer achievement. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:19, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Wachet auf and participate in the merge (or replace) discussion. It doesn't matter if you never used those templates, - I bet most of those supporting a 2007 thing without image and camel case parameters also didn't. - There are several melodies of Wachet auf, the original and the simplified one Bach set. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:34, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2015 January 15#Seth Andrews

Hi Ritchie333. You wrote at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2015 January 15#Seth Andrews:

I did find a small amount of independent and reliable third-party coverage, but I don't think it was more than a few sentences. That's not enough to sustain a BLP.

At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seth Andrews, I found several sources that provided entire articles of coverage about Seth Andrews. See this article from Tulsa World, this article from the Abilene Reporter-News, and this article from Arizona Daily Sun. I think these sources are sufficient to establish notability. Do you consider these sources insufficient? Cunard (talk) 19:19, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

@Cunard: The problem I find with BLPs is that we need to be conservative and err on the side of not including information. The sources given are news pieces about him, but they're local, regional, material. Ideally, I find for a BLP to stick, you need to have sources appearing again and again in national news, or even better, books and magazines. The second question is to ask yourself, if we can't have an article on Andrews, could we mention him in another one? Well, we could put something in Atheism, but for a major reaching topic, we'd again need sustained news coverage over an extended period of time for his views to stick. To be fair, I am arguing the same from the other side with Sonia Poulton, and while I have found about 25 sources over several decades, I still think "would she really be upset if she didn't have a Wikipedia article?" It's worth asking yourself the same question about Andrews. I realise the conversation in that AfD was a little frayed, but it's not personal (well, from me it certainly wasn't) and often I find that BLP and corporate articles really don't gain that much from WP presence if their name is unique enough to appear elsewhere on a Google search. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:42, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
I am approaching this from the view: "Does the subject meet Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, and are there enough reliable sources such that a polished draft of the subject would not need to resort to original research and would comply with BLP?"

I think the sources I found would meet these criteria.

I am not approaching this from the view "would Seth Andrews be upset if he didn't have a Wikipedia article" or "would he gain from having a Wikipedia presence"? I don't think those questions are relevant.

The only relevant related question would be "does Seth Andrews want his Wikipedia article deleted" in which case I would support deletion per subject's request. But that hasn't happened here.

Tulsa World is a major newspaper newspaper. I think the subject meets WP:GNG and WP:BIO but it seems like you have a stricter requirement.

If Sonia Poulton passes WP:GNG (I haven't checked), then I would support keeping. Cunard (talk) 20:55, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

The basic problem with guidelines like GNG is that they only go so far. The longest and most complex AfDs come down to differing interpretations of them (what's "significant" to one isn't necessarily to another), and it's a tricky subject. Anyway, if you can overturn the AfD to "no consensus", that's all well and good. An alternative is you could ask for the article to be put into draft, which might be a more suitable alternative than outright deletion, and something I think we need to do more of. In any case, make sure that all the good sources you have mentioned go in, and base the article on those. I've probably overdone Sonia Poulton a bit, in effect I've rewritten the majority of the article with completely new sources. In any case, I hope you get the result you want. Happy editing! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:30, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Barnstar of Diligence

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Thank you for your efforts to improve referencing in articles on living people by removing sub-standard sources in accordance with WP:BLPSOURCES. Keep up the good work. John (talk) 20:57, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

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JC's Girls

Given that Neelix is retired and the article is so close, I'd be willing to complete the changes and address the concerns if you would be willing to complete a review following its completion. From one editor to another, the work is indeed good and it will restore some faith in the community for Neelix. After all, Neelix has done a lot of work for Wikipedia. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 16:53, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

I've had a think about it this, and while it's a good idea for somebody to go through the points I raised (particularly the BLP violations, excess content, claims that failed verification and most importantly all the images that make it look like something out of The Sun or the Daily Star), I think it's best just leaving the review be for the minute. It needs quite a bit of work to reach GA status, and everything Neelix related seems to have turned into a drama-fest, so I'd rather concentrate on other things, particularly as I have got a bit of a backlog at the moment and not much time. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:46, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Je suis Charlie

Thanks for helping free speech Victuallers (talk) 15:14, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

It'll be interesting to see how much traffic this article takes from being linked in DYK - over the weekend during the news spike it had over 131,000 readers in one day. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:20, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

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You-know-what

Ritchie, I just don't understand what you're doing. I've addressed every issue you (or anyone else) has raised, and you've either endorsed what I've done or just not responded when I asked whether what I did is OK. I have to insist that you now either pass the article or say what specific thing in the article fails what specific point of GACR; otherwise maybe someone else should take over the review. Would that be better? Since Martinevans123 apparently made a pass over your comments once before (and commented here and there) maybe he'd be a good choice. EEng (talk) 01:11, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

  • The issues were discussed and either resolved or (in the case of quotations and images), disputed. There was never a case where I could say "yes, every single action point is agreed between us as satisfactory", and the second opinion editor felt worse. After three weeks, a GA review should be in a position like Talk:Gladstone, Oregon/GA1, which only has a few copyedits and a decision on whether to keep something - not much. I've explained what you can do next to go forward with this and what you're options are. I have closed the review in good faith following the procedure, and your options are to go to WP:GAR to challenge this, start a new review with someone else, or raise a peer preview request. Now, I feel it's best this discussion is closed. See you on WT:DYK. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:11, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
You have not followed the procedure. WP:Good_article_nominations/Instructions#Failing requires you to "Leave instructions on the review page indicating what needs further improvement." Now, for the nth time, what needs further improvement? If it's any of the things you listed at Talk:Widener_Library/GA1#Images then say why my explanations there aren't sufficient, and what you think still needs doing. If it's about quotations, then say why the actions I took in response to DGG's comments aren't sufficient, and what you think still needs doing. You can't say there's dispute if you raise an issue, I answer it, and you just say "I quit." EEng (talk) 14:09, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

I don't have time for this. I have a family, children, job and limited spare time, which I like to spend improving articles, not answering seemingly neverending points of order. The problems with quotations and images are still there - I do not believe the article meets the GA criteria because of this and there are avenues you can peruse if you are unhappy. This discussion is now closed. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:15, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

A Little Help Here....

Hey Ritchie333, I was wondering if you'd be able to help me promote "Alexander O'Neal" to at least GA, I've created like four or five articles for his albums some minor work on his actual page etc. and I was wondering if you'd like to help. Joe Vitale 5 (talk) 20:57, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

  • If I get an hour or two, I'll see what I can rummage up, but I've got a stack of "things to do" on here that seems to be getting ever larger :-/ Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:40, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Mississippi Highway 548

Hi, Ritchie! I have reviewed your DYK nomination Template:Did you know nominations/Mississippi Highway 548 and I have a couple of questions about the hook. Want to see if you or the author can resolve them? --MelanieN (talk) 02:35, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

I've replied and pinged some more experienced editors who may be able to help. In my head, I wonder if this chap lived along that road? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:39, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I hated to quibble with one of your nominations, but I was doing my QPQ and there it was. I had just completed a rescue you'll appreciate: from expired prod to DYK nominee - The Boy Who Fell Out of the Sky. (I may turn out to be a lousy administrator. I had set out to work on expired prods, but after a couple of deletions I spent the rest of the day on this article. My admin hat just falls off when I see rescuable stuff. Look, something shiny!) --MelanieN (talk) 22:13, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
No, that's fine, I am usually happy with constructive criticism - I've done enough GA reviews to take all of it in good faith, knowing it usually makes the article better! Plus, the background to the highway one is I recommended it not pass GA, it did anyway, and I did the DYK as a gesture of goodwill. Anyway, nice rescue - and for what it's worth all my favourite admins (quick wave to Drmies and Floquenbeam) do regular amounts of article work. It keeps you fresh and have more experience on why policies might apply, not just a laundry list of what they are. I've done a few saves myself recently, but the one sticking out from the last week is this. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 22:21, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Nice catch and well deserved trout to the nominator; apparently they never read WP:ACADEMIC. BTW turns out he's not just a "distinguished professor" - he actually holds a named professorship. I added that to the lead. I am kind of amazed the road article passed GA. --MelanieN (talk) 23:33, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Oh, I see it's already at GA review. --MelanieN (talk) 04:04, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Briarcliff

Hi again Ritchie,

Having dealt with Briarcliff Middle School, I was wondering whether you'd be up to reviewing its replacement, Briarcliff Manor School District. I'd really appreciate that.

Thanks,
ɱ (talk · vbm) 00:56, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks so much for doing this. I'm kinda confused by what you added to the article though: what does "Demand for school places is high due to its strong performance and ratings" mean?--ɱ (talk · vbm) 21:30, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Jaywick

The article Jaywick you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Jaywick for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jaguar -- Jaguar (talk) 17:00, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Jaywick

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Million award

Are you one of the people managing WP:MILLION? I have an aging request on the talk page for a review of two articles. I'm guessing it was overlooked. Anyway, I just need a second person to check my math. Cheers, – Maky « talk » 15:44, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

@Maky: I don't really manage anything, but I have done a bit of caretaking on WP:MILLION and do keep an eye out for high-traffic articles. The easiest way to see if something is worth these awards is to go to the article, click on "History", and go to "Page view statistics". Click on "90" (for 90 days), and multiply the figure you see by (365/90). By doing that, I can see that Lemur has about 314,000 annual hits, while Slow Loris has about 417,000, so both can have quarter million awards. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:49, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for looking. The popularity of the "Slow loris" article waxes and wanes with each viral YouTube video. When I calculated it, I used September through November (63,040 + 39,711 + 27,013 = 129,764; x4.06 = 526,841) because it was recently on TFA (in December). Either way, do we assign the award ourselves? I'm more used to the Four Award, where we'd nominate ourselves and the nominations would be processed. – Maky « talk » 16:46, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
I think it's a more informal thing. Straight million awards for the table do get checked out, but for a quarter million award, I don't see anything wrong with putting the box on your userpage, if that's what you want. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:56, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for explaining and taking a moment to look at my stuff. – Maky « talk » 17:16, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Jaywick

"Congratulations on winning the election, meet us for a pint at the Mermaid Inn, Brooklands Gardens", they said. Were they taking the piss? I am not happy and I want my copper wire back now.
Why not try a holiday in Jaywick this year? (N.B. remember to take your own fresh food and pub entertainment)
"Eyes down .... two-and-four, twenty four" .... "Gandhi's Breakfast? not in this pub, mate."

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:04, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

GA Cup - The Finals

WikiProject Good Articles's 2014-15 GA Cup - Round 5/Final

GA Cup competitors and observers: Get ready, we're about to move into the finals of the inaugural GA Cup! Not nearly as important as another competition taking place this weekend, but significant none the less. No deflated footballs here, though!

Thursday saw the end of Round 4. Out of the 8 contestants in the semi-finals, 5 have moved to the finals. The semi-finals continued to be very competitive. The highest scorer overall was Ritchie333 from Pool B, with an impressive 488 points and a total of 36 articles reviewed, the most of any competitor; close behind was Jaguar (last round's wildcard), with 477 points and 29 reviews. At times, the competition between them was a real horse-race, and exciting for the judges to witness. Both Ritchie333 and Jaguar have moved onto the finals. In Pool A, Good888 with 294 points, and Wizardman with 179 also won slots in the final. 3family6 with 285 points, won the wildcard slot. We also had one withdrawal, due to outside-of-Wikipedia priorities. Congrats to all!

Although there were just 8 competitors, more reviews were conducted this round than in any other round—148, which demonstrates the commitment and enthusiasm of our participants. The most successful competitors, like in all previous rounds, reviewed articles that languished in the queue at GAC for at least five months (worth 18 points). The Boat Race articles were popular review choices again, with almost 20% of the articles reviewed this month.

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@Dom497: - I think the "prize" I most deserve after this is a break from GA reviewing! I can't believe I managed to do all those reviews, good grief.... Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:46, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Pink cat

Harrias talk 12:02, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

For @Fylbecatulous: - everyone loves a cat on the internet. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:08, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Many congratulations on your wonderful article and the DYK front page honour. These cats are awesome. I will have a good day because of this. Thanks for thinking of me. (meow, purr...) all the best and continued happy editing. ツ Fylbecatulous talk 13:48, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Last week, we finally reglazed the hole in the back door where the cat flap once stood .... there are just too many cats in my street, it seems everyone has them, and they all mix and go into each other's gardens, and came in and tried to eat Suede's food. You can't easily defend yourself when you're an 18-year old cat. I'd been wondering about getting a new cat after Suede passed away just over a year ago, but I think for now we'll have a break and concentrate on a different kind of house guest - children. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:04, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Great name. Did he make the same whiney mewing sounds as Brett Anderson? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:01, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Not really! You'll have to give the RSPCA credit for her name, as she was named as such when I got her from the shelter. I did name another cat Buffy after the eponymous slayer, though my Buffy was more interested in frogs. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:05, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Aw. I would like the idea of a cat flap and gardens and outdoor cats. Where I live we have animal control to strictly pick up all strays. All outdoor cats are to be collared, tagged and vaccinated. In my flat complex we have share-adopted the only roaming cat larger than the geese. We named him Sam and he is black with quite stiff fur and is very gentle. He eats well and gets lots of attention. My personal cat was Fearless, a rescued feral long-haired tortoiseshell, who lived to 13. She was not terribly well named (I named her for a cocker spaniel on a television program). She was terrified of all visitors and was like owning a Jekyl and Hyde. She always greeted me with a wonderful chirrup and was very affectionate but strangers would get a lashing. Even her veterinarian was afraid of her. I shall now remember to honour Suede when I think of Fearless. (I have a cat shrine in her favourite window...shhhh). Fylbecatulous talk 13:54, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
Somebody's had their fresh chicken.....
I'd have gone insane over litter trays, thank goodness for cats going outdoors. When you get cats from rescue shelters (as I and Eric have done), they sometimes are skittish. If you hear some of the stories from the shelters, it's really quite horrible what people can think of and do to cats. I would never get a dog because I know how much maintenance they require regards walking, food and attention, and that's nothing against dogs or their owners. Cats are "low maintenance" pets, but you've still got to feed them and take care of them, and if you don't wrap up a chicken carcass very carefully and take it to the outside wheelie bin immediately, then woe betide you when Suede's "chicken radar" activates. Still, Suede really loved her chicken - I can remember her looking at a plate of KFC popcorn chicken on my lap, lifting up a paw and trying to swipe some of it! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:15, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Josh Walker GA

Hi, I see you passed Josh Walker for GA, but Checklinks shows four dead URLs. Prose such as "On 19 April 2012, Walker signed for the club on a permanent basis on free transfer on July 2012. Walker signed a one-year contract with them.[57]" seems not to make sense. Could you double-check? Thanks, C679 15:23, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

  • I've had all sorts of problem with the external link script on Tools, which times out half the time I try and use it, but AFIAK I did manually click on each and every online source during the review to check the information. The lead prose was done after the review, and the nominator didn't indicate they'd done everything so I missed that - sorry about that! I've done a bit of a copyedit on it. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:29, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
I've had problems with it too. Article looks better though, so thanks for the improvements. Thanks, C679 15:42, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
I've gone through and done another copyedit - there were some other prose issues as well. Really sorry about that - I don't know what else to say, I pride myself of being a very thorough GA reviewer who digs deep into sources and checks things thoroughly. I do admit that sometimes I have read somebody saying "done" to an action point I raised, briefly checked a diff and thought "yup, they have" without going into the full depth on the initial sweep (largely because checking off 45 action points takes forever), and I'm pretty sure the problematic prose wasn't in the article as first reviewed. Anyway, I think everything's fixed so hopefully that's resolved. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:48, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

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