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Draft:Alyce Mills

Could you please help dig up a couple more sources for this subject? Thanks. Also Draft:Jana Lund. Draft:Jean Sothern also seems slam dunk notable to me. But waiting on a review. What do you think about Draft:Effie Conley? And finally, I found the work of African Americam WPA writers in Florida very interesting. I started writing up Draft:Viola B. Muse but I don't know if she's independently notable? Maybe an article 9n the broader project? I don't know. Zora Neale Hurston gets a lot of coverage for her involvement but I don't know that herwork was more.important than that of others. Thanks for any in$ights or assistance you can provide. FloridaArmy (talk) 00:36, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

FloridaArmy archive.org, [1], [2],[3],[4], [5], [6], [7], [8],[9] Too late to work on the other ones. Will try to help tomorrow. SusunW (talk) 05:38, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
Lund:[10],[11],[12],[13] SusunW (talk) 14:50, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
Sothern:[14], [15],[16], [17],[18],[19] SusunW (talk) 15:24, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
Conley: I see nothing that would equate to significant coverage. Lots of press, lots of one-liners that their various acts all over the country were well received, but nothing near what would be required for significant, IMO.[20], [21], [22], [23],[24] I'm also really confused by the death info you have linked. That find-a-grave notice is for Effie Stafford who married Charlie Conley, but your subject is Effie Conley, who married Fred Warren. It seems quite probable that your Effie is this woman, Effie M. Conley[25], [26], [27] (you may have to create a sign in to freely access the records). I'm also not convinced that Effie Conley's dancing partner Fred Warren is the same person as the actor E. Alyn Warren, as your source here claims. 1) his death notice says nothing about being a dancer[28] and 2) if the Effie M. is correctly identified above, her husband was Frederick H. Warren, not E. Alyn. You probably need someone who is more familiar with entertainment to help you sort this out. That is definitely not me. SusunW (talk) 16:37, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
Muse is probably the only one on this list that already in the draft has significant coverage to verify her notability. As she is a black women, and I have no access to the Associated Negro Press or any US libraries that would have collections on African Americans, sourcing is difficult, but you have a complete bio in that Jacksonville Historical Society piece from a RS. I also find start at p 371 and [29] have coverage of Muse, so you are not relying on a single source, nor information produce "by her". SusunW (talk) 17:09, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
FloridaArmy I hope the information above is helpful. If you are going to write on historical female figures, your best sources are usually newspapers, archive.org, hathitrust, etc. You will rarely find enough information in a google search of the web to meet wp requirements. I don't know if you are aware of the WiR essay about writing women's articles, but perhaps you will find it helpful. Let me know if I can help further. SusunW (talk) 17:16, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Fabulous!!! Thanks so much. The clip of Lund in the opening scene of Frankenstein 1970 was interesting. Is there any way to verify that the actress Jean Sothern is the same as the author of "Thumbs Up"? I only turned up copyright notices. Two Effie Conleys!!! Yes, it was strange that she was hanging about in Kentucky. Effie is a pretty unusual name these days I think. Thanks so much. FloridaArmy (talk) 17:58, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

No doubt to me. She is identified in the clip about the book as the actress playing "Edie" in Pepper Young's Family, which other clippings verify is the same person. I think all of these, except Conley (at this point) have enough information to write a bio and meet significant coverage. SusunW (talk) 18:15, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Betty Brown (actress) is one I got tangled up on. Do you think one or more of them are worth a write up? FloridaArmy (talk) 18:01, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

I'll look at this one tomorrow. SusunW (talk) 18:15, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Fabulous!!! Thanks so much. The clip of Lund in the opening scene of Frankenstein 1970 on Youtube was interesting.

Is there any way to verify that the actress Jean Sothern is the same as the author of "Thumbs Up"? I only turned up copyright notices.

Two Effie Conleys!!! Yes, it was strange that she was hanging about in Kentucky. Effie is a pretty unusual name these days I think. Thanks so much. FloridaArmy (talk) 17:58, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

FloridaArmy, very weird that this posted twice at the exact same time stamp, but I answered above. SusunW (talk) 18:56, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
Oops. I had a weird edit conflict. Sorry about that. Thanks for your help. O tried to remove the Betty Brown comment. I think it's all one person. FloridaArmy (talk) 19:01, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Patsy Mink

On 6 May 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Patsy Mink, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after twelve medical schools rejected her applications, partly because of her gender, U.S. congresswoman Patsy Mink (pictured) became a lawyer instead? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Patsy Mink. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Patsy Mink), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:01, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Fantastic, well done!† Encyclopædius 16:28, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Doc. If I can ever get the photographs worked through, may try to take her to FA, but we'll see what the future holds. ;) SusunW (talk) 16:36, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

re: Maria Zandbang

In all honesty, I am not sure what are the specifics of adding 'owa' to some female surnames in Poland; it is an old custom and a form of conjugation (or rather, possessive I think - Zandbag's would be the literary translation, I think, also possibly related to Grammatical gender) I will ping User:Nihil novi - context of the question is at User_talk:Piotrus#Help?. If you'd like to read more about this particular issue, here are some sources - the first one has an abstract in English: [30], [31]. I will try to look for some sources for you when I can. Regarding photos, [32] is obviously published so it is ok, but I can't access the first one, link is broken for me. Regarding publication, this is crazy (and part of Wikipedia's copyright paranoia, nobody cares about those nuances of copyright outside our community; see my recent question at commons:Commons_talk:Publication#Does_the_copyright_lasts_indefinitely_if_an_image_was_not_published?, and for general reference, commons:User:Piotrus/PolishCopyright. Re the 1926 published photo, yes, PD-Polish should work. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:17, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

"Zandbangowa" would be "Mrs. Zandbang". "Zandbangówna" would be "Miss Zandbang".
The two endings may not now be used universally: often, I think, only when it is important to indicate whether the person being referred to is the husband (no similar ending), the wife (-owa), or the daughter (-ówna) without having to add, before the female's surname, respectively, "pani" or "panna".
So, yes, the two endings indicate female gender.
I hope that helps. Any further questions?
Nihil novi (talk) 07:13, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
A related point: Polish surnames ending in "-ski" (originally an adjectival ending) take an "i" for males (e.g., "Piłsudski"), an "a" for females ("Piłsudska"). It is wrenching to a Pole to hear or read a Polish woman's surname pronounced or written, by a foreigner, with the "i" ending.
Nihil novi (talk) 07:36, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
@Nihil novi: Also -y (Konieczny, Konieczna_. But I wouldn't call it wrenching, I am reasonably sure some people (women) prefer the 'male' variant. While it is more common and natural, I think, to have the 'a' spelling for females, it is not unheard to see women which prefer the male y/ski etc (I vaguely recall my mother used both forms throughout her life). Consider google search for "Anna Kowalska" vs "Anna Kowalski". The a- variant is much more comment, 10:1, but the i variant is ussed as well (although I notice a correlation to people of Polish origin here, who may not realize/care that they are using the male variant). A quick glance at random Category:Polish women writers suggests that the -a variant is very common, but the 'owa'/'owna' is pretty rare (Anna Świderkówna, Maria Rodziewiczówna). Anyway, we are getting off topic here; for our subject, we should simply follow WP:COMMONNAME; a quick google fight gives:
"Maria Zandbang" 1972 1886 -wiki : 4
"Maria Zandbangowa" 1972 1886 -wiki: 2
Also found [33] a book biography chapter.
Frankly, the sources are few and it's almost 50/50; as long as we have a redirect I think it will be ok. If I had to make a call, I'd wait for when we think we found all sources, and then count the usages most reliable ones. If it's 50/50, go with the newest one :P --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:02, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Though there may be an occasional case of a Polish woman preferring to use the male ending with her surname, I think you will find that nearly all Googled such versions belong to women of Polish descent living in countries that do not provide for male and female surname distinctions. The woman then "inherits" the wrong variant, from her father.
Nihil novi (talk) 09:21, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
It is interesting that, while the Polish language allows a female to have "her own surname" version, unlike the English language, the Polish language does not show a sexual preoccupation manifested as a compulsion to linguistic contortions of the "she/he" or "singular they" type.
Nihil novi (talk) 10:50, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
@Piotrus and Nihil novi: Thank you so much! That really helps. My count is Zandbangowa 8 Zandbang 9 in Urban; Zandbangowa 2 Zandbang 3 in Cwaliny; Zandbangowa in Jaworowska; Zandbang in Galopuje. A fairly even split. But if you dig into historic articles at Polonia there are 0 for Maria Zandbang; 2 for Maria Zandbangowa; 1 for Marja Zandbang and 6 for Marja Zandbangowa[34] This one by her mother calls her Marja Zandbangowa(p 49) and searching at the Silesian Digital Library results in 0 hits for Maria Zandbang, 2 for Maria Zandbangowa and 0 for Marja Zandbang and 1 for Marja Zandbanowa. If one searches for simply Zandbangowa (noticing the tendancy in Jeździec i Hodowca to call her "z Wodzińskich Zandbangowa" I get 11 hits.[35] Thus, it seems to me historically she was known as Marja Zandbangowa. Only modern sources refer to her as Zandbang and/or Maria. The historian in me wants to title the article Marja Zandbangowa, but I will follow whatever advice you both think is best. And Piotrus, see if you can access the first picture here (p 15) I truly thank you both for your assistance. It definitely takes a village to write an article and I appreciate y'alls input. SusunW (talk) 15:13, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
"z Wodzińskich Zandbangowa", of course, means "[Maria] Zandbang, née Wodzińska".
For a Mr. Zandbang, it would have been "né" – though I have never seen that used, since typically the man does not change his surname in marriage – both the male and female versions of the "born" being French imports into English. (So English does make some gender distinctions, including in forenames, but generally not in surnames.)
"Marja" is just an archaic spelling of "Maria". The Polish language like its spelling, as in the case of English, has evolved over the centuries of Polish-speakers' literacy.
The Polish Wikipedia calls her "Maria Zandbang", and that is what I would call her. The Polish article also includes a nice painting of her, riding, by the famous Polish equestrian painter, Wojciech Kossak.
Thank you for raising these questions. Trying to answer them compels one to think about the matter.
It also makes nice relief from some of the more contentious, battlefield articles on Wikipedia.
Nihil novi (talk) 00:36, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
MSiT refers to Museum of Sport and Tourism. The copyright status of this picture is iffy, since it's anonymous, and if 2014 is the first time it was published than it means it is copyrighted until 2084 in EU >s>and I think 2109 in USA since that publication may 'start' the copyright clock... at the same time, I could be wrong. Commons has plenty of similar pictures. You could just upload it and see what happens. But it would be best if we could find this pic published in the contemporary newspaper in 1913. Actually, since this is from 1913 it is PD in US (commons:Template:PD-US-expired). The problem is in the Polish/EU law this time (commons:Template:PD-anon-70-EU). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:02, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
@Piotrus and Nihil novi: Again, thank you both for your help. I shall work on moving her to mainspace today. (Though I'd still really, really like to know if that record was ever broken). I'll leave it as Zandbang as you suggest (and shiver with the thought that after my death people will correct my name for me to a more conventional spelling, ugh). I've uploaded the photo. I am sure it was published. There is an Austrian drawing made from the photograph that definitely was. SusunW (talk) 14:10, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Franciszka Tusk (later known as Natalia Obrębka)

I am unsure if she is notable, but she is mentioned in passing here and there. Also known as Franciszka Tusk Scheinwechsler(owa). [36]/[37]/[38]. Interesting account is found at [39], note that the next page mentions... Maria Grzegorzewska. Anyway, I wonder if the coverage of Franciszka is significant to merit a stub? Her diary name in Polish is 'Cena jednego życia' ([40]). But I have trouble confirming it was actually published/reviewed outside of the inclusion in the 1960 book. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:27, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

I'll add her to my list of women to research and we'll see if we can find enough to verify notability. SusunW (talk) 14:33, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

List of your created articles that are in Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors

  1. Aileen Palmer  Done
  2. Anne Ector Pleasant  Done
  3. Anne Zernike  Done
  4. Beatrice Greig  Done
  5. Bertha De Vriese  Done
  6. Checha Davies  Done
  7. Concepción Felix  Done
  8. Edith Mahier  Done
  9. Edith Williams  Done
  10. Emily Muir  Done
  11. Inter-Allied Women's Conference  Done
  12. Jane E. Parker  Done
  13. Jerri Duce  Done
  14. Kansas Act of 1940  Done
  15. Kate Sperrey  Done
  16. Larisa Avdeyeva  Done
  17. Latin American and Caribbean Feminist Encuentros  Done
  18. Lisa Watson  Done
  19. Martha Bolaños de Prado  Done
  20. Mary Matz  Done
  21. Nellie A. Ramsey Leslie  Done
  22. Simka Simkhovitch  Done
  23. Take Hagiwara  Done

Those your scripts (any version of them) will find problems with. The category is too large to fully compare with your contributions, but it will cover all your creation from A to Su (~89.7% of your creations). Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:23, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Fixes can be pretty straightforward too, like this. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:24, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Headbomb I have no idea how you can whiz through these so fast. I am really, really slow at it. I truly do thank you for your help. SusunW (talk) 20:13, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Well, a few of those had false positives from minor markup errors e.g. {{harvid|'' Foobar''|1949}} → {{harvid|''Foobar''|1949}}, so it was just a small thing to look for that pattern. I don't think your script would have picked up those. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:24, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
And I am finding most of these I am fixing is because someone altered the ref without changing the anchor. SusunW (talk) 20:37, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Yup, this is stuff you're better equipped to handle since you're familiar with the articles. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:41, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Eleonora Ziemięcka

Might be interesting to expand for DYK? Not sure if the creator User:Volunteer Marek plans on doing so? The time window is half-gone. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:36, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

yes I plan on working on it, I just got distracted by nonsense. Of course I appreciate it any help. Volunteer Marek 05:46, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
I'm kind of hip deep in a series of articles right now, but if I can shake loose, I'll give it a look. SusunW (talk) 15:03, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

List of your created articles that are in Category:Harv and Sfn multiple-target errors

Per my talk page

  1. Alice Littleman  Done
  2. Annie MacDonald Langstaff  Done
  3. Barbara Gloudon  Done
  4. Delia Villegas Vorhauer  Done
  5. Eleanor Sayre  Done
  6. Elise Mercur [This one has several references to Allaback 2008, which I converted to {{sfn}}, but they could use more specific pages]  Done I think
  7. Elmina R. Lucke  Done
  8. Ena Collymore-Woodstock  Done
  9. Frankie Welch  Done
  10. Frieda S. Miller  Done
  11. Georgeann Robinson  Done
  12. Gonnie Siegel  Done
  13. Gwendolyn Spencer  Done
  14. Gwendolyn Tonge  Done
  15. Inter-Allied Women's Conference  Done
  16. Jeanne Rorex-Bridges  Done
  17. Jeri Ah-be-hill  Done
  18. Keri Ataumbi  Done
  19. Margaret Roach Wheeler  Done
  20. Margaret Wood (fashion designer)  Done
  21. Maria Ziadie-Haddad  Done
  22. Marie Lang  Done
  23. Marjorie Bear Don't Walk  Done
  24. Marjorie Schick  Done
  25. Mary V. Riley  Done
  26. May Farquharson  Done
  27. Miriam Butterworth  Done
  28. National Archives for Black Women's History  Done
  29. Native American fashion  Done
  30. Ruth Atkinson (activist)  Done
  31. Sandy Fife Wilson  Done
  32. Sarah Wool Moore  Done
  33. Shirley Miller  Done
  34. Southern Plains Indian Museum  Done
  35. Sue Wills  Done
  36. Valjean McCarty Hessing  Done
  37. Wendy Ponca  Done

I'm not sure the scripts you have installed will detect those errors, however. Their detection is relatively new and still experimental. But that's the list. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:20, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for this. I'll try to work my way through them, but as I said, it gives me a headache. Gnoming is not my thing. Being mindful of doing it correctly the first time shouldn't require cleaning up after technology, but apparently it does. I do appreciate your help. SusunW (talk) 17:37, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Well that's a bit the thing, for some of those cases, it's cleaning up after technology. For a great deal many of others, it's flagging actual issues. For example in Beatriz Nascimento, there are two distinct Smith 2016 citations which are legitimately ambiguous. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:43, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Headbomb Not really that difficult. If there is no page number, it is a cite to the web article. If there is a page number, it is a cite to the journal. That one is done. SusunW (talk) 17:57, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Headbomb and I see on my watchlist you are fixing them. Thank you so much. I honestly cannot say how much I appreciate it. SusunW (talk) 18:01, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

I took take of most of the low-hanging fruits. I'd focus on the list below if I were you, since that one has known errors. Whereas the 'errors' above aren't exactly critical and we're still trying to improve detection and figure out what to do with those. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:07, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Alright, inspected all of them, except for Elise Mercur's Allaback 2008 references, the rest are multiple refs to the same newspaper article spread over two+ cite templates. I wouldn't really worry about those personally, but feel free to be a perfectionist here. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:22, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Yep, you got it, :) My OCD tendancies will probably not allow me to leave them as is. SusunW (talk) 18:25, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
In which case, following Method 3 – .css code for error messages emitted by the short-cite templates in Category:Harv and Sfn template errors#Displaying error messages will let you more easily see the problematic refs, but it is very experimental, will clash with your other scripts (the consequences being given double messages for the same errors) and will have some false positives on other articles. So I'd recommended turning it off after you're done with the bunch above if you do choose to use it, since it would likely be confusing in the long run. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:30, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
These are actually much easier. They aren't someone changing refs without adjusting the anchor. These are what that programming change created, i.e. you have 2 different pages for 1 newspaper article. Simply a matter of searching for pt. 1, pt. 2 and putting ref=none in the 2nd one. SusunW (talk) 15:46, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
For most of them, yes. There were others with more difficult cleanup to do, but I tackled those to save you the hassle. Or put a/b in the years and moved them below. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:04, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
Yes, Mercur is going to be a nightmare. Requires an entire re-write IMO. Someone has moved refs around so they don't support the text they are cited to and inserted titles for people and other non-encylopedic stuff. I'm guessing it will take a day or two to clean up. Ufff! SusunW (talk) 16:21, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
Headbomb Okay, well it took 3 days to clean up Mercur. What a mess, but I think it is done. Can you waive your magic wand and make sure there are no a, b, c stuff missing? I have to tell you that as a writer, that is a pain in the #@$. When one is pulling up sources it does not remotely enter one's head to look and see if they are by the same source. That is only discovered after the fact. Would that one could just input the entire date of a newspaper article instead of having to figure out if you've used that paper before in the same article. News often occurs in cycles and thus, it is logical that you might have several articles over a series of dates in the same year. It is illogical to have to add letters to the dates, when date order should suffice. But, be that as it may, I have tried to do it. Thanks for your help. SusunW (talk) 22:37, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
AFAICT, everything's tip top. At least from a technical perspective. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:39, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

As for the dates thing... well imagine if you were writing for the print media (because Wikipedia articles are printed too). Even if the links somehow magically worked, you'd still have an ambiguous Smith (2016) when printed if two newspapers articles from Smith from 2016 were cited. So you'd still need the a/b thing there. Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

Thanks! I still don't like it, but it is what it is. Appreciate your superpowers. SusunW (talk) 22:46, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Okay, I am pretty sure I cleared this list Headbomb. All of them, with the exception of Mercur were just a matter of putting ref=none in the 2nd, 3rd, etc. page of the same article. If there are still any issues, please let me know. SusunW (talk) 23:52, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
There's Take Hagiwara below. There might be more, but the Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors category need to go down below 25000 before I can know for sure. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:56, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Yes, I was just clearing that so as far as I know, until you tell me, I am done. SusunW (talk) 23:59, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

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May

May · Mary · Monteverdi

Thank you for article improvements in May! - DYK our list of people for whose life I'm thankful enough to improve their articles? - I have a FAC open, one of Monteverdi's exceptional works, in memory of Brian who passed me his collected sources. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:26, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Gerda Arendt. I am thankful for you: all the little things you do to help others and all the encouragement you give. Being kind makes a difference in the world. SusunW (talk) 15:05, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
DYK ... that on Good Friday 2020, Benedikt Kristjánsson sang all roles in a chamber arrangement of Bach's St John Passion, broadcast live from the composer's burial place? - listen --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:12, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Lovely! SusunW (talk) 21:38, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
today a composer pictured who wrote a triple concerto for violin, harp and double bass, in honour of the composer who died and my brother who plays double bass. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:51, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Bessie Griffin

Hi Susun , hope you're well. Is it possible that you could recreate a decent article on this? Extremely powerful voice, almost overbearing! If you're busy don't worry though.† Encyclopædius 07:51, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey Doc. I'll give it a go. Will depend on if I can find sourcing, which is always a problem for women, but worse for black women. We'll see how it goes. SusunW (talk) 13:33, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
Okay, expanded, cited, cleaned up questionable statements. SusunW (talk) 23:15, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Great job! What are you oldest GA noms yet to be reviewed?† Encyclopædius 20:36, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Doc That GA drive cleared out all my backlog. I only have 2 out there now Olga Sapphire (April 29) and Elise Mercur (May 21). Probably will nominate 2 more in the next few days, but that depends on the photos and the rain. We are jumping from one leak to the other. Apparently we have had more rain in the last week than they got during the hurricane Isadore floods in 2002. So far we are not underwater, but we have neighbors who are. SusunW (talk) 20:43, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Olga Sapphire

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DYK for Janina Oyrzanowska-Poplewska

On 5 June 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Janina Oyrzanowska-Poplewska, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the veterinarian Janina Oyrzanowska-Poplewska, whose work led to the creation of the first Polish canine distemper vaccine, has been honored as a Righteous Among the Nations? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Janina Oyrzanowska-Poplewska. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Janina Oyrzanowska-Poplewska), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Map for Nina Demme

Hello SusunW, Please find a first draft for the map you requested on Graphics Lab (link). It can be altered in any way you wish until it is how you would like it to be, just let me know. Regards, Amitchell125 (talk) 12:25, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Tilly Bébé

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Your GA nomination of Olga Sapphire

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Your GA nomination of Nina Demme

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File:Margaret Cuthbert, 1936.jpg

Well, I did it, but with major watermarking over her eye, cheekline, and other major parts, I'm not really willing to stand by my restoration, since I do feel it should be thrown out instantly if a less-ruined image is found. I did find the back of the photo, though, and uploaded it into the file history, so if you can fix the documentation, it'll be appreciated.

I'd also appreciate you getting the Wellcome Library image of Sandor Vey up. Wellcome licenses everything CC-by-4.0 - one could argue for PD-Art in some cases, but I'd say let's go with the free license that's documented. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.3% of all FPs 19:13, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Adam Cuerden Very cool and thank you! I updated the info on Cuthbert's. Not sure how to upload something with that license, but I'll try. Perhaps it's a drop-down box? Anyway, I'll do it and hopefully you can fix anything I screw up. SusunW (talk) 19:26, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Tilly Bébé

On 14 June 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Tilly Bébé, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Tilly Bébé (pictured), a pioneer in the docile training of predators, starred with her lions in a silent film of a genre described as "exotic-erotic-escapist"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Tilly Bébé. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Tilly Bébé), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Vanamonde (Talk) 00:01, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

June

June
Vespro della Beata Vergine

Thank you for improving articles in June. I can proudly present a FA, quite a gift after a year without, and a FL is in the making, comments welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:45, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations! And thank you for you encouragement. It's been a wild month, what with tropical storms and flooding, but the constant was being able to write. SusunW (talk) 15:46, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Need some reference for Margaret Cuthbert sexual orientation

Hi,

I did see that you have created the wikidata item for Margaret Cuthbert, but we (on wikidata) do have a policy of not adding sexual orientation without proper references. I wasn't able to find anything in the article you wrote to support that, except the whole "buying a summer house together" (I guess with 1 single bed as very good friends or something), which is not enough. Could you add a reference or something that could be used for that ? Ideally one with the explicit word "lesbian", as we also try to stick to the source to avoid bisexual erasure. --Misc (talk) 11:31, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Ok, so I did read the article a bit too fast, I didn't see the part about Alice Blinn. I guess the PDF on https://scholarworks.umb.edu/amst_faculty_pubs/7/ will be enough, even if "partner" is unfortunately not as clear as I would have hoped. --Misc (talk) 11:52, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Misc, there are also lots of non-explicit references to she and Blinn's relationship in various books about Edna St Vincent Millay and Eugen. It is very, very obvious they were a couple. Less obvious and more difficult are direct references lesbianism, but not unusual, given the time frame. But, if someone doesn't write Blinn during pride month, I'll probably do it and maybe find something there. I appreciate you adding references to Wikidata. I have no idea how to do that. If the item isn't in the gadget I use already, it's beyond my skill. I am definitely not WP technical and have zero idea how to edit wikidata directly. SusunW (talk) 14:05, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
Oh, also Misc, I do not know how to link the photograph to the wikidata item. I know it's possible, just not how. SusunW (talk) 14:42, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't see your answer ealier. I did add the photo from commons to wikidata: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q96242513&diff=1214666031&oldid=1209688506 --Misc (talk) 13:38, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
Thank you Misc and you will see I was able to add a bit more about her relationship to Blinn when I wrote her partner's bio. Appreciate you setting up the wikidata entry for Blinn, as it made it much simpler to connect them. SusunW (talk) 14:03, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

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Template:Did you know nominations/Ljuba Prenner

Hi, I just noticed that you created this article and hurried to nominate it at DYK. I'm happy to add more alts if you have other ideas. Also, should the first hook say "she" or "he"? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 23:04, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Yoninah I'd try to keep the pronoun use to he. It's been a lengthy conversation on what language to use and be respectful to the subject. I would refer you to the note on the talk page about the various discussions. Thanks for nominating it. A hook using his quote, "I am Dr. Ljuba Prenner, neither man nor woman" might work as an alt. We're still working on other photos, but hopefully, the text is mostly set now. SusunW (talk) 23:18, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
I like that alt better. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 10:07, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
Yay, that's approved! Listen, instead of me having to search through the WP:Women in Red metrics to find something you've written, perhaps you could let me know when you have a new article ready, and I'll nominate it? I have plenty of QPQs in stock. Best, Yoninah (talk) 22:31, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
Yoninah I'll be glad to do that. Thank you for offering. SusunW (talk) 22:35, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
Looking forward. Yoninah (talk) 22:36, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Progress report

Finished up a couple old projects first, but it's coming along nicely Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.3% of all FPs 15:03, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

It looks so much better! Your work is amazing. SusunW (talk) 15:08, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you in July

July
pale globe-thistle above the Rhine

Thank you for improving articles in July! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:19, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Gerda Arendt! I am slow this month, many irons in the fire, but I am very happy that I was able to write at least 1 biography that has been on my plate for over a year. Took so much time to dig out the sources, but with perseverance, comes reward. I appreciate your encouragement. SusunW (talk) 14:05, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
What you call slow would be others' fast ;) - I love your perseverance! LouisAlain gave Wikipedia a translation yesterday, a German pianist, married to a Japanese soprano, who performed together. It was sent to draft space for lack of sources. Sigh, perseverance required there, too. He died in 1931, tough to find that period covered. Meiszner/Meißner, in case of interest (on my user page). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:10, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

File:Sándor_Vay_-_Restoration.png

Coming along, methinks. I'm kind of doing this in between finishing up a bunch of stuff that's been in my half-done list too long that I want rid of, so it's slow, but...

Think you'll probably finally see that International Women's Conference image on the back of this, though. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.3% of all FPs 16:17, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Adam Cuerden it is amazing. So obvious looking at the progress on the photograph how much better it looks. I'll be so happy to finally see the Inter-Allied Women's photo restored, but totally get what a huge job it will be. Thank you so much for your work. SusunW (talk) 16:43, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Ljuba Prenner

On 23 July 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ljuba Prenner, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in the 1950s, Slovene transgender lawyer and writer Ljuba Prenner would introduce himself: "I am Dr. Ljuba Prenner, neither man nor woman"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ljuba Prenner. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ljuba Prenner), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:01, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

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