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February 14[edit]

Resolved
 – being discussed as requested.--ukexpat (talk) 15:43, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Could someone please help this user at my talk? Many thanks, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:12, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

edit an article[edit]

want to edit an article (Covario), minor edit, tried but don't know how, the edit page is confusing. want to add brief statement and ref to support is already in article. can you help me? This is the addition: Covario won the OMMA search agency of the year award in 2011 [9][10][11] and again in 2012 <ref>Sullivan, Laurie. “Agency of the Year: Bronze, Search – Covario”. mediapost.com.</ref>

happyeditor 02:29, 14 February 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by C. A. Bruemmer (talkcontribs)

 Done--Canoe1967 (talk) 02:37, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Header[edit]

I want to be able to use this site to define and spell words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Easylivinted (talkcontribs) 02:43, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Main_Page ?--Canoe1967 (talk) 02:49, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata[edit]

Did I miss an announcement? I noticed that someone had removed WP:interwiki links from an article, and after a bit of research I found that Wikidata had gone live and that language links are now to be provided through that route. I am not sure whether the Wikidata database has been fully populated with data consistent with the current content of en-w, nor am I sure how any further changes to iw links on en-w would find their way into Wikidata before iw links are removed from en-w, nor whether checks are being done on the consistency of the data before the en-w iw links are removed. I assume that I'm not the only en-w editor who is not fully informed, so I would be grateful if anyone involved with the Wikidata project could give us a clue. - David Biddulph (talk) 03:05, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It would be best to check the item on Wikidata to make sure all the links are on Wikidata before removing. We have a lot of items there, but not all of them. --Rschen7754 03:09, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
See Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)#Wikidata deployment phase 1, Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2013-02-04/Technology report and Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2013-02-11/Technology report.--ukexpat (talk) 03:10, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Page for IDFC Project Equity[edit]

Hi ,

I would like to communicate & request that the wiki page for IDFC Project Equity (link : IDFC Project Equity) should be removed , since the company has merged into IDFC Alternatives and is now called Infrastructure , which is an asset class of IDFC Alternatives .

Hence the page is not relevant .

You can check the same on www.idfc.com

Regards

Parminder — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.130.40.2 (talk) 05:57, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Notability is not temporary - We have millions of articles about subjects that no longer exist, so the merger of the company is by itself not a sufficient reason to merge, move or delete the article. Roger (talk) 07:09, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

want to get study material[edit]

i want to get some study material on english grammer but i dont get this from wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.79.36.71 (talk) 06:38, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You need to be more specific. What grammar are you looking for? We do have pages on specific grammar topics here, but if that doesn't help, I'd suggest you try dedicated websites like englishpage.com, onestopenglish.com etc. Valenciano (talk) 06:49, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Wikiversity is the Wikimedia project that handles educational material - it has free learning material and courses on a wide variety of subjects. Roger (talk) 07:20, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

writing biography of a dead person[edit]

I want write a biography of a dead person. Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandeepawasthi13 (talkcontribs) 06:51, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Sandeepawasthi13 - your first stop should be Wikipedia:Your first article.Moxy (talk) 08:53, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Dead person.--Canoe1967 (talk) 09:00, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
...Not a person Jenova20 (email) 11:35, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
WP:BDP - Purplewowies (talk) 20:58, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Category generated by template[edit]

Resolved

When I preview a page with User:Toshio Yamaguchi/Template:File page NFCC concerns tag I can see that the page is placed in Category:Non-free files lacking a rationale as of February 2013, which is as intended. However, the template also should place the file in a category for all non-free files which lack a rationale (I specified the ambox parameter | all = Non-free files lacking a rationale). This doesn't work however. Why and how can I fix it? -- Toshio Yamaguchi 09:20, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See Template:Ambox for the documentation of the ambox template, where the all parameter is included in the common parameters, if it helps. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 11:46, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See also this revision of my sandbox, where the monthly category is present, but not the category for all files. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 15:36, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Frustration[edit]

I have been trying without success to edit material on the page on me Quintin Jardine. I am doing to because that page has been copied by Facebook and used to create a community page on me without my knowledge or permission, but also because some material on the Wikipedia entry constitutes a breach of privacy to me. Furthermore I note that the cited references on my Wikipedia page include my own website. I must point out that all material on that site is the copyright of Portador Ltd, my company and may not be used without its permission. I'm a big fan of Wikipedia, and a financial supporter, but my loyalty will be at an end if my most recent edit is not reinstated and the image attached removed.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qjardine (talkcontribs) 10:57, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Quintin. I've taken a close look at the page in question, but haven't made any alterations to it. May I ask which parts you object to? As far as I can see (having made comparisons with several pages on your website) there is no reproduction of copyrighted text, and indeed, the website itself appears to verify most if not all of the biographical information. If you could give precise details of which parts of the article you object to, and why (either here or on my talkpage), I can see about having them removed, but at first glance, I don't immediately see anything that would cause a breach of privacy or a copyright violation. The image in the article is one that you yourself released under the GNU Free Document Licence, and therefore is free for anyone, including Wikipedia, to amend or use as they see fit. Yunshui  11:14, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Shouldn't the page be either Matthew Quintin Jardine or Matthew Jardine? Or is Quintin Jardine the name you authors your books under? Thanks Jenova20 (email) 11:33, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, Quintin Jardine is correct, per WP:COMMONNAME. Yunshui  11:35, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I stand corrected. Bravo Jenova20 (email) 11:36, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • His objections are shown in this edit. Per WP:BLP, "Contentious material about living persons (or recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced – whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable – should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion." Qjardine removed unsourced information. The page then was subject to possible vandalism.[1] I've removed what Qjardine removed and posted a request at WP:BLPN for further trimming of the page/to watch the page. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 12:07, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

hellp i cant find hindu childhood in the surch[edit]

help — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.229.43.152 (talk) 15:46, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please clarify, your question is unclear.--ukexpat (talk) 18:40, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There are some Hindu children shown in the images at the article, "Hindu". I hope that helps. -Thibbs (talk) 15:15, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How to add a picture[edit]

How do you add a picture to a Wikipedia page: There is a page: First Presbyterian Church (Sallisaw, Oklahoma). I wanted to add some historical information and a picture. I am an Elder and member of the church. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferduchi66 (talkcontribs) 16:01, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you are in a position to release an image under a compatible license to Wikipedia/Wikimedia then you just need an WP:autoconfirmed account before you can upload it. If the image is already here then copy and paste this: [[File:Example|200px|thumb|right|Caption goes here]] and fill in the file name where you see "example" and also a caption. Good luck! Jenova20 (email) 17:19, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Standard image advice follows:
  • If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy.
  • If you want to add an image that has already been uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, add [[File:File name.jpg|thumb|Caption text]] to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information. I hope this helps.--ukexpat (talk) 18:38, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Priestman Brothers Hull yorkshire[edit]

I worked for Priestman Brothers Ltd. Hull for 30 years and hold the massive archive, providing wholly accurate cotent, from the founder's diaries, and many more sources. The Wikipedia article is indeed welcome but has many inaccuracies. I am unfamialar with the editing process but would gladly given you and amount of information you require, if someone can let me know how! Bill Bromwich, Hull, E.Yorkshire — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.228.95 (talk) 16:07, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the offer. What other kinds of material are in your archive? If it is news clippings etc that constitute reliable sources then they would be very useful. The founder's diaries not so much because they are primary sources. We need a little more detail. Thanks.--ukexpat (talk) 18:37, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your offer. Wikipedia may only used reference material that has previously been published. However one of the Wikimedia Foundation's related projects, Wikisource - The free library would most probably be interested. Roger (talk) 09:31, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Raja Tahir Masood[edit]

i have submitted a draft on the above person. could you please let me know if it meets your requirements? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevenrich3 (talkcontribs) 17:09, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The draft has not yet been submitted for review. Please click the "click here" link in the line of the grey box that reads:
If this submission is ready to be reviewed, click here and press Save page.--ukexpat (talk) 18:35, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Denys Val Baker - name changed by deed poll[edit]

Hi. The personal info box at this entry shows "Born - Denys Val BAKER" He was in fact born Denys Baker, and later changed his name to Denys VAL BAKER by deed poll. I don't know how to correctly display this info in the personal data box. Thanks. -- ALGRIF talk 17:59, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Fixed in this edit. The article needs more sources and the tone is a little "fluffy", so please feel free to work on it.--ukexpat (talk) 18:32, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Change image[edit]

Hello,

We would like to update the logo on Columbia College (Missouri) to our new logo. How do I go about doing this?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Armybrat485 (talkcontribs) 18:28, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See the answer to "how to add a picture" a few questions above. RudolfRed (talk) 19:40, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

fixing piped link of redirect?[edit]

Let's say that Aeiou is an article and Bfjpv is a redirect to Aeiou. If I find an article that has [[Aeiou|Bfjpv]] in it, should that be edited to simply [[Bfjpv]]. Both links will end up at the article Aeiou and the second is shorter.Naraht (talk) 19:01, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's often better to link to the redirect, except in navigation boxes. See WP:NOPIPE and WP:R#NOTBROKEN. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:11, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Like most things, the answer is "sometimes". In general, if one is just a synonym/capitalization/re-punctuation of the other, I edit the link as long as I'm doing something else to the article. If Bfjpv is a sub-subject within the Aeiou article, and it might some day have its own article, I leave the link as it is. An example might be if Bfjpv is the founder of company Aeiou, but has also recently been elected to public office, making him notable aside from his company. BTW, the same applies to redlinks. In the example just given, if Bfjpv doesn't exist at all, it should be left alone, as it's likely to be created in the future. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 01:41, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Category[edit]

Ludwig Stumpfegger gave Magda Goebbels the cyanide to kill her children. Is it OK if I add category German murderers of children to his article? Kotjap (talk) 19:06, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds inappropriate if he wasn't in charge and didn't give it directly to the children. And his article only says "some sources report that he helped Magda Goebbels kill her children". PrimeHunter (talk) 19:19, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ross Montgomery[edit]

Ross Montgomery (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hi Ross Montgomery here you say on my page that I have 2 daughters which is correct but I also have a 20 year old son please update many thanks

Ross Montgomery — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.13.181.224 (talk) 19:46, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like you fixed it yourself.--ukexpat (talk) 21:31, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tagging information as "cite needed" instead of providing a citation[edit]

In a discussion with a relatively new account at RSN (Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Kition) the question of when to use a "citation needed" tag has come up. The other user has several times added a cite needed tag to their own edits when editing an article instead of an actual citation. See [2]. I have asked them to stop and find adequate citations before adding information and explained that I didn't think the purpose of such a tag was to ask someone else to cite your additions for you. They think I am misinterpreting the purpose of the tag. I tried looking through some of the archives of the talkpages for wp:cite and wp:citation needed and the archives of this page, but nothing specifically popped out at me, although this has to have come up before. Any insight would be appreciated, thanks. Heiro 21:11, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think your approach is the correct one. The onus is on the person adding material to ensure that it is adequately referenced - if they don't have references for it, it shouldn't be added (especially if it's a BLP, though that's not the case here). I always understood that the {{cn}} etc tags were to alert readers to possibly unreliable content and to alert those who may be so inclined, to look for references, not as a cop-out for the user adding the possible disputed material.--ukexpat (talk) 21:25, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, in my 4 or 5 years, that has always been my understanding as well, but couldn't find it actually stated anywhere (although my search was far from exhaustive). Heiro 21:27, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:BURDEN "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material". There's also guidance at Template:Citation needed, but it doesn't specifically address your question. RudolfRed (talk) 21:33, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

PIZZA NOVA - Incorrect Information[edit]

The information featured on the Wikipedia profile for Pizza Nova is incorrect. We have over 127 locations in Ontario, Canada. We have ZERO locations in the United Stated and ZERO locations in Cuba.

Posted by the Vice President of Pizza Nova Sangelone (talk) 21:54, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Fixed - by another.Moxy (talk) 00:37, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

how do I use my main user page?[edit]

how do I use my main user page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Will Ogilvie (talkcontribs) 21:58, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's a tool for collegiality, to tell us who Will Ogilvie is: his skills, his strengths, his interests, his enthusiasms, his dislikes, his prejudices and antipathies, his heartfelt belief system which inevitably informs his content. You are welcome to use any of our hundreds of userboxes, for example, which proclaim the user's stance on various matters, from the serial comma to the American Civil War to the color orange. All of this gives your fellow editors an idea of who this person Will (whom we may never meet in meatspace) really is. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:07, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
See Wikipedia:User pages,Moxy (talk) 00:06, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Artist rendering of William Tennent[edit]

From Wendy Wirsch President of the William Tennent House Association in regards to the painting of what is believed to be William Tennent and is on Wikipedia site which is the above banner. Wendy is the Historian for the Neshaminy Warwick Church.

Pete

Are you referring to the painting of a man with white hair and a ruffle on his shirt? If so, that is not William Tennent. The reason I know this is because I know the woman who owns the painting. She is Anne Tennent Cecil. She lives in Spartanburg, SC. Anne had the painting examined by art experts. The portrait is that of a man who married into the Tennent family. We also know that the gentleman isn’t William Tennent because of the clothes he is wearing. Men in the 1730’s and ‘40’s didn’t wear shirts with ruffles on them. That image needs to be removed.
Blessings, Wendy

There is a silhouette of William Tennent that we use along with the Latin phrase "He builded better than he knew" (there is NO Latin for built)

Hope this helps and rectifies this mistake. Peter W. Brunner — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.114.236.80 (talk) 22:48, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think the above contains postings by two different people - effectively a conversation - and I have added formatting to make this clearer. Apologies if I've misunderstood. --ColinFine (talk) 23:12, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]