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September 16

mistake in your information

Dear Sir, I was advised by Ms. Cindy Ashley- Nelson to direct my email to you all In order to inform you a mistake in your publication and information .... I am Mr. Edson Tavares, Brazilian football coach and I use to work in Chongqing Lifan FC - China for 3 seasons 2001-2002-2003 ( the club will confirm that ), and in your information in Chongqing Lifan club is appear that Mr. Stefano Impagliazzo work as a coach .... is completely wrong Mr. Stefano was my physical coach in 2002 season for ONLY 1 month of time ... He never worked as head coach in his own life, special in china ... This information cause me a lot of problems special because people in football compare with my CV. I hope you can repair this mistake and correct as soon it is possible. Thanks in advance Edson Tavares — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.142.135.199 (talk) 01:09, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

I have removed this information since you have disputed and the entry was not cited through a reliable source.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:14, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Life

Mr and Mrs. Imus I watched your show and it is great. I have watched Imus n the morning. The thing that brothers me is that you don't believe in JESUS CHRIST. There is a life after this live. Either you will be in Heaven or Hell. Read John 3:16. Jesus died on a cross for you. His blood will wash a way your sins. Jesus LOVES YOU. Terry L Lofton — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.225.4.181 (talk) 03:00, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:07, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

I have removed the email address from your message to protect your privacy. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:00, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

How do I redirect a subject on a Wikipedia article

How do I redirect a subject on a Wikipedia article? I don't how to do that. Venustar84 (talk) 04:32, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Simply put #REDIRECT [[Target page name here]] on the page you wish to create a redirect out of. See Help:Redirect for more info. Scarce2 (talk) 04:41, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Can someone please redirect the Simpsons character Armin_Tamzarian to the Principal_Skinner article? Thanks! Venustar84 (talk) 04:48, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Two things. 1) I'm not sure why you can't do it yourself. And 2) The redirect has been in place for nearly 2 years. You might want to bring it up for discussion on the talk page of either the episode or Principal Skinner before redirecting it. Dismas|^(talk) 06:35, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Re: Disclaimer

Hi all,

There is a disclaimer on my Wiki page which I'm requesting to have removed it says((This article may rely excessively on sources too closely associated with the subject, preventing the article from being verifiable andneutral. Please help improve it by replacing them with more appropriate citations to reliable, independent, third-party sources. (June 2013) ) This is because as you can see my page was last reviewed in June when there were no links/citations to verify facts. Several links/citations have since been provided to support the facts. Can this disclaimer be removed please?

Kind regards,

Moraa Gitaa. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.242.202.236 (talk) 05:47, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi, firstly, that's not a disclaimer, that's a notice to visitors and other editors that the article needs to be cleaned up. Secondly, it's not your article, although it may be an article ABOUT you. :) Thirdly, I'm looking at the article now, and while that specific cleanup template could be updated, there are other issues that overlap with the "closely related to the subject" part of the template. There is a lot of jargon and phrases that could only be properly understood by people "closely related to the subject". What does the ill-defined "shortlisted" mean? What do concepts like "signatory to the PEN charter" mean? What does "children/women inclusion agenda" mean? While some of these things I could suss out if I had half a brain (barely) as well as time to research the parlance (very little), that effort shouldn't be required of the casual reader. The article needs to be written in such a way as to convey your notability, and explain your contributions/efforts without requiring a prerequisite course in your industry's nomenclature. :) Oh, and if this is your first time at the Help Desk, I should mention that you are STRONGLY discouraged from "fixing" the article yourself because that would present a significant conflict of interest, as autobiographies are almost never written entirely subjectively, no matter how objective you think you might be. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 06:03, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Just adding a link for convenience sake: Moraa Gitaa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Dismas|^(talk) 06:37, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Urgent

Wikipedia had a lot of information on my family name, Ansari, especially, Origin. It is all gone. Kindly put it back as soon as possible.

Thank you,

Jawad — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ansarijawad (talk • contribs) 06:07, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry: Wikipedia has no deadline. Ansari is a disambiguation page. These pages contain links to help users find their way around the encyclopaedia. They are not a place to write articles, or to add material that doesn't link to an existing article. That's why the misplaced information was deleted. - Karenjc 07:37, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

It's also possible you are referring to the article Ansari (nisbat). Some information was removed in this edit, because it lacked a source. Our policy on verifiability explains this. -Karenjc 07:54, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

I made that edit while looking into the OP's question. So they are not referring to that edit, unless they are time travelers. :) Dismas|^(talk) 08:03, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Facepalm. So you did. - Karenjc 20:20, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Deleted Pages

In the last 12 months a couple of pages that were of real interest have been deleted. Having read the discussion log, many of the comments had no content. Can these pages : Polarity Therapy and Dr Randolph Stone be reinstated? Regards Graham — Preceding unsigned comment added by Polarityg (talk • contribs) 08:37, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

The situations under which articles might be considered for deletion review are defined at Wikipedia:Deletion review, and that would be the place to raise requests if the relevant criteria are satisfied. The AFD discussions were at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Polarity therapy and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Randolph Stone. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:19, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Problem in Uploading new content on Wiki

Resolved

 – Blocked. It's always easier when block-evaders add a "2" to the end of their new username... Bencherlite^Talk 09:37, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi,

I have been trying to upload content on Stayfree - Wikipedia page using below mentioned creditionals, but every time after saving respective page that changes are not reflecting.

URL: Stayfree Username: Lbiindia2

Steps I am following : - 1. Stayfree page which we need to edit. - Stayfree 2. Clicking on Edit Source 3. Write/Paste the new content.

Can you please guide me through the process if I am following the wrong one.

Thanks in advance. -- Regards, Archi Kathrani — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lbiindia2 (talk • contribs) 09:18, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

There are at least two problems. The material that you have tried to paste is not formatted correctly; you seem to have misunderstood how references are formatted, so you would need to read WP:Referencing for beginners. But more importantly, what you were posting seems to be the same as what led to a similarly named account being indefinitely blocked as being used for purely promotional and advertising purposes, see User talk:Lbiindia. To use an alternative account to get round the block is sockpuppetry, and is not permitted. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:29, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Requesting That A Page Be Made

The request an article thing was way to confusing. You need to simplify that shit pronto. But anyways the band Dayshell needs a wikipedia page. So yeah you should get the ball rolling on that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.177.107.38 (talk • contribs) 11:10, 16 September 2013‎ (UTC)

I think the Articles for Creation process is fairly simple. Have you tried the article wizard? It's quite straight forward.

However, glancing at the band Dayshell makes me wonder if they pass our notability guidelines; it could be that we don't have an article because they're not notable enough. Either way, if you create the article using the article wizard, someone will access whether or not they're a notable enough band. — Richard BB 11:15, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

When I see ""request an article thing" I think Wikipedia:Requested articles, not Wikipedia:AFC. I agree the second is quite good. I don't have an opinion on the process aspect of the former, because I think it is likely to be a waste of time. My guess is that a general request will fall into a black hole. A request posted at a relevant Wikiproject might have better luck.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 12:47, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

uploaded photos in articles

Hello, I've been 'adopting" and editing articles for a few years now. I've also uploaded photos on a couple. Recently, I've been "targeted" by an editor named Dman41689 who keeps tagging my photos for lack of permission (specifically Dave Winfield, Victor Willis and Village People) and deleting them. I copy the 'permission' template, fill it out completely, continually ask him what else I need to do, but he never responds and keeps deleting my photos. I don't want to get into an edit war, but I would like an explanation on why -- or how to provide the extra "permission" that seems to be required only of me. Please, please advise. Thank you. Hotcop2 (talk) 12:58, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

If File:DaveWinfieldbyMarioCasciano.jpg is an example, it tells you there what you need to do. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:24, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Note also that you have had numerous messages on your user talk page at Commons, as that was where you had uploaded the photos, so it is not really a question for the English Wikipedia. You say permission required only of you, but this is not the case; see Commons:Permission. I notice also that on the file referred to above you said "I release this image for use on Wikipedia". You need to check with the experts at Commons, but I believe that such a restriction is unacceptable; my belief is that the licencing conditions require you to release the image to be reused anywhere. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:46, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Illegal link?

Resolved

There's a link on Insidious 2 to watch the film for free!

Surely not right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.8.96.145 (talk) 13:41, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Removed/reverted.Naraht (talk) 13:50, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Use of slash character in titles

Dear editors: I couldn't find a mention of the slash (/) character in the essay about page naming. Does Wikipedia distinguish somehow between the way it stores page names containing a slash (ie., "Apple/Pear pie"), and slashes that indicate a subpage (ie., "Drafts/First draft", "Drafts/Second draft"), or is this an artificial distinction? —Anne Delong (talk) 14:29, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Subpages. Mainspace articles can contain slashes in the title. In other namespaces it gives a subpage. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:37, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. I should have thought of looking there. There are so many places to look, and so little brainpower to think of them all. —Anne Delong (talk) 20:28, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Steps for removing warning at top of article?

I'm looking to get a warning removed from the top of my page. The warning read: This article appears to be written like an advertisement. Please help improve it by rewriting promotional content from a neutral point of view and removing any inappropriate external links. (July 2012). Since it was posted on July 2012 we've taken many steps to rewrite the content to be as accurate/non-promotional as possible, but the warning remains. Does anyone know of steps that can be taken to make sure the page is reviewed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MeghanWelch (talk • contribs) 15:26, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Hard to help unless you tell us which article you are referring to...--ukexpat (talk) 15:53, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello Meghan. You may or may not have improved the page sufficiently that that notice can be removed: we don't know until you tell us which page. But I'm afraid that when you say "we've taken many steps" this raises flags for me. Who are "we"? And, more importantly, what is the relationship of "we" to the subject of the article (which is not your page, by the way). I may just be being a suspicious so-and-so, but if you have any connection with the subject, please make sure you are familiar with the recommendations on conflict of interest. --ColinFine (talk) 17:04, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Translating

there's a article from wikipedia that I would like to translate in spanish and I don't know how

69.121.143.142 (talk) 17:01, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello. Does Wikipedia:Translate us help? --ColinFine (talk) 17:06, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Do I have to add a mistaken sentence (in my opinion) in order to balance my other sentence?

There is a disagreement in the talk page between myself and other editor. I said that side A started a war. he opposed my opinion. I proposed that each of us will concise his opinion to 1 sentence only, and add both to the article. (provided that both are well supported).

He does not agree. He ask me to write both opinions, otherwise he claims that my contribution is wp:npov. However, I do not agree to the other opinion and do not have a support for it.

Is he right when he refuse to write his view and ask me to add both opinions? Ykantor (talk) 17:04, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

If different reliable sources disagree then you should include both positions, appropriately cited, while being aware of WP:UNDUE. RJFJR (talk) 17:07, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

There is no place in Wikipedia for your opinion or the other person's opinion. There is a place for a statement like "Joe Bloggs, in his book Whodunnit, said that ..." (with a reference to the book, of course). If there is dispute in the published reliable sources, then the article should record this (eg "Sue Smith, writing in the New York Times said that .... "). It is not your responsibility to make a statement with which you do not agree, but it is your joint responsibility (you and the other person) to make sure that all significant positions taken in reliable published sources are mentioned. --ColinFine (talk) 17:14, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you RJFJR and ColinFine. "It is not your responsibility to make a statement with which you do not agree, but it is your joint responsibility...". That was my initial view. I have opened a wp:drn in order to advance the issue. Ykantor (talk) 08:36, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

adjust/reset hover footnotes in articles?

i use footnotes a lot while browsing wikipedia. i recently noticed that there is a setting that allows you to change how long you have to hover over the footnote until it pops up. i started testing out different values. well i think i misclicked or something because now it does not work for me. i believe what happened was that i entered a rather large number (hundreds of seconds instead of milliseconds). is there a link to get to the setting of the footnote hover? i really enjoyed that feature and would like to get it back somehow. i have tried to find a link to where i could reset that value back to its initial 200 milliseconds (i think that was its original value), but i have not had any luck with it.

any help would be much appreciated. thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.115.202 (talk) 17:21, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

I suspect that rather than breaking it in some way, it was turned off. Turning it off is one of the options provided and after testing I found that if instead you provide a very high value, say 5,000 milliseconds, that acts to shut it off as if you'd chosen the disable option. To turn it back on, go to an article, scroll to the very bottom and see if there is a link on the right hand side of the page (next to "mobile view") for "Enable Reference Tooltips". Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:56, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Can my watchlist be sorted by date?

Dear editors: Because I work with a lot of new users at Afc who don't always know how to effectively contact people, I have my watchlist set to add every page I edit. However, most of these are not needed after a few weeks. Unfortunately, I often can't remember which articles and talk pages are the recent ones. Is there any way to sort my watchlist by date instead of alphabetically so that I can delete the older items? I have a few pages, such as projects that I am involved in and articles that I created, that I want to keep, but most of the older ones aren't needed. —Anne Delong (talk) 17:25, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

AFAIK no. I have asked in the past if we could have 2 watchlists, in my case because I wanted e-mail notification of changes to a few pages, but not all 500+ on my list, but was told this wasn't an option. Clearly, this cannot be difficult for the Techies to add, so if this solution would solve your problem, it would be another argument for 2 watchlists on the same account. Arjayay (talk) 18:22, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Well, I just thought I'd ask. —Anne Delong (talk) 02:22, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Can I propose to modify a command (insert a cropped image) ?

I have recently inserted a cropped image to an article, using the "Annotated image".

Here is the command template:

• {{Annotated image | float=right| caption=Air dropping supplies to besieged [[Yehiam]], 1948| image=Air dropping supplies to Yehiam, 1948.jpg| image-width=320 | width=280| height=140| image-top=-22 |image-left=-33| annotations=}}

• It is inconvenient to guess the amount of cropping by pixels (image-top=-22 |image-left=-33).

1. Will it be possible to use percentage rather then amount of pixels? e.g. crop 9% from the top rather then "-22" pixels?
2. Will it be possible to merge the "image" command with the "Annotated image"? Ykantor (talk) 17:28, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

@Ykantor: - You are referring to a template, specifically {{Annotated image}}. In Wikipedia, there is no such thing as a "command".

Re #1, the description/documentation at Template:Annotated image makes it clear that percentages aren't allowed, only pixel counts. Wikipedia generally doesn't use annotated images - there are less than a 1000 of them, at least via that template. So while it may be inconvenient not to have percentages as an option, it doesn't seem worthwhile - in my opinion - to ask someone to revise that template, if that's even possible (I doublt it). But if you want to do ask, feel free: the place to do so is at Template talk:Annotated image.

Re #2, I have no idea what the "image" command is. Template:Image exists, but it's not allowed in articles. The old format for adding an image was a wikilink, like this: [[Image:Whatever]], but it makes no sense to try to merge that format with a template. Further explanation of what you're trying to do would be appreciated. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 03:51, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

I apologize for the in-clarity. It is a pity to have an image which a lot of it is the sky. It might be useful to have a convenient method of cropping the image.

Re #1, perhaps editors avoid Template:Annotated image since its' usage is not convenient.

Re #2, is it possible to add Template:Annotated image capabilities to WP:IMGSYN ? e.g. cropping the image? thanks. Ykantor (talk) 04:17, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

@Ykantor: - Re #1, the only existing alternative I know of is to go to Commons, and create a new, cropped image there. That's way more complicated - see Commons:User:Cropbot. Re #2, the Help desk isn't the place to ask what is possible, technically. The right place to ask is at Wikipedia talk:Images (that's the talk page for WP:IMGSYN), or at WP:VPT (where technical folks hang out). If you do ask, please don't ask at both places at the same time. The correct process is to ask at one place. After a couple of days, if you get no answer, or aren't satisfied, you can try the other place, but link to where you asked initially. (People really get irritated otherwise, reading the same question at multiple places.) -- John Broughton (♫♫) 04:07, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

I have already asked at Template talk:Annotated_image. After a couple of days, if I get no answer, I will ask at WP:VPT, as you explained. Thank you. Ykantor (talk) 05:41, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Edits

Hi - If I have recently made edits and additions to a Wikipedia page long does it take for them to appear on the page? Thank you in advance- — Preceding unsigned comment added by RiffMom (talk • contribs) 18:46, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

In almost all cases, changes are immediate. Very few pages have what is referred to as pending changes, a system that delays contributions to allow for moderation. However, I note that the edits you made to Candye Kane were reverted, so they are no longer visible to readers. Ask on the talk page there if you don't understand why they were reverted.  drewmunn  talk  18:52, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Your edits to the article were reverted automatically by software because you used a blogspot site as a source. It's apparent that you have also removed all references to Candye Kane's career in pornography as well. Do you have reason to believe that material is untrue?—Kww(talk) 18:54, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The edits are still there in the page history. You can see that there were a number of problems with your version (so in future you should check with page preview before saving), and further reasons for the reversion can be seen in the history as blogs are not regarded as reliable sources. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:02, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

"Background information" area

I am creating a bio page for a living person. How do I add one of those "background information" areas like I've seen on other bio pages? Ruthyuke (talk) 22:12, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Do you mean an infobox, or perhaps one of the specific infoboxes such as those in Category:People infobox templates? - David Biddulph (talk) 22:38, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

But if you are talking about Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Ann Firestone Ungar, then I recommend that you put your effort into the important work, viz providing solid reliable references, before bothering with infoboxes. If you try to publish the article without references it will get deleted. Furthermore, according to our policy on biographies of living persons, anybody may remove any unreferenced material from it at any time, even if it has not yet been reviewed and published. --22:49, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Declined article in sandbox

I was working on an article in my sandbox, and when it was finished, I submitted it. It was later declined and moved to another page. Now my sandbox goes to that other page, and it's being threatened to be deleted if it's not revised soon, but I can't solve the original problem with the article, so what would I revise, and that's not really a solution anyway? The article is Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Tessellation conglomerate if you want to see it. What I'm wondering is how do I reestablish my sandbox page and put my article somewhere for safe-keeping (I already copied the page onto a Microsoft Word document, is that all I can do)? Frivolous Consultant (talk) 22:34, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

I've moved it back to User:Frivolous Consultant/sandbox for you. Of course, unless the subject receives extensive coverage in published reliable sources it will not be suitable as a Wikipedia article. WP is not the place for neologisms or original research. - David Biddulph (talk) 22:46, 16 September 2013 (UTC)