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May 27

"Barbara D'Urso", not "Barbara d'Urso"

Could someone correct the title of this page? The correct title already exists and, therefore, I would not know how to correct the current title. It's spelled "D'Urso", not "d'Urso". JackkBrown (talk) 00:37, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: If you're having issues moving a page for technical issues, bring it up at Wikipedia:Technical move requests, not here. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:41, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown you could propose a move on that article's talk page, and from there people can chime in and saywhether or not it should be moved (There will be a tag at the top of the page once a move is suggested, if you did not know already). That doesn't seem like a controversial rename, but it's still better to discuss it in my opinion. Losipov (talk) 00:48, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

@Losipov: look here, please (uppercase): https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_D%27Urso. JackkBrown (talk) 00:51, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

JackkBrown, the references in the article that use the capital "D" are reliable sources. The Italian Wikipedia article is not a reliable source. See WP:CIRCULAR. Cullen328 (talk) 01:50, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Can you help me with this page?

Hello, can you leave the page as it was before? is that someone edited it and can you please put the official information, Thank you.

https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telet%C3%B3n_1978_(Chile) GasXD (talk) 01:20, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

@GasXD: You are linking to the Spanish Wikipedia, which we have no say over here at the English Wikipedia. You'd need to discuss your issue over there at es:Wikipedia:Café/Archivo/Ayuda/Actual. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:21, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Berney baronets

Ref number 7 is not quite right. - please fix if you can. Thanks58.179.137.31 (talk) 02:58, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

 Done, there was extra markup, causing the error message. Cmr08 (talk) 03:35, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Chronophilia

Reference help requested. I received a notification about a missing periodical citation error in formatting. I'm not sure exactly how to correct it, but I know an official editor/admin corrected such an error for me before, and would appreciate one doing so here. Here is the full information for the source cited, link and publication details: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/293334555_Hebephilic_Sexual_Offending "January 2016 DOI:10.1007/978-1-4939-2416-5_3 In book: Sexual offenders: Predisposing antecedents, assessments, and management (pp.29-44)Publisher: SpringerEditors: Amy Phenix, Harry Hoberman Authors: Skye Stephens Saint Mary's University Michael C Seto University of Ottawa"

Thanks, 2601:14D:4101:E4E0:F1F7:473F:5EBF:CD85 (talk) 03:36, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

You need to fill in the parameters like doi=123 which another editor has done so for you. Lightoil (talk) 04:49, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Not quite correct. The cited source is a chapter in a book, not a journal article (and the value assigned to |doi= always begins 10.. {{Cite journal}} requires |journal=; when it doesn't have that, the template emits an (alas, hidden) error message. The OP received the message when a bot detected the addition of Chronophilia to Category:CS1 errors: missing periodical‎. As I understand it, the bot is not currently monitoring Category:CS1 errors: missing periodical‎.

The correct fix is to use {{cite book}} with chapter title, book title, publisher, author(s), editor(s), etc (all that information listed in OP's post).

—Trappist the monk (talk) 12:03, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Source integrity issue

At this writing, I'm about to add a section in the DC Thomson page about a former subsidiary of theirs, long-obscure children's imprint Peter Haddock (h/t my latest Reddit comment). (What WP already has on file under this topic title refers to an English footballer who once played for Newcastle and Leeds United.) During my research a while ago, I found out that Thomson acquired Haddock in 1993, but the only proof of this claim is a company-history brochure on their official issuu account. My usual helping hands--EBSCO, Gale, ProQuest, and the newspaper archives--have absolutely nothing discussing this anecdote amid their already sparse coverage. (Not even The Times, a given for British subjects, is of any help here.)

TL/DR: Primary source with practically no companion independent coverage to go by. Like I said, "long obscure". Then again, Gale has an obituary on its eponymous founder (1931/32-2001), belated by a year--but that's not even enough to base an article on him. For now, all we'll put in is this tidbit re: DC Thomson's closure of the company by late 2013.

If I've posted in the wrong place, then I express my apologies. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 07:39, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Although ISFDB cannot be considered a Reliable source (being user-generated, like Wikipedia), it can provide useful clues. Currently it has only 2 Peter Haddock titles entries – see here (click on 'Priory Classics' for one and '1972' for the other). Probably not much help. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.199.210.77 (talk) 16:05, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Technical problem with logged-in editing

I can't edit Help Desk or Reference Desk pages while logged in. The screen looks like this. There's no button to click to publish the edit. Wikimedia Status says everything is fine. I can edit ordinary pages, so it seems to be something to do with a script or suchlike loaded on those pages. 2A02:C7C:9A0B:3500:7D8C:B8AB:B5DA:8E43 (talk) 11:22, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi all,

I have created a page for POLIS UNIVERSITY, and I wanted to publish it but I am not an editor.

I have just created a user two months ago.

How can make this possible? IQAU-2023 (talk) 11:30, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Courtesy link User:IQAU-2023/sandbox it is just blatant advertising and not acceptable in it's current form. Theroadislong (talk) 11:35, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Did you write User:IQAU-2023/sandbox yourself? (I suspect that you did not.) -- Hoary (talk) 11:38, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

"Being an integral part and fully embedded in the society and the local ecosystem has been part of its vision and mission since day one. It is inherent to the DNA of this institution to position itself as an actor with strong and effective ties to the local economy, to the policy makers and to the society at large." See WP:PEACOCK.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 11:46, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

I'm afraid that, like many people, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is. Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. ColinFine (talk) 12:10, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

The text appears to be largely copied and pasted from the university’s website, which is a copyright violation and therefore unacceptable under any circumstances, and I have tagged the page for speedy deletion on that basis. --Finngall ^talk 14:03, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Help me

hey! I need some help from you guys. One user again reverted my edits without any specific reason and said "Block evading sock" Bruhh is here (talk) 14:35, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

 Note: A sockpuppet investigation involving this user has been opened. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:50, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

He still reverting my edits without any explanation. Please ask him to stop reverting my edits unnecessarily until the investigation is disclosed

@Tenryuu. Bruhh is here (talk) 03:10, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

I have no interest in this matter. Please don't ping me any further. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:25, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Who can help me @samX Bruhh is here (talk) 03:33, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Converting drafts into userboxes

Hello! Since I've remembered about this draft I've created a while ago, which hardly meets WP:GNG as of now, I just wanted to ask if there's a way to turn the page into a personal userbox, so I can keep on working on it while reducing the backlog. Should I just use the "Move" function? Oltrepier (talk) 15:53, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Oltrepier as it is a "Draft article not currently submitted for review." it is not part of the backlog. Continue working on it where it is as only after you have submitted it, does it join the queue - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 16:36, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

@Arjayay Good, but I can still move the page to the user space if I needed to, right? Oltrepier (talk) 16:47, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Oltrepier If you want to move it to your sandbox, you can. Ignoring the bots and the reverted sock, you are, effectively, the only editor. If there had been substantial edits by other editors, it should stay as a draft. - Arjayay (talk) 16:55, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

@Arjayay Ok, thank you for your help! : ) Oltrepier (talk) 17:11, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Citation Errors

Hello. I just created the article List of songs recorded by For King & Country and it appears that I have many citation errors. I'm not a citation expert, and Citation Bot doesn't find anything to fix. Could somebody go in there and fix all of the citations that need fixing? Cherrell410 (talk) 16:12, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Does the (help) text for those errors not tell you what you need to know to fix them?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 16:56, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

 Done - All but one of the errors was caused by non-printing space being inserted into the titles. This is probably due to cut-and-paste which can give all sorts of hidden errors. If you can't sort them out, retype them to get rid of the problem. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 17:00, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Alrighty, thanks! Cherrell410 (talk) 17:12, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

My profile is not showing

My profile is not showing when I search in wikipedia Manshad Manzz (talk) 16:19, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Manshad Manzz, Wikipedia does not have "profiles", we are not Facebook. You have a user page at Manshad Manzz which is not meant to show in an article search, because it is not an article. Please read Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not for a more detailed explanation. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 16:31, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

What counts as WP:GNG for movies?

I recently came across an article, Hitler's Grave, and noticed it has one source, which only gives the movie a passing mention. However, after googling the film online to find more sources, I only found some review websites like Rotten Tomatoes. Do these count as reliable sources, or does it not pass WP:GNG? RteeeeKed💬📖 16:42, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

@RteeeeKed: Take a look at WP:NFILM for the guideline. RudolfRed (talk) 17:03, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, will do. RteeeeKed💬📖 20:11, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

RteeeeKed, Rotten Tomatoes is an aggregator that can be used cautiously. One of its most useful features is that it often links to professional critical reviews published in reliable sources. Read Wikipedia:Review aggregators for more information. In this particular case, their coverage of the film is negligible, and does not include any critic reviews. Cullen328 (talk) 20:25, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

After checking the other two things that were related (the other films were for a different film named Burial), I've concluded that there isn't enough coverage to justify a Wikipedia article. Already been nominated for deletion. RteeeeKed💬📖 20:39, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Deleted page

My name is Graham Fulton. I'm a a poet and I've had a page on Wikipedia for over ten years. I went to check on it today for the first time in a while and find that it no longer exists! Why is this, and how can get it reinstated. 46.208.66.82 (talk) 17:28, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Graham_Fulton. Articles about poets need to meet WP:NPOET, which apparently is not the case here. RudolfRed (talk) 17:49, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Graham. Wikipedia's article about you (which was never "your page") was deleted last month: you can see the deletion discussion here. It was concluded there there were not enough independent reliable substantial sources about you to meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability.

If you can find several sources about you (not from you or your associates) that each meet the golden rule, then it is possible that Wikipedia could again have an article about you - you are strongly discouraged from attempting to write it yourself, but if you can find such sources and present them here, then there is a possibility somebody might be willing to have a go. Alternatively, if you present them at WT:WikiProject Poetry somebody there might be interested.

However, if you cannot find such sources, please do not spend any more time on this or ask anybody else to do so.

You might also care to have a look at An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. ColinFine (talk) 17:50, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

The article was created by somebody with the odd username "Daveallenukseo". Allen seems to have had no interests outside Fulton. -- Hoary (talk) 06:52, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Username policy violation on foreign-language Wikipedia

A bit back, I was browsing through Wikipedia and came across a link to the Arabic Wikipedia, which I clicked out of curiosity. Since it was in Arabic, I left, but soon after an automated bot welcomed me. I didn't care, since I wouldn't likely contribute to the Arabic Wikipedia since I don't speak it. But yesterday, I got a message on my talk page saying that my username violated the username policy on the Arabic Wikipedia and that if I did not request a username change within seven days, I would be blocked on the Arabic Wikipedia. (at least, that's what my browser's built-in translator said)

I don't want to change my username, as, of course, that would change my username here too. I also can't respond to the post well, as I would have to use Google Translate. My question is: What should I do here, and would a block there affect my editing here in some way? interstatefive  18:20, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Interstatefive, other users seem to have had the same problem and resolved it at User talk:Dr-Taher. TSventon (talk) 18:37, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

From the comments there, it seems that it's fine to allow the block on the Arabic Wikipedia. After all, it will be a soft block, so if I suddenly learn Arabic and want to contribute there, I can just create a new account. interstatefive  18:42, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

I can recommend Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library, which you [generally] can't use if you are blocked on any project. The message seems unhelpful when addressed to editors who have no interest in editing ar Wikipedia, but it may well be in line with ar Wikipedia rules. TSventon (talk) 18:58, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

So TWL will be the only effect of an Arabic Wikipedia block here? interstatefive  19:23, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

I don't know what other effects there might be, but you can probably worry about further problems if and when they happen. I am tempted to ask Dr-Taher if they could confine their blocks to editors who actually edit ar Wikipedia, but without much hope of success. TSventon (talk) 20:16, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Miss Italia

Could someone correct the title of this page? Italics should not be inserted. JackkBrown (talk) 23:03, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown:  Done! I removed the italics by adding |italic title=no to {{Infobox television}}. GoingBatty (talk) 01:51, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: thank you, well done; however within the infobox the italics remained. JackkBrown (talk) 12:45, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

I have added name = {{noitalic|Miss Italia}}.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 13:46, 28 May 2023 (UTC)