Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fashion/Archive 7

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Internet's role in fashion, rise of active male interest in fashion

Doesn't seem to be much on this. No discussion of rising popularity in male-dominated internet fashion communities (see google trends for some information/reflection, or visit some of these sites.) such as Hypebeast, Reddit's Malefashionadvice, Ask Andy, Styleforum, Superfuture, Stylezeitgeist, as well as general rising male interest in fashion as well- particularly on tumblr and twitter (hashtags like #streetwear and #menswear are popular.)

Also a lack of information on the expensive/"designer", hype-driven brands popular on the internet such as Common Projects shoes and Temple of Jawnz leather jackets — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bbmtourne (talk • contribs) 08:29, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Photographer?

Would Jennifer Graylock fit in your project as a fashion photgrapher?--Canoe1967 (talk) 21:06, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

I suppose so, but the article would have to assert her notability within that field and do all the other things it needs to be kept. Daniel Case (talk) 05:01, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Resolved

I will wait for the outcome of the AfD before adding her to your project then.--Canoe1967 (talk) 23:31, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Help with Fashion Article

Hello, I created a page for Alexis Mabille, and I was wondering if anyone had anything to add. XFix329 (talk) 05:03, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

First fashion edit-a-thon + image donation

Dear everybody,

Join us in taking fashion to Wikipedia on Friday the 22^nd of March, when there there will be an edit-a-thon in Stockholm, Sweden with fashion as its theme! As you know currently the fashion coverage in Wikipedia is rather limited and we would like to help changing that.

For this event we have received an image donation with hundreds of pictures from the Nordic Museum and also a first donation of eight pictures from ModeMuseum (Antwerpen), and during the edit-a-thon in Stockholm we will create and expand fashion articles in both Swedish and English by using the fashion pictures uploaded from the museums. Please see here for the categories: Commons:Category:Projekt: Mode och dräkthistoria and Commons:Category:Images from MoMu - Fashion Museum Province of Antwerp.

We would love your help with connecting the pictures to suitable articles (either existing or new ones) in preparation for the event so that the participants – student and GLAM experts without much prior knowledge of Wikipedia editing – can get started easier and focus on writing! You can help out by adding pictures and suggested articles here.

Besides improving Wikipedia's fashion coverage, we hope to show GLAMs just how productive an event like this can be and how much their images will be used. This will hopefully increase their interest in making more and larger image donations in the future! You can all really make a difference by adding the images to suitable articles and expanding the texts! If you cannot be present at the Nordic museum we invite you to participate online during the event. Lets show the GLAMs, experts and newbies the power of our international movement and how fun it can be to contribute to free knowledge!

The Stockholm fashion event is organized by Europeana Fashion, Europeana, Stockholm University, the Nordic Museum and Wikimedia Sweden.

I hope that you will join in!

Best,

John Andersson (WMSE) (talk) 22:17, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Excellent (Wish I knew enough Swedish to say something complimentary ...) What times (local; we can convert for our home time zones as needed) will it be held? If there is the possibility of being patched in through, say, Skype or something, I'm interested (and I might get others involved). Daniel Case (talk) 01:47, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Oops, wait ... I checked my calendar, and that day may not be good. But keep me posted. Daniel Case (talk) 01:48, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi!

The event starts at 10.30 a.m. Central European Time and people will start writing articles at around 12.30.

Could you tell me a bit more how you are thinking that you would like to get patched in? Do you mean to listen on the presentations? In general I am picturing the discussion page on sv:Wikipediadiskussion:Skrivstuga/Mode to be a central hub for discussions (it's perfectly fine to write there in English). It would be really great if you could get others involved as well!

Also, if you or anyone else have suggestions on what articles the images could illustrate (missing or existing) that would be great (preferably before Friday). Perhaps the images could illustrate a specific style, a type of clothing, a fashion trend, a fashion decade, specific designers etc. My own expertise lays elsewhere, so I would be very grateful for any help! John Andersson (WMSE) (talk) 12:29, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

These are fantastic! I've already added a couple of the Chintz images to Chintz. Thank you for this. Will keep an eye on the project. Mabalu (talk) 10:13, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Awesome! John Andersson (WMSE) (talk) 17:51, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Hat questions

Does anyone know what type of hats these are and what articles they could illustrate?

John Andersson (WMSE) (talk) 18:01, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Fabulous pics! The one in the middle would be great for Poke bonnet and Straw hat (as they all appear to be woven straw). The garment at the top of the same picture is a pelerine (which needs an article doing!) The one second from right is also poke bonnets. The first one shows a couple of toque hats, although the toque article needs expanding to cover these 19th/early 20th century women's hats. I think the others are generally "hats", specific hat names don't leap to mind although they would all be good candidates for the general fashion by era categories. Mabalu (talk) 01:27, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I have added three of them on the list! John Andersson (WMSE) (talk) 17:13, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Cultural aspects of cosmetics

Hi, folks! As User:علی پیرحیاتی pointed out, the article Cosmetics is seriously lacking a description of the cultural aspects of makeup: who wears it, in which contexts people wear it, the ceremony of putting makeup, etc. Can someone start adding text about it? Thanks! --NaBUru38 (talk) 18:54, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Fedora hat.jpg

file:Fedora hat.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 00:58, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Request for input

Hello, I'd like some input here at Goth subculture. We are discussing a section regarding violence against members of the culture. Sephiroth storm (talk) 16:32, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Primark

Hi, could some fresh eyes and opinions take a look at the Primark Talk page and participate in the ongoing discussion. --HighKing (talk) 15:08, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Please go directly to this section on the talk page. Thanks very much, New worl (talk) 02:56, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Sruli Recht for deletion

A discussion is being held regarding Icelandic designer Sruli Recht at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sruli Recht (2nd nomination). The article is not tagged under with the project's banner but it seems to fall under it's scope of concern, hence this notification. Best regards — Frankie (talk) 20:20, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

File:Star in a Bra UK Logo 2013.jpg

File:Star in a Bra UK Logo 2013.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 06:41, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

File:Star in a Bra UK Logo 2013.jpg has been renominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 02:31, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Onesie

WP Fashion in the Signpost

The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Fashion for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot (talk) 16:19, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Blue dress of Meagan Good

I am a bit out of my comfort zone so I am hoping you fashion folks might be able to help me expand Blue dress of Meagan Good.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:25, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Sarah Jessica Parker dress

I was looking at Category:Individual dresses and wondering why there is no Sarah Jessica Parker dress. I remember one (black I think) where she walked across the awards ceremony stage with a long slit availing her leggy body with FMPs on. Apparently googling Sarah Jessica Parker dress yields ma ny results. Does she not have one iconic dress?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:38, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

All I've got is a tangent: In a piece about paparazzi, "Celebrities do fight back: in an attempt to deflate the market value of paparazzi photography, Madonna and Sarah Jessica Parker wear the same clothes in public every day." - Colors (magazine). (However, this Spring 2013 issue is on "Making the News", and carries a disclaimer at the end that some stories were deliberately falsified. So confirmation would be required before that gets added to any article). Hope that amuses. –Quiddity (talk) 18:57, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

I have to say that I cannot think of a single Sarah Jessica Parker dress, apart from her pink feathery Oscar de la Renta dress, that stands out in the memory. I do remember her wearing a bizarre green hat, but I don't think we need articles on every single individual dress that receives more than a passing mention - unless the coverage and notability endure over a significant period of time - and even then, they may be more appropriately covered in a few lines in a Red carpet fashion of (year) article. Not every dress will be the Green Versace dress of Jennifer Lopez. Mabalu (talk) 23:46, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blue dress of Meagan Good

I imagine you fashion folks have been through WP:AFDs on individual dresses. If there is a case to be made, I need help at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blue dress of Meagan Good.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:29, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Business casual

The article Business casual turned up in Category:Stubs but I noticed that it's been gradually diminished by several different editors (some IPs and vandalism reverts, but not all) from a peak size of 5.7k to about 10% of that, with removal of sourced content. It's now an unsourced single sentence with an unsourced image which I've got doubts about (is a sleeveless top really acceptable as "business casual" for women?) Someone from this project might like to have a look at it. PamD 13:52, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

"Tortoiseshell"

June 12 2004-billboards of lahore-beauty girl-c.JPG

image:June 12 2004-billboards of lahore-beauty girl-c.JPG has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 04:08, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Dunn's yellow rose design.jpg

image:Dunn's yellow rose design.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:08, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Back flap pants.jpg

image:Back flap pants.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:36, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

File:Serpent Belt.jpg

Does anyone know if File:Serpent Belt.jpg is a fashion object or an art object? If it's art, it requires a fair-use rationale, if it's fashion, does it require such? Basic clothing does not, but this isn't basic fashion, it's art-fashion. -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 02:14, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Under current U.S. copyright law, which governs our fair-use policies, all clothing and jewelry are considered useful articles and thus ineligible for copyright. The CC-BY licensing used on Flickr is valid. In fact, we should move it to Commons. Daniel Case (talk) 04:45, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Missing topics page

I have updated Missing topics about clothing and fabrics - Skysmith (talk) - Skysmith (talk) 08:51, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Skysmith - interesting, I didn't know this existed. Is this not something that Wikipedia:Requested articles/Arts and entertainment/Fashion (which I've been maintaining, verifying, and gradually chipping away at) already tries to cover? Mabalu (talk) 09:24, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

As you'll have seen by now, no doubt, I was also WP:BOLD and redirected/removed one entry for Doris Moore because I realised I'd written the article on her (as Doris Langley Moore) back in 2010! Mabalu (talk) 09:29, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Well, these are just based on what sources I have had and I claim no expertise in the area :-) As for redirects, lots of red links in my Missing Topics pages may be eligible for redirects but I often do not know whether they would be appropriate ones. - Skysmith (talk) 10:16, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

BeltBuckle150.jpg

image:BeltBuckle150.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 70.24.244.158 (talk) 07:37, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Preslav-earings.jpg

Preslav-neckless150.jpg

Jennifer-lopez-green-versace-dress.jpg

image:Jennifer-lopez-green-versace-dress.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 70.24.244.158 (talk) 07:50, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Yellow dress of Reese Witherspoon.jpg

Image:Yellow dress of Reese Witherspoon.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 70.24.244.158 (talk) 07:53, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Three quarter pants, Capri pants

Are Capri pants a specific style of pant, or is that one of several names for three quarter pants? It strikes me that perhaps the former page should be merged to the latter, which is currently a short stub. But people with more specialized knowledge may have other ideas. Cnilep (talk) 03:24, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Capris are pretty specific. To me, three-quarter pants simply means any style of trouser that is that length - so a pair of gaucho pants (which for some reason redirects to Trousers which doesn't even mention them...) or culottes, or even cut-off jeans, they are all three-quarter. Capris to me describe a tight-fitting or at least slim-fitted pair of pants, something worn by Audrey Hepburn on a bicycle... So no to the redirect there, but maybe redirect to Trousers. (And having noticed it, a standalone article for gaucho pants might be appropriate...) Mabalu (talk) 11:13, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

6 western floral.jpg

image:6 western floral.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 70.24.249.39 (talk) 06:11, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Sigepbadge.jpg

image:Sigepbadge.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.131.217 (talk) 04:50, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

About "Flanker (perfume)"

Bon soir Mesdames et Messieurs,
A few things.

I've put some work into the article, but would greatly appreciate your much more informed help.
Should "flankers" have a link in Template:Infobox fragrance as tagline does? It's a technical term, and I think could do with an explanation
Should "flankers" have stand-alone articles, or should they redirect to the "pillar" fragrance? In most cases I would say yes, but this might need to be assessed on a case-by-case basis.

Your thoughts? Pete aka --Shirt58 (talk) 11:54, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Anyone here? --Shirt58 (talk) 13:20, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Requested article: russet coat

I stubbed sukmana, which sources describe as a Polish russet coat. They are unclear whether it is a Polish word for a russet coat, or a russet coat, and the lack of a wiki article on the russet coat is a problem. Commons has a commons:category:Russet coat, but it's hardly helpful, or well populated. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:34, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

I think the term generally refers to a coat made from russet. Mabalu (talk) 11:35, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Good point, but I think such an item of clothing is notable in itself. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:04, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Are professional models in costumes cosplaying?

Please see my question at WikiProject_Video_games. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:34, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Tie-dye Reemergence in Fashion

I just rewrote the tie-dye article head, and include a reference from Savannah Now on the reemergence of tie-dye into the fashion world. I'm not sure how this fits into Project Fashion, but I thought it might be worth a mention so that no one is shocked when tie-dye appears on your local runway. Rfransom (talk) 01:52, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2013 September 7

Discussion of two images of dresses is still ongoing. Vote while it lasts. --George Ho (talk) 04:15, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

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Wikipedia talk:Hardy Amies Ltd page

Hi, Would it be possible to get help with editing this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardy_Amies ? I am a member of the company and therefore not deemed a reliable source. I need to add a section regarding the new store opening at no.8 Savile Row. There are numerous articles online (secondary sources); http://www.telegraph.co.uk/luxury/mens-style/45158/hardy-amies-new-flagship-store.html http://www.drapersonline.com/news/hardy-amies-opens-new-savile-row-store/5064069.article#.VBhFGfldWAU http://therakeonline.com/uncategorized/hardy-amies-opens-at-no-8/

Would the factual information from these articles be deemed reliable enough to be used underneath a new heading named 'No.8 Savile Row' on the Hardy Amies Ltd page? Also, is it possible to remove information? As there is a lot of Sir Edwin Hardy Amies' history which seems to be directly copied from this page; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Hardy_Amies which isn't really relevant to the brand.

Thank you in advance for any help anyone can offer 195.171.80.170 (talk) 14:22, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Francois Russo

Dear fashion experts: Is this a notable designer, and should this Abandoned Afc submission be kept and improved? The editor added additional references as requested by the reviewer, but then never resubmitted. —Anne Delong (talk) 15:45, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Anne Delong! I had a quick look and a quick scan for sources, etc, and from what I saw, I think he probably passes the notability barrier, particularly if the article is about both him and the company Maison Takuya. The pic REALLY needs cropping down. The sources look mostly fine to me. So yes, I think I would approve this article, as long as the picture is cut down. Mabalu (talk) 16:40, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

I will crop and reupload now.--ukexpat (talk) 19:17, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Done--ukexpat (talk) 19:20, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, ukexpat. I have added a couple of extra sources and removed some promotional language. —Anne Delong (talk) 19:47, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Neutral notification of image deletion discussion

It's taking place here: Wikipedia:Files_for_deletion/2014_March_30#File:2014.03.29.torso.sculpture.at.rodeo.dr.and.dayton.way.beverly.hills.CA.jpg regarding an image used here: Rodeo Drive Walk of Style.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 14:11, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Boris Bidjan Saberi

Dear fashion experts: Is this a notable designer, and should this old Afc submission be kept and improved instead of being deleted as a stale draft? —Anne Delong (talk) 15:14, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Anne Delong - I think he's probably notable - the name rings a bell. I'm certainly sure I have heard of him recently. I do wonder whether he doesn't already have an article on him or one was recently speedy deleted as promotional... Mabalu (talk) 16:37, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

I was thinking of Bijan (designer), but I'm pretty sure this guy is quite notable too. Will take a closer look at the article. Mabalu (talk) 16:39, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to do this. I am willing to remove any promotional stuff, but I since my idea of fashion is checking to make sure that my shoes match, I would prefer that someone else decide whether it's worth doing. —Anne Delong (talk) 16:44, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Anne Delong - I've just quickly overhauled the submitted article. It hit me just as I was finishing it up where I recognised him from...! - but I think what I've done is sufficient to demonstrate his notability - hopefully good enough to avoid it being chucked out a fourth time in a row! Mabalu (talk) 18:20, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

It's in mainspace and appears to be sticking this time....thanks! —Anne Delong (talk) 19:37, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Ottawa fashion week

Dear fashion experts: Here's an old abandoned Afc submission that I have been improving, but I am not a fashion expert. Have I added appropriately reliable references? Is the draft ready for mainspace? I would appreciate help from someone who understands better what this is all about. —Anne Delong (talk) 19:11, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Okay, I have moved that article to mainspace. —Anne Delong (talk) 20:09, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Auguste Soesastro

Here's yet another old Afc submission about a person in the fashion industry. Should this page be kept and improved, or should it be deleted as a stale draft? —Anne Delong (talk) 23:43, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Indonesian fashion designers are usually pretty well covered by The Jakarta Post and other publications. Looks like adding sources to support the statements should be pretty straightforward as it seems well written otherwise, but I will have a look for proper notability evidence. Mabalu (talk) 00:28, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Mabalu, I never did thank you for fixing this up so I could move it to mainspace. So, thanks! —Anne Delong (talk) 02:43, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Angel Rivera Couture

Dear editors: Some of these sources are obviously not reliable, but others need someone with fashion expertise to check them out/ Should the article be deleted as a stale draft? —Anne Delong (talk) 00:55, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Douglas Richard Ferguson

Dear fashion experts: Here's another abandoned Afc submission that will soon be deleted as a stale draft. Is this a notable designer? Should the article be kept and improved? —Anne Delong (talk) 03:05, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi again, Anne Delong - this guy SOUNDS like he should be notable but the article is ABSOLUTELY crammed with unsourced stuff. Sounds autobiographical, but if he is represented in that many collections/museums, has had that long a career, and the pictures (albeit copyvio?) show evidence of coverage in major fashion publications, then he OUGHT to be at least worth a simple stub. Mabalu (talk) 09:34, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Mabalu. I will postpone deletion pending better sourcing and request a copyright check on the images. —Anne Delong (talk) 09:51, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

No worries. Noticing the user who created it, it is UBER-autobiographical, massive conflict of interest stuff, but will tackle it, if necessary wiping clean and starting over again with bare essentials. Mabalu (talk) 10:08, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Mabalu, I see that you've done a fair amount of work on this. Let me know if you think it's ready for mainspace. —Anne Delong (talk) 11:03, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Anne Delong yes, I think it's ready to go into mainspace, but the images need checking for possible copyright violation. Do take a look at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Auguste Soesastro too, please. Mabalu (talk) 11:19, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Okay, Mabalu, they are both in mainspace now, and I have left a message at WP:Copyright problems about the images. Thanks for taking time to fix these up. —Anne Delong (talk) 12:01, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Bikini on peer review

Bikini, one of the oldest articles of this project has gone into a peer review here. It was created on Novemeber 1, 2001, One day after Japan. That was before Abraham Lincoln (Nov 4), France (Nov 4) and California (Nov 17) were created on Wikipedia. (courtesy: TonyTheTiger) It also is a highly viewed article. If you search for Bikini using google the first return is this article. Page visitation reached its highest in 2011, and the highest number of visitors come from India, Mexico and Spain.

A lot of work has gone into the article. It kept expanding and eventually three new spin-off articles were created - History of the bikini (a good article), Bikini in popular culture and Bikini variants. The popular culture article split its own spin-offs into Category:Individual bikinis. The variants article in turn split into specific articles for Monokini and Tankini. Work has gone into other related article as well, like Thong (clothing) and Bikini waxing.

The review is not a success because of low participation. Can you participate, please? Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 21:10, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Don't worry about that too much ... all peer reviews are lightly attended, unfortunately. Daniel Case (talk) 03:04, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet For Wikiproject Fashion At Wikimania 2014

Are you looking to recruit more contributors to your project?
We are offering to design and print physical paper leaflets to be distributed at Wikimania 2014 for all projects that apply.
For more information, click the link below.
Project leaflets
Adikhajuria (talk) 15:10, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

I think this is a great idea. We should do it. Can we make it really glossy, like a ... fashion magazine? Daniel Case (talk) 17:41, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

You can do it in whatever way you wish.Adikhajuria (talk) 10:51, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride 2014

You are invited to participate in Wiki Loves Pride 2014, a campaign to create and improve LGBT-related content at Wikipedia and its sister projects. The campaign will take place throughout the month of June, culminating with a multinational edit-a-thon on June 21. Meetups are being held in some cities, or you can participate remotely. All constructive edits are welcome in order to contribute to Wikipedia's mission of providing quality, accurate information. Articles related to LGBT fashion designers may be of particular interest. You can also upload LGBT-related images by participating in Wikimedia Commons' LGBT-related photo challenge. You are encouraged to share the results of your work here. Happy editing! --Another Believer _(Talk) 19:15, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet For Wikiproject Fashion At Wikimania 2014 (updated version)

Please note: This is an updated version of a previous post that I made.

Hi all,

My name is Adi Khajuria and I am helping out with Wikimania 2014 in London.

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Kleargear deletion discussion notification notice

Discussion about whether or not to delete article for Kleargear, discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kleargear (2nd nomination). — Cirt (talk) 23:46, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Eyes needed on Treats!

I've closed this RFC as malformed....see the bottom for the newer one - which is better formed :)

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

I'm requesting eyes ( and input ) on the talk page of Talk:Treats!. On the article I removed an image here as I believed it failed NFCC 3, 5, & 8. I placed a note on the talk page with a detailed rationale, The admin chillum agreed with me , however, TonyTheTiger did not and he restored the image. I'm seeking consensus on whether or not this image violated NFCC 3,5 & 8. Thanks ! Kosh Vorlon 20:02, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Please note that the image was restored along with the addition of corresponding text in the article and further explaination on the talk page of the need for a color image so as not to mislead the reader into believing this is a black-and-white art magazine as might be inferred from the more famous image in the infobox.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:22, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Dylan Penn

Please comment on dispute at Template:Did you know nominations/Dylan Penn. Helen Online 06:29, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

RFC , take 2

So I closed my prior RFC as it was suggested that it was malformed I've re-opened it here . Your input would be appreciated Kosh Vorlon 16:52, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Daria Kostenko

Dear fashion experts: This old draft was never submitted to be in the encyclopedia. Is this a notable fashion designer, and should the page be kept and improved? —Anne Delong (talk) 15:10, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Anne Delong Delete as a direct copy-and-paste from the designer's website so it is copyvio, not even neutral copyvio. The website is down but I saw the Google cache. Even if she is notable (which I really can't ascertain from a quick search) she should have a new article started from scratch. Mabalu (talk) 15:32, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks finding that, Mabalu. One more off my list... —Anne Delong (talk) 19:44, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Wallpaper group theory

Wallpaper group is an article written by mathematicians but this can explain a lot in fashion. To summarize the article, there is a classification of patterns which, if applied, can put any pattern into 1 of 17 categories.

I would be interested to learn if any research has ever been done to track cultural preferences for textile prints and weaves using any of these wallpaper groups in preference to others, and if this model gives insight to historical migration of fashion tastes or explains current trends.

Right now seemingly no fashion articles link to this article. Blue Rasberry (talk) 12:47, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Barbers and hairdressers

FYI Category:Barbers has been proposed to be merged to Category:Hairdressers and the equivalent fictional categories. -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 06:13, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Rodeo Drive Walk of Style

Some eyes on here would be nice; student assignment happening.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 20:56, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

New article, take a look

Outfit of the day, surprised no one started it. Needs work and expansion. Feel free to help. Tinton5 (talk) 23:30, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Discussion on inclusion or exclusion of Virginia Draa study in school uniforms article

Please see: Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Did_this_noticeboard_.22support.22_the_inclusion_of_the_Virginia_Draa_school_uniform_study_at_School_uniforms WhisperToMe (talk) 11:42, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Joan Smalls

FYI, this page has been hijacked by an user with serious ownership issues bent on restoring a revision that clearly fails to comply with the MOS. He has reverted every user that tries to edit "his" revision and for some reason, even tried to impersonate an admin by placing a stale protection template in it. 24.139.227.219 (talk) 00:11, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Help requested w/ Nail polish

Could I get some help improving Nail polish? Seems like it has so much potential (and maybe some danger of being bombed w/ POV brand-promotion?)! thx... JDanek007^Talk 05:28, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Met Gala exhibit/fashion themes

I may have to remove the list of Met Gala themes unless someone can find a source for it. The list was added by what is almost a WP:SPA with minimal other activity on WP. If you can help, please come by or comment at Talk:Met_Gala#Met_Gala_exhibit.2Ffashion_themes.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:06, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Met Gala event day chairs

Given the success of my request above, I am asking if people would also be willing to help fill in Met_Gala#Honorary_event_day_chairs. Leave comments at Talk:Met_Gala#Event_day_chairs.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:13, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Met Gala Benefit Chair vs. Event Day Chair

Does anyone understand what the difference is between the Met Gala chair of the benefit and the (honorary) chair of the event day (e.g., http://www.nytimes.com/1995/10/09/nyregion/chronicle-299595.html)? Should we include both? Please comment at Talk:Met_Gala#Benefit_Chair_vs._Event_Day_Chair.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Review needed at Draft:Nachiket Barve (fashion designer)

Thanks for any help from AFC from the specialists here: Draft:Nachiket Barve. MatthewVanitas (talk) 03:44, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Notable Kerry Washington dress?

Is this Kerry Washington dress a notable individual dress?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:01, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

In my opinion? No. Never heard of it before, not sure I've seen it before, although I've not really looked into red carpet fashion for a while. I need to get back to those articles. It would need to have received repeated coverage, consideration and assessment to qualify as a notable individual dress, and I don't think it has. Probably worth a mention in a Red carpet fashion of 2013 article though. Mabalu (talk) 09:08, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Eyes needed...

at Talk:Leggings/Archive 1#What is wrong with a man in leggings? BMK (talk) 15:35, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

It would have been polite (albeit not essential I grant,) to let me know this had been requested, given I'm the other party in the issue. Chaheel Riens (talk) 15:44, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Top-Importance articles

I generated a list of the Top Importance articles in WP:FASHION and disagree with some of the articles that have been included. In particular, I disagree that Victoria's Secret Fashion Show, Imelda Marcos, Victoria Beckham, and Hairstyles in the 1950s are must-have[s] for a print encyclopedia[1] for this project. I'm sure if I went digging I could find other articles that appear to have the wrong importance level as well. Does anyone object if I go ahead and fix all of these? Thanks! --Ca2james (talk) 21:49, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Go ahead. The assessment drive was done ... well, saying it was piecemeal is perhaps giving it too much credit. I think I even complained about it at the time. Daniel Case (talk) 23:31, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Vogue editions merger proposal

I am proposing that the articles on the various Vogue editions be merged. If you are interested in opining, please see the proposal and discussion here. Holdek (talk) 23:01, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Notability standards for models

Is there a way to come up with a set of notability standards for models other than the general WP:N and WP:GNG. I was thinking that there could be a list of things that confer automatic notability for a model:

Solo Vogue cover (US, Paris, UK, Italian)
Victoria's Secret Fashion Show appearance
Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue
Face of a worldwide brand.

Thoughts?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:33, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Is the Victoria's Secret show really that major? I'd note that being a Pirelli Calendar model would be another benchmark as Pirelli seem to only choose the most notable models of the day. There appear to be a number of Victoria's Secret models who do not have articles despite being in the show. I'd be inclined to consider the Pirelli calendar more of an indicator of notability. Definitely agree that being a spokesmodel/"face" for an international brand indicates notability as a model. It's a tough call - many of these models receive huge exposure and are certainly very notable in their field, but may not have significant notability by WP standards due to the coverage being largely visual. Mabalu (talk) 23:57, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

VSFS is a lingerie model standard, SISwim is a swimsuit model standard. I have never seen the Pirelli calendar is it swimsuits or lingerie? P.S. My list was just to get the conversation started. I am open to suggestions from others around the world. It certainly would not surprise me if other countries like France, Italy or Brazil had other notability benchmarks to propose.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:59, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

The Pirelli calendar is high-class pin-up stuff, but uses many leading fashion models. It is shot by many of the best photographers - including Norman Parkinson, Sarah Moon, Avedon, Testino, Leibovitz, Lagerfeld, etc. Very much a showcase of the leading talent of any particular year - the best photographers, etc. It certainly has a very high reputation for what it essentially is. Mabalu (talk) 12:37, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

It could be a fashion model standard along with Vogue. I think with basic standards for lingerie, swimsuit and fashion modelling in the works we would be well on our way. What would be a good standard for runway models. Is there a certain set of Fashion Week events that are considered the elite events for models to walk?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:27, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Edit war in need of further opinions at Emily Ratajkowski

Can we get some responses to an edit war at Talk:Emily_Ratajkowski#GQ_cover_in_WP:LEAD.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:41, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Michelle Obama/archive3

Please come comment at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Michelle Obama/archive3.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:53, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Opinions needed for an RfC

I just opened up an RfC over on Treats! available right here . Feel free to stop by and give your opinion.

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Peer review/Emily Ratajkowski/archive1

I need comments at Wikipedia:Peer review/Emily Ratajkowski/archive1 to guide editorial improvements.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:42, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

No Lifeguard on Duty: The Accidental Life of the World's First Supermodel

No Lifeguard on Duty: The Accidental Life of the World's First Supermodel

I've started a new article on the book by Janice Dickinson — No Lifeguard on Duty: The Accidental Life of the World's First Supermodel.

Feel free to help out with additional secondary sources, and/or chip in with collaborative discussion at Talk:No Lifeguard on Duty: The Accidental Life of the World's First Supermodel.

Thank you, — Cirt (talk) 06:39, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Vogue Cover templates

Five years ago templates for the Vogue cover content now logged at List of Vogue cover models were TFDed at Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2009_August_14#Template:1970-1979VogueCovers. Now, that the research has been done to fill in the templates, do we want to restore them?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:20, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

TonyTheTiger I am having trouble imagining what these templates are and how they work based on List of Vogue cover models. Is the information in these templates backed with a citation anywhere? Blue Rasberry (talk) 12:32, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

They looked like this: User:TonyTheTiger/2000-2009VogueCovers.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:14, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Carmen Haid

Hello fashionable ones.... Is this old AfC submission about a notable person? If so, I am willing to edit the article to NPOV. —Anne Delong (talk) 03:50, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, looks possibly notable to me. Vogue (at least on their website) covered the closing of her last venture,[2] which suggests notability to me. Most of the press seems specific to Atelier Meyer rather than Haid herself. Don't feel strongly one way or the other though. Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:25, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Also, her opening & relaunch was covered by Women's Wear Daily. A bit more background via brief excerpt from the December 29, 2009 WWD article: "Meanwhile, last January, Carmen Haid, a former communications director for Tommy Hilfiger in the U.K., and fashion journalist Alice Kodell launched the vintage clothing Web site Atelier-Mayer.com. The store takes a similarly historical approach to vintage clothing. It was inspired by Haid’s great aunt, the late haute couture dressmaker Klaudia Mayer, who founded the original Atelier Mayer in 1927. Haid believes the launch comes at an opportune moment, as consumers are questioning the value of fast fashion." Fashionethics (talk) 09:12, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Emily Ratajkowski FAC

Please comment at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Emily Ratajkowski/archive1.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:42, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live!

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Dolce & Gabbana article

I made individual articles for Dolce and Gabbana and need some assistance merging info from the high-importance D&G article into their individual articles. Please see my message on the talk page here: Talk:Dolce & Gabbana#Split. I know nothing about fashion so would appreciate some help. Thanks! —Мандичка^YO 😜 03:33, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Video vixen listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Video vixen. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. 65.94.43.89 (talk) 09:28, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Fashion and the prime minister of India

The prime minister of India gets a lot of media coverage for his fashion taste. I argue that it should be in his biography, some others say that it should not.

Could anyone please comment at Talk:Narendra_Modi#Fashion? Blue Rasberry (talk) 00:52, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

A discussion...

...which may be of interest to the members of this project is taking place here. BMK (talk) 10:46, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Discussion at Michael Kors brand talk page

Please leave feedback at the above page, whether or not the above article should be merged into the Michael Kors page, or the brand should have its own article. Tinton5 (talk) 20:46, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Sari

There is a problem with Template:Saree which is not displaying correctly, e.g. in the article Sari.--Johnsoniensis (talk) 13:24, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Ju Xiaowen listed at Requested moves

A requested move discussion has been initiated for Ju Xiaowen to be moved to Xiao Wen Ju. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 23:18, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Sun Feifei (model) listed at Requested moves

A requested move discussion has been initiated for Sun Feifei (model) to be moved to Fei Fei Sun. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 23:18, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Need help on a photo

Hello,

I'm trying to identify a woman on a photo taken during the latest Cannes film festival : she might be either a model or an actress (or both). Does anyone here knows who she is ? I've also asked the question at WikiProject film. Thanks ! Jean-Jacques Georges (talk) 08:58, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Update Marchon Eyewear CEO

Al Berg is no longer CEO of Marchon Eyewear. Claudio Gottardi has succeeded him as Chief Executive Officer of Marchon Eyewear and VSP.

Marchon Eyewear Wiki Page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marchon_Eyewear

VSP Wiki Page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VSP_Vision_Care

Executive Bloomberg Profile http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=12619130&privcapId=4172703&previousCapId=61084&previousTitle=marchon%20eyewear%20inc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.247.164.7 (talk) 19:34, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Arabic dress

I just came across this article via speedy deletion and the rationale was that it didn't expand on Arab_culture#Dress. I think that this has the potential to merit a page outside of the main article, so I've declined the speedy and just turned it into a redirect. I was wondering if anyone would be willing to help expand it? Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:05, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

"Facelift"

The usage and primary topic of facelift is under discussion, see talk:facelift (disambiguation) -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 04:35, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Need help with Obey (fashion)

This article needs attention from anyone with any knowledge about fashion and perhaps the topic in general, thanks. olowe2011 (talk) 23:58, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

History of swimwear

I have started the article. Please, check and advice. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 04:06, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Splitting Tory Burch (company) from Tory Burch

I have split Tory Burch (company) from Tory Burch. A lot of the detail about the company is not really relevant to her bio. However, they are generally somewhat encyclopedic. Thus, I have created a separate article. People who really know the business should help to flesh out the article when they get a chance.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:46, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Template:Designer labels advice

Can someone who knows WP:FASHION better than me determine if The Elder Statesman (brand) should be included in Template:Designer labels.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:00, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

If the aim of the template is to identify articles within the scope of topic for purposes of organizing and improving WP:FASHION, it would be appropriate to include, yes? There's significant potential for the list to grow to a substantial size, but that could enhance its utility as the project itself scales up.Fashionethics (talk) 00:50, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

2010s in fashion - review in Slate

From The Signpost -

2010s in fashion: Slate describes the Wikipedia page 2010s in fashion as "the most haunting document of our time" (October 20).

Blue Rasberry (talk) 12:49, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Notability of Fashion Times

I just prodded it; ping User:Bejnar, User:Kges1901 and User:DGG who commented on this in the past. I tried looking for a single independent source that discusses this company, but I can't see anything reliable. GBooks has nothing. GNews is spammed by articles published by them, but after few pages it peters out into non-relevant articles by others. I couldn't even find a single mention of the company in passing. Input from members of this project would be appreciated, but keep in mind WP:ITSIMPORTANT is not a sufficient argument. See WP:NCOMPANY. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:17, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

I have found no evidence that Fashion Times is a reliable site. --Bejnar (talk) 22:40, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Lauren Conrad//Celebs In volved in Fashion Industry

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I am working on Lauren Conrad's wiki page for a project, primarily with a focus on her recent charity work and clothing line (Paper Crown). Please check the talk page for Conrad's wiki, as I have proposed changes there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lauren_Conrad

If you feel I should add/delete any information or have other suggestions, please let me know. Advice is always welcome!

Sdowd14 (talk) 16:40, 6 November 2015 (UTC)sdowd14

GAR for Bra

Bra, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. sst✈^(discuss) 08:16, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Requested input on lede image for Dress

Please do pop along to Talk:Dress and offer your input/suggestions. It would be good to have several opinions. Mabalu (talk) 16:15, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Midriff

There's been a suggestion at talk:midriff to include in this project. Comments on this from people active in this project would be most welcome.

Peter ^Isotalo 01:25, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Contouring

Hi folks, I've created a stub-stub at Contouring. It could use some help and I _think_ this Wikiproject is the closest group there is to it. Even moving it up to a full paragraph would be really helpful. I know nothing about the topic and wouldn't know how to address this, but we clearly need coverage. Thanks. Hobit (talk) 12:24, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Article on headscarfs needs to be expanded urgently and link to articles explaining why some nuns wear headscarfs, articles on the hijab and why some muslimas wear it

This is really an important topic for discussions on the hijab, muslims/muslimas, if the reason why nuns put on headscarfs is the same why some muslimas put on a hijab. There must be a way to escalate it. I tried in that "To-do list:", but when pressing the edit button, I didn't know what to do confronted where to put it with all the code that appeared. Help? --SvenAERTS (talk) 5:26 pm, Today (UTC+1) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SvenAERTS (talk • contribs) 16:30, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Elvie Hill

Hi WP:FASHION contributors, the following article popped up on my Google News results because of the "Wikipedia" keyword: [3] - it contains the line "I jumped onto the computer to see who this Elvie Hill was. With no Wikipedia reference to her, I was astounded that this lady was so unknown today if the quality of her couture had been so highly regarded,” - I figure this WikiProject may be able to help! -- Chuq (talk) 13:49, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Looking for a WP:FAC co-nominator

I am looking for a WP:FAC co-nominator for Emily Ratajkowski. I am hoping that with one last push I can get it to FA level in time to pursue a WP:TFA for her 25th birthday on June 7. I think I need to nominate it by the end of the week to have a chance at promotion in time. However, I need a co-nom because I can only have one solo nomination at a time.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:07, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

"button nose"

We don't seem to have an article on the look of button noses, but we have Button Nose about a cartoon. Shouldn't the beauty topic be covered somewhere? -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 06:52, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Style Code Live

Would anyone be willing to start a new article about Amazon.com's new live-streaming fashion and shopping show that premiered yesterday? It's called Style Code Live. Here is The Washington Post's review, and it's gotten quite a bit of international press. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:47, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

"dad bod"

Dad bod has been nominated for deletion. Should this beauty topic receive an article, instead of redirecting to Jimmy Fallon's Tonight Show? -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 06:23, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

PR

Lady Gaga is currently up for a peer review. See Wikipedia:Peer review/Lady Gaga/archive4. Snuggums (talk / edits) 03:54, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

runway modelling

I think that anyone who walks at one of the Big Four Fashion Weeks has had lots of runway experience. However, the press often announces models who are making their runway debuts. I am not sure what this means or how I should word things on WP. Could someone look at Emily Ratajkowski and make sure I have described her NYFW and Paris FW debuts correctly. Is it possible that she has never walked a runway before. Also, feel free to get involved in Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Emily Ratajkowski/archive3.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:07, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

carncross umbrella

Alan Carncross has nearly five-thousand inventions, patents, copyrights and never been thought about before, ideas. From the first Small Folding Umbrella, which was made from Strong Lightweight Duralumin - which her Majesty The Queen had. - Also patented Stiletto-Heels - Also 'Safety-Catches for Jewelry' and 'Magneto-Striction Coils' Leading To Hospitals-Ultra-Scans etc etc etc etc All came from Alan - merely altering a 'Battered Old Camera', which became a "Photon Catching Camera". That Old Camera was a 'Spring-Wound-Movie Camera' from the 1920's. It cost only £5. It helped to create all those nearly 5,000 inventions -- from captured, entirely-free, "Photon-Intelligence Insights". Four German Computers, then split ordinary entirely-free-light into separate Rainbow-frequencies, which could be individually removed, to reveal, probably never been seen before, "intelligent-Photon- frequencies".

Intelligence frequencies can be modified with what Alan (for many decades) has called "Future-Time" - instead of using the usual "Past-Time" which Schools unfortunately constantly teach - - Those Photons and the information they accidentally (or purposely carry ) are instantly entering human brains,. Accidental Mentally Conditioned Photons, are probably the reason, why many inventors (like Alan) say that they simply found the idea in their head without any previous conscious thoughts about their new invention or idea they have had. near Five-Thousand, easy never been though about before ideas should prove that Photon proposition.

After all. Our Ancient Uneducated Ancestors Lived In Damp Caves or on Stonehenge. They had to start a mental progression to our present modern world. THEY ONLY HAD LIGHT ---- THEY DIDN'T HAVE SCHOOLS, INSTRUCTIONS, BOOKS, OR UNIVERSITIES ALAN CARNCROSS is STILL INVENTING FROM BETWEEN 3-0 am AND 5-0 a-m every morning even when now fast approaching a 100 years old. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.48.209.220 (talk) 09:05, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

No WP:FA models?

I am just realizing that this project has not gotten any models promoted to WP:FA (based on Category:FA-Class fashion articles). Please consider stopping by to comment at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Emily Ratajkowski/archive3.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:36, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

The following WP:FA articles have the term model in the WP:LEAD: Kirsten Dunst, Emma Watson and Deepika Padukone. Why are they not tagged by this project? Also, isn't Priyanka Chopra a model of sorts?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:54, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
- At Wikipedia_talk:Featured_article_candidates#No_WP:FA_models.3F, I have also been directed to Marilyn Monroe, which gives me more stuff to think about.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:35, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Coverographies

At Chiara_Ferragni#Modelling_covers, I started a coverography. I may do a similar table for several of the other models whose pages I edit. I would like some feedback on the format.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:43, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Starting a CotM?

I've started a discussion on WikiProject Fashion/Collaboration of the Month's talk page about possibly starting a Collaboration of the Month for this WikiProject. Please chime in there if you're interested! Chickadee46 (talk) 03:50, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

André Laug (company)

I am not an expert of deletion procedures on enwiki, but is this article after a little wikification not so bad? I left a message in Talk:André Laug (company). I am trying to help a newbie, I think the core of the work is ok. Any advice? Thank you.--Alexmar983 (talk) 14:33, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Alexmar983! I think it could be rescued. The speedy criteria doesn't seem appropriate to me. If anything, bits do read like strange automated translation. It has potential to be a decent article, and I think the subject is absolutely notable. I do have to ask why it is not at André Laug though, doesn't seem like it needs disambiguating.... Mabalu (talk) 15:05, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Mabalu I wanted to fix the title but I try to avoid to move article under deletion, on some wikipedias it is better not to do so. And of course i had more important issues. If you think you know the most correct one, please move it.--Alexmar983 (talk) 15:09, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

I'll keep an eye on it and see if the deletion request goes through, which I don't think it will. Then we can think about moving and fixing. Mabalu (talk) 15:20, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

ok. I have to go to sleep because I live in China, whatever I can do, it would be tomorrow. I mainly write article of scientists on enwiki, fashion is not my cup of tea. I was just sorry for the newbie, that's it.--Alexmar983 (talk) 15:27, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Question about the notability of the new cosmetics company Milk

See Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(organizations_and_companies)#Does_Age_Exclude_Notability.3F; please join. thx Jytdog (talk) 17:25, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Standards for articles of Category:Individual dresses

Since the only one that I have attempted to create has een redirected, can someone remind me of what the standards are for articles to be created for Category:Individual dresses. I am thinking about Emily Ratajkowski's August 2011 dress, which got the following coverage:

I am not sure what is routine red carpet coverage and what is encyclopedic.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:58, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Since I don't know who to alert, I am pinging discussants from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blue dress of Meagan Good, which was my only prior experience in this subject matter. @Mabalu, Tokyogirl79, Crisco 1492, DGG, and Gene93k: --TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:50, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
- Note that this is related to an issue I have also requested opinions by @FunkyCanute and GRuban:--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:50, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

For examples of what is needed , see Elizabeth Hurley's black Versace dress (I disagree with a recent title change from Black Versace dress of Elizabeth Hurley --the emphasis should be on the dress or Jennifer Lopez's green Versace dress (again, I think the title should be Green Versace dress of Jennifer Lopez. These two articles show extensive discussion of the dress itself. The references above are essentially just photographs , with at most a mere comment about how impressive the dress is. DGG ( talk ) 02:44, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

DGG, It seems to me that what would help is a redux or two, some mentions in books over time, and for this to be one of David Koma's most enduring creations. I think this is closer than the other one because of the year end recognitions. In other words, this one may just need time. Can you tell me if [hollywoodlife.com/2015/08/11/emily-ratajkowski-we-are-your-friends-premiere-dress-london/ this type of commentary] would be helpful to making it notable now if that were a WP:RS (which I don't think it is).--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:23, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

DGG, the backstory behind this significance has a lot of encyclopedic interest. 1.) This was the European premiere on the press tour of her first leading role, 2.) multiple citations above mention that this dress marked her ascension as a fashion star, 3.) The following month she made her runway debut at New York Fashion Week, 4.) At the end of the year Vogue Italia listed her in its best dressed with this dress pictured, 5.) At the end of the year Vogue listed her atop its new breakout beauty stars, 6.) At the end of the year this was selected among the fashion moments of the year by the Evening Standard with this dress depicted. This is more than just "The dress was impressive"--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:47, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Personally, I would consider the information and referencing about the dress to be important, and the back story relatively insignificant from the point of view of an article about a dress in encyclopedia. The hollywood.com story is a usable start. DGG ( talk ) 15:34, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

DGG, Are you saying with that article as the backbone, I can start an article.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:04, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

I would wait until I had at least one or two other similarly strong articles. DGG ( talk ) 04:39, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

DGG, FYI, I have started cobbling together the page at User:TonyTheTiger/sandbox/Emily Ratajkowski's blue Koma dress. I think that The Daily Telegraph had a good article. I will see what else I can find. Although I have seen a British Vogue article with 10 best dressed photos (not including Ratajkowski), I have heard that there was a December 2015 edition with 63 best dressed selections for the year. I am going to run this down and see if she was included. Note that in this article I mentioned the other outfit that she wore on August 11 to eliminate any confusion. For that week, the majority of places that selected her best dressed for the week showed a picture of that dress. Should I also mention other outlets that named her best dressed that week and depicted other outfits? I could put together a paragraph of other supporting outfits for her best dressed week performance.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:03, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Responding to ping: unfortunately I know nothing about dresses. Fortunately DGG seems to. I bow to his expertise. (Given the topic, that should probably be curtsey.) --GRuban (talk) 14:16, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Hey - I'm late to the party, but I have mixed feelings about these individual dress articles - (although I strongly agree with criticism of recent article moves - the person who moved them did NOT get consensus or even ask anyone before going ahead and doing so). Anyway, I am inclined to think that we should be very strict about such articles - there should be significant commentary and coverage on the individual dress, not solely mentions in general overviews of what's being worn on the red carpet. The Versace dresses of Jennifer Lopez and Elizabeth Hurley are perfect examples of this, as they have received so much attention and consideration. You should have at least three rock-solid sources that specifically discuss and analyse the garment in depth, before going ahead and creating an article on it.

I would also argue that if the content of an article can be condensed into two or three sentences, or a paragraph, then it is probably better off in a general article on that year's red carpet fashions (I have fallen behind on these...); or as a section in the designer's or wearer's article, even if there are sufficent good quality sources to make it a candidate for a standalone article. We need to make sure that such articles are incredibly solid and well-covered. I think this is a very relevant AFD for an article that really pushed the boundaries of how much coverage was sufficient to qualify a standalone article. Mabalu (talk) 16:10, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I'd have voted merge there, if I'd seen it. The category was really created for significant historic items of costume, mostly in museums, and often with unknown owners (or alternatively royal wedding dresses etc). Runway dresses should normally be merged - we already have too many imo - and the standards for stand-alone articles are probably too lax already. Johnbod (talk) 16:35, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

If there had been a SINGLE valid merge option, then I would have voted merge as well - but the problem was that there were three equally strong, valid places to which the Rebecca Twigley dress could have been merged, but at the expense of overwhelming all three articles with undue bias. So it was a really thorny issue. But yes, having read the drafted article on Emily Ratajkowski's dress, I don't think there is sufficient depth of coverage to support a standalone article for this particular dress. Lots of coverage, but it seems to mainly be tabloid type/Top 10 type coverage, or passing mentions of the dress's role in making her famous, rather than focused discussion of the dress itself. I think it is another borderline case - I like a good influential frock but I also question the need for this standalone article at this point in time. I would want to revisit it in a couple of year's time at the very least and see whether anyone is still discussing it in depth then (as turned out to be the case with the Twigley frock). It's currently good enough for several sentences's worth of commentary in Emily Ratajkowski and the designer's page, but to me, I don't feel it is really a valid standalone article option yet, if it ever will be. Mabalu (talk) 19:36, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Agree with everyone here that this does not seem to be a notable dress. Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:43, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

DGG, Mabalu, Johnbod, Calliopejen1, and GRuban: Thanks for commenting. I am going to leave the dress at User:TonyTheTiger/sandbox/Emily Ratajkowski's blue Koma dress. The only other thing I can do for the article in the near future is determine whether it was in the December 2015 British Vogue print edition (if anyone has access to that let me know) best dressed list. I don't think we can establish whether this is an enduring creation less than a year later, but it does have some of the elements of such. I'll be watching to see if this is included in fashion exhibitions and/or museum collections, becomes an enduring Koma creation, notable Ratajkowski dress, whether others wear the dress at important occasions and whether the dress is topical in the press in the future.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:51, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Barbara Franchin nominated for deletion

The article Barbara Franchin about the Italian scout for fashion designers, has been nominated for deletion. Please visit the the deletion discussion for more details. Ottawahitech (talk) 23:59, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

CotM

I've boldly put Jacket in for the July 2016 CotM. It's Top-importance, Start-class, and requested on the to-do list. Chickadee46 (talk|contribs) 20:50, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Clothing industry vs garment industry

Question from a category obsessed user here. Why do these two separate categories exist Category:Garment industry and Category:Clothing industry, when the article says, they are the same? I understand the difference between textile industry and clothing industry, the latter is the parent concept of the former, but why two categories when their titles are synonyms? I call the creator of Category:Clothing industry, which was only created some months ago, compared to the 10 year old Category:Garment industry. @Kku:. CN1 (talk) 17:12, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Best place for this is CFD. Daniel Case (talk) 18:12, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Might be the best official place. But I can already cautiously agree with CreativeName1's point of view here. Unless there are any proponents for a marked semantic difference between clothing and garment industry, maybe the less frequent Cat should be replaced by a REDIRECT to the other... -- Kku 12:06, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Should we propose at CFD to merge the content of Category:Clothing industry into Category:Garment industry, but rename it into Category:Clothing industry because the term is used more often? CN1 (talk) 16:06, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Yes. Daniel Case (talk) 17:05, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

I did so right now, if anyone wants to object or comment, you can find the proposal at the page for this day. CN1 (talk) 14:51, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

I commented with a mixed response because I object in part and support in part. I will duplicate my response here: "I agree that a merger of the two categories makes sense. However, I disagree with the idea of renaming it 'Clothing industry' or the underlying reasoning that the term is "used more often", because I believe that to be incorrect. People in the garment industry call it the garment industry. It may be an antiquated or less used term by the general public, but that is not the point. People in the industry also use the term haberdasher, milliner, etc. I also think the categories themselves support this. As is stated, the category clothing industry was only started some months ago, and garment industry category is 10 years old. The clothing industry category only has 3 subcategories and 7 pages, whereas garment industry has 8 subcategories and 41 pages."Centerone (talk) 15:26, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

I have to agree with Centerone's very reasonable and well thought out assessment. While "clothing" is indeed more colloquial, the garment industry is more technically accurate from a terminology perspective. Mabalu (talk) 15:36, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

FAR

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Media upload of images from Museum Catharijneconvent

Dear project-members,

I would like to draw your attention to a media upload that may be of relevance to your project:

Museum Catharijneconvent in Utrecht, The Netherlands, holds an important collection of Christian religious textiles and clothing from northern Europe, ranging in date from the medieval to modern periods. The museum has recently donated a collection of approximately 600 high-resolution images of these textiles to Wikimedia Commons. This donation is a follow-up to an older donation of some 2400 images of other objects and paintings in their collection.

Kind regards, --AWossink (talk) 11:32, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Beauty Pageant contestants ==

This discussion related to beauty pageant winners is potential of interest to people from this project. Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Beauty_Pageants#RFC_on_creation_of_consensus_standard John Pack Lambert (talk) 06:34, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Madame Serini

Hi everybody, I'm looking informations for an article on italian wikipedia: she was an italian designer emigrated in Australia 60-70 years ago, his father was Antonio Marietti, a sculptor, his brother Antonio Jr. an italian soccer player then turned actor: her real name was Irridenta Itala, do you have something about her and her family, please? --2.226.12.134 (talk) 13:59, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

La Perla

A new version of the La Perla (clothing) article has been uploaded in my userspace: User:Giulia H2/La Perla/New. I think this version is much improved when compared to the current one, however I cannot edit the page directly due to a conflict of interest. Please consider joining the discussion at Talk:La Perla (clothing)#New version. Giulia H2 (talk) 14:51, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

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TFD notice

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I have created a list of missing topics about fashion - Skysmith (talk) 13:49, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Article expansion - Stole (shawl)

Could members of this project please attend to the stole article before it hits the homepage? Schwede 66 08:03, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

I merged that stub article to shawl. Stole (shawl) has been unsourced since 2009, untouched since 2015, and is part of a WP:DYK so about to get more traffic than it can handle. Anyone might revive it with some work but for now a redirect seems best. Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:59, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

List of headgear

Hey fashion folks! I'm used to counter-vandalism on WP but still a novice at restructuring articles. I stumbled across List of headgear and the structure of the page seemed odd. I understand that a standard textual list wouldn't be appropriate for this type of content, but the gallery felt a bit overwhelming. Also, the method in which the hats were grouped felt a bit strange, and the article is awfully large, maybe a couple splits are in order? Anywho, I'm all about WP:SOFIXIT but before I start tearing it apart, I kinda wanted to get some feedback from y'all first, as I'm woefully inept at fashion ^_^ Your feedback is more than appreciated! Drewmutt (talk) 06:51, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Expansion of cosmetology and beauty education articles

Hello friends. After researching and publishing the article on cosmetology luminary Leo Passage, I've gone down that rabbit hole and want to publish more articles in the field. There are some famous hairdressers out there and some who've started prominent businesses (like American Crew and Aquage and the like) in addition to their award-winning hairstyling.

Any tips on making people in this fledgeling field (in WP anyway) seem "notable"? Not everyone can be Vidal Sassoon. I'm curious about how to essentially "open new territory" in the fashion sector of WP. Thank you in advance. Chicagoese (talk) 22:41, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Chicagoese I do not recommend trying to make articles for people who do not pass WP:N. In short, this has failed several hundred thousand times and there is no community awareness of any prominent success story.

Especially until you find your way around wiki I encourage you to spend your time editing by the rules. Once you know the rules, then consider whether you want to risk loss of your time by advancing to the limits. There are a lot of designers who are notable who could be covered. Instead of starting with names and seeking journalism, start with good publications and see what names are there. Blue Rasberry (talk) 00:48, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

@Bluerasberry: Lane, I think what we owe this editor is a discussion of what, exactly, makes a cosmetologist notable within the field. I know nothing about this. What periodicals or websites that matter would count for assessing instances of non-trivial coverage? Would celebrity clients count (something which would tend to lead to that coverage anyway)? Would having one's own name on a brand help? Are there awards given to cosmetologists that would be of importance to people in the field? Daniel Case (talk) 07:42, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

@Daniel Case and Chicagoese: Yes, please excuse me if I was not open enough. The baseline expectation for establishing notability is third party publications. Starting with that, lots of material would be accepted.

I am not prepared to say that any of the things mentioned by Daniel count if they cannot be documented in third-party publications. That is, if the only source of this information is self-published, then I would not be ready to say that any of these establish notability. One of the seemingly most respected awards, Academy Award for Best Makeup and Hairstyling, is almost absent from any identified media coverage. With that being one of the best-funded and most prominent awards and still getting less attention, then I can only expect that this sector of journalism will be challenging. I would talk anyone through on the options but again, I have great hesitation to let the conversation go in any direction except trying to identify some published third-party sources. Blue Rasberry (talk) 12:55, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you both! Yes, the Academy Awards example is kind of what I'm implying. Notable in field does not always equal notable in journalism. I have access to a lot trade publications, with a lot of individuals rising to the surface, but those have been looked at less credibly than, say, the Wall Street Journal... Chicagoese (talk) 14:33, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Chicagoese Trade journals and industry publications are great, if they hire independent journalists. Bias for the industry is fine, and we even tolerate bias for advertisers in trade journals, but what we really wish to avoid is accepting content which is overly commissioned by an organization or individual to promote themselves. If a trade journal employed their own staff writers and covered industry events, then fine. If a trade journal is publishing press releases provided by companies and seems so defenseless as to have no journalistic control, then we pass on that.

No one expects highly specific industry sectors to all find a place in popular general interest publications, and in wiki, we do treat some trade journals on equal standing as WSJ or any other source. High school newspapers have more journalistic integrity than press releases, so as long as there is some respect for journalism and independent writing, share what you have. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:06, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

The Fashion Institute of Technology - International Women's Day Wikipedia Edit-a-thon

I am inviting you to participate in the Fashion Institute of Technology's second annual International Women's Day Wikipedia Edit-a-thon, which is an Art+Feminism event. If you are in the NY Metro area, please register and I will make sure you have a pass to enter the building. If you wish to participate remotely, please register and leave me a message on my talk page. --Librarianhelen (talk) 19:08, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Requesting thoughts on merge of American Look (fashion movement) with Sportswear (fashion)

If anyone is around, I would really appreciate thoughts on this merger proposal, as I have a conflict of interest so would appreciate third party opinions. Mabalu (talk) 09:51, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Translating Bottega Veneta

First and foremost, I have a paid COI in regards to BV (see my userpage). Secondly, please forgive me if this is an inappropriate place to ask, but I'm working on getting the English article content translated for a number of different languages and was curious if any members of WP:Fashion might be able to help out. I've asked around at WP:Translation and a few other places, but without any real progress. Any help would be appreciated!--FacultiesIntact (talk) 00:50, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Playsuit vs. Romper

A question on the difference between the 2 on the reference desk. --Rinaku (t · c) 15:02, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

It has been suggested that Romper suit be merged with Playsuit (ladies' clothing). (Discuss) --Rinaku (t · c) 20:05, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Free accounts for Berg Fashion Library (Bloomsbury) now available

Hi all, just wanted to let you know that you can now sign up for free access to the Berg Fashion Library (from Bloomsbury) through The Wikipedia Library! And a reminder that recommendations for databases we don't have available yet are welcomed. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 19:46, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

I have applied for this. If I am successful I will of course make myself available to look stuff up for other editors. Daniel Case (talk) 21:48, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Proposal to merge Hosiery into Hose (clothing) 13 May 2017

It has been suggested that Hosiery be merged with Hose (clothing). (Discuss) —A L T E R C A R I ✍ 04:01, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

I would greatly appreciate any comments on this proposal (made on the thirteenth). It has none so far. I will leave it another week before making the change.

—A L T E R C A R I ✍ 04:01, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Franzi help

Hi, I have written Franzi page, but i see some issues. I want to understand what can i do :) For example i say that Franzi is one of the oldest italian brand in the luxury leather goods, because it was founded in 1864 and I know that Prada is from 1913, Gucci is fom 1921, Fontana milano is from 1915, Fendi is from 1925, Ferragamo is from 1927, Bottega Veneta is from 1966.. I know there are no sources that say the cronological order of the foundation of all the italian company to mention as a source, but it is an obvious deduction from the facts. Even more if we think that Guccio Gucci itself was an employee of Franzi. But since I'm new at wikipedia i want to understand if I went wrong using this deduction system and if yes, what can i do to do the things in the right way. A true thanks :) --Carlo ch (talk) 14:15, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Carlo ch, I'd say that while that sort of thing (deduced facts of which the premises can be sourced, but not the conclusion) is not best practice, it may be the best thing to do in a particular scenario where the fact is noteworthy, uncontroversial and there is no way to find a source for the fact itself. It might be useful to use a sourced footnote to explain how you came to that conclusion, otherwise readers and other editors might not understand the relevance of your references. (Use Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).

It's hard to tell if this company has received "significant coverage" from "reliable sources" that are "independent" of the subject, as such coverage is likely in newspapers and other material that is either not online or paywalled, if it exists at all.

Does anyone recognize this company's name? Does anyone know enough about the company to say "yeah, the company is notable, but it will take a trip to a library or a subscription to an online source to find good sources?"

If the answer is "no" then I'll probably send it to AFD.

References

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Shudu Gram

Hello, I recently made an article for the controversial digital model “Shudu Gram”

Any help would be appreciated! Thank you. Thriley (talk) 14:32, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Boot socks

This is a cute stub, but I'm not sure it's notable. It needs to be cleaned up or sent to WP:AfD. Bearian (talk) 02:11, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Call for comments on the Project: Wiki meets Sustainable Fashion

Hello, we are PulloJesicaNoemi and Irinarosarina. We are presenting a Grant, Wiki meets Sustainable Fashion. We are a group of Latin women interested in sustainable fashion, and our goal is to bring in and train 360 female volunteers to edit pre-existing articles and to create articles related to this subject. If you could please check out our project here and leave your comments, it would be greatly appreciated!

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Gendered associations of pink and blue

Newly released stub article Gendered associations of pink and blue needs your help in expanding it. Can you lend a hand? Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 20:01, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Sybarite Jewellery

Hello, Hoary, I've updated https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sybarite_Jewellery remaining only facts and added awards and exhibitions sections - could you please re-check it? Ostashevskiy (talk) 10:30, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Face patches (17th century England)

I have just uploaded images of the above painting. Do we have anything on the face patches worn by the sitters?

References

^ Capon, Alex (28 June 2021). "Pick of the week: £220,000 for enigmatic faces of the Interregnum". Antiques Trade Gazette. Retrieved 4 July 2021.

-- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:54, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Beauty mark seems the best. Johnbod (talk) 13:15, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Your feedback appreciated at Talk:Anti-aging cream

It has been proposed that Anti-aging supplements be merged into Anti-aging cream. Your feedback would be appreciated at Talk:Anti-aging cream#Merge proposal. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 00:40, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Drafts

Listing these drafts here for those interested:

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FAR for shoe polish

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Amsterdam Rainbow Dress

New stub: Amsterdam Rainbow Dress. I'm sure the dress has been displayed in other cities and modeled by other notable people, if you're aware of more to add. Happy editing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:50, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Indie Sleaze

I recently created an article for Indie Sleaze which has been much in the news lately. Any help would be appreciated. Thriley (talk) 01:43, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Contribution to WikiProject Fashion

I am new to Wikipedia and I was inquiring on how I can join this topic or as a contributor KipereEm (talk) 12:32, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

KipereEm Hi! Thanks for your interest in helping out :) I've sent some links to you through your talk page that might be helpful. In terms of joining as a contributor, all you need to do is edit in relevant articles. Are there any topics within fashion where you have a particular interest? A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 12:55, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

A._C._Santacruz Hey! I saw the links, thanks alot. I am interested in Shoes especially male shoes since am male. And I will be pinging you. KipereEm (talk) 11:05, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Oxford shoe is marked as lacking citations for verification since 2013, meaning it lacks reliable sources to back the claims made on the article. Would this be an article that interests you? A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 11:13, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

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Coastal Grandmother

I recently created an article for Coastal Grandmother. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you! Thriley (talk) 21:34, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Daphne Guinness updates

Back in April, I proposed a few updates to improve the quality of the Daphne Guinness article here, and since the Request Edits Queue seems to be stalled I’m hoping an independent editor here might be willing to have a look at the proposed updates. (I can’t implement them myself since I have a conflict of interest and am aware that would be a violation of Wikipedia policy.) Could someone in this WikiProject please take a look at these requests? Thanks. YhSA99b3tTnCnLdr (talk) 18:58, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

AfD notice

AfD for fashion model Jen Dawson which needs more attention. QuietHere (talk) 04:39, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Breast binding#Requested move 2 November 2022

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Breast binding#Requested move 2 November 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 12:12, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I got notified from this page. --Bastique ^{☎ call me!} 04:27, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

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Lotta Volkova

I recently created an article for Lotta Volkova. Any help would be appreciated. Thriley (talk) 23:20, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tri-Ess

Noting Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tri-Ess here, as the nom claims that the organization, which represents cross-dressers, is transphobic. Comments would be appreciated. Historyday01 (talk) 02:57, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

"Military style" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Military style has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 8 § Military style until a consensus is reached. 64.229.90.172 (talk) 03:29, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

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Practice head/hairdresser training heads

Hi there,

I created d:Q117162798 : practice head (with barber mannequin head or barber head as aliases) and commons:Category:Practice heads. It doesn't have any wikipedia article. Then I found out the doublet commons:Category:Hairdresser training heads. These categories have to be merged. English is not my first language, how should I name the category on Commons? Thanks! Astirmays (talk) 19:59, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

I chose "Hairdresser training heads". Astirmays (talk) 20:21, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, looks good Gryllida (talk, e-mail) 23:27, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Does Draft:M-52 Flak Jacket meet notability criteria

Is there a more specific page about notability criteria for this than WP:Notability - draft written by Halebraedonf - does it meet notability criteria? - (I am a new draft reviewer and this is not my strong topic area) Thanks Gryllida (talk, e-mail) 23:27, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Photos from fashion exhibit

The Denver Art Museum recently held an exhibit on the fashion house of Dior and I managed to take several good quality images of the dresses featured in the exhibit. I was wondering if images from such an exhibit can be used on Wikipedia freely? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpiritedMichelle (talk • contribs) 2019-02-17T02:04:21 (UTC)

@SpiritedMichelle: Thank you for asking. I don't see why not; we've had this conversation before.

Generally, in the U.S., clothing cannot be copyrighted as it is a useful article. That was a blanket general rule that applied to all aspects of clothing until the U.S. Supreme Court decided Star Athletica, LLC v. Varsity Brands, Inc. a couple of years ago, in which it held that purely aesthetic aspects of clothing can be copyrighted as long as their function can be found to be entirely separate from the functions that make clothing useful and can be art separate from the clothing it's on.

The EU enacted copyright protection for fashion a few years ago but not many manufacturers have taken the time to register their clothing.

Of course, having read this far, you'll feel you've wasted your time since I'm about to tell you that this doesn't matter. Assuming the Dior dresses you photographed are old enough, like from the last century, they predate any copyright protection and thus photos of them would be free images as long as you, the photographer, publish them that way (which of course you would have to at Commons). Daniel Case (talk) 00:42, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for your elaborate reply. (Please note the message is from 2019; the today change was only the addition of the signature.) Gryllida (talk, e-mail) 11:56, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Well, it's here for anyone else to look at ... Daniel Case (talk) 17:29, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Reg Hi Life Exhibition

Hi, I have created a page for Hi Life Exhibition, it is a popular exhibitions company that organizes fashion exhibitions across India. Please have a look and share your thoughts. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hi_Life_Exhibition JoBosc (talk) 10:22, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Crakow#Requested move 28 June 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Crakow#Requested move 28 June 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 14:31, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Catherine de' Medici

Hiya, fashionist(o|a|xe)s. There's a small mystery at the Catherine de' Medici article.

The internet as a whole has absolutely fantastic blog entries (sample) about how this cuttingly intelligent but physically still-a-frickin'-14-year-old girl accidentally opened the part of Pandora's box that had been holding back high heels while trying to impress her older royal never-met-before husband-to-be and to intimidate his known-to-be-gorgeous mistress(es). Somehow that is what stuck from the era—not the foot-long pointed toes or foot-wide flippers—and, after spending an amusing interlude causing royalist cavalrymen to fall over a lot, became the women's footwear we all know and loave today.

Thing is, our Catherine de' Medici article doesn't mention her involvement in popularizing heels at all. Not in the (lengthy) article. Not anywhere in the (lengthy) talk page with no archives. I assume that means there's some solid reason to doubt the current internet lore but it's widespread enough across blogs, newspaper articles, and some histories of footwear and fashion that it's actually worth including a paragraph in the article even if it's wrong just to clearly debunk it. Anyone here know what's going on with that? Kindly respond at the talk page itself since I'll also crosspost this request to WPFRANCE and WPWOMENSHISTORY. — LlywelynII 13:02, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Nicky Hilton Rothschild#Requested move 23 June 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Nicky Hilton Rothschild#Requested move 23 June 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 12:43, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

1950's UK Vogue?

Audrey Fildes, actress, is sadly lacking in sources and is at AfD. A family member says she was on the cover of UK Vogue in the 1950s. She's not in List of British Vogue cover models, but that's very gappy. I have found this which shows she was a model in the Sept 1950 edition. Can anyone check whether she was that Sept 1950 cover, or another cover, or find anything else useful to improve the article? I thought this project was the place to ask, as someone here may have a complete set of Vogue on their shelves or their hard drive. Thanks for any help. PamD 12:48, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Individual shoes?

Are there any pages on individual pairs of shoes besides Ruby Slippers? I'm not aware of any, just wondering if there are to see if an "individual pairs of shoes" category could be made. Remainsuncertain (talk) 04:42, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

There's Giant Shoes of Marikina, although of course no one's actually going to wear those. But, looking over the subcats and articles in Category:Individual garments, I think you could easily justify writing such articles if you could find enough reliable sourcing to meet the notability criteria. Daniel Case (talk) 00:52, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

I think those count! If I can find any more, or if I write an article for any, I'll make a category. Remainsuncertain (talk) 03:28, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

I think we should follow usual practice & wait until we have at least four. I suspect fictional shoes may be easier. Johnbod (talk) 03:32, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Gotcha! Had three in my head as the rule of thumb for categories, for some reason. Thanks! Remainsuncertain (talk) 03:33, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Well the precise interpretation of WP:SMALLCAT is remarkably contentious, with a nasty recent Arbcom case, but 4 is a fairly safe number I think. I added Ruby Slippers to Category:Individual garments, so we're at 2 for now. Johnbod (talk) 03:40, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

I usually go with three. Daniel Case (talk) 04:34, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Separate articles for designer and brand?

Hello, I am fairly new to creating fashion articles but have noticed a few holes I have been trying to fill namely Emily Adams Bode Aujla, Karu Research, Kartik Kumra, and Barragán. I noticed there is a page for Bode but not its founder and decided to start drafts for Karu Research and its designer. I am of the opinion that there should be two separate archives, but is this the common feeling on wikipedia? Any tips for distinguishing between the designer and their brand?

Also, I keep bumping up against paywalls..any pointers on how to deal with this? Chainsawpunk (talk) 02:16, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

I totally support this - an article on Emily Adams Bode Aujla was on my to-do list!

For paywalls, I usually put the link into The Wayback Machine or open an incognito tab. Adding a slash to the end of the url used to work most of the time, but hardly does anymore. None of these are foolproof, unforch - would love more tips! Remainsuncertain (talk) 03:28, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! I found a website that you can enter a url and for most websites I used it was working, I got a lot of the wedding info for her personal life section that was behind a vogue paywall. I think I just googled getting through paywall and saw a link that worked.

I'm glad you were thinking the same for a bio for her – If you see anything I'm missing and you have space on your plate let me know what I can tweak Chainsawpunk (talk) 18:38, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Afro-textured hair#Requested move 16 September 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Afro-textured hair#Requested move 16 September 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky (talk) 15:52, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

G-III request

Hello, hello, this is Cody from G-III. I posted a request on the G-III Talk page about updating the Brands section, which is badly out of date. I haven't gotten any responses there, so I'm hoping someone here can take a look. Any feedback would be welcome! Thanks. G-III Cody (talk) 21:06, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello, hello, this is Cody again from G-III. I posted two new requests on the G-III Talk page about adding a logo and an Operations section, respectively. I would love to get feedback from editors involved with this Wiki project. Thanks. G-III Cody (talk) 20:49, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Can someone re-assess Lip balm?

Lip balm is currently rated Stub. It obviously isn't a stub, but I'm not familiar enough with fashion/beauty to assess it as Start/C/etc. myself.

Thank you! QuietCicada (talk) 23:50, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

It was actually rated start. I have bumped it up to C.

And I wonder what brought you here to ask this, as it's not on this project's worklist and I wouldn't consider it a fashion or beauty product. Daniel Case (talk) 04:53, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Sustainable fashion article needs an overhaul

I am starting to rework the article on Sustainable fashion. This is an important topic, but it is written like an essay, a lot of the sourcing is really poor and I've spotted plagiarism. If anyone else is interested please have a go as well.. Arcahaeoindris (talk) 17:20, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Looking to replace promotional content in Canada Goose article

Hello! I'm a Canada Goose employee working as a COI editor to improve the company's article. Over on the CG Talk page, I'm asking independent editors to take a look at a new Products section I've drafted. I put this draft together because, strangely, there aren't a lot of details in the article about the actual goods that Canada Goose manufactures and sells. I'm proposing that this new Products section replace an existing Marketing one that's light on substance and contains quite a bit of material that's written like an advertisement, as opposed to an encyclopedia entry.

If the above interests anybody at this WikiProject, please use this link to view my Talk page post. I know section draft reviews are a time- and effort-intensive process, and that Wikipedia is a community of volunteers, so if there's anything I can do to make the review process a little smoother, ask away. Thank you! Canada Goose Isabella (talk) 18:04, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Kim Spradlin re-nominated for deletion

Link: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kim Spradlin (2nd nomination). George Ho (talk) 04:01, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Christian head covering#Requested move 5 January 2024

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Requested move at Talk:Tanning#Requested move 25 February 2024

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A possible source for some rather decent fashion drawings from c. 1915 into the 1920s

commons:Category:The Town Crier is a multi-year run of a Seattle magazine that had quite a few fashion ads. In the course of going through these for other reasons, I've cropped a few that really struck me into files of their own, but someone might find it worth "leafing through" the subcats for other illustrations worth the effort. A couple of examples:

Jmabel | Talk 22:58, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Best sources for United States fashion

Hello, another editor recently added a "Fashion" subsection to the United States article. This should likely exist there, but I'm not sure where to start for sources. Are there any recommendations for solid sources that give broad coverage of US fashion? Also, I hope it's not rude to ping you, Premeditated Chaos; I saw the project is not very active and was going ping the nominators of recent fashion Featured articles, but you seem to be the nominator for all of them. Regards, Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 16:31, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

I never object to being pinged :) Regretfully, I have to tell you that my interest in clothing and fashion is quite narrowly-focused - I like Alexander McQueen very much, I had a fixation on Inuit clothing for awhile, and I love that tuxedo dress, but my broader knowledge of fashion history is unfortunately limited. Fashion in the United States is far shorter than it should be, but offers a few sources and ideas. Vanity Fair, Vogue, Women's Wear Daily, are all high-quality sources for fashion, though not sure how much they get into broad strokes.

I can make some suggestions in terms of scope, but these are mainly my esoteric knowledge and not guaranteed to be comprehensive. This book might be helpful generally, apparently it's an accessible capsule history of various garments; written by an American so I imagine it's got American history. If there's anything you really have to mention, Preppy fashion and Ivy League (clothes) are top of the list - extremely, classically American (think Ralph Lauren, Tommy Hilfiger, Calvin Klein). Ametora might be a useful book for that (it's about how Japan fell in love with American traditional fashion). @Guerillero could maybe help out here, he likes that kind of thing. The Battle of Versailles Fashion Show was a fashion competition in the 70s that made the fashion world take American designers seriously (Oscar de la Renta, Stephen Burrows, Halston, Bill Blass, Anne Klein, and Donna Karan were the American team). Hip-hop fashion and sneakerhead culture are essentially American; Google suggests [4] and [5] as useful books for that. Dapper Dan is a big deal there. For historical fashion, this series looks useful. Western wear is another American invention. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:37, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Understandable, the tuxedo dress is amazing. And your advice is incredibly helpful. That's the direction I need to gather sources. Thanks, Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 23:41, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

I would point out that I like the fashion language of prep, workwear, and pre-1970 outdoor clothing. Think LL Bean Boyfriend. But, I digress into the nerdom that I rarely talk about on wikipedia.

And everything PMC gave you is mostly post-1920. I haven't read Tim Gunn's book, but it sounds like a good starting point. I don't have anything on hand, but summary style would mean that in 150 words max you need to talk about how the US went from British fashion to the melting pot of style that we see today. -- Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 11:42, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

[Capon-1] Capon, Alex (28 June 2021). "Pick of the week: £220,000 for enigmatic faces of the Interregnum". Antiques Trade Gazette. Retrieved 4 July 2021.

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