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Casualty count

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Gianluigi02, i believe the 14 taken to the hospital "in serious condition" were actually the ones showing no signs of life (i believe, in taiwan, they are considered to have suffered an "out-of-hospital cardiac arrest" or ohca) and were simply taken to the hospital so that they would be declared dead there. this source might better explain it. the 32 found dead at the scene were taken directly to the morgue, presumably because their condition was clearly incompatible with life. adding the 32 sent directly to the morgue with the 14 "in serious condition" gives the 46 reported deceased.

i don't know how the bbc determined that 79 had been sent to the hospital, but; i don't remember seeing the number reported elsewhere. dying (talk) 15:27, 14 October 2021 (UTC) [copyedited. dying (talk) 16:40, 23 October 2021 (UTC)][reply]

That's what I wrote: 32 people killed in the immediate aftermath of the fire, and 14 more who died at hospital due to their wounds. Gianluigi02 (talk) 16:09, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, now I have understood your speech better. All the victims died in the immediate aftermath. Thanks for clarifying. Gianluigi02 (talk) 16:11, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is possible that the number of causalities will increase once the building is fully searched. Notwithstanding, the numbers in the article are updated to be current as of today and I support the edit done by [[Gianluigi02]]. Jurisdicta (talk) 06:58, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 15 October 2021

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to 2021 Kaohsiung building fire Sceptre (talk) 00:34, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]



2021 Kaohsiung tower fire2021 Kaohsiung apartment fire – This is not a tower, which is defined by Wikipedia as "a building that is taller than wide", however this building isn't technically a tower. While it is also referred to as a tower by some sources listed in the references section, it is also specified as an apartment (and is also called simply a building in some). Regardless of its definition, "tower" is also more ambiguous than "apartment", which better-specifies what this building is. Waddles 🗩 🖉 05:18, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Also per Chongkian. GTNO6 (talk) 14:58, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Kao and Huang

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There is a lot more information about their involvement in the fire, can we get this added?36.232.53.195 (talk) 03:59, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's best to keep the speculation down, and cover the legal proceedings as described in reliable sources. What is currently listed in the English article matches its Chinese counterpart fairly well. Kuo and Huang were questioned, Kuo was granted bail. Vycl1994 (talk) 06:28, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Address

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This article should at least mention the street name that the building is located. Otherwise it is like "a fire somewhere in Asia". Charliestalnaker (talk) 22:14, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The infobox states Cheng Chung Cheng Building, No. 31, Fubei Road, Yancheng District, Kaohsiung, Taiwan as the location and it has a reference pointing to Taiwan News. So does this count as an address? --37.30.16.128 (talk) 22:18, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Green tickY resolved. Charliestalnaker (talk) 22:19, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistency between title and infobox title

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Hello, I just noticed that the title says "2021 Kaohsiung building fire" but the infobox title says "2021 Kaohsiung tower fire". I understand that this page recently got a page change and was wondering if this was kept on purpose. Thanks.

Sincerely,
Rafaelmanman (talk) 22:02, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Changed to be consistent, like it should be. Given how much people complained it wasn't a tower, I can't see people complaining about this change. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:41, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]