Talk:Beast (2022 Indian film)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 February 2022

Dear Sir, I want to make an edit to the above Wikipedia Page. It is semi protected. It has been more than 5 days since my account was created. Please Help. Jay KnowsIt (talk) 06:58, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

What do you want to do? Kailash29792 (talk) 07:47, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 11:15, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 April 2022

In the premise, it is stated that "After a shopping mall in Chennai is hijacked by terrorists who hold the visitors as hostages, Veera Raghavan, a spy also trapped in the mall, decides to save the hostages by eliminating them". In the end, it is stated that "to save the hostages by eliminating them". Of course, we know that Veera is going to eliminate the terrorists, but to others may seem that he would eliminate the hostages.

Here is my proposed premise statement:

After a shopping mall in Chennai is taken over by terrorists who hold the visitors as hostages, the trapped spy Veera Raghavan decides to rescue the visitors by eliminating the terrorists later veera raghavan dies by saving his lover. Justanaveragebiker (talk) 22:30, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

We must not copy the premise from other sources word-for-word; that borders on WP:COPYVIO Kailash29792 (talk) 07:28, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

 Partly done: Ambiguity of the pronoun is cleared following this edit by Kailash29792 -- Ab207 (talk) 13:56, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 April 2022

Remake of Hollywood movie Security — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.146.175.111 (talk) 00:59, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 April 2022

Beast released from mixed to positive reviews with praises towards Vijay's performance, cinematography, dark humour, action sequence, music and background score while criticism was aimed at the lack of depth in the storyline and screenplay 2001:D08:D3:3A9A:6419:59B6:E9FF:8ABD (talk) 06:20, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. MadGuy7023 (talk) 08:04, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Mixed vs Negative

Mixed is when few critics praise the movie with high rating and few critics show disappointment with low rating.

When all the reviews are on 2.5 and below, how can it be called mixed?

Please enlighten. MovieBuffIndia (talk) 06:43, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

What mad are you telling. It received positive reviews. 103.154.37.224 (talk) 06:50, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

So far more than 10 media reputed media outlets published with 2.5 rating and I have also updated the reception section with few of them. And there are others like Mirchi9, Telugu 360,India Glitz etc who gave less than 1.75 rating out of 5. Others please let us know if these are called positive reviews or negative reviews.

Also, Beast released in 5 languages, why not considering reviews from Telugu critics and Bollywood critics article?

Praising an actor for his performance is not positive review, the overall rating of the film determines whether it is positive or negative review. As far as Beast is concerned all critics are unanimously giving negative reviews only.

Similar scenario in Annaatthe film, where it was labelled negative reviews in the first line of critical reception section itself.

A source here for Beast also titled as "negative reviews" and inside description as "film is receiving mixed to negative responses from the critics as well as the fans.https://en.janbharattimes.com/entertainment/beast-box-office-collection-day-12022-04-13 |website=JanBharat Times |language=en-US}}</ref>

MovieBuffIndia (talk) 09:40, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Movie Received Negative Reviews Gvj23 (talk) 13:52, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Positive or mixed

Beaat should be receiving mixed to positive reviews, most of the reviews are quite positive and mixed 2001:D08:D3:3A9A:6419:59B6:E9FF:8ABD (talk) 07:12, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Please provide any suitable references. Kichawww (talk) 14:49, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 April 2022 (2)

change recieved negative reviews from critics to beast received mixed reviews from critics, who praised the performance of Vijay, cinematography, editing, CGI and Anirudh's music score and background music but criticised the plot, screenplay, direction, black comedy, lack of screen time for a few characters and the villains Waspkill (talk) 15:31, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:35, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Box Office Inflation.

From day 1 movie's inflation was pointed out by Box Office India.

A simple example, Times of India, Up to day 4 with ₹152 crore daily break up. https://m.timesofindia.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/news/beast-box-office-collection-day-4-vijay-starrer-earns-more-than-rs-150-crore/articleshow/90890141.cms On day 5 with ₹195 crore without any daily break up. https://m.timesofindia.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/box-office/beast-box-office-collection-day-5-vijays-pan-indian-release-inches-close-to-rs-200-crore-mark/articleshow/90904708.cms

Addition of ₹43 crore without any territory break up clearly indicates inflation.

Bollywood hungama article https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/box-office-special-features/beast-box-office-vijay-starrer-collects-26-million-usd-rs-198-58-cr-worldwide-box-office/ copied the figures from Deadline article https://deadline.com/2022/04/fantastic-beasts-sonic-kgf-yash-india-china-global-international-box-office-1235004648/ which themselves have mentioned as reaching out to producers for clarity. Also there is no daily break down or Overseas country breakdown. This again raises a question as none of the comscore published Overseas sources like USA, UK, Australia, Malaysia come anywhere close to $8.1 mn as per article.

Also India Herald said the numbers of Beast are fake and inflated, and they have pointed out earlier too. https://amp.indiaherald.com/Movies/Read/994495440/Vijay-Stardom-is-Completely-FAKE-Official-Global-ComScore-Report

Recently released movie Valimai figures was disputed because of no breakup and inflation. Please discuss MovieBuffIndia (talk) 10:46, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Read this article. Source from Pinkvilla clearly shows that film grossed near to ₹200 crore. Amulya Rajesh (talk) 11:33, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

The Indian Express article also shows ₹200 crore. Amulya Rajesh (talk) 11:42, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

220 cr Aman arvind wankhade (talk) 11:31, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

200 crore Sathyalingam (talk) 12:05, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Pinkvilla Jatinder Singh is non RS for Box Office. Refer ICTF, discussion. He is not used for Bollywood or Tollywood films too.

Example, As per BOI article on April 14, Beast broke valimai Day 1 record. During Valimai release, Annaatthe day 1 record was broken by Valimai stated by BOI and other reliable sources.

But Jatinder Singh on April 14 published an article with beast broke Vijay's Sarkar with than inflated figure of 38 crore.

The very next day Box Office India reported ₹38 crore is an inflated number and doesn't even come from the producers but its just fanboys or some nuisance factors. https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=6837

Boi has the history of 10+ years compared to Jatinder Singh who is writing just for two months in not a complete RS Pinkvilla.

During valimai itself it came into limelight that Jatinder Singh works for Vijay and purposely downplayed and now purposely inflating.

He sits in North and is not part of trade, he neither knows the Tamil language, nor the B, C centers.

MovieBuffIndia (talk) 12:09, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

According to Various sources, Beast has grossed 200 cr+ worldwide. Pranavsasane24 (talk) 12:10, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Bringing to the kind attention of Kailash29792 Tayi Arajakate Arjayay Ravensfire Sid95Q Fylindfotberserk Bollyjeff DaxServer as sources are providing heavily inflated figures and found to be fake when cross checked with their own daily figures. Shared with proofs MovieBuffIndia (talk) 12:41, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Go with Box Office India, not with Pinkvilla. Because BOI is like Box Office Mojo. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:44, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Can we go with Bollywood Hungama! Jomontgeorge (talk) 12:53, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

@Jomontgeorge: Yup - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:46, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Why can't you add box office in infobox? Jomontgeorge (talk) 13:51, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

@Jomontgeorge: Can't til the discussion is over. Also BH is considered generally reliable per WP:ICTF, but in this particular case more scrutiny is required since MovieBuffIndia has raised a valid concern regarding the similarity between BH and Deadline figures, the latter of which "reached out to producers directly for clarification". - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:02, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Box office India in today's article mentioned ₹92 cr nett from India. Normally for India nett gst average would be 13 or 14 percent. Even if we calculate maximum 15% GST (92*0.15=13.8)to make out gross value of entire 5 days in India comes to ₹105.8 crore (92+13.8). Where as other sources(BH, pinkvilla etc) are mentioning ₹135-137 crores in India. Which is an inflation of ₹30+ crore in just 5 days from domestic market.

Now TN value is also like that only. Boi - ₹65 nett (₹74 gross) Jatinder - ₹ 96 crore gross

Here also ₹22 crore difference of inflation.

https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=6851 MovieBuffIndia (talk) 14:42, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Hey for now just add the box office of the film from the source Times of India. Please don’t use any other sources. I m afraid it’s not going to be reliable. Theoder2055 (talk) 17:18, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Times of India source is the first source which came under scrutiny. There is no urgency here. Refer ICTF, Box Office India is very much reliable and gained trust over the years, unlike some media articles which publish one number today and change it next day as per their wish. MovieBuffIndia (talk) 17:32, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Ok fine, I think so this much content can be finalized from this film’s page and we can close the discussion. Theoder2055 (talk) 17:42, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Times of India initially said Tamil Nadu opening day as 40 crore. That time they didn't mention any nett figure. Article was first mentioning with "38 crore and 40 crore" After Boi published next day saying those numbers are inflated, toi again updated the article with Boi figure on April 14th with "Beast has reportedly gained Rs 27 crores nett, while the gross is said to be around Rs 40 crores." In this statement they are saying BOI figure of ₹27 cr nett as ₹40 cr gross which is completely wrong gross calculation. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/box-office/beast-box-office-collection-day-1-vijays-film-smashes-all-previous-records-despite-the-hatred-and-negative-reviews/articleshow/90835150.cms?from=mdr

In their next day report they are saying movie made only ₹65 crores gross from all over the world in the first day. Which totally contradicts 40 crore from TN on the opening day because first day outside TN and Overseas value itself is more than ₹30 crore as per other reliable sources. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/news/beast-box-office-collection-day-3-vijay-starrer-goes-downhill-as-k-g-f-chapter-2-continues-its-successful-run/articleshow/90873550.cms?from=mdr

Also, as cited on the initial discussion, fifth day article was published with ₹195 crore without any break up just to match up with other unreliable sources. First 4 days break up 65+32+30+25 by toi,suddenly 43 added on day 5 and they didn't show that break up on their article thinking nobody will find out this inflation.

MovieBuffIndia (talk) 18:20, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

@MovieBuffIndia: Did you noticed day 5 is Sunday. So it can collect ₹43 crore on its 5th day. Jomontgeorge (talk) 06:55, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

On 6th day, Beast collected only ₹15 crore thus marking total of ₹210 crore. I think the reports of Times of India is true. Jomontgeorge (talk) 06:59, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Day 5 is Sunday which everyone knows, but Day 4 is Saturday(Holiday), Day 3(Local Holiday), Day 2(Tamil New Year Holiday), Day 1(Opening day). Even if you check the trend of collections it would not have collected 43 crore. Example if you take those who inflated the collections, their trend also shown only ₹1.25 crore increase of difference from Saturday for whole of India on Sunday.

Example Jatinder Day 1 to Day 5 in India. Wednesday - Rs. 59.50 crores Thursday - Rs. 24.25 crores Friday - Rs. 18.50 crores Saturday - Rs. 16.75 crores Sunday - Rs. 18 crores https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment/box-office/box-office-vijay-starrer-beast-has-excellent-opening-weekend-all-time-5-day-record-tamil-nadu-1070621 If you see this movie performed less than Friday on Sunday. In India movie has collected only ₹18 crore on Day 5 and where does the remaining ₹25 crore comes from? If we go by this logic, first day itself toi reported only 65 crores worldwide gross with 40 crore from TN, Overseas if we add 25, movie has made zero rupees from outside TN in India on opening day. This is also ruled out.

Also, major thing is toi was giving daily breakup, as soon as someone on social media started spreading with 200 crore they quickly wrote an article as ₹195 crore.

Another major thing to be noticed is, there is an over all inflation of 30+ crore just from India, 20+ crore just from TN, 15+ crore in Overseas in first 5 days. MovieBuffIndia (talk) 07:34, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

In a shocking update,

Bollywood hungama has now shared Beast box office outside India figures, Most of the key markets covered, they have mentioned weekend as well as Total gross. https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/movie/beast/box-office/

Leave about the $8.2m BH article copied from Deadline, now breakup from same BH doesn't even come close to $3.5 million us dollars after converting all currencies.

Individual author of Deadline also did not share country wise break up for $8.2 million mentioned for 5 days. The author at the start of Deadline article says figures are taken from local site Pinkvilla for a movie.

Also, even if we add another $1m or $1.5m or even $2 million for remaining markets which are not big ones usually, there is a difference $3 million Inflation.

This is not the first time, in past also, there were allegations of actor's ₹200 crore as fake.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/regional-movies/vijay-s-mersal-box-office-numbers-are-fake-says-a-leading-distributor-in-chennai/story-8htLH6y53fP4xxyuqy5ilN.html https://www.financialexpress.com/entertainment/mersal-box-office-collections-big-shock-vijay-starrers-figures-are-fake-this-man-makes-massive-claim/912362/

Looks like the same strategy is followed for this film to inflate numbers.

MovieBuffIndia (talk) 08:03, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Another contradicting report from toi,

According to them Day 1 to Day 4 = 152 core.

Day 1 - 65 Day 2 - 32 Day 3 - 30 Day 4 - 25

On day 5, article ₹195 crore. Without any break up.

Now, Day 6 - ₹15 crore https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/box-office/beast-box-office-collection-day-6-vijay-and-pooja-hegde-starrer-reaches-the-100-crores-club-in-tn-mints-rs-200-crores-worldwide/articleshow/90928250.cms?from=mdr

Day 7 - ₹25 crore(Tuesday working day- all other sources reporting way less than Day 6.) https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/news/beast-box-office-collection-day-7-vijays-film-on-par-with-the-total-valimai-collection/articleshow/90951965.cms

As per their own report Day 4 Saturday (₹25 crore) and now Day 7 working Tuesday also ₹25 crores.

People who are aware of movie biz will simply crack this manipulated numbers.

Clear evidence of inflation without any territory or Overseas breakdown.

Putting all my efforts in analysis to ensure readers are not mislead with the actual reality.

MovieBuffIndia (talk) 10:05, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Looks like Times of India is unreliable . How can Beast collect 25 crores on Tuesday ( same as Saturday's numbers)? According to Box office India, beast had a big drop on Monday & Tuesday.

Harihara1909196523 (talk) 11:46, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes, you are right, they are manipulating big time.

Day 6 - 15 crore.(Monday) Day 7 - 25 crore.(Tuesday) Day 8 - 3 crore.(Wednesday)

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/box-office/beast-box-office-collection-day-8-vijays-film-mints-rs-3-crore-continues-to-go-downhill/articleshow/90972483.cms?from=mdr MovieBuffIndia (talk) 06:42, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Requesting the attention of everyone

TOI 7th day report - ₹235 crore. Reads "On April 19, the movie earned a box office of Rs 25 crore reportedly. It is now on par with Ajith’s Valimai world collection of Rs 235 crore."

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/news/beast-box-office-collection-day-7-vijays-film-on-par-with-the-total-valimai-collection/articleshow/90951965.cms

TOI 9th day report - ₹210 crore. Reads "The film collection stands now close to Rs 210 crores"

https://m.timesofindia.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/box-office/beast-box-office-collection-day-9-vijay-sets-a-massive-record-in-kerala/articleshow/90994832.cms

Only in Times of India world a movie collection will decrease as the days increase.

MovieBuffIndia (talk) 14:04, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Review

Change review from mixed to mixed to positive because a lot of audiences were saying the movie was really good. It was said to have good comedy from the audience and good action sequences. The movie makers declared that Beast is a Blockbuster Hit. Sun Pictures also have a poster saying Blockbuster Hit. 2600:387:C:7013:0:0:0:A (talk) 03:20, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

In an article, we mention critics' reviews of the movie, not audience reception. —C.Fred (talk) 03:25, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 April 2022

The reviews need to be mixed to positive from fans. 68.197.204.128 (talk) 03:37, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. 💜  melecie  talk - 07:54, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

The change would not be made anyway, because according to the guidelines for film articles, the reception section only details reviews from critics, not fan opinion. —C.Fred (talk) 11:18, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

In "Times of India" it said that it got mixed and positive reviews. You can check it out. 68.197.204.128 (talk) 15:49, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Box Office collection

1. Beast collection has surpassed ₹235 Crore as of day 7 therefore there should be an update

2. No box office collection

3. Use this source https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/box-office/beast-box-office-collection-day-7-vijays-film-on-par-with-the-total-valimai-collection/articleshow/90948887.cms 2409:4073:39F:9666:0:0:1D03:60B0 (talk) 06:20, 20 April 2022 (UTC) 4. Beast collection ₹250 Crore in Day20 then it was collected ₹285Crore -

  ₹300Crore  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.106.185.213 (talk) 13:12, 18 June 2022 (UTC) 

Review change

68.197.204.128 (talk) 03:07, 21 April 2022 (UTC) I think we should change the reviews to "mixed to positive" for the movie Beast. In the article from "Times of India" it stated that the movie got positive and mixed reviews. The first critic review of Beast said that the movie was going to be a blockbuster (which obviously shows that he loved the movie). The movie did become a blockbuster hit. The movie makers declared (officially) the movie as a blockbuster hit. We all agreed to make this change, so it is safe to say that it is true and we should change the reviews. If you still disagree with me, I have another idea. We can also mention what the audience think too. I've seen a few articles about movies and it also mentioned what the audiences thought. The audiences told us that the movie was "mass" (tamil word for, in this case, "Amazing). We all agreed on this and we should put "mixed to positive." 

Nevermind, do not put "X or Y" just say yes and why or no and why. 68.197.204.128 (talk) 03:11, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Write "X" if you are putting this or write "Y" if not.

 Not done: see above Cannolis (talk) 04:58, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Mistake in reviews

You put that Beast got negative reviews. That is not fully true. You have to put mixed to positive. I saw the article someone was talking about and it was true. The movie did get mixed and positive reviews. The movie makers did officially declared that the movie was a blockbuster hit. You need to mention that it was a blockbuster movie because in many articles, it tells us the box office verdict. I think you should change the reviews because everybody wants to do that and it’s true. But the movie did not get fully negative reviews and that was a mistake. 2600:387:C:2C16:0:0:0:C (talk) 12:22, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Please add Mixed reviews from critics. You mistakenly added negative reviews from critics please remove negative reviews and add Mixed reviews. 2409:4071:4E03:CF81:714A:7CA8:17F9:8764 (talk) 12:36, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

 Done ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:37, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

No you have to put mixed to positive reviews. 68.197.204.128 (talk) 00:01, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Box office

On weekends it collected 210 crores in the worldwide. 2409:4071:4E03:CF81:8AA4:A9BA:B260:E1E (talk) 01:58, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Please provide any reliable sources Harald.Sigurdsson (talk) 07:27, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/box-office/beast-box-office-collection-day-7-vijays-film-on-par-with-the-total-valimai-collection/articleshow/90948887.cms 2409:4073:2E8E:E405:0:0:EF88:F90B (talk) 12:16, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

"Beast (upcoming film)" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Beast (upcoming film) and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 26#Beast (upcoming film) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:14, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Box office mistakes

Beast collected 242 crores in the box office in 12 days. Please add 242 crores correctly 2409:4072:282:D0A1:ECB7:226:902E:32EF (talk) 05:02, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Which sources are reporting that? —C.Fred (talk) 11:04, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 April 2022

Beast very first day its collect 38 cr from tamil nadu only. It ia the new record in tamil film industry — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kishok34 (talk • contribs) 17:31, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —C.Fred (talk) 18:45, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Box office update

Beast collected ₹240 worldwide. Please update BO. Source: https://zeenews.india.com/tamil/movies/beast-movie-beats-valimai-box-office-collection-less-than-12-days-390612

Dear Kailash29792, C.Fred, Fylindfotberserk, Ravensfire, Ab207,... Please update BO.

Update Box office

Beast grossed ₹240 crore worldwide. Times of India source says this. Update the Box office in article. Source: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/box-office/beast-box-office-collection-vijays-film-gets-a-solid-response-on-the-third-weekend-inches-close-to-rs-250-crore-mark/articleshow/91250482.cms 103.70.199.221 (talk) 10:17, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 May 2022

The film however was a major commercial successm despite receiving recieving underwhelmin reviews. Bananabhai (talk) 13:28, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:39, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 May 2022 (2)

There is an addition to the cast list that I would like to add. Cinematographer Manoj Paramahamsa appears as himself in the song Jolly O Gymkhana. NoelNixon2005 (talk) 18:00, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. MadGuy7023 (talk) 18:04, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Box Office Collection edit request - 10 May 2022

Box Office collection figures need to be updated to 250 crores from its ongoing Theatrical run, references here: India.com and Times Of India Kowsikbabu (talk) 13:48, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 May 2022

can I make a change in main page and release and reception area.

Can I do a minor change in this page Soyaabeen SK (talk) 07:19, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Only a small or medium edit in the page Soyaabeen SK (talk) 07:19, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone may add them for you. 💜  melecie  talk - 07:57, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Infobox unconstructive edit

Disputed box office number updated without achieving consensus 61.3.236.35 (talk) 14:36, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Box office collection.

According to trade analysist manobala vijayabalan, the film grossed an total collection of 153.64 cr.

https://twitter.com/ManobalaV/status/1524349844986290179?t=1x01Cav4nd2UI8XnVcTo-w&s=19

Update the page as same as it is like in valimai. He is a reliable source. Kichawww (talk) 17:40, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Requesting extended users to create a seperate section for criticism.

Requesting extended users to create a new and seperate section for criticism. Following the tweet given by the retired IAF officer. The reference URL(s) are provided below..

https://amp.indiaherald.com/Breaking/Read/994502151/Vijay-becomes-No-International-Trolled-Actor Kichawww (talk) 17:49, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Final collections

@Theoder2055, MNWiki845, Jayanthkumar123, and Ranjith207: Hello, folks. Please try to reach a consensus on the closing collections of this film. Box office figures cannot be off the article forever (it's only a temporary solution). Try to gather various reliable sources from any language, and display range if needed (both here and other related pages) -- Ab207 (talk) 05:59, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Ab207 as Sacnik and www.bollymoviereviewz.com are unreliable figures, go with TOI. Thank you Ranjith207 (talk) 09:25, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi folks @Theoder2055, Jayanthkumar123, Ab207 and Ranjith207

• According to Times of India its 250.06 Crore
• According to Sacnik its 216 Crore
• According to www.bollymoviereviewz.com it is 235.05 Crore

On the internet only old collections are there. I think we should put Times of India as a box office source.

MNWiki845 (talk) 08:44, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

I got 1, 2, 3, 4 sources saying Beast collected more than ₹250 crore. Thank you Ranjith207 (talk) 09:32, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

That’s what I told them @Ab207—- Theoder2055 (talk) 09:02, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 June 2022

BEAST BOX OFFICE COLLECTION 250CR IS COMPLETELY FAKE NEWSPAPER SITES ARE PROMOTING FAKE ARTICLES IT GOT ONLY 153 CR LIFETIME CHECK OUT THE TWEETS FROM OFFICIAL BLUE TICK TRADE ANALYSTS 103.160.194.94 (talk) 06:51, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Ab207 (talk) 07:26, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

250 crore is the actual collection

Manopala is portrayed in cinema circles as a psychiatrist. Agalyan (talk) 16:46, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Arjayay (talk) 18:43, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

BEAST GROSSED 300 CR SUCCESSFULLY

42.111.144.192 (talk) 07:07, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Ab207 (talk) 07:27, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Beast 300CR Grossed Successfully

After Bigil,Master now Beast entered 330Cr (US$45 Million)Grossed WorldWide Successfully in Box Office Collection

Will Produce the Collection Report and Reveal and update Soon in all Social Media through Official websites 42.104.142.52 (talk) 18:01, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.
There is no point repeatedly making the same unsourced claim, it will just be ignored - Arjayay (talk) 18:07, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

South Indian Actors with Career Highest Grossers 1. #Prabhas - 1810CR 2. #YashBoss - 1230CR 3. #NTR & #RamCharan - 1100CR 4. #Rajinikanth - 800CR 5. #KamalHaasan - 380CR*** ( Running #Vikram ) 6. #ThalapathyVijay - 368CR (Beast) 7. #AlluArjun - 360CR 8. #MaheshBabu - 234CR 42.106.186.96 (talk) 12:55, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

There is no point repeatedly making unsourced claims, they will just be ignored, and we aren't interested in Social Media claims - Arjayay (talk) 13:24, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 July 2022

Slgsx (talk) 05:23, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Replace "The production rights of Vijay's 65th film as lead actor, which was tentatively titled Thalapathy 65, were acquired by Sun Pictures in early January 2020, and the film was set to be written and directed by AR Murugadoss. However, the producers ousted Murugadoss from the film in October 2020, after he refused to cut his remuneration. Nelson was later hired, and wrote a new script for the film.

With an official announcement during December 2020, the film began principal photography in April 2021, and wrapped that December. It was shot across various locations in Chennai, including a specially designed set resembling that of a shopping mall where most of the film was shot, whilst sporadic schedules took place in Delhi and Georgia. The music was composed by Anirudh, cinematography was handled by Manoj Paramahamsa, editing by R. Nirmal and production design supervised by D. R. K. Kiran, respectively."

with "The production rights of Vijay's 65th film as lead actor, which was titled Thalapathy 65, were acquired by Sun Pictures in early January 2020. The film was set to be written and directed by AR Murugadoss. However, the producers expelled Murugadoss from the film in October 2020, after he refused to cut his remuneration. Nelson was later hired and he wrote a new script for the film.

With an official announcement during December 2020, the film began principal photography in April 2021, and wrapped that December. It was filmed across various locations in Chennai, including a specially designed set resembling that of a shopping mall where most of the film was shot, whilst sporadic schedules took place in Delhi and Georgia. The music was composed by Anirudh, cinematography was handled by Manoj Paramahamsa, editing was done by R. Nirmal and production design supervised by D. R. K. Kiran.

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Beast

but is this Beast is a commercial hit film but your mention above average film change the paragraph

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/box-office/beast-box-office-collection-vijays-film-gets-a-solid-response-on-the-third-weekend-inches-close-to-rs-250-crore-mark/articleshow/91250482.cms Agalyan (talk) 19:07, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Vijay Starter Beast 300Cr Back to Back

Beast Movie Collected 300Cr in profit venture Blockbuster Hit 42.106.185.107 (talk) 11:41, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

And the reference to your reliable source is ? - Arjayay (talk) 10:42, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Beast collection avoid Manobala related tweet sources

Beast collected 300 crs 117.193.222.227 (talk) 08:13, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

And the reference to your reliable source is ? - Arjayay (talk) 10:42, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

what is wrong with this source??

its way more strong than your pinkvilla source...so better write 153cr to 250cr

www.indiatoday.in/movies/regional-cinema/story/vikram-box-office-collection-day-6-kamal-haasan-s-film-crosses-beast-s-lifetime-mark-earns-rs-170-crore-in-india-1960163-2022-06-09 103.183.83.65 (talk) 11:07, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

The below India today source used fake box office tracker Manobala's tweet as its reference that's the main problem since Manobala has posted many hatred tweets against Vijay in twitter. How can he genuine with his collection when it comes to a Vijay film?. Hence the source is questionable because of Manobala's tweet used in it and it should be avoided. https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/regional-cinema/story/vikram-box-office-collection-day-6-kamal-haasan-s-film-crosses-beast-s-lifetime-mark-earns-rs-170-crore-in-india-1960163-2022-06-09 49.228.112.109 (talk) 14:54, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

If you have any other reference without Manobala's tweet in it post it here.49.228.112.109 (talk) 15:02, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

You say Manobala is a fake tracker. There have been tweets where he has praised Vijay as well. Alright, I am not getting into that ?

What about Jatinder Singh?

There are "N" number of instances where that guy openly degraded Ajith. He runs Cinetrak along with a Vijay fan called Mithun Raman. Boi exposed his biased reports in 2018.

Hence, Jatinder Singh's reports should not be considered for Ajith movies .

If not , then Manobala's numbers should be added for Beast as well.

Wikipedia should be fair & square for both Ajith & Vijay 👍 Arjun19990012 (talk) 08:50, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Manobala started mailing fake manipulated numbers to various articles including business today article against Vijay film Beast. Manobala is a clean Vijay hater from his previous tweets against Vijay so the below source should also be considered unreliable as it is considered questionable of genuine when it comes to Vijay film?

https://www.businesstoday.in/trending/box-office/story/jailer-to-cross-rs-550-crore-worldwide-becomes-second-rajinikanth-movie-to-enter-rs-500-crore-club-after-20-394834-2023-08-21 49.228.165.247 (talk) 14:34, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Regarding box office collection

Pudhiya Thalaimurai - an well established Tamil newspaper states that this movie collected around 290 - 300 crores at the box office.

This is the link to its source - https://www.puthiyathalaimurai.com/amp/article/155567/tamilnadu-box-office-collection-details-of-varisu-movie

Someone please look onto it. Kichawww (talk) 18:28, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Avoid Manobala related tweet sources for Vijay film articles including Beast and further

Manobala is well known for his hatred tweets against Vijay and his films how can he be genuine when it comes to Vijay film Beast collection as a tracker? Manobala started mailing fake manipulated numbers to various articles including business today article against Vijay film Beast. Manobala is a clean Vijay hater from his previous tweets against Vijay so the below business today source should also be considered unreliable as it is considered questionable of genuine when it comes to Vijay film?

According to fake trade analysist manobala vijayabalan, the film grossed an total collection of 153.64 cr.

https://twitter.com/ManobalaV/status/1524349844986290179?t=1x01Cav4nd2UI8XnVcTo-w&s=19

and this same 153.64 cr was shared again as beast collection with Manobala tweet as reference by business today since Manobala is a fake tracker and Vijay hater and known for manipulating and reducing box office numbers for Vijay films his sources including the below business today article should not be used as a reference since how can be genuine? when it comes to a Vijay film? it is a questionable source.

https://www.businesstoday.in/trending/box-office/story/jailer-to-cross-rs-550-crore-worldwide-becomes-second-rajinikanth-movie-to-enter-rs-500-crore-club-after-20-394834-2023-08-21 121.92.84.230 (talk) 19:11, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Source

NaanReady The source you are trying to add back is not listed at here. I think this would require a new discussion at the talk page of WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force. All print media is not reliable. This can be seen from the many examples at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. I think it's best to start a new discussion at WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force. The source you are trying to add does not seem very reliable.

(Yucky Cupid (talk) 07:30, 29 August 2023 (UTC))

https://www.puthiyathalaimurai.com/amp/article/155567/tamilnadu-box-office-collection-details-of-varisu-movie 

the above source puthiyathalaimurai.com news channel which says beast collected 300 crore comes under reliable source since its a official tamil news channel telecast in India and beast is a tamil movie. we should take it as a reliable source and its trustable source compared to other north indian news sources. 117.212.185.18 (talk) 14:23, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Beast was a critical failure but a commercial success as per many sources

User Theoder2055 has mentioned beast as a commercial failure kindly revert the vandalised user's edit and mention it as a commercial success. the film was made on a budget of 130 crore and collected more than 250 crore how can it be a commercial failure?. User Theoder2055 is a Vijay hater kindly watch his edits he has been negatively editing vijay and vijay film articles with a hidden agenda. Kindly undo his edits and restore beast article to good version.59.17.119.21 (talk) 16:39, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

@Kailash29792: Please look this source [1] Indian Express itself says the film is profitable. The Times of India source says "The film was a commercial success and made more than Rs 300 crore at the box office."[2]. You please add this source and change box office bomb to commercial successful. 103.161.55.182 (talk) 16:55, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

That it was profitable despite bad reviews was already known I thought. But I'm travelling now for three days, hope someone can solve this in my absence. Kailash29792 (talk) 17:07, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

@Kailash29792 Yeah! The source says the film is profitable. Also Times of India source says commercial successful. Box office source also can be updated as latest source says ₹300 crore. NaanReady (talk) 17:26, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

Regarding beast collection

please read sun tv financial report beast collection in india total 170 crores(inclusive ott commission) and abroad 65 crores. India today and pink villa is correct. Wikimedia has no sense simply pasting without verifying the facts. Puthiya thalaimurai mentioned just like that 290 to 300 you people are taking then Indian express mentioned kabali as 675 crores, same PT mentioned as 2.0 800 crores then you should take this also. Simply taking the tweet of a individual person of puthiya thalaimurai. Please note thus is TV channel not box office trusted like BOI or taran adarsh. If you want I will give trustedbtv channels box office tweet then you should 2409:4072:51B:98BC:0:0:4EF:D0B1 (talk) 15:25, 11 March 2024 (UTC)