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Suggestion — Maybe that content can be incorporated into the body of the article. Isaidnoway (talk) 20:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Critics have pointed out that BJP is hardly Right wing economically. (Requested edit since the page is protected)

Critics have pointed out BJP is in general (mostly) a mixture of conservative social policies, with quite a bunch of left leaning economic policies; the article in misleading in that sense since BJP is mostly opportunistic/pragmatic/populist mixtures than idealistic purity in economics. I would like someone who has the access to this page to actually edit it. These are few of the citations: 1 2 3 4 Averagepcuser (talk) 16:19, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Those sources are all opinion pieces; per WP:OPED WP:NEWSORG, they don't carry much weight. We need scholarly sources making the same argument. Vanamonde93 (talk) 20:27, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

ok thanks! I couldn't find many scholarly sources, I will keep that in mind for my next contribution. I am guessing they(the scholars) might be using the label right-left economic policies in a different way than categorically sorting out policies one by one, but more in the line with typicality of a party belonging to the category relative to others and their historical branding. If this guess of mine is true if BJP was non-hindu secular party on social policies it would be classified as centre to centre-left by the scholars. (I think I should look more into how scholars use this criteria by resisting the human urge of falling into word essentialism) Averagepcuser (talk) 07:39, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

There is a considerable body of literature showing that the BJP's economic policy has focused on deregulation, which is not a leftist priority. It has undeniably mixed in populist priorities, which we cover; but calling them "leftist" is not something we can do without reliable sources supporting that terminology. Vanamonde93 (talk) 16:01, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Edit request

Update state assembly represantion and CMS. 2001akselvaraj (talk) 07:05, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Adding categories

Hi @Toddy1: Can you please add the "Category:Far-right political parties in India," "Category:Far-right political parties", "Category:Far-right extremism," and "Category:Fascist parties" to the Bharatiya Janata Party article? As I can see, these categories are quite related to the article; they're well sourced by other editors. I added Category: Far-right extremism and Category: Fascist parties because the party wholly support Hindutva, whose idealogical roots support the above categories. In the main Hindutva article, support for fascism & extremist views has been widely described by scholarly sources / academic sources. Thanks--2409:40E0:1B:B91:61A7:4D87:45C7:2933 (talk) 16:53, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

There is no consensus for that.-- Toddy1 (talk) 21:56, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 June 2024

I propose updating the political classification of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) on Wikipedia from "right-wing to far-right" to "right-wing" to reflect a more accurate understanding of its ideological stance. The BJP is primarily recognized for its right-wing ideology, which includes Hindu nationalism, strong national defense, small government, and market-oriented economic policies. Its core philosophy, Integral Humanism, advocates for a progressive and enlightened nation inspired by India's ancient culture and values. While the BJP incorporates elements of Hindu nationalism, it has moved these ideas into the mainstream under Narendra Modi's leadership, distinguishing it from extreme far-right ideologies. The party's policy focus on infrastructure development, economic reforms, and maintaining India's territorial integrity aligns with traditional right-wing approaches rather than far-right positions. Updating the description to "right-wing" provides a more accurate representation of the BJP's political positioning and aligns with multiple reliable sources discussing the party's ideology and actions.

Thank you ヘンドリックス (talk) 10:51, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. Geardona (talk to me?) 01:11, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) is described as "right-wing to far-right." I think this should be changed back to "right-wing."

The BJP is primarily recognized for its right-wing ideology, which includes Hindu nationalism, strong national defense, small government, and market-oriented economic policies. Its core philosophy, Integral Humanism, advocates for a progressive and enlightened nation inspired by India's ancient culture and values. While the BJP incorporates elements of Hindu nationalism, it has mainstreamed these ideas under Narendra Modi's leadership, distinguishing it from extreme far-right ideologies. Changing the political position to "right-wing" aligns with multiple reliable sources discussing the party's ideology and actions.

Sources: https://www.liquisearch.com/bharatiya_janata_party/ideology_and_political_positions https://asiasociety.org/india/understanding-bjp-history-and-ideology https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/22/india-election-narendra-modi ヘンドリックス (talk) 11:12, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

I support reversion to "right-wing", as there are just as many sources calling the BJP "centre-right" or "center-right" as "far-right". Since different sources apply different descriptions, "right-wing" is the best descriptor as a big tent term on the right. Here are some "centre-right"'/"center-right" sources: Deutsche Welle: https://www.dw.com/en/india-bjp-backs-tribal-politician-draupadi-murmu-for-president-against-former-ally/a-62505626; Al Jazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2015/11/13/british-indians-divided-over-modis-uk-visit; Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/divided-families-and-tense-silences-us-style-polarization-arrives-in-india/2019/05/18/734bfdc6-5bb3-11e9-98d4-844088d135f2_story.html; Scottish Daily Express: https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/scottish-greens-reported-police-stirring-32990430. Calling the BJP far-right also removes the distinction with genuinely far-right parties like the Shinde-led Shiv Sena, the Maharashtra Navnirman Sena and the Hindu Mahasabha. --Jay942942 (talk) 11:10, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

This request would be more convincing if you looked at scholarly sources rather than media, some of dubious quality. (t · c) buidhe 14:21, 19 June 2024 (UTC)