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I started this page as a parallel Protests against Donald Trump (which was redirected from its original title Demonstrations and protests against Donald Trump,) as a place to let new articles on pro-Trump demonstration begin life (they can be moved to mainspace if tehy attain notability) and, quite frankly, as a plausibe redirect target for articles like Trump Unity Bridge and Mother of All Rallies in order to give editros at AfD a third option (something between keep and delete.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:13, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. While I don't wish to see the Trump Unity Bridge and Mother of All Rallies articles merged into this one, I do think this serves as a helpful and necessary companion to Protests against Donald Trump. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:45, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Patriot Prayer[edit]

Should any of the other events mentioned Patriot Prayer be included in this article? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:40, 23 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My contribution to the Article[edit]

Hello Wikipedia family. I have added more information to the article in relation to what happened before and after the two protests. I hope that readers will find this one too useful.Black thunder9 (talk) 04:40, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Black thunder9: you've made a bit of a mess and confused two rallies. The 100,000 number was the anti-Trump protest. The pro-Trump rally was not a big rally as it had small numbers. The people with hats were a small group at the anti-Trump rally. I don't know whnat "Efforts by the police to keep the matches were futile as distinct thousands of protesters (President Trump Supporters)" means. "futile as distinct thousands of protestors" makes little sense, and calling supporters protestors is confusing as we've already mention a protest march against Trump. The protestors were from the Free Tommy event. Nevermind, it's too close to the original text so I'm deleting it as copyvio. There's still some poor English and the claim that " The pro-Trump protesters wore Make America Great Again hats chanting “USA” as they also supported Tommy Robinson." were at the pro-Trump rally which is just wrong. The source[1] is about the anti-Trump protest rally and says "Wearing Make America Great Again hats, the small group chanted "USA" and also voiced their support for English far-right activist Tommy Robinson." Your edit made it sound as though 100,000 people were wearing the hat. The man using the fake name was also at the anti-Trump rally. Doug Weller talk 11:51, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Doug Weller: i think it's you who got it all wrong. Please read this source again Donald Trump's UK visit draws thousands of protesters and supporters in London) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-14/brits-turn-up-in-hordes-to-march-at-donald-trump-protest/9993820 and you will realize that you misunderstood the article. The article talks about both groups-pro and anti-Trump demonstraters. The man with a hat was in the pro-Trump group. Please see their images and captions in the article for your consideration. Thank you.Black thunder9 (talk) 08:59, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of relevant discussion of this article[edit]

Here (permalink) --David Tornheim (talk) 14:26, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Albertaont: I assume your recent edit is related? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:00, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Correct, I am reversing a persistent sock account from the same user. There have been at least 9 accounts from the same user so far. Albertaont (talk) 18:03, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion about a merge into this article.[edit]

Recently, Protests against Joe Biden was created. A merge proposal was added so this is the relevant discussion for that merge proposal.

The author of the article has withdrawn objection to the merge, so it appears to be unanimous to merge to 2020–2021 United States election protests. -- MelanieN (talk) 17:41, 6 January 2021 (UTC) (closing even though INVOLVED, per SNOW)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

*Oppose. Even though the sources say “Pro-trump supporters” the protests (January 5-6) are against the election of Joe Biden to the office of U.S. President. Now that the election is over, most protests are going to be against Joe Biden/the election. Elijahandskip (talk) 17:08, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The sources you yourself cited explicitly describe the event as a "pro-Trump protest." Unfortunately, you're attempting to reject and deny what your own sources say. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 17:12, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The National Guard has been mobilized to Washington ahead of pro-Trump demonstrations planned this week as Congress convenes to certify the election results. That's what the NBC News source says. That you disagree with this source is not relevant. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 17:14, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am not actually. The sources also say “ The protests coincide with Wednesday’s congressional vote expected to certify the Electoral College results,” (Quote from AP News). I still stand by my oppose to the merge. {Also a slight formality I guess, there is an article for Protests against Donald Trump, so eventually this article’s title will be used even if it is merged. Elijahandskip (talk) 17:17, 5 January 2021 (UTC)}[reply]

Also just added this (USA Today) source to the article which directly related the protests to the election loss, aka against Joe Biden winning the office of US President. Elijahandskip (talk) 17:29, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to 2020 United States election protests – not yet a notable topic (possibly not even an existent one), but 2020 United States election protests is a more obvious target. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 17:36, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to 2020 United States election protests. According to the articles provided as references, these are clearly about the election. —Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 17:40, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to 2020 United States election protests. As Naddruf said, according to the sources used in this article, the protests are about the election, not about one candidate or another. • • rslashthinkong (User page) (User talk page) 17:47, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to 2020 United States election protests: Echoing Naddruf, the provided sources state that the protests are about the election, not a particular candidate. Thus, a merge and redirect to the election protests article would be the appropriate course of action. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 20:12, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to 2020 United States election protests: As previously stated, its protests about the election results, not generic protests against a president or candidate. Albertaont (talk) 20:14, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to 2020 United States election protests per above. A redirect can be made for "Protests against Joe Biden". 98.116.187.127 (talk) 22:11, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to 2020 United States election protests as above. There have not been enough "anti-Biden" protests, or widely enough reported, to justify a separate article. -- MelanieN (talk) 02:20, 6 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. It should be noted for context that the "protests against Joe Biden" article was created just today, Jan. 5, by User:Elijahandskip. Also note that the protests that the DC authorities are gearing up for are from pro-Trump activists; no source calls them, or their protests, "anti-Biden", just pro-Trump. So I suppose the article could be merged with "demonstrations in support of Donald Trump" since the two are synonymous. But I would still prefer a merge with the more general 2020 election article. -- MelanieN (talk) 02:30, 6 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Creator) Support Merge to 2020 United States election protests per above. Elijahandskip (talk) 04:06, 6 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to 2020 United States election protests. This is barely an article and isn't notable enough to stand on its own. — Czello 17:30, 6 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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