Talk:DuckTales (1987 TV series)

Bias

I marked this article with the bias template because of the first two sentences in the final paragraph of the first section:

As for DuckTales itself, it was last seen on Toon Disney, Disney's (so-called) all-toon network. Due to bad scheduling and the addition of JETIX, it has vanished completely off the network.

These seem biased to me, but I also think some folks may not think so. I'm basically looking for a consensus here. Fredo 21:37, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

A rewrite would be good. Maybe: "DuckTales was last seen on Toon Disney, a Disney-owned network that airs mostly animated cartoons. After the addition of JETIX, the show left circulation, and as of 2005, it is not airing." BrianSmithson 22:18, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

I'd vote for a removal or rewrite of that entire paragraph, since it only applies to (and makes sense to) American readers. -- Bob, 20:18, 25 juli 2006 (EST)

Characters

I added links to the family trees that were on the Hortense Duck page for clarification of the characters. A list of characters that appear in the show, or at least those that appear in the page's accompanying picture, would be most helpful if anyone has the time & knowledge.128.252.107.73 22:04, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

This section is missing a reference to Duckworth. 122.169.69.100 (talk) 04:04, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Languages

How many languages are we going to put in the Foreign Translations and The Internet section? It seems like somebody's adding a new one every now and then. – Iggy Koopa 23:01, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Animation Studio on DuckTales.

I noticed that the wikipedia entry does not mention the animation studio that was involved. If I remember clearly, it was TMS Entertainment. Anyone here know for sure?

Lyrics

How about someone posting the lyrics to the theme? 71.250.51.234 19:38, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

The show and the theme song are still under copyright, so those lyrics would be illegal for us to post. — BrianSmithson 03:37, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Premiere

The article says the pilot episode premiered on the 11th September 1987...but this UK ITV listing from the 7th [1] clearly features it as part of the CiTV lineup. Did it premiere in the UK first, or something? BillyH 07:46, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

DuckTales episodes

umm, why is the DuckTales episodes page deleted?

Russian

Did the Russian version contain a badly acted dub over the original English speech, as the Russians are infamous for always doing? 惑乱 分からん 22:02, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

I think it wasn't. I have been watching Утиные истории for a long time and made some VHS recordings. Brand 18:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Definitely not. Low-quality dubs were typical for "garage translations" ( which, unfortunately, constituted 90% of Western content available in Russia during Perestroyka. ) All content purchased by/for the state TV was always properly dubbed. --Itinerant1 22:39, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

The Number One Dime

This article states that the number one dime was not a luck charm in the comics. In fact, it is clearly said to be a good luck charm for Scrooge on numerous occasions. In "Getting that healthy, wealthy feeling" in Uncle Scrooge #50, for example, the entire plot hinges upon Scrooge touching the dime in order to reverse his recent luck.

I think DuckTales in other languages should be removed.

Resolved

Most articles about American cartoons dubbed into other languages don't have sections like that. I will take the famous cartoon SpongeBob SquarePants for example. There is not a single section like that one. This is the English wikipedia, not the Swedish, Japanese, German or the French Wikipedia. I think we should remove this section. But the reason why I'm disscussing it first is because I don't want edit wars. So I'm gonna make sure someone agrees with me before I delete. TheBlazikenMaster 18:23, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Thirteen days, and no disscussion. That means nobody cares. That also means that I've no choice but bring it to attention to some WikiProject. And I know Disney is the perfect one. TheBlazikenMaster 21:24, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

There you go. I've deleted it. There's no reason it should be there...at all. If there are articles on other language Wikipedias, they should be linked to correctly at the bottom. There should never just be a random list of random languages like that. --pIrish ^Arr! 21:50, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, the reason why I wanted to disscuss because I wasn't 100% sure. I think I'll add the resolved tag to the Disney Project page as well. TheBlazikenMaster 21:54, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I also took out the long list of languages it's been translated to. That was beyond excessive. There should only be a few, probably around five maximum, if any at all. However, I think the phrase as I left it gets the point across just fine. --pIrish ^Arr! 22:03, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I totally agree with the removal, such lists are totally pointless. For some reason they are often (if not always) found on Disney related articles. I recently removed 20 different spellings or so of Pinocchio in Pinocchio (1940 film). Garion96 (talk) 22:16, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I know this is off-topic, but I wouldn't call several months recently. Even though it's the same year. TheBlazikenMaster 22:20, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Lol, I first wrote another example, but later changed it to Pinoccio because that one was so ridiculous. (there was barely any difference in the names there) Originally I was going to say Huey, Dewey, and Louie. Garion96 (talk) 05:49, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

VHS releases

I found it, I found a list of DuckTales VHS titles that came out each of the following years. There are ten in total. Take a look! If you have any question, please ask above the titles.

Daredevil Ducks (October 4, 1988)

High-Flying Hero (October 4, 1988)

Fearless Fortune Hunter (October 4, 1988)

Accidental Adventures (October 4, 1988)

Seafearing Sailors (September 28, 1989)

Masked Marauders (September 28, 1989)

Duck to the Future (September 28, 1989)

Lost World Wanderers (September 28, 1989)

Raiders of the Lost Harp (August 14, 1990)

Space Invaders (August 14, 1990)

Signed by:

Skymac207 18:51, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Japanese Dub

Presumably, this show was dubbed for Japanese audiences. The dub cast is not listed on the Japanese page for DuckTales. Does anyone know where to find the Japanese voice cast? ChibiKareshi 13:01, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

You should ask that question on the Japanese Wikipedia, not here. If you have problems reading Japanese, get the right front, and use translation programs like Google Translate. TheBlazikenMaster 16:28, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

The episodes (If you're watching this page, please read.)

Resolved

Does each episode REALLY needs its own article? A lot of animated series don't have their own article. I have two volumes, and my DVDs have no commentary, furthermore, some of the trivia or cultural references don't have source. I tagged Time Teasers, and tomorrow I will probably add more tags to other articles, the only real reference I'm aware of is William Shakespear (in Much Ado About Scrooge, then there was a lost play that sucked) in one of the episodes, even then, I don't think it's a real reference to anything.

I seriously think we need to clean up all these episode articles, and possibly merge them, I will bring this to attention on the WikiProject Disney if this gets totally ignored here. TheBlazikenMaster 22:40, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree with you. The way they are looking now is not good enough. They need "Concept and creation", "Reception" and sources in order to survive a merger. The "Trivia" sections must also be removed. The Prince of Darkness 23:14, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

I see you added a tag to the movie, well done. Soon I have to go to work, when I get back home from work I will add more tags to the episodes. I will just use the {{cleanup}} tag as that will be quicker than adding both the plot AND the trivia tag to the same article. TheBlazikenMaster 07:39, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey! I'm at work now and there isn't much to do, so I will just tag all the articles. Hell, there might even be enough time to bring this to attention on all the WikiProjects this talkpage has. TheBlazikenMaster 08:46, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, there was more than enough time to clean up, there is also enough time to get this to attention to WikiProjects.

IMPORTANT NOTE TO MERGERS: When you merge articles with headnotes, that don't have (DuckTales) or (DuckTales episode) (like Send in the Clones) change the redirect to the pointed article. TheBlazikenMaster 22:28, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

CS:S

in the map de_westwood_07 or something, the title track for this plays... just a lil trivia. --Frvwfr2 04:33, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

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Removal of large section of DuckTales page

Please see:

• Talk:DuckTales:_The_Quest_for_Gold#Removal_of_material_from_this_page and comment on the deletion of editors contributions. Ikip (talk) 21:25, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Quackpack NOT a spin-off of ducktales

Both are based on older Disney characters, but it is not a spin-off. I give up. You guys have fun playing fast and loose with the entire Disney afternoon pantheon. Someone needs to take charge of all those pages. Wickedjacob (talk) 06:20, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Taco Nazi

No mention of how much fame the Finnish overdub for the theme song has garnered over the internet. Salamibears58 (talk) 15:42, 31 March 2012 (UTC)Salamibears58

2017

Are we going to created a page for the 2017 series or add the new series to this.

Requested move 11 October 2016

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DuckTales → DuckTales (1987 TV series) – this page DuckTales need to be move to Ducktales (1987 TV series) to sparted it for the upcoming reboot 82.38.157.176 (talk) 10:39, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

• Oppose. The 1987 series is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, so disambiguation is presently unnecessary. Hatnotes should suffice. -- Wikipedical (talk) 18:01, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose For now, this is the most notable DuckTales. Perhaps that will change in 10 years, but WP:CRYSTAL. Ribbet32 (talk) 22:25, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

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Fantasy removed.

Someone removed fantasy from this article. DuckTales has every element of Fantasy. — FilmandTVFan28 (talk) 23:44, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Looks like it has been added in the info-box. 47.208.20.130 (talk) 01:44, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Page protection

I have protected the article for 24 hours just to get you people to quit reverting each other and take your differences to the talk page - which you keep telling the OTHER person to do, in edit summaries, but somehow never do yourselves. There has been no attempt to discuss anything on this talk page since August. I'm talking to you, User:GUtt01 and User:Spshu: Use the talk page and stop reverting each other. --MelanieN (talk) 00:52, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

I don't have an issue with some of their edits now, such as removing information on additional cast members and the formatting of the infobox, but my recent was to clean up some of the mistakes they left in; their edit left some places a mess, such as allowing information to be split up in a way that one part contained something that was then found in another paragraph, and allowing a citation to be duplicated rather than using just the "ref name" part. The only thing I have to ask is, should any program that got syndicated, begin its lead with the first sentence stating that it was a syndicated program? GUtt01 (talk) 05:51, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Because, @MelanieN:, GUtt01 admitted revert with out checking any source ("They also comment that the cartoon is the first Disney cartoon to be syndicated, but they have done nothing to prove this to be the case in terms of citations, and I can't say if this can be considered true or not.") that I added while claiming "This is unconstructive and remains questionable. The user needs to discuss the inclusion of information to see if others believe it is notable to include". This is know disruptive activity per WP:DISTRUPTIVE EDIT. I gave him a warning, GUtt01 again reverted. He was then notified that he was edit warring by FilmandTVFan28 then again since he continued his disruptive edit, I warned him again. The then claimed that disruptive notice "Someone else beat you to this, so please don't aggravate the situation" in removing the notice. I in fact no where told him to take our difference to the talk page in fact I pointed out that one of his complains was bogus and he would not be listen to as he was restoring the unsourced material that I sourced but claim I was not sourcing it. Because, he has no objections to my edit other than the fact that edited with sources to ruin his unsourced article. How in the world to you talk to any one that has not check a single source? Thus in effect a disruptive editor. He in fact asked another editor to act as a puppet in reverting my restoration after promising not to revert again. Then removed my previous post discussing the matter, so I did discuss this with him. Spshu (talk) 14:18, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Don't talk to me. Talk to each other. And focus on the content, not on who did what. Identify an issue where you differ, explain what you want to say and why, let them respond, try to work out an agreement about what the article should say. Sometimes it works out best if you start a separate section for each area of disagreement, if there are more than one, so that you can stay focused on the issue. --MelanieN (talk) 14:43, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

You started down the who did what and misrepresented what I did and disregard what he has done. So, the difference was I follow WP sourcing rules to the hilt, GUtt doesn't care was disruptive, canvassed, request edit war assistance/puppet action, which he now denies (below) he did, when I directly linked to said actions. IF admin don't address those that are disruptive and accept their actions then they win as it basic states at Wikipedia:Disruptive editing - "Collectively, disruptive editors harm Wikipedia by degrading its reliability as a reference source and by exhausting the patience of productive editors who may quit the project in frustration when a disruptive editor continues with impunity." --Spshu (talk) 21:52, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

First and foremost, I would *never* ask another editor to act as a puppet. The individual I talked to was an admin, who I was querying over whether I had been right to revert edits made to this article or not; I'm not sure if they'll reply to this query. After someone else notified me I was getting close to Edit Warring, I did my best to avoid causing problems, and later I checked over Spshu's edit, in which I decided that they had been right to remove some content and add in a production company that had been involved in the cartoon's creation, yet I was concerned by how in doing their edit, they left in a few mistakes that left the Lead in a slight mess towards the end, duplicated an existing citation, and allowed some information to be split up into two parts; this led me to doing what I could to clean it up for them and make this more presentable to readers.

@Spshu: At present, I have no issues none with what you included and done - removal of additional cast members, inclusion of sources and production company involved in the cartoon - and as such I want to apologise for causing any issues for you. I only ask that if you have any issue with how my cleanup of the information you put in, please, please, let me know, using a bulleted list of any issues that you have, and I'll try to see what we can do to make the article even better. In return, can you help me in understanding if any article on a syndicated programme, has begun with a sentence states if it is such. It would help to show this to be the case with syndicated programmes from more than just the United States, for example, syndicated programmes from Britain. GUtt01 (talk) 14:51, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

You did in fact ask some one (FilmandTVFan28) to act as a puppet. I directly linked to that post above and now again (and which now you have expressly removed to hide.) O, and I did read what you did but you did not restore any of my edit that you now say is acceptable. You notified by me that you were disruptive chose to ignore it, which included reasons why with link to MOS about formatting the infoboxes.

• Remove that it was a syndicated series, Disney TV Animation's first hit and source that it was a hit from the lead sentence. Will be restore give that it follows WP:TVLEAD in indicated release through.
• "...and premiered on September 18, 1987, becoming a huge success, and running for a total of four seasons and 100 episodes, ending on November 28, 1990, making it one of the longest-running Disney shows in terms of number of episodes." Additional verable here is not sourced in the article and should not have been added.
• Removal of "The series is notable for being the first Disney cartoon to be produced for syndication(ref name=ign)(ref name="av") and its first week day (five show,(ref name="av"/) and paving the way for future Disney cartoons, such as Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers and TaleSpin plus spin offs Darkwing Duck and Quack Pack. A revival series of the same name premiered on Disney XD on August 12, 2017." This is the correct spot for this information as this is summary information and sourced. Needs to be returned.
• "...syndication unit, began work on producing DuckTales..." A syndication unit (generally) doesn't produce shows they shop and distribute show to the station as an alternative to networks.
• "...outsourcing some of the animation work to Tokyo Movie Shinsha (now TMS Entertainment), who had previously assisted in the production of two Disney cartoons that were aired in 1985 - The Wuzzles and Disney's Adventures of the Gummi Bears." If a reader wants to know more about TMS then they can go to that article. The sources do not support that TMS did any work on the Wuzzles or Gummi Bears. So that needs to be removed including Toonpedia sources.
• "Despite the outsourcing increasing production costs by 40%, in part from currency exchange rates at the time, Disney invested heavily in a bid to ensure the finished cartoon contained high quality animation, in comparison with other 1980s cartoons that were made with much lower budgets, and planned for it to be syndicated, in order to recuperate their investment, along with it premiering in 1987 with a timeslot set within a 4-6 p.m. placement, at a time when more children would be watching television, rather than in a morning timeslot." Run on sentence, with restoration of BVTV and Japanese outsource information as I had it fixes this issue.

More later... Spshu (talk) 21:52, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

@Spshu: I removed the message to that editor, because I realized that was wrong of me to ask of them to do. Just understand that I'm not an expert on things, and I can get things a bit (or sometimes very) wrong. Now... to these issues you highlighted, I'll go through what I think in order of their posting:

1. Alright, but try to ensure it's presentation is neat and understandable.
2. Let's leave the date of its premier, the number of seasons and episodes it had, and the date it finished, within the lead, and remove the additional variables.
3. I think this here is a bit of mess at this part - "and its first week day (five show,..." - So maybe not include that part, and perhaps include "weekday" between "for" and "syndication", and change "paving" to "paved" or remove the "and" before that word and having a comma placed before it. I also would not state that Qauck Pack is a spin-off of this cartoon; it's actually its own cartoon series and differs completely to DuckTales.
4. I did not realise I was making a mistake there. I think that should really be within this sentence, perhaps like this - " and planned for it to be syndicated via <syndication unit>, Disney's syndication unit..." Also, I think I forgot to mention the year that production on the cartoon began.
5. Well... I suppose that is true, but I'm sure the sources mention that those cartoons were outsourced by Disney in terms of animating them, though it's likely a case of just double-checking the citations, those and others, to be sure of that, and either modifying them if they are correct; otherwise, they can be removed.
6. Okay, but just be careful how that is added in, okay? Also... what's BVTV?

GUtt01 (talk) 22:21, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Just going to add to point No.3 that we may also wish to not state that Darkwing Duck is a spin-off as well; this is merely fan-based information that got debunked by that show's creator, as is stated in that show's article. GUtt01 (talk) 11:33, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

References

Castlist

My suggestion for included cast, as follows, include the most often appearing actors (9+ appearances) in their most often appearing roles (4+ appearances). Since the show doesnt specify which actors are regulars and which is not, this is the only method to get a fairy encyclopedic approach, and is mor in coherence with the rules, than randomly deciding which actors are worth including.

• Alan Young as Scrooge McDuck
• Russi Taylor as Huey, Dewey and Louie Duck, and Webby Vanderquack
• Chuck McCann as Duckworth the Butler, Burger Beagle, and Bouncer Beagle
• Terry McGovern as Launchpad McQuack and Babyface Beagle
• Frank Welker as Bigtime Beagle, Baggy Beagle, Bubba the Caveduck, and Poe De Spell
• Hal Smith as Gyro Gearloose and Flintheart Glomgold
• Joan Gerber as Mrs. Beakley and Glittering Goldie
• Hamilton Camp as Fenton Crackshell/Gizmoduck (seasons 2-4. Additional voices in season 1)
• June Foray as Ma Beagle and Magica De Spell
• Peter Cullen as Admiral Grimitz and Bankjob Beagle (season 1)
• Brian Cummings as Doofus Drake and Bugle Beagle (season 1. Additional voices in season 3)
• Kathleen Freeman as Mrs. Crackshell (seasons 2-4)
• Tony Anselmo as Donald Duck (season 1)
• Miriam Flynn as Gandra Dee (seasons 2-4)

The show also featured a range of additional voice actors who voiced several minor characters, including the following:

• Tress MacNeille
• Will Ryan
• Susan Blu
• Jim Cummings
• Alan Oppenheimer

-Pyy (talk) 15:52, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Categories

I have removed this article from Category:Television series set in the 1980s. That category is only for televisions set in the 1980s, that were not made in that decade (ie pre 1980s series set in the then future 1980s or series since 1990 set in the historical 1980s). Ducktales was made in the 1980s so does not fit the category. Dunarc (talk) 21:46, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Production company

@TarkusAB: Template:Infobox television/doc under "Company" says "The names of the production company or companies that funded/organized series production. Note: sub-contractors hired to perform production work, e.g. animation houses, special effects studios, post-production facilities etc. should not be included here, as this may create confusion about the nation(s) of origin. Instead, use sourced prose in the article's Production section to explain these details."
Tokyo Movie Shinsha as described in the article and as sourced is a sub-controactor hired to perform production work so does not belong in the infobox. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:00, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Fair enough. TarkusAB^talk 20:03, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

theme song for german adaption

" In many countries, the theme song was performed by well-known singers (like in Finland, where it was sung by Pave Maijanen, or in Germany, where it was sung by Thomas Anders in English)." anders himself has stated in several interviews that this is not the case. 2A02:908:532:C540:40FE:8102:CA65:E6A2 (talk) 07:41, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

2017

should i have created a page for the 2017 series? 2601:843:100:D350:8800:A71A:FC86:C618 (talk) 21:42, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Mustery 2011 Mobile Video game

I cannot find any online source about the alleged 2011 DuckTales videogame for mobile phones by "Artefact Games" in Moscow. Please add source or delete... 95.91.245.89 (talk) 04:46, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 10 August 2024

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Frost 17:49, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

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• DuckTales → DuckTales (1987 TV series)
• DuckTales (disambiguation) → DuckTales
• List of DuckTales episodes → List of DuckTales (1987 TV series) episodes

– There is no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, both the 1987 and 2017 series have similar significance. For example consider pageviews. The 2017 series has nearly the same pageviews and consider that users looking for the 2017 series may arrive at this article first instead. WikiNav also shows this. This is also shown by link counts: 1987 and 2017. The 2017 series is old enough that these numbers are not due to WP:RECENTISM. Arnav Bhate (talk) 16:45, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Note to closer: since the current title will not be a redirect to the 1987 series, links to this title will have to be changed. Arnav Bhate (talk) 17:16, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support - equal significance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geraldo Perez (talk • contribs)
• Support per nom. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:29, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Support per nominator. Killuminator (talk) 20:30, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

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