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Wikidata

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We have a Wikidata page for the Medes and another for the Media region/satrapy. I was thinking about creating one just for the Median kingdom/empire because the organization of the items is very confusing in my opinion. Mawer10 (talk) 16:44, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 3 April 2024

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Moved to Median Kingdom (non-admin closure) Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:14, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Median stateMedian kingdom or Median Empire – The term "kingdom" is more common and natural as evidenced in the article itself. Mawer10 (talk) 21:38, 31 March 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Mawer10 (talk) 01:13, 3 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Natg 19 (talk) 23:05, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A search on Google Scholar shows that results for "Median state" do not always refer to the Median political entity, furthermore it is not very common to refer to political entities from the Ancient Era as "states". On the other hand, a search for "Median kingdom" always gives the correct results. "Median Empire" is also a valid title, I would support it too. But since the existence of such an empire is questionable, the title "Median kingdom" would be the most ideal. Amakuru, Ahecht. Mawer10 (talk) 12:52, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Predecessors

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@EdwardElric2016: The conquest of Elam by the Medes is unlikely and there is no significant evidence of a relationship between the Medes and Elamites, furthermore Elam continued to exist as a political entity after the fall of Assyria. See Median kingdom#Median expansion, and the source if you have time. Mawer10 (talk) 10:42, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As for the Scythians and Cimmerians, they are not relevant as predecessors of the Median Kingdom because they continued to exist after the end of the Median Kingdom. They are nomadic people, the Medes (at least according to Herodotus) had already founded their kingdom when the Scythians appear in the history. Mawer10 (talk) 10:47, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]