Talk:Mike Tyson/Archive 3

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Archive 1

Archive 2

Archive 3

Achievements Tyson

Champion Youth Olympic Games in the first heavyweight champion (1982). World champion in the heavyweight category by version WBC (1986-1990, 1996), WBA (1987-1990, 1996), IBF (1987-1990), The Ring (1988-1990). "Boxer year," according to the magazine "The Ring" (1986, 1988). " The most promising boxer" in 1985 by the magazine "The Ring." "Personality of the year abroad," according to the BBC Sports (1989). Best boxer regardless of weight class (1988, 1989) magazine's "Ring." Three times received the "event of the year" by the magazine "Ring" 1995 - Return Tyson, 1998 - Restore Tyson, 2002 - Scandal press conference Tyson - Lewis. "Round of the Year" by the magazine "Ring" (1988). "Fighter of the Year" by BWAA (1986,1988). Number one in the ranking of the strongest heavyweights on the magazine Ring (1987, 1991.1996). "The most violent person in the history of the sport," according to the channel ESPN. "The most powerful puncher in history," according to the channel ESPN. Included in the International Boxing Hall of Fame, the World Boxing Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame wrestling and July 9 2010, Milan e won Guirlande d'Honneur.

Is the holder of several world records, not beaten to this day: the youngest world champion in the heavyweight division (20 years), the youngest undisputed world cruiserweight champion (at 21), a boxer who spent the least time with the debut of winning titles Absolute champion and world champion in the heavyweight division (1 year 8.5 months and 2 years and 5 months, respectively), the first and only all-round champion, who won three major titles one after the other, the highest paid heavyweight in history, of the ten most expensive battles in the history of boxing, Mike Tyson took part in the six, only defended the title of Absolute Champion (WBC, WBA, IBF) six times in a row, the only person other than Joe Louis and who was able to win by knockout in the first round of the battle and three world the only one who did it against the reigning champions, the fastest knockout in the Youth Olympic Games (8 seconds).

Mike Tyson has a number of notable victories over fighters: Michael Spinks, Larry Holmes, Tony Tucker, Tony Tubbs, Frank Bruno, Donovan Ruddock Trevor Berbick, Bruce Seldon, Francois Botha, Brian Nielsen, Tyrell Biggs

Has three previous convictions. In 1992 (for rape was sentenced to six years in prison, of which spent 3) and in 1998 (with the beating of people who faced with his car, was sentenced to 3.5 months' imprisonment) and 2008 (a day in prison for drug use and driving vehicle intoxicated). At an early age also is serving his sentence in children's colonies. Married his third marriage. The father of eight children. In 2009, the tragic death of his four year old daughter. Professes Islam and is the Arabic name 'Malik Abdul Aziz' (English: Malik Abdul Aziz). Is vegan.

Trainers: Cass D'Amato, Kevin Rooney, Teddy Atlas, Freddie Roach.

Took part in writing the script for the autobiographical film "Tyson" (1995), and starred in two documentaries "Beyond the Glory" (2003) and "Mike Tyson" (2009).

Nickname - "Iron Mike."

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Controversy and Upset

Robin Givens contradicts herself in an interview she, and her then husband former heavy weight champion Mike Tyson, had with Barbara Walters. "Michael... is a manic depressive. They, he is. It's something that is just a fact. It's been torture. It's been pure hell. It's been worse than anything I could possibly imagine. I think for the first time, I can understand abused women. There is a time, when he cannot control his temper and that's frightening to me or to my mother...He shakes. He pushes. He swings...There are times when Michael is manic and extremely abusive. Not physically. Verbally." Svsulaser (talk) 04:26, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Not done: This article is not semi-protected at this time, so the {{edit semi-protected}} tag is not necessary. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 15:30, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Appearances

How come nothing is mentioned about his stint on Law & Order: SVU — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.9.43.75 (talk) 02:35, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

It's here: Mike Tyson in popular culture#In movies and television.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 18:36, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks SS! -- — Keithbob • Talk • 20:19, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Selective editing

I remember reading this article several years back, and since then I've noticed that information on his conversion to Islam, and even his Muslim name "Malik Abdul Aziz" has been systematically removed from the article. Is this deliberate or merely an over-sight, but that still couldn't explain why its been removed. Any ideas on whether we can go ahead restoring that data, or are they any objections I'm unaware of? DA1 (talk) 22:30, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

US Flag Removed (from Nationality)

I added it yesterday, someone accepted the addition, now it has been removed from the article. Why...? / -: 70.238.221.233 (talk) 18:50, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Read the guideline WP:INFOBOXFLAG.--Don King's hair (talk) 19:12, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I never did read the guidelines; man, you nerds must be on 24 hour-a-day alert. ( -: There are lots of boxing articles with national flags displayed, you need to give those folks detention...

70.238.217.224 (talk) 21:02, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

What about his aviculture interests?

It seems he spends a great deal of time breeding doves these days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:908:E686:6F80:250:BFFF:FE91:1C5A (talk) 18:58, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Nicknames (infobox)

Shouldn't mentions of Tyson's nicknames in the infobox also appear and be properly cited somewhere in the article. MOS:INFOBOX#Purpose of an infobox says "When considering any aspect of infobox design, keep in mind the purpose of an infobox: to summarize key facts that appear in the article." H:IB#What should an infobox contain? says something similar. An infobox is not really intended to introduce new information about a topic, it can in certain cases when agreed upon by consensus, but when it does such information should be cited per WP:INFOBOXREF. Infoboxes for articles abut living people are also subject to WP:BLPSOURCES and WP:GRAPEVINE, which is quite clear about adding unsourced material to BLP articles. There are four nicknames mentioned in the infobox and they are as follows:

Baddest man on the planet is the only nickname mentioned in the infobox that is properly cited in the article: in the last sentence of Mike Tyson#Controversy and upset. It is supported by reference no. 59 in the article and reference no.2 in the infobox and it can be verified where these support the nickname, so this nickname is fine. I do, however, suggest moving reference no. 2 from the infobox to the nickname's mention in the article per "WP:INFOREF".

Iron Mike is not cited in the infobox, but it is indirectly mentioned within the article as the the name of Tyson's production company "Iron Mike Productions" in Mike Tyson#After professional boxing. This, however, is not sufficient to support that Tyson was called "Iron Mike" during his boxing career in my opinion and more direct support needs to be added. There are several references (nos. 15, 25 and 30) which also contain the name "Iron Mike" so it is possible to support the nickname one or all of them (no. 30 appears to be dead though). My suggestion is to add a sentence about the nickname to the article and then properly support it by one of these citations.

Kid Dynamite is only mentioned in the infobox. A source is given (reference no. 1), but it is apparently dead. The source is named "SI article on Mike Tyson" which could be any one of a number of SI article's on Tyson. The link just leads to a SI archived pages' search page. The only thing I found an SI archives' search of "Kid Dynamite" was this which does not satisfy WP:RS. I'll try to find the original SI article, but until a source can be found for this nickname, it should be removed from the infobox per "WP:BLPSOURCES". Once a source is found, the nicknames should be added to the article per and properly sourced.

Catskill Thunder (amateur) was the latest nickname added. Also does not appear in the article and also is not properly cited. Should be removed immediately per "WP:BLPSOURCES". However, like with "Kid Dynamite", if a reliable source is found to support this nickname, it can re-added to the article itself with the source.

I am going to hide the nicknames which seem to be problematic. This seems to be acceptable according to WP:HIDDEN#Appropriate uses for hidden text. They have not been deleted; only hidden, until the inclusion can be properly discussed or they are properly cited. This is done entirely in good faith and not meant to disrupt the article, so please discuss. Thanks in advance. - Marchjuly (talk) 22:52, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Note: The following was originally posted at User talk:Marchjuly#Mike Tyson's nicknames. It has been copied and pasted it here because it is a discussion specifically related to this article.

Do you really think that "Iron Mike" is not a commonly used nickname for Mike Tyson?--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 21:43, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the message SaskatchewanSenator. Actually, I do think it is, but what I think is not really relevant. I explained my reasons for hiding those nicknames at Talk:Mike Tyson#Nicknames (infobox). If you wish to further discuss this, then it's probably better to do so on the article's talk page.

- Marchjuly (talk) 00:09, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Actually, your knowledge of the subject is useful. If you believe material is likely correct and verifiable, but should have a reference, a better way to deal with it is to add a the Template:Citation needed.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 17:55, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks again for another reply SaskatchewanSenator. {{citation needed}} or similar templates are OK to add to articles or information which in not about a living person, but according to Template:citation needed#When not to use this template, that template is not to be used on BLP articles. Rather such information is to be removed immediately. WP:BLPSOURCES says basically the same thing so it is slightly more restrictive than WP:UNSOURCED. - Marchjuly (talk) 20:34, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

It says that the Citation needed template should not be used with contentious material in a BLP. It's appropriate to use the template in situations like this where the material is not contentious.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 00:04, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

That is true, but "contentious" on Wikipedia refers to anything that another editor might feel needs to be supported by a reliable source, doesn't it? It's my opinion that all of Tyson's nicknames should be supported by RSs. It's also my opinion that all the nicknames should be actually mentioned in the article body and cited there instead of in the inbox. I am not sure of the best way to do this, but please feel free to be bold if you know a good place to add that info. I've given my reasoning for my edit at Talk:Mike Tyson#Nicknames (infobox) and I really think that's where any further discussion on this should take place. Not trying to be a jerk about anything and I do appreciate your comments, but let's continue this at the article's talk page, OK? Thanks in advance. - Marchjuly (talk) 01:11, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Why do you think "contentious" has a different meaning on Wikipedia? I have no issue with your goals, I just think that removing that material from the article is not the best way to achieve them. If you want to move this discussion, I don't mind.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 23:18, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Isn't it possible that there are people who aren't as familiar with Tyson as you, and, therefore, might not be aware of all his nicknames? Someone could challenge a nickname and remove it. Would it be acceptable for an editor to re-add that info without providing a reliable source per WP:PROVEIT? If you feel it's OK to do so, then re-add it with a "citation needed" template. I do make mistakes and I don't revert when I'm wrong. If no one else reverts, then that means such information is not contentious. However, if a cn template is all it takes to keep something in a BLP article, then it seems to me that other editors could do the same with other info that was removed, excluding obvious vandalism, using the same logic you are using here. My interpretation of how to use that template might indeed be wrong, so please re-add the nickname(s) if you feel it is. I only suggest you briefly explain why on that talk page post, so other editors know why. Thanks again.

- Marchjuly (talk) 12:54, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Note: End of posts copied and pasted from User talk:Marchjuly#Mike Tyson's nicknames. - Marchjuly (talk) 20:49, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Oh my god this big debate and Mike's most well-known nickname Iron Mike is still not listed in the nicknames. In the time you spent on wikipedia rules pedantry and nickname removal you could have found 10,000 sources for this commonly accepted and widely known nickname. 129.174.236.67 (talk) 17:08, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the input 129.174.236.67. I have listed two possible sources already cited in the article which could possibly be used to cite Tyson's "Iron Mike" nickname. It's my opinion that all of Tyson's nicknames should be mentioned somewhere in the article, if possible, and cited there instead of just adding it to the infobox per WP:INFOBOXREF; however, this is just my opinion and I am exactly sure where the mention for "Iron Mike" would best fit in. If you know how to make it work, then please be bold add the information to the article and cite it with a reliable source. If you're not sure if the source you want to use is reliable or on how to word add the mention, then you can post it here first to give others a chance to comment if you want.

On the other hand, if you simply feel my edit was a mistake, then you can undo it. I only suggest that you leave an edit sum and if possible a comment on this talk page explaining your reasons why and the policies/guidelines supporting your edit so that myself and others know why you made the change.

- Marchjuly (talk) 21:41, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Update

I was able to find this source which I feel is reliable and which supports both the "Kid Dynamite" and "Iron Mike" nicknames. Since I have added information about Tyson's nicknames to the article's lead supported by this source, I have re-added both "iron Mike" and "Kid Dynamite" to the infobox. I still haven't found anything supporting "Catskill Thunder", so I did not re-add that to the infobox at this time. If anyone finds anything supporting that nickname, just add the information to the article and re-add the nickname to the infobox. - Marchjuly (talk) 02:48, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Is Beyond the Glory a reliable source?

I have put in a statement with the reference being an episode of Beyond the Glory. The episode is available online in several places, e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh_0KUt-wGQ

The episode includes video interviews with people who were there. Hence I assumed that the source would be considered reliable. Is that correct, and if not, why?

I ask because my edits have been reverted on the grounds that the source/claim was "dubious". 109.150.113.37 (talk) 21:14, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Interviews are primary sources. We rely on secondary sources here. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:17, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

What the above editor states about secondary sources is correct. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 21:23, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Your citation of policy does not seem to be correct. The policy that was cited says the following.

... a primary source ... is an artifact, a document, a recording, or other source of information that was created at the time under study.

And

Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources and primary sources. Secondary or tertiary sources are needed to establish the topic's notability and to avoid novel interpretations of primary sources.

My edits were consistent with that. 109.150.113.37 (talk) 21:28, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Possibly, but they weren't consistent with WP:BLPPRIMARY, which is quite clear on the matter.

Exercise extreme caution in using primary sources....Where primary-source material has been discussed by a reliable secondary source, it may be acceptable to rely on it to augment the secondary source...

--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 23:26, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the link to BLPPRIMARY, which I had not seen. I do not understand, though, why the interviews are primary sources. The above-quoted definition seems to require that primary sources be "created at the time under study"—in other words, at or shortly after the time that Tyson was in high school. The interviews were conducted many years afterwards. Additionally, the interviewees were not participants in Tyson's expulsion; rather, they lived/worked with him at the time. 109.150.113.37 (talk) 23:44, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Beyond the Glory is probably a reliable source. It would be helpful to know more about the material that you are using to support the changes you want to make. Who says it? Can you provide the time in the video or a transcription of the relevant material?--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 21:26, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

There are a few places, but watch especially the minute after 21:30.

Also note that the current reference (which claims that Tyson merely dropped out of high school) is to Jet magazine; that would seem to be less reliable than Beyond the Glory.

109.150.113.37 (talk) 22:33, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

I saw the statement from the interview with Teddy Atlas in that minute of the video. There are reasons to be very cautious about using him as a sole source for material about Tyson. If there is other relevant material in Beyond the Glory, please identify it.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 22:57, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

That is the main part. The other parts just add a bit of support, and none mention about 100 complaints from high school girls.

I just had a quick look at Tyson's autobiography, Undisputed Truth (which definitely is a primary source), but did not find anything about why Tyson left high school. The book does discuss the falling-out with Teddy, over Teddy's sister-in-law: Tyson blames himself, and is very positive about Teddy.

I am not sure what the overall conclusion should be here. Presumably, Beyond the Glory would have given Tyson a chance to rebut what Teddy said. 109.150.113.37 (talk) 18:32, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

I found two books that discuss why Tyson left high school: Bad Intentions: The Mike Tyson Story, by Peter Heller, and The Rise of Mike Tyson, Heavyweight, by William F. McNell. Heller (p.76-77) claims that Tyson was a major problem in high school, but does not give details; he says that Tyson would have been expelled, but agreed to drop out beforehand. McNell (p.100-101) says that Tyson was taunted by other students for poor scholastic performance, and that this was a major source of the problem; he says that the school wanted Tyson to leave, as did Cus D'Amato, and so Tyson did. Neither book mentions the claim by Teddy Atlas about complaints from girls.

Thinking about this further, Atlas' claim that there were over 100 complaints from girls seems implausible. The school would hopefully/surely not have allowed such harassment to go on that long.

109.150.182.46 (talk) 14:34, 31 January 2015 (UTC) [same editor as before]

Infobox - religion

Fellow Editors, a previous edit[1] to include a Religion field in the Infobox was reverted in good faith on the basis that the information was not sourced[2] (correct per WP:BLP). Looking through the sources that we already have for the article, I noticed these from New York Times & Fox News, which would seem reliable enough for inclusion of this information.

If there are no objections, I will re-add the information in the next couple of days. Comments & opinions are welcomed. - Ryk72 ^'c.s.n.s.' 13:20, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

On attempting to perform this edit, I noticed that the Template:Infobox boxer does not support a "religion" field. I will not, therefore, be making this change.

I will raise the question of whether the Template should be changed to include this field on the Template_talk:Infobox boxer page. - Ryk72 ^'c.s.n.s.' 01:51, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

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Taming the Beast by Holloway (2015)

I edited the article to include a recently-published book about Tyson, authored by Tyson's former manager; my edit was undone.[3] The given reason for undoing my edit was "spam". The reason is invalid, as anyone who was fair could see. Is there a valid reason for not including the book?
86.181.32.66 (talk) 19:58, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

When an IP with no edit history posts a link to a retail page for a self-published book, the post will be removed 99+% of the time. I note that Amazon shows no professional editorial reviews of the book. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 01:12, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I did not realize that the book was self-published. It said "RoughHouse Books" and I assumed that was a real publisher. I just now googled for them, though, and found essentially nothing other than this book.
I found some newspaper articles about the book: Chicago Tribune, Daily Mail, Daily Mirror, Daily Record, and Le Figaro, as well as Sporting News and news.com.au.
86.181.32.66 (talk) 06:57, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
Although the book is self-published, it is authored by someone who knew Tyson from Tyson's Brooklyn days and who later was Tyson's manager, for several years. Given that, and that the book is the subject of several articles in the media, it seems reasonable to include the book in the "Further reading" section (although I have not read the book myself). If anyone disagrees, kindly let me know.
86.181.32.66 (talk) 21:00, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

I have read this book. It exists, and has been cited/quoted, as mentioned above. So include it. George Custer's Sabre 04:31, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

@Slashme: The reason that you gave for undoing the edit is transparently invalid: the book manifestly is "tied into the rest of the article", and listing a relevant book hardly constitutes book promotion. Do you—or does anyone—have a valid reason? And why are you transparently biased against the book?
86.181.32.66 (talk) 08:14, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

@86.181.32.66: I think you're failing to assume good faith on my part. After reverting the change, I left this message at the talk page of the user who had added the paragraph, to help him to include the book as a reference into the article. My reasoning is not that the book isn't connected with the subject of the article: it clearly is. My concern was that creating a whole section of the article essentially just dealing with the book, and even including a link to a website devoted to the promotion of the book gives undue weight to it. Surely a book about Mike Tyson can be used to support the rest of this article's content (just add it as a reference), or if the book is significant in that it makes certain revelations about him, it could be referred to more thoroughly, for example:

"In his 2015 book "Taming the Beast"(here insert a reference to the book), Holloway claims that Mike Tyson has been an Origami enthusiast since the mid 1980s(here insert a reference to some reliable source that shows that this assertion is notable).

If you do this, the article will be better, and the book will be a welcome addition. --Slashme (talk) 18:55, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

I just want to clarify: I am not the one who initially added the book. I just affirmed that it was a real book and I added it again after Slashme deleted it for the first time. But I do agree with Slashme that it should be incorporated into the article better. Please do this, user 86.181.32.66, and I'm sure it will be left alone and not deleted again. Regards to you both, George Custer's Sabre 03:16, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

And thanks for your help as well! --Slashme (talk) 06:54, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

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We should add Category:Video game bosses due to Punch-out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.144.170.5 (talk) 13:34, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Suggest that this would not be a defining category for the article subject; on that basis, oppose addition of the category. - Ryk72 ^'c.s.n.s.' 13:43, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

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Religion Muslim 197.237.90.220 (talk) 09:51, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

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His other name

Added his adopted Muslim name, "Malik Abdul Aziz", to heading. With a source. HandsomeMrToad (talk) 00:07, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Adil beat Mike Tyson 1998 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.142.67.65 (talk) 13:14, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Speaking of Tyson's Muslim faith, I have noticed that there has been some interesting choice of phrasing in the "Personal life" section where it states: "Hakeem Olajuwon claims that during his incarceration, Tyson converted to Islam." There are videos of Tyson referencing his faith, in the ring, and in one of his Kimmel interviews and others. I remember seeing photos of him performing Hajj. Is there anyone willing to take up the task of including and expounding upon that facet in the article? If no one's interested, I'll likely look into doing so in the near future. – DA1 (talk) 03:34, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Rape conviction, prison, and conversion

Tyson was arrested in July 1991 for the rape of 18-year-old Desiree Washington, Miss Black Rhode Island, in an Indianapolis hotel room. Tyson's rape trial took place in the Marion County superior court from January 26, 1992 to February 10, 1992.<ref>{{cite news|last1=Shipp|first1=E. R.|title=Tyson Gets 6-Year Prison Term For Rape Conviction in Indiana|url=http://www.nytimes.com/1992/03/27/sports/tyson-gets-6-year-prison-term-for-rape-conviction-in-indiana.html?pagewanted=all|accessdate=26 January 2017|publisher=The New York Times|date=27 March 1992}}</ref> Tfrahm (talk) 23:51, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

--Tfrahm (talk) 23:51, 26 January 2017 (UTC) #1lib1ref

Done – ref added. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 23:59, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

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Ring

The Ring title went defunct after the Williams fight. Larry7o (talk) 23:08, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

"Latham Coliseum"

Hey, I noticed that the venue listed as the "Coliseum" in Latham, NY (where Tyson fought against Sterling Benjamin and a couple of other guys) actually does have a Wikipedia page. It's the Starlite Music Theatre, otherwise known as the Colonie Coliseum. This particular article is an orphan, so can an approved editor please link the "Coliseum" under Tyson's professional record to the Starlite Theatre? (Put "Starlite Music Theatre|Colonie Coliseum" between the double brackets) 68.5.231.50 (talk) 08:35, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

The Lead WP:LEAD

With Muhammad and other icons of boxing the stuff about them being the greatest (as with musicians) like Hendrix is in the first line--not all the way at the bottom. Mike Tyson is one of the greatest boxers of all time. He is a very special boxer. So we talk about Ali, Joe, and him... it needs more emphasis, put in on the first line, not waste time with specific fights. --169.0.4.34 (talk) 15:56, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

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Could you please change when he bit Holyfield's ears to ear in second paragraph. Thanks Carl datso (talk) 14:14, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Actually he did bite both ears during the fight. There's more information in the Evander Holyfield vs. Mike Tyson II article. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 15:33, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Amateur career

In case if somebody concerned would allow, I could arrange the "Amateur career" chapter by the following pattern: Carl_Williams_(boxer)#Amateur_career, Marvis_Frazier#Amateur_career, Riddick_Bowe#Amateur_boxing_career. 93.73.36.17 (talk) 21:19, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

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Change: Michael Gerard Tyson (born June 30, 1966) is an American former professional boxer who competed from 1985 to 2005. TO: Michael Gerard Tyson (born June 30, 1966) is an American former professional boxer who competed from 1985 to 2005 and convicted sex offender.

To put it in line with other articles like for example Bill Cosby's. 91.141.1.238 (talk) 12:14, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Not done. Please establish a consensus for this change before making this edit request. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 13:36, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Fight 34 v Tony Tubbs.

Fight 34 v Tony Tubbs. The IBF were not involved with this fight. Tyson didn't retain the IBF as he would not have lost it had he lost the fight. Tubbs would not have won the IBF if he had won the fight. One cannot be said to have retained a belt if its not available or possible to be lost. Suggest notes: Retained WBA and WBC heavyweight titles — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.187.173.193 (talk) 08:47, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

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Change:

" After his release in 1995, he engaged in a series of comeback fights. He won the WBC and WBA titles in 1996…"

to:

"After his release in 1995, he engaged in a series of comeback fights. He won the WBC and WBA titles in 1996…"

This should fix the monospacing in said paragraph. FavoritoHJS (talk) 18:52, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Done – Thjarkur (talk) 19:24, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Adding "left hook" punch to Tyson's favorite techniques at end of Rise to Stardom section

"Among his signature moves was a right hook to his opponent's body followed by a right uppercut to his opponent's chin. Lorenzo Boyd, Jesse Ferguson and José Ribalta were each knocked down by this combination."

Along with a powerful left hook, one of his signature moves was a right hook to his opponent's body followed by a right uppercut to his opponent's chin. Lorenzo Boyd, Jesse Ferguson and José Ribalta were each knocked down by this combination.

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please change

A joint Mainland China-Hong Kong-directed film on female friendship titled Girls 2: Girls vs Gangsters (Vietnamese: Girls 2: Những Cô Gái và Găng Tơ) that was shoots earlier from July–August 2016 on several locations around Vietnam was released in March 2018, featuring Tyson as "Dragon".[175][176]

to

A joint Mainland China-Hong Kong-directed film on female friendship titled Girls 2: Girls vs Gangsters (Vietnamese: Girls 2: Những Cô Gái và Găng Tơ) that was shot earlier from July–August 2016 at several locations around Vietnam was released in March 2018, featuring Tyson as "Dragon".[175][176]

because of grammar 69.63.11.202 (talk) 10:08, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Done Rummskartoffel (talk) 10:21, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Small problem

Hi, Id fix this myself, however, I do not have a proper account since I generally only fix small mistakes like this, and this page is locked. In the last part of exhibitions at the start of Mike Tyson Vs Roy Jones Jr it states "It was announced in July 2020 that Jones had signed a contract to face former four-division world champion, Roy Jones Jr." I believe it should state "It was announced in July 2020 that Tyson had signed a contract to face former four-division world champion, Roy Jones Jr." thank you all for your time. 2601:183:8480:4600:2462:E0A3:118F:9BF7 (talk) 18:58, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Done – ².O.^Boxing 19:01, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Early days images

Tyson being a culturally significant personality, some images of him from the 1980s/1990s would be worthwhile—even better, an action shot of him in the ring. Anyone able to pursue this? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 20:26, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

"He holds the third longest unified championship reign in heavyweight boxing history at 8 consecutive defenses"

It's the sixth longest according to [[6]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8108:1640:2538:407C:46D9:262:B1A2 (talk) 11:51, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Mike's first nickname?

Little known fact... Mike's first nickname during his early Upstate New York bouts was Catskill Clubber. Thanks for everything, Mike. You're the greatest! CatskillClubber (talk) 11:57, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to update his page or if that's even possible. It says it is protected from vandalism. CatskillClubber (talk) 12:07, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

CatskillClubber, you'll need to provide a reliable source that states that was his nickname. Otherwise, it'll just remain a "little known fact". – ².O.^Boxing 12:30, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

During one of the times I watching all of Mike's bouts in chronological order, I heard a commentator say it. I searched for it online and found 2 books that backed it up. That was a few years ago but I'll never forget hearing the commentator say it. CatskillClubber (talk) 12:48, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Found it. The Rise of Mike Tyson, Heavyweight by William McNeil. Also, The Bite Fight: Tyson, Holyfield and the Night That Changed Boxing Forever Book by George Willis. CatskillClubber (talk) 12:52, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

He has also been referred to as such in many stories in local newspapers in Upstate New York during the mid 80's. For example - Greene County News on Thursday , November 20th, 1986. There is a picture of him and Muhammad Ali and captioned below it refers to him as The Catskill Clubber. CatskillClubber (talk) 13:03, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Also in The Daily Mail many times... like on Thursday, August 6th, 1987 on page 9 where the local paper discussed his fight with Tony Tucker... once again referring to Mike by his first nickname The Catskill Clubber. CatskillClubber (talk) 13:29, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

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he was inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame in 2012 this was not added i wish to add it Retewoplk (talk) 10:50, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 12:29, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

It's already in Mike Tyson in popular culture#World Wrestling Federation/WWE--Jahalive (talk) 20:05, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Its also mentioned within the article itself too under the awards. Do a Control + F to locate it. Dcdiehardfan (talk) 06:59, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

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Where it says regained heavyweight titles, Tyson fury needs to be added Jfinch98 (talk) 02:49, 7 October 2021 (UTC) Tyson fury needs to be added to regained heavyweight titles

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Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:26, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

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change the date from 202 to 2022 in popular culture section; "A two-part documentary series titled Mike Tyson: The Knockout premiered on May 25, 202, on ABC" 121.200.5.224 (talk) 09:14, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:05, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Subject of his height-

Before some of his fights, for example the Mike Jameson fight on 1986-01-24, Tyson's height was listed at 5'11. 216.115.227.189 (talk) 04:24, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

I vote for putting his tale of the tape height compared to 5 ft 10 in. He was listed as 5 ft 11 in against Lennox Lewis. BlizzyBlizz (talk) 19:25, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Why is rape the first sentence?

I don’t understand why the first line first paragraph is a rape conviction. The article should start with his early life, then move on to his career, then personal life where criminal conviction(s) can be discussed.

I don’t see why the rape conviction should be the first thing, it’s neither the most notable thing about him nor chronologically coherent.

Is there a reason for this, or is it just political nonsense? 159.196.168.247 (talk) 22:10, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

It's the first line of the second paragraph, and aside from the heavyweight boxing covered in the first paragraph, is the most notable thing. Excalibur227 (talk) 09:48, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Too clarify, whether or not it is true (I don't know enough details) a rape conviction should always be high on a page. Excalibur227 (talk) 09:53, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

That sounds like an attempt to "correct" this subject's popularity, as opposed to something that's truly noteworthy. It's not why he's famous, is it? The lead should accurately summarize the article contents, and indicate why he's notable. This IMO doesn't belong in the lead; just in the body. DFlhb (talk) 06:38, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

That video game

How about his “appearance” in a very popular video game, along with his removal? Not worthy in a bio about Tyson? 2600:1700:343A:9250:40DB:2316:9BE1:4CA5 (talk) 19:10, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

It's there. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 22:03, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

His name

I think Malik Abdul Aziz, his Muslim name should be added. 2001:8F8:1339:BE4F:79A3:91CE:C8FB:A447 (talk) 12:01, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello. Just stopping by to drop this note: this is an urban legend that somehow survived for nearly 30 years despite being denied by Tyson's lawyers from day 1. Mike never changed his name to Malik Abdul Aziz or anything else.

page 234: "By the spring of 1993, rumors circulated to the effect that Tyson had converted to Islam and was changing his name to Malik Abdul Aziz. His lawyer, Alan Dershowitz, denied both parts of the rumor.42 Although he chose not to change his name, Tyson did become a Muslim."

page 299 of "Heavy Justice" notes that Tyson's lawyers denied the rumors of a name change.

I'm also not seeing any instances in which he did not use his given name Mike Tyson. - Hunan201p (talk) 11:00, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Mike Tyson Became MUSLIM

He’s not orthodox, He’s a Muslim and follower of ISLAM 2.99.185.241 (talk) 04:02, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Tigers

Tyson is not just known for his boxing accomplishments/skills, but also his unique personality and personal life. I think he had tigers as pets, but cannot find this in the article. Should we add it? --2001:1C06:19C9:400:5994:1AC3:C39B:D498 (talk) 22:00, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

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Mike Tyson is Muslim and follows Islam. He said by himself in many videos and he’s not Orthodox anymore 2.99.185.241 (talk) 04:09, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 04:29, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Article already mentions in several places that he's a Muslim and follows Islam, so this whole edit request is pointless anyway. --2001:1C06:19C9:400:5994:1AC3:C39B:D498 (talk) 22:04, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Citizenship

He received Saudi Arabian citizensip. He is now American/Saudi.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-saudi-arabia-grants-mike-tyson-citizenship-after-mere-hours-in-the-country-amid-sportswashing-accusations/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.241.0.111 (talk) 03:56, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

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In Mike Tyson’s article it says he was born in 1966, but then it says that he is 56 years old. If he was born in 1966 then he is 66 years old. The page needs to be changed so that it says Mike Tyson is 66 years of age. 209.124.57.13 (talk) 20:49, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Not done: your calculation is wrong. M.Bitton (talk) 22:35, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Revert

I realise my edit summary is incorrect, I was having a divy moment. However, I still stand by the removal; the forum post--with or without the tag--is not usable. I've found that the original analysis was provided for the launch of the game Mike Tyson Heavyweight Boxing, in June 2002.[7] The Free Library source gives the publication as The People (which I assume is The Sunday People?) and is dated to June 2002. This looks like it was just a promotional blurb-type thing. – ².O.^Boxing 13:10, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

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"This knockout loss was the only loss Holmes had in 75 professional bouts."

Change to This knockout was 1 of 6 losses Holmes had in 75 professional bouts"

As this is accurate to Holmes' actual fighting record. McNash09 (talk) 18:04, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Done partially – re-worded to reflect Holmes's only knockout loss. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 18:18, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Bleacher Report

BR is not a reliable source for the Legacy section, as it does not specialise in boxing Billsmith60 (talk) 11:12, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Legacy

The 'Legacy' section states that Mike Tyson beat Tony Tucker by knockout. This is incorrect. Tyson beat Tucker via a unanimous points decision. Suggest this is changed to 'which included knockouts of ...... Tony Tubbs... .' Bisto27 (talk) 10:35, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Done – reworded to omit "... knockouts of ..." Mac Dreamstate (talk) 16:39, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

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Change Mike Tyson’s height from 5’10 to 5’11.5 since in all his bouts that is the height he is listed as 92.19.30.90 (talk) 20:39, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Not done – that's already clarified with the note. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 22:01, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Early Life

@Squared.Circle.Boxing: I disagree with your reverts. His religion would go best after the family info but definitely not in the first sentence. If anything, the first sentence should state that he's African-American. Mabelist (talk) 17:23, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

The wording in question is into a Catholic family, so is appropriately placed. I see no reason to change it. – ².O.^Boxing 20:30, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Change it to "He was raised Catholic" and it would be appropriate elsewhere. Nearly all Early Life sections do not mention religion in the first sentence. Mabelist (talk) 21:29, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

3O comment: @Mabelist and Squared.Circle.Boxing: After first reviewing the sources and not finding a mention of him being Catholic (no access to the publication), I searched and found an old Jet article about his marriage ceremony with Robin Givens in a Catholic church. After reviewing her article and the article of Joe Biden (a notable Catholic American), it seems that the mention of religion can appear fairly early in the article, but should be introduced a little later than how this current article is structured. My recommendation: Michael Gerard Tyson was born in Fort Greene, Brooklyn, New York City on June 30, 1966. Raised an African American Catholic, he has an older brother named Rodney (born c. 1961) and had an older sister named Denise, who died of a heart attack at age 24 in February 1990. Feel free to share your thoughts on this and don't be afraid to ping!--WMrapids (talk) 03:12, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Your recommendation is better than the current article. Another suggestion is moving his religion to the end of the paragraph: "He was raised Catholic." He also converted to Islam as an adult, maybe that should be mention as well. Mabelist (talk) 19:33, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

@Squared.Circle.Boxing: Any thoughts? WMrapids (talk) 04:27, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

As long as his Catholic background actually remains in the article, then it's placement isn't an issue for me. African American should be left out for two reasons: 1) there's a picture of him, 2) I assume you'll both agree one isn't raised as an African American; you either are or you aren't (woke identity nonsense can be left at the door, cheers). I've never seen African American in Early life without some additional context. Conversion to Islam also shouldn't be in there unless there's sources specifically stating he converted in that part of his life; best I've heard is 'before prison', which doesn't quite qualify. – ².O.^Boxing 08:20, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

I'm wondering if a more appropriate option would be to move his Catholic upbringing and the paragraph about his conversion into 'Personal life'. Having them separated does seem a bit silly, especially when his conversion is tucked away in 'Rape trial and prison'. – ².O.^Boxing 19:46, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

I agree with moving his catholic upbringing and Islam conversion to Personal Life to keep it in organized. His conversion is currently only mentioned in the Rape trial and prison section. When I removed the Catholic info in the first edit, I was not finished editing and planned to move it elsewhere in the section until it was reverted back. I don't think African-American should be included either, was only using as an example. Mabelist (talk) 01:13, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

@Mabelist and Squared.Circle.Boxing: Take a look at this edit and let me know how you feel.--WMrapids (talk) 07:40, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Does look better than before. Seems a bit out of place where it is though. What's both your thoughts on adding it directly onto the Islam paragraph, Raised as a Catholic, Tyson converted to Islam sometime before the 1990s. It was widely reported that he converted while in prison and adopted the Muslim name Malik Abdul Aziz, and tweak the rest of the paragraph to fit. Not that exact wording, but along those lines. – ².O.^Boxing 13:04, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes, moving it to the Islam paragraph would look better. Also, Tyson stated that he was a Muslim before prison.^[1] Mabelist (talk) 20:59, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

@Mabelist and Squared.Circle.Boxing: Alright, take a look here.--WMrapids (talk) 06:48, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

No complaints here. Looks good to me. – ².O.^Boxing 11:40, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Looks great. I moved around the sentences if that's alright. Link Mabelist (talk) 21:59, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

References

^ Brown, Ann (June 14, 2021). "Remembering When Mike Tyson Converted To Islam: 7 Things For Black America To Know". Moguldom. Archived from the original on December 21, 2022. "I was Muslim before I went in (prison). My chauffeur was in there (the Nation of Islam) — Captain Joe. He would educate me every day, every second," Tyson said in an interview with Charlie Mack for the "Brotherly Love" show on the YouTube channel FightHype.com on June 20, 2020.

Mike Tyson as a philosopher

When you watch Mike Tyson on podcasts like his own or other interviews right he speaks like a philosopher can we possibly add a section about this it would seem reasonable some philosophers reject that title e.g Khalil Gibran. The Duke of Mars (talk) 21:31, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

The bottom line for us here is whether there are reliable, independent sources that discuss Tyson as a philsopher. That is what we build our encyclopedic content from. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 21:39, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

several podcasts interviews articles and podcasts about his miindset and views on life so I guess it wouldn't be a bad assumption. The Duke of Mars (talk) 18:22, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Per WP:SYNTH, we are not allowed to put our assumptions into an article. You have to find content from reliable sources that clearly expound upon this aspect of Tyson. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 18:26, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

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Mr. Tyson appears in the 2023 film "Once Within a Time" directed by Godfrey Reggio and Jon Kane.

Link: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt28352066/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm 67.79.14.2 (talk) 21:53, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Per WP:IMDB, IMDb is not a reliable source, and this page doesn't qualify under the two exceptions listed at WP:CITEIMDB. Liu1126 (talk) 10:37, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

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In the "In Popular Culture" Section, regarding Mike Tyson's role in Ip Man 3, change "With Donnie Yen reprising his role as the titular character, Bruce Lee's martial arts master, Ip Man, while Mike Tyson has been confirmed to join the cast.", as it is written in such a way which would suggest that the announcement had just been made, whereas the movie and announcement came out in 2015. Mr Ampelmann (talk) 05:00, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. How should this be rewritten then? -- Pinchme123 (talk) 03:45, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

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In the legal section: instead of Mike Tyson was accused of donating money to the Israeli Defense Forces—

Mike Tyson was criticized by some for donating money to the Israeli Defense Forces.

This should not be written as a sequiter to the previous accusation of rape as if they’re on the same scale. 2601:240:C402:1700:854B:7EB4:56A5:4428 (talk) 00:54, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

done RWILDONLINE ✉ 16:07, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

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In the Controversies and legal challenges section there's absolutely nothing about the 1992 rape conviction. Please amend, since it's the biggest of the "legal challenges" he's faced 153.92.121.230 (talk) 00:06, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

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Mike was also in an Eminem video

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mike Tyson has an appearance in Godzilla by Eminem (ft. juice WRLD) here's the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_0JjYUe5jo .he appears around the 3.00 mark Seb editor 12 (talk) 04:09, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Done – added new section. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 18:32, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Mike Tyson was in The Hangover

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He played himself in the 2009 movie The Hangover, where the guys had stolen his Tiger and he showed up at their hotel to get the Tiger back as well as when they finally show up at his house he proceeds to show them his security system cameras.

See Cast list on Google. https://www.google.com/search?q=the+hangover&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS795US795&oq=the+hangover&aqs=chrome..69i57j46i67i433i512i650j0i67i512i650l2j0i67i433i512i650j46i67i433i512i650j46i67i512i650l2j0i67i433i512i650j0i512.2545j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#wptab=si:AKbGX_pdKZ2aImOX4iClatj4MUUcJH3UAn06I4n4vwyWsCLA5i5gUDavrK5TCIr_BZ6aOS0gCEDduzjkLf5b_pEQ3aoulRmZ6WPBmG0UH4j-sypD9YXCbHMFCQPGnaGzJx5lwTHZr49p

Youtube 5 minute video of Mike in the Movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9NtxDYU8G4 71.213.183.36 (talk) 20:35, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Done – Added to Filmography section. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 20:47, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Mike Tyson was also in The Hangover Part II

Mike Tyson shows up at the very end of the film as Himself, Singing at Stu and his new wife's wedding as a gift from Alan.

Cast List: https://www.google.com/search?q=the+hangover+part+2&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS795US795&oq=the+hangover+part+2&aqs=chrome..69i57j46i512j0i20i263i512j46i512j0i512l6.3497j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#wptab=si:AKbGX_pdKZ2aImOX4iClatj4MUUcJH3UAn06I4n4vwyWsCLA5i5gUDavrK5TCIr_BZ6aOS3NQ7PYNhCrmA3C5O_nWEKUavAgqk1KHU2wuPuiYD-PBw8GVhOjYNjLnAKT48Pp5XohPNHGeReToLc8SVdQtvsG978DBA%3D%3D

Youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKNMILul1v0 Tcranston2644 (talk) 21:21, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Mike Tyson was convicted of rape in 1992

This seems to be missing from the legal section 159.196.142.53 (talk) 08:31, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

It's in a section in the middle of his boxing career, but probably would be useful to be duplicated in the Legal section. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 19:00, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

[1] Brown, Ann (June 14, 2021). "Remembering When Mike Tyson Converted To Islam: 7 Things For Black America To Know". Moguldom. Archived from the original on December 21, 2022. "I was Muslim before I went in (prison). My chauffeur was in there (the Nation of Islam) — Captain Joe. He would educate me every day, every second," Tyson said in an interview with Charlie Mack for the "Brotherly Love" show on the YouTube channel FightHype.com on June 20, 2020.

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