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Shankill butchers

ok, there's no problem in reverting if I'm wrong about things but you should check some of the points made. Regards, 14:29, 27 May 2009 (UTC) bigpad (talk) 14:32, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Robert Bates (loyalist)

Thanks for creating this article! I was wondering about some further citation, especially about the freeing under the agreement. Most prisoners were released post 1998. How did Bates get released before the agreement was signed. His death occurred almost eight month be for the signing. This looks rather inconsistent if not infactual. Mootros (talk) 16:00, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi, you are quite right and thank you for pointing this out. I'll correct the error.

Billsmith60 (talk) 19:48, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I think what happened was that he was released on parole in preparation for the signing of the agreement. But because he was killed before the actual signing he didn't fall under the general release. Or could there have been another way why he was out, especially since there no parole option for him? Or there any citations how this was overturned? Many thanks! Mootros (talk) 09:08, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

That's along the right lines: it's wasn't through the Agreement that he was released (on parole/licence), I'd say, but through the confidence-buildings measures, esp. proposed prisoner releases, that were flagged up from an early date as being a prerequisite for paramilitary support of any agreement that might be made. But finding a citation for this will be v. difficult! Billsmith60 (talk) 10:58, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

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Davy Payne

Billsmith, thank you for pointing out my error. Feel free to edit anything I wrote that you believe is incorrect. I appreciate your information. It appears that Payne and White were the UFF's main operators in the Shankill Road area. But as you rightly pointed out, Payne was not the second-in-command of the entire group, just the Shankill brigade. What do you think of the article as it now stands?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:40, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Robin Jackson

Thanks for the additions to the article. I added the urls as you requested, but I cannot seem to get them to show on the page (just the blue number). I have never been able to figure out how to do urls.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:47, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

William McGrath (loyalist)

Hi there. In this edit [1], you post some content that could easily be considered defamatory in the biography of a living person. You cite this [2] source, which really doesn't back up the claims you make. Any negative edits to a BLP needs to be backed up, in their entirety, by sources. Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 03:21, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Manners

Yes, please stop your tiresome reverts and act constructively. Thanks, Billsmith60 (talk) 13:25, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me, BillSmith! I don't know if you've edited Wikipedia very long, but there are guidelines here as to how to behave when communicating with your fellow editors. Insulting them and not assuming good faith is not considered proper conduct.

In retort, it was not I who reverted your edits in the first place, but rather you who reverted my edits - with no explanation! One might consider that practice to be "tiresome". In the future, perhaps you might like to engage in dialogue with an editor instead of merely reverting edits for no apparent reason. --86.12.24.209 (talk) 15:04, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Ok, fair enough. Do you think it is good manners to do a number of edits, all of which were reversed by a vigilant editor (thank goodness), under the edit summary "The sky is blue"? No one will take you seriously if you act in this way. I think "RepublicanJacobite" has explained things sufficiently well to you. You can clearly make a constructive contribution to Wiki, if you choose. Please do so! Regards, Billsmith60 (talk) 13:11, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Again, by informing me of my ability to make a constructive contribution, you are implying that I chose specifically not to in the case of the edits you, 'O Fenian' and RepublicanJacobite seem to have problems with. In that sense you have not assumed good faith and I can assure you the edits were made in good faith by the fact that there was precedent iwht regard other, similar articles.

And yes - I do think it is good manners to do a number of reverts with an edit comment explaining a Wikipedia guideline. Here is the guideline in question, if you care to read it: WP:FACTS. I also think I have explained things sufficiently well to both yourself and RepublicanJacobite. --86.12.24.209 (talk) 21:09, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

John McMichael

Hello Billsmith, I have just added an infobox to the John McMichael article. Would you happen to know his date and place of birth? Thank you.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:46, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi there, I don't know [his DOB] off hand but will see what I can find out. As he was 38 when he died in late 1987, he's very likely to have been born in 1949. He was from Lisburn, that I'm quite sure of, and owned a bar there for some years. Regards, Billsmith60 (talk) 20:52, 4 December 2010 (UTC). Billsmith60 (talk) 20:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Bill.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:17, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Paramilitary / Member of a paramilitary

Altho it's sometimes used in the press, the sentence "Joe is a paramilitary" is wrong. It's the same as saying "Joe is a military", "Joe is an army", "Joe is a navy" or "Joe is an airforce". Like a military, a paramilitary is an organization. Thus, the proper wording would be "Joe is a member of a paramilitary". ~Asarlaí 14:04, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Davy Payne

I just uploaded the Davy Payne file, but it's been tagged with a Speedy Deletion tag.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:31, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

The Eagle

At the junction of Spier's Place and the Shankill, there's mural dedicated to Frenchie Marchant. I am awed by your knowledge of the Belfast UVF. Was Ken Gibson the UVF Chief of Staff prior to Bunter?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:46, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Jim Hanna

Hi Bill, I raised a question over on Talk:Jim Hanna (loyalist).--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:30, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Parroting Dillon on Lennie Murphy

Yes I was, unfortunately I read it more than a decade ago and don't have the book to check which is his stuff. It can't be left as it is, he is going to have to be mentioned "Martin Dillon writes". If he is not mentioned the text is going to have to be paraphrased or deleted, Or you could just revert it to the way it was before I tried to edit it. Or alter it to what you think is better. Whatever you do is fine by me.Overagainst (talk) 15:01, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

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Samson and Goliath (cranes)

Photo wasn't quite working on the page and i'm not sure it was really needed - but you're welcome to redo with it sized correctly...! BNStudios1 (talk) 00:24, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Fair enough! It's a nice perspective on the cranes, so I'll see if I can zoom in on them Billsmith60 (talk) 10:35, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

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Re: Nominating articles for GA

Hello. I carefully read over WP:GAI to find more about the process, and there's no clear definition of how much "contributed significantly" is. And for the record, both the Prost and Kasparov articles are former featured articles. If there is something more I was expected to do besides resolving the issues that led to the articles being demoted, I'd appreciate if you could tell me :) Dallavid (talk) 19:48, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello, that's fair enough regarding the Kasparov article nomination staying live, for it's clear that you intend to do what you can to improve it. Talk on https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Good_article_nominations was that you had *just done enough prior to nominating the Prost one. I didn't agree but that's academic now. As to why those articles dropped from FA, I don't know but did see that the GK one had loads of "citations needed" tags that evidently didn't help. It is *possible that wider national interest or self-interest had a part to play, but I'm merely speculating. I'm primarily an editor who's new to the GA process, so all I could do was assess GK and, independently of any previous assessments, develop the set of requirements you've already begun work on. That said, I'd have been disappointed if the two messy politjcal sections had survived the FA process. As you may have noted, I'll do a final run-through edit if the major issues are fixed. Good luck! All the best, Billsmith60 (talk) 20:32, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello Billsmith, I wanted to give you an update on the Kasparov article. I have been working on a number of improvements and I had hoped to have it completed by now, but unfortunately this week has been very busy. I'm sure I can have everything ready by Monday at the latest. Is that alright with you? --Dallavid (talk) 20:04, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

That's no problem at all. It may be Tuesday before I can get back to this anyhow, so take your time. Thanks for the update Billsmith60 (talk) 22:03, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello again. The edits are now complete. --Dallavid (talk) 19:03, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

That's great, thanks. I'll review it in the morning Billsmith60 (talk) 20:16, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for all of your help to improve the Garry Kasparov article, it wouldn't have turned out well as it has without your insightful feedback. :)

I had added some more sentences of key facts to Kasparov's lead that I noticed were missing, and also because I felt the lead should've had some more text about chess. Would you mind reviewing if the additions still meet GA standards? Dallavid (talk) 00:10, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello again. I've tweaked the Lead to remove the Topalov game, as it's only one of many memorable encounters, and to bring up the FIDE leadership bid to keep all the chess stuff together - other than the books bit which follows it immediately. All the best Billsmith60 (talk) 13:19, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

I had thought the Topalov game, which is often considered the greatest chess game ever played,[3] was no less noteworthy than the Deep Blue game, which is mentioned in the lead, so it had seemed like something important that belonged in the lead. --Dallavid (talk) 21:34, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello, the greatest game ever is POV and highly subjective, while a match between the WC and a computer is something else – hence why it's in and the Topalov game not! Also, you may not know that Wikipedia frowns on "best ever" type statements. All the best Billsmith60 (talk) 21:53, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

I wasn't proposing to call it the greatest game ever, just showing why it is very significant. Also, do you think the sentence about running for FIDE president should be moved to the fourth paragraph (about organization positions), since it has nothing to do with playing chess (second paragraph)? There are FIDE presidents that were never even professional chess players. --Dallavid (talk) 20:32, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I think the FIDE presidency fits well where it is, occurring during his retirement and still part of the main chess sections of the Lead Billsmith60 (talk) 20:57, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

And, to be clear, the Topalov game is only one of thousands and not meriting a mention in the Lead Billsmith60 (talk) 20:59, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

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Maps on Williamite War in Ireland

Hello I was wondering if you might be interested in the two maps of Ireland used in the above article. If you are, please look at the talk page where Ive tried to engage a writer on reverting those maps to the one that was originally in the article. The original map shows geographic features and the current maps show a political boundary that didnt take place for several hundred years in the future. I feel those maps give the reader an incorrect view, the writer in question refuses to discuss the issue and reverted my change without any prior discussion.

Thanks for any help you might provide.Palisades1 (talk) 13:21, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Hello again. Thanks for your help on the Williamite War page. I took a look at the Williamite War in Ireland: Revision history and see that the original (and far better) map was removed by Svejk74 at 12:14 12 July 2019 with the following edit summary: The 1688-9 Campaign in Ulster:reorg. In my opinion the current maps are totally out of place and the original should be replaced. As you know there was no discussion prior to the removal of the map. Ive spent enough time on this and think the only solution is to file a conflict resolution request. What do you think?Palisades1 (talk) 16:03, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Ernie O'Malley resumed

Dear Billsmith60, I am back and on the talk. Thanks for your patience and the improvements you put in during my absence. I am reading through them. Greetings, Johannes Schade (talk) 13:40, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Your reversion of my edit regarding Garry Kasparov's federation

Hi – you reverted this edit I made] to the article on Garry Kasparov with the edit summary "longstanding issue well discussed on Talk". But everything I can find about this on the talk page (and its archives) comes to the opposite conclusion: Talk:Garry Kasparov#Russian v. Azerbaijani, Talk:Garry Kasparov/Archive 2#Croatian citizenship, Talk:Garry Kasparov/Archive 2#Croatian?, Talk:Garry Kasparov/Archive 2#Croatia. I don't see a single argument there for adding Croatia, let alone a consensus. Please indicate what you were referring to. I'd appreciate if we could resolve this quickly. Joriki (talk) 17:36, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello, my apologies. You were correct: the relevant Talk article shows that. Regards and thanks Billsmith60 (talk) 00:00, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

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Congratulations. I apologise for my handling of Criterion 2a, the citations. As you realised I do not know much about Wikipedia's citation styles and what might or might not be considered inconsistant. I should have handled that better. I wonder whether you plan to go for FA. Please let me know. I might not participate, but as I know your article now quite well, I would certainly be able to learn a lot from how the big FA guns see your work. Best regards, Johannes Schade (talk) 17:16, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Undo on Liz Truss

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New Biography

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In case you don't know already, but there's a new biography about Liam Lynch called Liam Lynch: To Declare a Republic. I know you frequently contribute to the article on Lynch so I thought this would be up your street. Though I don't possess a copy, the reviews I've read say it's quite good. Earle Bartibus Huxley (talk) 11:10, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

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John Higgins non-ranking finals section

Hello how are you doing ?. Can you add a runners-up finish to Higgins homepage please ?. Judd Trump beat Higgins 5-1 in the final of the Huangguoshu Open in china this morning. It is in the other events section in the 23/24 snooker season. Can you add this to Higgins page please ?.

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Hello, I don't edit such level of detail because I use my phone, mostly. But I'm sure someo enthusiast will get to this soon enough. Is the Higgins' page protected against editing by non-registered persons, otherwise you should go ahead yourself. Regards Billsmith60 (talk) 16:19, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

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Sorry if the edit summary for the undoing was a little blunt/terse (accidentally clicked 'send' midway through the summary). Since when have the BBC been experts in criminology even though they'll likely have touted "expert" opinions upon one programme? It is a single opinion which goes against a multitude of authors' opinions and the consensus. You can see ample counterarguments for Kosminski being Tabram's murderer or the DNA as sourcing from him. He is just one of many suspects through the mists of time. The DNA reportedly identified as belonging to him upon Eddowes's shawl is disputed because the document's origins are dubious, the garment was not, even latterly, subject to appropriate forensic preservation prior to testing, and the copper who is alleged to have taken the garment at the time worked with North London police if memory serves me correct. Basically, theories from a single source shouldn't be given predominance. Kieronoldham (talk) 21:19, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

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Garry Kasparov

Hey, I made an edit to the Garry Kasparov page and you undid it, can you please explain why? Chijioke2007 (talk) 09:53, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello. As the edit summary says, your edit was point of view and in the wrong section. This article has passed the Good Article process and requires no significant additions. Of course, it can always be improved but not as you've done. Regards Billsmith60 (talk) 12:50, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

I don't understand what you mean by "point of view" and please how was it in the wrong section? I used what I saw in pages of other World Champions like Mikhail Tal and Vasily Smyslov as a guideline when I was writing it, so I thought there were no problems Chijioke2007 (talk) 13:52, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

I just thought it would be nice for there to be a collection of some of Kasparov's best games on his page as some of the other World Champions Chijioke2007 (talk) 14:03, 31 March 2024 (UTC)