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Naming policy problem

At this point this has become an annual problem, why do some editors (old and new) fail to understand or follow the set guidelines by WP:COMMONNAME? It has been said time and time again not to change it because that's what the organization uses but still editors put it that way for some reason. I already put a reminder just in case. Milesq (talk) 17:01, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In relation to this, do we think the footnotes indicating what name they are competing as necessary? Because some countries that use a different sash like USA don't have this yet some like DR Congo and Guinea do. Personally I think its a bit irrelevant, not to mention Wikipedia is not a repository for what the official information of the pageant is. With how this is going right now, we might end up having to put these in every year just because yet again a pageant fan pushes to use what the MUO uses; and that in itself is mundane and tedious with how repetitive it is. Asking for some answers from fellow editors that way we can establish a proper consensus with this. @Allyriana000, @LikeRealTimes @Sciencefish Milesq (talk) 18:10, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This problem also affects the Binibining Pilipinas articles to be honest. However, in the case of Miss Universe, I personally think if push comes to shove, we have to do a footnote for every country that will be affected by WP:COMMONNAME. As much as we try to warn these users about changing the country's names to fit the candidates' sashes, someone would still do it. Allyriana000 (talk) 02:41, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Allyriana000 and just right now we had another incident of a user pushing the said names despite the footnotes. I don't want to go and reprimand every user that does as it may result in hounding the users, but at the same time the encyclopedic quality of the article is heavily compromised. I do suggest we make a general footnote instead? As adding too may footnotes may make it look very clunky in return. Milesq (talk) 07:04, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ThaA general footnote would be better rather than having a separate footnote for every country. Allyriana000 (talk) 10:22, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No footnotes needed. To me it's obvious who they are representing - you click the link it takes you to the appropriate pageant. Put a comment at the top of the table to follow wikipedia MOS, not the pageant conventions. Sciencefish (talk) 07:46, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What about Other Asean Countries to debuts on Miss Universe like: Brunei and Timor-Leste. But we need that.. PickMe10 (talk) 20:35, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Gambia 2023-24

The newly crowned Miss Universe Gambia is Glorious Haddijatou Njie and Gambia returns to participate at 73rd Miss Universe Competition.

See the Miss Gambia Wikipedia. 112.198.209.49 (talk) 12:34, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pakistan, Serbia, Bahrain pageants

Can someone add Pakistan, Serbia & Bahrain in the upcoming national pageants to July 2024? Their organization announced that their finals will be in July 2024 but they still don't have a certain date. Catia108 (talk) 09:33, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A proper source needs to be provided first before adding it (WP:PROVEIT). Only then it can be added into the list. Milesq (talk) 16:25, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Norway 2024

the finale date coronation night of Norway in upcoming August 11 2024.👑🇸🇯 112.198.207.44 (talk) 09:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Maldives & Azerbaijan

Maldives is all set to debut in the upcoming 73rd Miss Universe Competition.🇲🇻

Azerbaijan is all set to return in the upcoming 73rd Miss Universe Competition, last competed in 2013.🇦🇿 112.198.207.44 (talk) 09:19, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source LousPlushies (talk) 13:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uruguay

Why did someone remove uruguay from upcoming national pageants? Their pageant is on 31 August. They have already announced their group of contestants as well.. Catia108 (talk) 17:14, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your source is from MissUUpdates on Instagram, a pageant blog. Wikipedia:WikiProject Beauty Pageants/Sources clearly states that social media sites like Instagram are only permitted if it comes from a primary source (and even then it is not usually recommended) and defintely not allowed to cite from pageant blogs like MissUUpdates, even if that information is correct. This is just ensuring the verifiability of the content being factual, encyclopedic, and follows notability guidelines. Milesq (talk) 17:28, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 13 July 2024

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Jmzlja2 would like a permission to edit Miss Universe 2024. 2001:FD8:21B9:C976:FC1A:9DDC:B63E:68BD (talk) 04:26, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone may add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. Ligaturama (talk) 08:26, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An Guadeloupe and Panama Samed Both Date

Hello Guys, Sorry That's my Fault. I Removed Pakistan Namibia and Serbia from a Upcoming Pageants. Can someone fix the table It's my Mistake. LOL... Please Bina.biny99 (talk) 20:30, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Universe Northern Cyprus 2025

Northern Cyprus Was Very soon on 74th Miss Universe 2025 110.93.86.245 (talk) 07:07, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source for Miss Universe Senegal 2024 🇸🇳

@Allyriana000, @Milesq, I would like to write to you that there is debate on the source of Miss Universe Senegal 2024, so I would like to explain my modification. I am not adding a blog but a publication from the official Instagram account of Miss Universe Senegal 2024. This source, even if I recognize that it is not the best, is more relevant than the MSN link which does not even mention Miss Univers Senegal 2024 and is therefore of no use. Until a better secondary source comes out, I think leaving the Instagram link is relevant. T931201 (talk) 18:21, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@T931201 I already added a better source needed tag for that case but for some reason @Catia108 keeps removing it since for them it is not needed despite it being the opposite. I think we can agree for now that it needs the [better source needed] tag until a better third-party reference is added or the MSN article gets updated (as the original version of the article before featured less delegates and more are added over time) since we all know Instagram references for pageant sources are generally discouraged. Milesq (talk) 18:50, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Milesq I'm also not sure why @Catia108 is removing the tag (I personally don't mind it) and it's fine to leave it until a better source is found or MSN is updated. T931201 (talk) 19:06, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@T931201 Hi, just wanting to inform the MSN article has been updated, will now use that as the proper reference for Senegal (and Serbia too). Milesq (talk) 11:00, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good evening @Milesq. Yes I saw that the MSN article had been updated and that you had put it as sources for Serbia and Senegal. Thank you for informing me of this.

T931201 (talk) 19:32, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Universe Russia 2024

Russia Was Waiting For Announcement For Pegeants 112.201.164.159 (talk) 06:58, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Universe Saint Lucia

Why is not showed New Miss Universe Saint Lucia. Please improve this 77.77.218.178 (talk) 10:33, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miss South Sudan 2024

the 1st ever Miss Universe South Sudan 2024 is Amylia Deng and she will get the opportunity to represent her country in the upcoming 73rd Miss Universe Competition to be held in Mexico in November 2024. 112.198.228.111 (talk) 12:06, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So please ask person to put South Sudan on Debuts 77.77.218.178 (talk) 13:02, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Provide a reliable source first, then the editors will add her to the list. Milesq (talk) 13:35, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm Active for this solution Bina.biny99 (talk) 13:48, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Contestants format

I have a question. Can someone explain to me how to put the contestants format perfect? I mean like for example the name "mara topić" it is just one box and not like double... Y'all know what I mean? Can someone tell me how I make that (if it is possible)... Catia108 (talk) 16:30, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I mean the table... sry Catia108 (talk) 16:31, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

and also all the categories in the contestants table... Catia108 (talk) 16:32, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

She is croatian descant. they live in Ecuador together. That's how saying 77.77.219.51 (talk) 10:02, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]